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Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:30 am

Valleys should be nuked or enclosed in a dome. Keep their dirty germs from civilised society

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:20 am

Igovernor wrote:
skidemin wrote:or maybe 10s of millions of weekly visits to super markets dont help.... ?


Maybe not but from what i have seen 99.9% of shoppers are wearing masks and are keeping well away from others :thumbup:


masks give no protection its a fallacy,

you cant even drill a hole in a wall on site without face fitted industrial masks and clean shaven,

its absolute bollox.

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:28 am

You pair are the ones that should be nuked, what a pair of idiots :banghead:

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:48 am

I dont think people are wondering at all.

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:58 am

skidemin wrote:or maybe 10s of millions of weekly visits to super markets dont help.... ?


Spot on.

I find it very hard to believe that the 200,000 new went to a race this week and caught COVID. No way surely especially with the number of over 60s that caught they generally didn’t go to raves that much in the old world.

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:36 pm

Igovernor wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
skidemin wrote:or maybe 10s of millions of weekly visits to super markets dont help.... ?


Maybe not but from what i have seen 99.9% of shoppers are wearing masks and are keeping well away from others :thumbup:



Pray tell me what supermarkets are you shopping at?? I went to tesco on western avenue,and culverhouse cross, and although majority were wearing a mask,social distancing was nowhere to be seen! People leaning over another to reach something,that must of been sooo essential they couldnt wait? Some people taking all their kids,who were running around as if it were a play centre! A lot of people have had this attitude of " im wearing a mask im invincible "and this isnt a new thing,I've witnessed it for months.


Tesco in Poole, does that tell you that us Welsh are worse than
the English in following the rules? and pray tell me why are you going to two tesco's instead of limiting to one surely one of them is big enough to supply what you need, or were were you out window shopping?



Firstly, where did i say i went on the same day?? And for your information,Iwas not "window shopping,so no need for your snidey comment!! I happen to deliver prescription medication to isolate customers, as nd often get asked if I could pick a few items up for some of them,so I go to whatever store is convenient.I can only say what I have witnessed,so couldnt tell you who is obeying the rules better I was asking where you shopped,as if its that good at following regs,I would have tried there!! But seeing as its in poole,question answered.thanks.

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:36 pm

Igovernor wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
skidemin wrote:or maybe 10s of millions of weekly visits to super markets dont help.... ?


Maybe not but from what i have seen 99.9% of shoppers are wearing masks and are keeping well away from others :thumbup:



Pray tell me what supermarkets are you shopping at?? I went to tesco on western avenue,and culverhouse cross, and although majority were wearing a mask,social distancing was nowhere to be seen! People leaning over another to reach something,that must of been sooo essential they couldnt wait? Some people taking all their kids,who were running around as if it were a play centre! A lot of people have had this attitude of " im wearing a mask im invincible "and this isnt a new thing,I've witnessed it for months.


Tesco in Poole, does that tell you that us Welsh are worse than
the English in following the rules? and pray tell me why are you going to two tesco's instead of limiting to one surely one of them is big enough to supply what you need, or were were you out window shopping?



Firstly, where did i say i went on the same day?? And for your information,Iwas not "window shopping,so no need for your snidey comment!! I happen to deliver prescription medication to isolate customers, as nd often get asked if I could pick a few items up for some of them,so I go to whatever store is convenient.I can only say what I have witnessed,so couldnt tell you who is obeying the rules better I was asking where you shopped,as if its that good at following regs,I would have tried there!! But seeing as its in poole,question answered.thanks.

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:07 pm

totally agree with the igovernor on this 1. il avoid tesco western avenue if i can now but even at others 75% don’t care and will invade your personal space.
luckily haven’t caught the chinese virus yet - unless asymptomatic

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:21 pm

Everyone in England must stay at home except for permitted reasons during a new coronavirus lockdown beginning at midnight, Boris Johnson has announced.

All schools and colleges will close to most pupils and switch to remote learning until the middle of February.

The PM urged people to follow the new rules immediately amid surging virus cases and patient numbers.

He said those in the top four priority groups would receive a first vaccine dose by mid-February.

Mr Johnson said that the weeks ahead would be the "hardest yet" but added that he believed the country was entering "the last phase of the struggle".

Scotland earlier issued a stay-at-home order and joined Wales in closing classrooms for most pupils.

Northern Ireland's Stormont Executive are also meeting to discuss possible new measures.

On Monday, the UK recorded more than 50,000 new confirmed Covid cases for the seventh day in a row.

A further 58,784 cases and an additional 407 deaths within 28 days of a positive test result were reported, though deaths in Scotland were not recorded.

