Cardiff City Forum



A forum for all things Cardiff City

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:39 pm

Sat Dec 12 CARDIFF CITY 0 SWANSEA CITY 2 :cry: :cry:


Wed Dec 16 CARDIFF CITY 3 BIRMINGHAM CITY 2 :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:


12:30pm Sat Dec 19 Norwich City 2 Cardiff City 0 :cry: :cry:


Sat Dec 26 CARDIFF CITY 2 BRENTFORD 3 :cry: :cry:


Tue Dec 29 Wycombe Wanderers A


Sat Jan 02 Rotherham United A CANCELLED COVID

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:40 pm

We are where we are, no point going over old ground.

The squad lacks quality, lots of triers and some serious decisions about taking a loss on players like Glatzel and Murphy need to be made. A lot others need to be let go but that will also cost us

Then the biggest question who will manage the club and then the first team. With Choo and Dalman AWOL we need a DOF or general manager. Someone with a business head or has learnt that side of life. I believe Stephan McPhail does a similar job at a small club in Ireland. I think this is a must before anything.

Professional football is about recruitment above all else. You can change head coaches but you need a conveyor belt of players and highlight potential next coaches.

Buy cheap sell higher,recycle the money. Sadly we have done the opposite. If the head coach is shit replace him.


We are far too old fashioned in how we administer the club. It needs to change. No point in changing mangermid season

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:43 pm

Tam offers us security but as far as Football is concerned he’s clueless with a bunch of yes men answering to him.

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:46 pm

Away defeat to bottom club Wycombe up next looks absolutely nailed on. Properly finish off yet another miserable City Christmas and maybe Harris 'the excuse' too. Bah humbug!

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:48 pm

:bluebird:
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:49 pm

Reply:
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:55 pm

For me Harris pre-match speech prepared himself for a defeat saying we can’t compete with clubs like Brentford / Pathetic

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:55 pm

llan bluebird wrote:We are where we are, no point going over old ground.

The squad lacks quality, lots of triers and some serious decisions about taking a loss on players like Glatzel and Murphy need to be made. A lot others need to be let go but that will also cost us

Then the biggest question who will manage the club and then the first team. With Choo and Dalman AWOL we need a DOF or general manager. Someone with a business head or has learnt that side of life. I believe Stephan McPhail does a similar job at a small club in Ireland. I think this is a must before anything.

Professional football is about recruitment above all else. You can change head coaches but you need a conveyor belt of players and highlight potential next coaches.

Buy cheap sell higher,recycle the money. Sadly we have done the opposite. If the head coach is shit replace him.


We are far too old fashioned in how we administer the club. It needs to change. No point in changing mangermid season



Unquestionably old fashioned in way team plays its football but unfortunately it's got us promoted twice !perhaps we need to be relegated or struggling for several
years before Dalman sees need a change of direction football wise... and type manager club wants

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:57 pm

Forever Blue wrote:For me Harris pre-match speech prepared himself for a defeat saying we can’t compete with clubs like Brentford / Pathetic



Spot on. What "leader" says such demotivating stuff?

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:06 pm

Harris needs to go but the blame has to go at the people who are running this club , Tan Dalman and Choo is he is still there we have very rich greedy men who know nothing about football. The reason they got rid of Malky was he was popular but was doing ok so I stand by what I said We got relegated by Tan & Dalman that season .

Warnock knows about football and he got us as a club again on his own then things gone wrong so Tan could get rid so he get a yes man in and we are in a mess again thank god we have no supporters in the ground imagine the reaction today.

Tan is the owner first he needs to get a manager and let him manage otherwise sell the club as he knows bugger all about football and makes our club look amusing to other people

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:07 pm

valleyrambill wrote:Harris needs to go but the blame has to go at the people who are running this club , Tan Dalman and Choo is he is still there we have very rich greedy men who know nothing about football. The reason they got rid of Malky was he was popular but was doing ok so I stand by what I said We got relegated by Tan & Dalman that season .

Warnock knows about football and he got us as a club again on his own then things gone wrong so Tan could get rid so he get a yes man in and we are in a mess again thank god we have no supporters in the ground imagine the reaction today.

Tan is the owner first he needs to get a manager and let him manage otherwise sell the club as he knows bugger all about football and makes our club look amusing to other people



SPOT ON :thumbright: :thumbright:

But watch out for the Red /Tan lovers

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:07 pm

Big Hill Blue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:For me Harris pre-match speech prepared himself for a defeat saying we can’t compete with clubs like Brentford / Pathetic



Spot on. What "leader" says such demotivating stuff?