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:28 pm

Hardly warrants a lockdown or anything else. More people are dying of suicide and that’s a fact and another Blurbird gone a couple of days ago :cry:
These are the official deaths in the areas mentioned SOLELY of Covid. Can’t wait to be called a spreader of fake news again even though the information is from a government site.
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Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:16 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Hardly warrants a lockdown or anything else. More people are dying of suicide and that’s a fact and another Blurbird gone a couple of days ago :cry:
These are the official deaths in the areas mentioned SOLELY of Covid. Can’t wait to be called a spreader of fake news again even though the information is from a government site.
FBA3C961-1399-4FE7-B42B-2655160876E4.jpeg
71C389EC-79DF-4DC7-9739-8947A515395E.jpeg

Why don't you go and also ask how many people have died solely of cancer, or dementia, or heart failure, or anything?

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:02 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Hardly warrants a lockdown or anything else. More people are dying of suicide and that’s a fact and another Blurbird gone a couple of days ago :cry:
These are the official deaths in the areas mentioned SOLELY of Covid. Can’t wait to be called a spreader of fake news again even though the information is from a government site.
FBA3C961-1399-4FE7-B42B-2655160876E4.jpeg
71C389EC-79DF-4DC7-9739-8947A515395E.jpeg

Why don't you go and also ask how many people have died solely of cancer, or dementia, or heart failure, or anything?


Because dear Josh that would have no relevance to this post. But it would be interesting to see how many deaths of cancer heart disease and even suicides there are and compare them to covid.
You seem angry I posted this information. Are you disappointed the total is so low ? Do you wish it was more so you can say yes they were right to lock us down ?
Unemployment I would guess right now at an all time high
Local businesses closes at the fastest rate ever
Mental health issues going through the roof
Suicides at a all time high. (There has been about 15 City lads gone this way in the past year)
Major illness detection rates at an all time low.
But you think it’s ok because of some mild virus that kills directly next to no one.

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:19 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Hardly warrants a lockdown or anything else. More people are dying of suicide and that’s a fact and another Blurbird gone a couple of days ago :cry:
These are the official deaths in the areas mentioned SOLELY of Covid. Can’t wait to be called a spreader of fake news again even though the information is from a government site.
FBA3C961-1399-4FE7-B42B-2655160876E4.jpeg
71C389EC-79DF-4DC7-9739-8947A515395E.jpeg

Why don't you go and also ask how many people have died solely of cancer, or dementia, or heart failure, or anything?



WHOOSH.....straight over your head again....

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:25 pm

skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Hardly warrants a lockdown or anything else. More people are dying of suicide and that’s a fact and another Blurbird gone a couple of days ago :cry:
These are the official deaths in the areas mentioned SOLELY of Covid. Can’t wait to be called a spreader of fake news again even though the information is from a government site.
FBA3C961-1399-4FE7-B42B-2655160876E4.jpeg
71C389EC-79DF-4DC7-9739-8947A515395E.jpeg

Why don't you go and also ask how many people have died solely of cancer, or dementia, or heart failure, or anything?



WHOOSH.....straight over your head again....

Don’t think it went straight over his head more the fact he could not answer in a way to discredit what I put up. There is an easy way if the truth hurts put me on ignore. Most people are stuck in there houses with there eyes shut and hands over there ears until the 6 o’clock news comes on and then they can get there daily dose of fear.

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:35 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Hardly warrants a lockdown or anything else. More people are dying of suicide and that’s a fact and another Blurbird gone a couple of days ago :cry:
These are the official deaths in the areas mentioned SOLELY of Covid. Can’t wait to be called a spreader of fake news again even though the information is from a government site.
FBA3C961-1399-4FE7-B42B-2655160876E4.jpeg
71C389EC-79DF-4DC7-9739-8947A515395E.jpeg




hardly the picture thats been painted for 9 months...

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:41 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
skidemin wrote:or maybe 10s of millions of weekly visits to super markets dont help.... ?


Maybe not but from what i have seen 99.9% of shoppers are wearing masks and are keeping well away from others :thumbup:



Pray tell me what supermarkets are you shopping at?? I went to tesco on western avenue,and culverhouse cross, and although majority were wearing a mask,social distancing was nowhere to be seen! People leaning over another to reach something,that must of been sooo essential they couldnt wait? Some people taking all their kids,who were running around as if it were a play centre! A lot of people have had this attitude of " im wearing a mask im invincible "and this isnt a new thing,I've witnessed it for months.


Tesco in Poole, does that tell you that us Welsh are worse than
the English in following the rules? and pray tell me why are you going to two tesco's instead of limiting to one surely one of them is big enough to supply what you need, or were were you out window shopping?



Firstly, where did i say i went on the same day?? And for your information,Iwas not "window shopping,so no need for your snidey comment!! I happen to deliver prescription medication to isolate customers, as nd often get asked if I could pick a few items up for some of them,so I go to whatever store is convenient.I can only say what I have witnessed,so couldnt tell you who is obeying the rules better I was asking where you shopped,as if its that good at following regs,I would have tried there!! But seeing as its in poole,question answered.thanks.


I must apologize if you felt that my last mark was snidey, it was not meant to be, it was flippant of me, I must think before I write :thumbup:

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:42 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Hardly warrants a lockdown or anything else. More people are dying of suicide and that’s a fact and another Blurbird gone a couple of days ago :cry:
These are the official deaths in the areas mentioned SOLELY of Covid. Can’t wait to be called a spreader of fake news again even though the information is from a government site.
FBA3C961-1399-4FE7-B42B-2655160876E4.jpeg
71C389EC-79DF-4DC7-9739-8947A515395E.jpeg

Why don't you go and also ask how many people have died solely of cancer, or dementia, or heart failure, or anything?



WHOOSH.....straight over your head again....

Don’t think it went straight over his head more the fact he could not answer in a way to discredit what I put up. There is an easy way if the truth hurts put me on ignore. Most people are stuck in there houses with there eyes shut and hands over there ears until the 6 o’clock news comes on and then they can get there daily dose of fear.



sorry but i disagree...he was going on about how the Cornish would feel if there were statues of barbary pirates in their towns / villages yesterday.. i wish Annis would get one of those i am not a robot things when signing in tbh...

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:55 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Hardly warrants a lockdown or anything else. More people are dying of suicide and that’s a fact and another Blurbird gone a couple of days ago :cry:
These are the official deaths in the areas mentioned SOLELY of Covid. Can’t wait to be called a spreader of fake news again even though the information is from a government site.
FBA3C961-1399-4FE7-B42B-2655160876E4.jpeg
71C389EC-79DF-4DC7-9739-8947A515395E.jpeg

Why don't you go and also ask how many people have died solely of cancer, or dementia, or heart failure, or anything?


Because dear Josh that would have no relevance to this post. But it would be interesting to see how many deaths of cancer heart disease and even suicides there are and compare them to covid.
You seem angry I posted this information. Are you disappointed the total is so low ? Do you wish it was more so you can say yes they were right to lock us down ?
Unemployment I would guess right now at an all time high
Local businesses closes at the fastest rate ever
Mental health issues going through the roof
Suicides at a all time high. (There has been about 15 City lads gone this way in the past year)
Major illness detection rates at an all time low.
But you think it’s ok because of some mild virus that kills directly next to no one.

Well it is relevant. Heart disease deaths have an average of 4 comorbidities. You are using deaths with no comorbidities to make the number small yet you won't do the same to other causes of deaths which would give context.

The NHS says 43% of adults have at least one long term health condition. That's already a tick on the comorbidity for all of them.

Saying it is "some mild virus that kills directly next to no one." is absolute horseshit. I have friends who are diabetic and one who is asthmatic. They are all perfectly healthy but if they were to get corona and die then asthma/ diabetes would be on the death certificate as a comorbidity (which in your mind would not list it as a 'direct' covid death)

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:09 pm

Here you go nuclear
https://www.dementiastatistics.org/stat ... rbidities/
I'll let you post the new topic saying how dementia is 'mild and kills directly next to no one. '

Here's one about autopsies and dementia so you can see about how people can have multiple things which cause them to die (don't worry there's no pictures)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14692815/

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:37 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:Here you go nuclear
https://www.dementiastatistics.org/stat ... rbidities/
I'll let you post the new topic saying how dementia is 'mild and kills directly next to no one. '

Here's one about autopsies and dementia so you can see about how people can have multiple things which cause them to die (don't worry there's no pictures)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14692815/


Why the hell you mentioning dementia for ? Kills next to no one ? It’s a massive killer. Right it you want to mention comorbidities if you use influenza in the same way it kills many more than covid measured the same way. But we don’t go on lockdown.
Even if you take the numbers in the way they have done it’s still f**k all and definitely not a pandemic. Christ alive 60 odd thousand since March isn’t many.
More people are dying because of covid not of covid. Also we found someone who died of an RTA and was counted as covid.
Peoples lives are being destroyed through job losses businesses closing people losing there homes families having to live with loved ones taking there own lives.
But death rates in total has been constant over the last ten years. Lockdowns don’t work against a virus in fact it thrives with people locked up inside. Masks don’t protect from viruses at all. They are used in hospitals to protect from bacteria.
Social distancing doesn’t work and in fact everything the governments measures they have put in place actually vastly lowers your immune system.
You can’t beat a virus like Coronavirus it’s bean around for decades. If they could don’t you think they would of beaten influenza in the same way ? It’s all pathetic
The virus is very real but they are using this virus for a massive agenda. If you think we are going to get our freedoms back josh you are in for a massive shock.
Divide and conquer they are turning everyone against each other so they can do as they please. Pity you can’t see that.m