Exactly

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:07 pm

llan bluebird wrote:We are where we are, no point going over old ground.

The squad lacks quality, lots of triers and some serious decisions about taking a loss on players like Glatzel and Murphy need to be made. A lot others need to be let go but that will also cost us

Then the biggest question who will manage the club and then the first team. With Choo and Dalman AWOL we need a DOF or general manager. Someone with a business head or has learnt that side of life. I believe Stephan McPhail does a similar job at a small club in Ireland. I think this is a must before anything.

Professional football is about recruitment above all else. You can change head coaches but you need a conveyor belt of players and highlight potential next coaches.

Buy cheap sell higher,recycle the money. Sadly we have done the opposite. If the head coach is shit replace him.


We are far too old fashioned in how we administer the club. It needs to change. No point in changing mangermid season


Why is Choo awol?
I can’t speak for Dalman but Ken Choo attends every game home and away.

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:08 pm

Forever Blue wrote:For me Harris pre-match speech prepared himself for a defeat saying we can’t compete with clubs like Brentford / Pathetic



1st half performance was not consistent with what your saying ... but 2nd half shows how tactically naive he is... they tweaked formation slightly but he didnt counter it result bacuna exposed not for 1st time Harris shown to be out thought by oposition manager and its cost us....Nothing to do with his comments just pure tactical awareness by opposition! My problem with Harris us he does not learn or adapt game plan to change things like use of subs is appalling on both counts

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:11 pm

Have to agree with Neil Harris.. we can’t compete with those clubs, but not necessarily because they came down. They just have better players and management than us.

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:11 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
valleyrambill wrote:Harris needs to go but the blame has to go at the people who are running this club , Tan Dalman and Choo is he is still there we have very rich greedy men who know nothing about football. The reason they got rid of Malky was he was popular but was doing ok so I stand by what I said We got relegated by Tan & Dalman that season .

Warnock knows about football and he got us as a club again on his own then things gone wrong so Tan could get rid so he get a yes man in and we are in a mess again thank god we have no supporters in the ground imagine the reaction today.

Tan is the owner first he needs to get a manager and let him manage otherwise sell the club as he knows bugger all about football and makes our club look amusing to other people



SPOT ON :thumbright: :thumbright:

But watch out for the Red /Tan lovers



This topic is about Harris and his comments why bring in your pathetic agenda into it?

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:18 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
valleyrambill wrote:Harris needs to go but the blame has to go at the people who are running this club , Tan Dalman and Choo is he is still there we have very rich greedy men who know nothing about football. The reason they got rid of Malky was he was popular but was doing ok so I stand by what I said We got relegated by Tan & Dalman that season .

Warnock knows about football and he got us as a club again on his own then things gone wrong so Tan could get rid so he get a yes man in and we are in a mess again thank god we have no supporters in the ground imagine the reaction today.

Tan is the owner first he needs to get a manager and let him manage otherwise sell the club as he knows bugger all about football and makes our club look amusing to other people



SPOT ON :thumbright: :thumbright:

But watch out for the Red /Tan lovers



This topic is about Harris and his comments why bring in your pathetic agenda into it?



Not pathetic actually sadly the truth, as posters like Neil is going on every topic twisting it.

Yes i agree this is about todays match, but the bigger picture is, the future is very bleak under this current board.

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:22 pm

valleyrambill wrote:Harris needs to go but the blame has to go at the people who are running this club , Tan Dalman and Choo is he is still there we have very rich greedy men who know nothing about football. The reason they got rid of Malky was he was popular but was doing ok so I stand by what I said We got relegated by Tan & Dalman that season .

Warnock knows about football and he got us as a club again on his own then things gone wrong so Tan could get rid so he get a yes man in and we are in a mess again thank god we have no supporters in the ground imagine the reaction today.

Tan is the owner first he needs to get a manager and let him manage otherwise sell the club as he knows bugger all about football and makes our club look amusing to other people


Wow

Greedy men that have put over £200million into the club for transfers alone and have lost money over a decade whilst breaking out transfer records time and again getting us promoted

Malky was sacked because of the text messages, certain transfers and poor form on the pitch . They tried to save our season by hiring a person who was at the time one of the most highly rated young managers in football but it didn't work. That manager is now in charge of one of the biggest clubs in the world

Warnock walked away from the club after spending a fortune, failing to keep us up then having a awful start to a season in the championship despite spending a record amount for us in this league last season .