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:53 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:Here you go nuclear
https://www.dementiastatistics.org/stat ... rbidities/
I'll let you post the new topic saying how dementia is 'mild and kills directly next to no one. '

Here's one about autopsies and dementia so you can see about how people can have multiple things which cause them to die (don't worry there's no pictures)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14692815/



yep if you have underlying illnesses a good dose of the flu will finish you off too..... big scheme of things this is not killing many and most of those it has killed were old and weak and often with a short expected life...
nobody , absolutely nobody would have predicted these numbers would cause the reaction we are seeing even a year ago....but anyway..if all these restrictions and lockdowns work why not before ? and more importantly assuming the vaccines work as on the tin and we do actually get back to normal what happens in 6/9 months if a different virus comes along as bad oir worse than this.... do you lock down forever ? even taking this extremely dubious top end figure { covid related, or tested positive within 28 days now seem to be what they are called } its insane...

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:32 pm

skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:Here you go nuclear
https://www.dementiastatistics.org/stat ... rbidities/
I'll let you post the new topic saying how dementia is 'mild and kills directly next to no one. '

Here's one about autopsies and dementia so you can see about how people can have multiple things which cause them to die (don't worry there's no pictures)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14692815/



yep if you have underlying illnesses a good dose of the flu will finish you off too..... big scheme of things this is not killing many and most of those it has killed were old and weak and often with a short expected life...
nobody , absolutely nobody would have predicted these numbers would cause the reaction we are seeing even a year ago....but anyway..if all these restrictions and lockdowns work why not before ? and more importantly assuming the vaccines work as on the tin and we do actually get back to normal what happens in 6/9 months if a different virus comes along as bad oir worse than this.... do you lock down forever ? even taking this extremely dubious top end figure { covid related, or tested positive within 28 days now seem to be what they are called } its insane...

Exactly and you can’t defeat a virus. Everyone relying on politicians on outsmarting a virus ? Hmmm That does make me laugh

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:12 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:Here you go nuclear
https://www.dementiastatistics.org/stat ... rbidities/
I'll let you post the new topic saying how dementia is 'mild and kills directly next to no one. '

Here's one about autopsies and dementia so you can see about how people can have multiple things which cause them to die (don't worry there's no pictures)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14692815/


Why the hell you mentioning dementia for ? Kills next to no one ? It’s a massive killer. Right it you want to mention comorbidities if you use influenza in the same way it kills many more than covid measured the same way. But we don’t go on lockdown.
Even if you take the numbers in the way they have done it’s still f**k all and definitely not a pandemic. Christ alive 60 odd thousand since March isn’t many.
More people are dying because of covid not of covid. Also we found someone who died of an RTA and was counted as covid.
Peoples lives are being destroyed through job losses businesses closing people losing there homes families having to live with loved ones taking there own lives.
But death rates in total has been constant over the last ten years. Lockdowns don’t work against a virus in fact it thrives with people locked up inside. Masks don’t protect from viruses at all. They are used in hospitals to protect from bacteria.
Social distancing doesn’t work and in fact everything the governments measures they have put in place actually vastly lowers your immune system.
You can’t beat a virus like Coronavirus it’s bean around for decades. If they could don’t you think they would of beaten influenza in the same way ? It’s all pathetic
The virus is very real but they are using this virus for a massive agenda. If you think we are going to get our freedoms back josh you are in for a massive shock.
Divide and conquer they are turning everyone against each other so they can do as they please. Pity you can’t see that.m

"Why the hell you mentioning dementia for ?" To show that all the big killers have co-morbidities.

"Kills next to no one ? It’s a massive killer." Well done on changing your mind that just because something has co-morbidities it doesn't mean that it's not deadly! Feel free to publicly retract your " mild virus that kills directly next to no one." statement. I assume you also know how many die of dementia and how many with dementia as well.

"still f**k all and definitely not a pandemic. Christ alive 60 odd thousand since March isn’t many." 70,000+ Deaths isn't much? That is around 2 months worth of deaths in just 9 months. Factor in lockdown and restrictions for them months and that's a mammoth amount.

"More people are dying because of covid not of covid." *Re insert the Dementia of and with bit here*

"Also we found someone who died of an RTA and was counted as covid." 70,000 people is f**k all but one person is a game changer :oops: A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.

"Peoples lives are being destroyed through job losses" Do you suggest we just open everything up and let more die then? Your choice.

"But death rates in total has been constant over the last ten years. Lockdowns don’t work against a virus in fact it thrives with people locked up inside. Masks don’t protect from viruses at all. They are used in hospitals to protect from bacteria.
Social distancing doesn’t work and in fact everything the governments measures they have put in place actually vastly lowers your immune system. " Scientific studies and sources for them please.

"don’t you think they would of beaten influenza in the same way ? " Do you know how many types of influenza there are? And there are vaccines against influenza/ flu.

"If you think we are going to get our freedoms back josh you are in for a massive shock. " When lockdown was lifted what freedoms had we lost?

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:48 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:Here you go nuclear
https://www.dementiastatistics.org/stat ... rbidities/
I'll let you post the new topic saying how dementia is 'mild and kills directly next to no one. '

Here's one about autopsies and dementia so you can see about how people can have multiple things which cause them to die (don't worry there's no pictures)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14692815/


Why the hell you mentioning dementia for ? Kills next to no one ? It’s a massive killer. Right it you want to mention comorbidities if you use influenza in the same way it kills many more than covid measured the same way. But we don’t go on lockdown.
Even if you take the numbers in the way they have done it’s still f**k all and definitely not a pandemic. Christ alive 60 odd thousand since March isn’t many.
More people are dying because of covid not of covid. Also we found someone who died of an RTA and was counted as covid.
Peoples lives are being destroyed through job losses businesses closing people losing there homes families having to live with loved ones taking there own lives.
But death rates in total has been constant over the last ten years. Lockdowns don’t work against a virus in fact it thrives with people locked up inside. Masks don’t protect from viruses at all. They are used in hospitals to protect from bacteria.
Social distancing doesn’t work and in fact everything the governments measures they have put in place actually vastly lowers your immune system.
You can’t beat a virus like Coronavirus it’s bean around for decades. If they could don’t you think they would of beaten influenza in the same way ? It’s all pathetic
The virus is very real but they are using this virus for a massive agenda. If you think we are going to get our freedoms back josh you are in for a massive shock.
Divide and conquer they are turning everyone against each other so they can do as they please. Pity you can’t see that.m

"Why the hell you mentioning dementia for ?" To show that all the big killers have co-morbidities.

"Kills next to no one ? It’s a massive killer." Well done on changing your mind that just because something has co-morbidities it doesn't mean that it's not deadly! Feel free to publicly retract your " mild virus that kills directly next to no one." statement. I assume you also know how many die of dementia and how many with dementia as well.

"still f**k all and definitely not a pandemic. Christ alive 60 odd thousand since March isn’t many." 70,000+ Deaths isn't much? That is around 2 months worth of deaths in just 9 months. Factor in lockdown and restrictions for them months and that's a mammoth amount.

"More people are dying because of covid not of covid." *Re insert the Dementia of and with bit here*

"Also we found someone who died of an RTA and was counted as covid." 70,000 people is f**k all but one person is a game changer :oops: A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.

"Peoples lives are being destroyed through job losses" Do you suggest we just open everything up and let more die then? Your choice.

"But death rates in total has been constant over the last ten years. Lockdowns don’t work against a virus in fact it thrives with people locked up inside. Masks don’t protect from viruses at all. They are used in hospitals to protect from bacteria.
Social distancing doesn’t work and in fact everything the governments measures they have put in place actually vastly lowers your immune system. " Scientific studies and sources for them please.

"don’t you think they would of beaten influenza in the same way ? " Do you know how many types of influenza there are? And there are vaccines against influenza/ flu.

"If you think we are going to get our freedoms back josh you are in for a massive shock. " When lockdown was lifted what freedoms had we lost?


When lockdown was lifted what freedoms had we lost?

Well I can't remember being able to go down the City when lockdown was lifted or go to a concert or festival?

Did I miss out on being able to do those things?

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:54 pm

davids wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:Here you go nuclear
https://www.dementiastatistics.org/stat ... rbidities/
I'll let you post the new topic saying how dementia is 'mild and kills directly next to no one. '

Here's one about autopsies and dementia so you can see about how people can have multiple things which cause them to die (don't worry there's no pictures)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14692815/


Why the hell you mentioning dementia for ? Kills next to no one ? It’s a massive killer. Right it you want to mention comorbidities if you use influenza in the same way it kills many more than covid measured the same way. But we don’t go on lockdown.
Even if you take the numbers in the way they have done it’s still f**k all and definitely not a pandemic. Christ alive 60 odd thousand since March isn’t many.
More people are dying because of covid not of covid. Also we found someone who died of an RTA and was counted as covid.
Peoples lives are being destroyed through job losses businesses closing people losing there homes families having to live with loved ones taking there own lives.
But death rates in total has been constant over the last ten years. Lockdowns don’t work against a virus in fact it thrives with people locked up inside. Masks don’t protect from viruses at all. They are used in hospitals to protect from bacteria.
Social distancing doesn’t work and in fact everything the governments measures they have put in place actually vastly lowers your immune system.
You can’t beat a virus like Coronavirus it’s bean around for decades. If they could don’t you think they would of beaten influenza in the same way ? It’s all pathetic
The virus is very real but they are using this virus for a massive agenda. If you think we are going to get our freedoms back josh you are in for a massive shock.
Divide and conquer they are turning everyone against each other so they can do as they please. Pity you can’t see that.m

"Why the hell you mentioning dementia for ?" To show that all the big killers have co-morbidities.