Can you show any proof that Tan is not letting his managers manage the team and is getting involved in matchday decisions

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:25 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
valleyrambill wrote:Harris needs to go but the blame has to go at the people who are running this club , Tan Dalman and Choo is he is still there we have very rich greedy men who know nothing about football. The reason they got rid of Malky was he was popular but was doing ok so I stand by what I said We got relegated by Tan & Dalman that season .

Warnock knows about football and he got us as a club again on his own then things gone wrong so Tan could get rid so he get a yes man in and we are in a mess again thank god we have no supporters in the ground imagine the reaction today.

Tan is the owner first he needs to get a manager and let him manage otherwise sell the club as he knows bugger all about football and makes our club look amusing to other people



SPOT ON :thumbright: :thumbright:

But watch out for the Red /Tan lovers



This topic is about Harris and his comments why bring in your pathetic agenda into it?


Not often I agree with you but I do on this occasion.

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:26 pm

Reply FB:
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:26 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
valleyrambill wrote:Harris needs to go but the blame has to go at the people who are running this club , Tan Dalman and Choo is he is still there we have very rich greedy men who know nothing about football. The reason they got rid of Malky was he was popular but was doing ok so I stand by what I said We got relegated by Tan & Dalman that season .

Warnock knows about football and he got us as a club again on his own then things gone wrong so Tan could get rid so he get a yes man in and we are in a mess again thank god we have no supporters in the ground imagine the reaction today.

Tan is the owner first he needs to get a manager and let him manage otherwise sell the club as he knows bugger all about football and makes our club look amusing to other people



SPOT ON :thumbright: :thumbright:

But watch out for the Red /Tan lovers



This topic is about Harris and his comments why bring in your pathetic agenda into it?



Not pathetic actually sadly the truth, as posters like Neil is going on every topic twisting it.

Yes i agree this is about todays match, but the bigger picture is, the future is very bleak under this current board.


Out of interest in what way is it bleak ?

Can't say they are not spending money on players or transfers because they do every window

Can't say we are financially in trouble as the club is stable

The manager is a big issue but get rid of him and make the correct appointment and all will be Rosey. Keep him and we will tread water comfortably in the championship with no threat of relegation of financial issues

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:49 pm

Harris shouldn't be saying those sort of things it's so negative , what sort of message does that send the players ,I would be very cautious about giving him money to spend

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:53 pm

Just pack your bags Narris and get out of our club. Useless b*stard.

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:04 pm

I posted this on a similar thread below .....

This was always going to be a tough run of games , fortunately we won 4 in a row before this sequence of games so am I surprised we lost to Brentford and Norwich....No!

But regarding not being able to compete with them !! No way ! Sorry but we were in Premier 2018/19 and had parachute payments before that and after so we should be competing with these teams .
The issue has been not utilising those seasons to build the club up off and on the field, putting in place a club ethos on how we want to play, the type of coach, manager , player who fit that style.!! I don’t call creating very little in open play and relying on set pieces as a good playing style !!

If we are able to start attending games later in 2021 , I worry about how many season tickets will get purchased based on the football product currently being served up and people who have lost their connection to the club during Coronavirus by not being able to attend games!

Next season there are no parachute payments , so no Wilson,etc more players will be sold to reduce wage bill.....it’s not looking good :(

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:24 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
valleyrambill wrote:Harris needs to go but the blame has to go at the people who are running this club , Tan Dalman and Choo is he is still there we have very rich greedy men who know nothing about football. The reason they got rid of Malky was he was popular but was doing ok so I stand by what I said We got relegated by Tan & Dalman that season .

Warnock knows about football and he got us as a club again on his own then things gone wrong so Tan could get rid so he get a yes man in and we are in a mess again thank god we have no supporters in the ground imagine the reaction today.

Tan is the owner first he needs to get a manager and let him manage otherwise sell the club as he knows bugger all about football and makes our club look amusing to other people



SPOT ON :thumbright: :thumbright:

But watch out for the Red /Tan lovers



This topic is about Harris and his comments why bring in your pathetic agenda into it?


Not often I agree with you but I do on this occasion.



Your back Paul, once again :lol:


So why is it not to do with just Neil Harris?

So does not the blame go to the top? or is it just to do with the manager?

Who employs him?

What is our committee about?