"Kills next to no one ? It’s a massive killer." Well done on changing your mind that just because something has co-morbidities it doesn't mean that it's not deadly! Feel free to publicly retract your " mild virus that kills directly next to no one." statement. I assume you also know how many die of dementia and how many with dementia as well.

"still f**k all and definitely not a pandemic. Christ alive 60 odd thousand since March isn’t many." 70,000+ Deaths isn't much? That is around 2 months worth of deaths in just 9 months. Factor in lockdown and restrictions for them months and that's a mammoth amount.

"More people are dying because of covid not of covid." *Re insert the Dementia of and with bit here*

"Also we found someone who died of an RTA and was counted as covid." 70,000 people is f**k all but one person is a game changer :oops: A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.

"Peoples lives are being destroyed through job losses" Do you suggest we just open everything up and let more die then? Your choice.

"But death rates in total has been constant over the last ten years. Lockdowns don’t work against a virus in fact it thrives with people locked up inside. Masks don’t protect from viruses at all. They are used in hospitals to protect from bacteria.
Social distancing doesn’t work and in fact everything the governments measures they have put in place actually vastly lowers your immune system. " Scientific studies and sources for them please.

"don’t you think they would of beaten influenza in the same way ? " Do you know how many types of influenza there are? And there are vaccines against influenza/ flu.

"If you think we are going to get our freedoms back josh you are in for a massive shock. " When lockdown was lifted what freedoms had we lost?


When lockdown was lifted what freedoms had we lost?

Well I can't remember being able to go down the City when lockdown was lifted or go to a concert or festival?

Did I miss out on being able to do those things?

I was more talking about human right level freedoms tbh

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:30 pm

davids wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:Here you go nuclear
https://www.dementiastatistics.org/stat ... rbidities/
I'll let you post the new topic saying how dementia is 'mild and kills directly next to no one. '

Here's one about autopsies and dementia so you can see about how people can have multiple things which cause them to die (don't worry there's no pictures)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14692815/


Why the hell you mentioning dementia for ? Kills next to no one ? It’s a massive killer. Right it you want to mention comorbidities if you use influenza in the same way it kills many more than covid measured the same way. But we don’t go on lockdown.
Even if you take the numbers in the way they have done it’s still f**k all and definitely not a pandemic. Christ alive 60 odd thousand since March isn’t many.
More people are dying because of covid not of covid. Also we found someone who died of an RTA and was counted as covid.
Peoples lives are being destroyed through job losses businesses closing people losing there homes families having to live with loved ones taking there own lives.
But death rates in total has been constant over the last ten years. Lockdowns don’t work against a virus in fact it thrives with people locked up inside. Masks don’t protect from viruses at all. They are used in hospitals to protect from bacteria.
Social distancing doesn’t work and in fact everything the governments measures they have put in place actually vastly lowers your immune system.
You can’t beat a virus like Coronavirus it’s bean around for decades. If they could don’t you think they would of beaten influenza in the same way ? It’s all pathetic
The virus is very real but they are using this virus for a massive agenda. If you think we are going to get our freedoms back josh you are in for a massive shock.
Divide and conquer they are turning everyone against each other so they can do as they please. Pity you can’t see that.m

"Why the hell you mentioning dementia for ?" To show that all the big killers have co-morbidities.

"Kills next to no one ? It’s a massive killer." Well done on changing your mind that just because something has co-morbidities it doesn't mean that it's not deadly! Feel free to publicly retract your " mild virus that kills directly next to no one." statement. I assume you also know how many die of dementia and how many with dementia as well.

"still f**k all and definitely not a pandemic. Christ alive 60 odd thousand since March isn’t many." 70,000+ Deaths isn't much? That is around 2 months worth of deaths in just 9 months. Factor in lockdown and restrictions for them months and that's a mammoth amount.

"More people are dying because of covid not of covid." *Re insert the Dementia of and with bit here*

"Also we found someone who died of an RTA and was counted as covid." 70,000 people is f**k all but one person is a game changer :oops: A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.

"Peoples lives are being destroyed through job losses" Do you suggest we just open everything up and let more die then? Your choice.

"But death rates in total has been constant over the last ten years. Lockdowns don’t work against a virus in fact it thrives with people locked up inside. Masks don’t protect from viruses at all. They are used in hospitals to protect from bacteria.
Social distancing doesn’t work and in fact everything the governments measures they have put in place actually vastly lowers your immune system. " Scientific studies and sources for them please.

"don’t you think they would of beaten influenza in the same way ? " Do you know how many types of influenza there are? And there are vaccines against influenza/ flu.

"If you think we are going to get our freedoms back josh you are in for a massive shock. " When lockdown was lifted what freedoms had we lost?


When lockdown was lifted what freedoms had we lost?

Well I can't remember being able to go down the City when lockdown was lifted or go to a concert or festival?

Did I miss out on being able to do those things?


Lockdown has never been removed it was just different levels inserted after.
As you said the football, going on holidays that I had previously booked, going to the pub with my mates, going to a restaurant with mates or no restrictions, Gyms closed, being able to go into shops without wearing a face nappy, being able to try on clothes in the shops, travelling to another part of the uk with the tiers (another form of lockdowns) was out of the question.
If you think we had our freedoms back josh obviously you didn’t come out of your bedroom much before this shit started.

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:32 pm

[quote="Pidgeofcdf"]totally agree with the igovernor on this 1. il avoid tesco western avenue if i can now but even at others 75% don’t care and will invade your personal space.
luckily haven’t caught the chinese virus yet - unless asymptomatic[/quote

but according to igovenor,where he shops in poole,99% are wearing a mask,and staying well away from each other,it was myself who asked him where he shopped,due to the one's ive been to,are not following guidelines at all!!

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:43 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
davids wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:Here you go nuclear
https://www.dementiastatistics.org/stat ... rbidities/
I'll let you post the new topic saying how dementia is 'mild and kills directly next to no one. '

Here's one about autopsies and dementia so you can see about how people can have multiple things which cause them to die (don't worry there's no pictures)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14692815/


Why the hell you mentioning dementia for ? Kills next to no one ? It’s a massive killer. Right it you want to mention comorbidities if you use influenza in the same way it kills many more than covid measured the same way. But we don’t go on lockdown.
Even if you take the numbers in the way they have done it’s still f**k all and definitely not a pandemic. Christ alive 60 odd thousand since March isn’t many.
More people are dying because of covid not of covid. Also we found someone who died of an RTA and was counted as covid.
Peoples lives are being destroyed through job losses businesses closing people losing there homes families having to live with loved ones taking there own lives.
But death rates in total has been constant over the last ten years. Lockdowns don’t work against a virus in fact it thrives with people locked up inside. Masks don’t protect from viruses at all. They are used in hospitals to protect from bacteria.
Social distancing doesn’t work and in fact everything the governments measures they have put in place actually vastly lowers your immune system.
You can’t beat a virus like Coronavirus it’s bean around for decades. If they could don’t you think they would of beaten influenza in the same way ? It’s all pathetic
The virus is very real but they are using this virus for a massive agenda. If you think we are going to get our freedoms back josh you are in for a massive shock.
Divide and conquer they are turning everyone against each other so they can do as they please. Pity you can’t see that.m

"Why the hell you mentioning dementia for ?" To show that all the big killers have co-morbidities.

"Kills next to no one ? It’s a massive killer." Well done on changing your mind that just because something has co-morbidities it doesn't mean that it's not deadly! Feel free to publicly retract your " mild virus that kills directly next to no one." statement. I assume you also know how many die of dementia and how many with dementia as well.

"still f**k all and definitely not a pandemic. Christ alive 60 odd thousand since March isn’t many." 70,000+ Deaths isn't much? That is around 2 months worth of deaths in just 9 months. Factor in lockdown and restrictions for them months and that's a mammoth amount.

"More people are dying because of covid not of covid." *Re insert the Dementia of and with bit here*

"Also we found someone who died of an RTA and was counted as covid." 70,000 people is f**k all but one person is a game changer :oops: A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.

"Peoples lives are being destroyed through job losses" Do you suggest we just open everything up and let more die then? Your choice.

"But death rates in total has been constant over the last ten years. Lockdowns don’t work against a virus in fact it thrives with people locked up inside. Masks don’t protect from viruses at all. They are used in hospitals to protect from bacteria.
Social distancing doesn’t work and in fact everything the governments measures they have put in place actually vastly lowers your immune system. " Scientific studies and sources for them please.

"don’t you think they would of beaten influenza in the same way ? " Do you know how many types of influenza there are? And there are vaccines against influenza/ flu.

"If you think we are going to get our freedoms back josh you are in for a massive shock. " When lockdown was lifted what freedoms had we lost?


When lockdown was lifted what freedoms had we lost?

Well I can't remember being able to go down the City when lockdown was lifted or go to a concert or festival?

Did I miss out on being able to do those things?


Lockdown has never been removed it was just different levels inserted after.
As you said the football, going on holidays that I had previously booked, going to the pub with my mates, going to a restaurant with mates or no restrictions, Gyms closed, being able to go into shops without wearing a face nappy, being able to try on clothes in the shops, travelling to another part of the uk with the tiers (another form of lockdowns) was out of the question.
If you think we had our freedoms back josh obviously you didn’t come out of your bedroom much before this shit started.

Those 5 freedoms that Roosevelt famously talked about:
Freedom of speech
Freedom of expression
Freedom from want
Freedom from fear
Freedom to try clothes on in a shop.

How the children of the future will vilify us for giving away that precious 5th freedom. Dark days indeed.

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:33 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:
davids wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:Here you go nuclear
https://www.dementiastatistics.org/stat ... rbidities/
I'll let you post the new topic saying how dementia is 'mild and kills directly next to no one. '

Here's one about autopsies and dementia so you can see about how people can have multiple things which cause them to die (don't worry there's no pictures)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14692815/


Why the hell you mentioning dementia for ? Kills next to no one ? It’s a massive killer. Right it you want to mention comorbidities if you use influenza in the same way it kills many more than covid measured the same way. But we don’t go on lockdown.
Even if you take the numbers in the way they have done it’s still f**k all and definitely not a pandemic. Christ alive 60 odd thousand since March isn’t many.
More people are dying because of covid not of covid. Also we found someone who died of an RTA and was counted as covid.
Peoples lives are being destroyed through job losses businesses closing people losing there homes families having to live with loved ones taking there own lives.
But death rates in total has been constant over the last ten years. Lockdowns don’t work against a virus in fact it thrives with people locked up inside. Masks don’t protect from viruses at all. They are used in hospitals to protect from bacteria.
Social distancing doesn’t work and in fact everything the governments measures they have put in place actually vastly lowers your immune system.
You can’t beat a virus like Coronavirus it’s bean around for decades. If they could don’t you think they would of beaten influenza in the same way ? It’s all pathetic
The virus is very real but they are using this virus for a massive agenda. If you think we are going to get our freedoms back josh you are in for a massive shock.
Divide and conquer they are turning everyone against each other so they can do as they please. Pity you can’t see that.m

"Why the hell you mentioning dementia for ?" To show that all the big killers have co-morbidities.

"Kills next to no one ? It’s a massive killer." Well done on changing your mind that just because something has co-morbidities it doesn't mean that it's not deadly! Feel free to publicly retract your " mild virus that kills directly next to no one." statement. I assume you also know how many die of dementia and how many with dementia as well.

"still f**k all and definitely not a pandemic. Christ alive 60 odd thousand since March isn’t many." 70,000+ Deaths isn't much? That is around 2 months worth of deaths in just 9 months. Factor in lockdown and restrictions for them months and that's a mammoth amount.

"More people are dying because of covid not of covid." *Re insert the Dementia of and with bit here*

"Also we found someone who died of an RTA and was counted as covid." 70,000 people is f**k all but one person is a game changer :oops: A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.

"Peoples lives are being destroyed through job losses" Do you suggest we just open everything up and let more die then? Your choice.

"But death rates in total has been constant over the last ten years. Lockdowns don’t work against a virus in fact it thrives with people locked up inside. Masks don’t protect from viruses at all. They are used in hospitals to protect from bacteria.
Social distancing doesn’t work and in fact everything the governments measures they have put in place actually vastly lowers your immune system. " Scientific studies and sources for them please.

"don’t you think they would of beaten influenza in the same way ? " Do you know how many types of influenza there are? And there are vaccines against influenza/ flu.

"If you think we are going to get our freedoms back josh you are in for a massive shock. " When lockdown was lifted what freedoms had we lost?


When lockdown was lifted what freedoms had we lost?

Well I can't remember being able to go down the City when lockdown was lifted or go to a concert or festival?

Did I miss out on being able to do those things?


Lockdown has never been removed it was just different levels inserted after.
As you said the football, going on holidays that I had previously booked, going to the pub with my mates, going to a restaurant with mates or no restrictions, Gyms closed, being able to go into shops without wearing a face nappy, being able to try on clothes in the shops, travelling to another part of the uk with the tiers (another form of lockdowns) was out of the question.
If you think we had our freedoms back josh obviously you didn’t come out of your bedroom much before this shit started.

Those 5 freedoms that Roosevelt famously talked about:
Freedom of speech
Freedom of expression
Freedom from want
Freedom from fear
Freedom to try clothes on in a shop.

How the children of the future will vilify us for giving away that precious 5th freedom. Dark days indeed.



and i would have thought you would be screaming the loudest about freedom....which just goes to show you do not really believe half the shit you copy and paste ,your stance on liberty and freedom is determined by whatever left wing group you happen to be defending at the time say you should think ..not freedom itself...

Re: And people wonder why covid19 infections are rising

Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:29 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Hardly warrants a lockdown or anything else. More people are dying of suicide and that’s a fact and another Blurbird gone a couple of days ago :cry:
These are the official deaths in the areas mentioned SOLELY of Covid. Can’t wait to be called a spreader of fake news again even though the information is from a government site.
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Judging by your question you have no idea how death certificates are written. The conclusions you are trying to draw are wrong, and your post is meaningless.
Sorry mate I am fed up with this garbage!