Please explain :thumbright:

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:27 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
valleyrambill wrote:Harris needs to go but the blame has to go at the people who are running this club , Tan Dalman and Choo is he is still there we have very rich greedy men who know nothing about football. The reason they got rid of Malky was he was popular but was doing ok so I stand by what I said We got relegated by Tan & Dalman that season .

Warnock knows about football and he got us as a club again on his own then things gone wrong so Tan could get rid so he get a yes man in and we are in a mess again thank god we have no supporters in the ground imagine the reaction today.

Tan is the owner first he needs to get a manager and let him manage otherwise sell the club as he knows bugger all about football and makes our club look amusing to other people



SPOT ON :thumbright: :thumbright:

But watch out for the Red /Tan lovers



This topic is about Harris and his comments why bring in your pathetic agenda into it?



Not pathetic actually sadly the truth, as posters like Neil is going on every topic twisting it.

Yes i agree this is about todays match, but the bigger picture is, the future is very bleak under this current board.


Out of interest in what way is it bleak ?

Can't say they are not spending money on players or transfers because they do every window

Can't say we are financially in trouble as the club is stable

The manager is a big issue but get rid of him and make the correct appointment and all will be Rosey. Keep him and we will tread water comfortably in the championship with no threat of relegation of financial issues




Where are we in the Championship?

Realistically have we a good chance of top 2?

How are we compared to 11 yrs yrs ago in the Championship?


How are our Under 23's doing ?

How are our Under 18's doing?


Our debt what is it?


Straight answers please Thomas :thumbright:

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:28 pm

billy ronson wrote:I posted this on a similar thread below .....

This was always going to be a tough run of games , fortunately we won 4 in a row before this sequence of games so am I surprised we lost to Brentford and Norwich....No!

But regarding not being able to compete with them !! No way ! Sorry but we were in Premier 2018/19 and had parachute payments before that and after so we should be competing with these teams .
The issue has been not utilising those seasons to build the club up off and on the field, putting in place a club ethos on how we want to play, the type of coach, manager , player who fit that style.!! I don’t call creating very little in open play and relying on set pieces as a good playing style !!

If we are able to start attending games later in 2021 , I worry about how many season tickets will get purchased based on the football product currently being served up and people who have lost their connection to the club during Coronavirus by not being able to attend games!

Next season there are no parachute payments , so no Wilson,etc more players will be sold to reduce wage bill.....it’s not looking good :(




A very realistic post, but to honest for Tan lovers.

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:29 pm

ion wrote:Harris shouldn't be saying those sort of things it's so negative , what sort of message does that send the players ,I would be very cautious about giving him money to spend




And Tan lovers wonder why we are negative on here after what Tans puppet Neil Harris keeps saying.

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:29 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
valleyrambill wrote:Harris needs to go but the blame has to go at the people who are running this club , Tan Dalman and Choo is he is still there we have very rich greedy men who know nothing about football. The reason they got rid of Malky was he was popular but was doing ok so I stand by what I said We got relegated by Tan & Dalman that season .

Warnock knows about football and he got us as a club again on his own then things gone wrong so Tan could get rid so he get a yes man in and we are in a mess again thank god we have no supporters in the ground imagine the reaction today.

Tan is the owner first he needs to get a manager and let him manage otherwise sell the club as he knows bugger all about football and makes our club look amusing to other people



SPOT ON :thumbright: :thumbright:

But watch out for the Red /Tan lovers



This topic is about Harris and his comments why bring in your pathetic agenda into it?


Not often I agree with you but I do on this occasion.



Your back Paul, once again :lol:


So why is it not to do with just Neil Harris?

So does not the blame go to the top? or is it just to do with the manager?

Who employs him?

What is our committee about?


Please explain :thumbright:


Quite simply I agreed with allans post because the topic was about the supposed comments that Harris said.

Re: MY VIEW HARRIS HAD ALREADY SAID WE CANT COMPETE WITH CLU

Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:30 pm

thomasblue wrote:
valleyrambill wrote:Harris needs to go but the blame has to go at the people who are running this club , Tan Dalman and Choo is he is still there we have very rich greedy men who know nothing about football. The reason they got rid of Malky was he was popular but was doing ok so I stand by what I said We got relegated by Tan & Dalman that season .

Warnock knows about football and he got us as a club again on his own then things gone wrong so Tan could get rid so he get a yes man in and we are in a mess again thank god we have no supporters in the ground imagine the reaction today.

Tan is the owner first he needs to get a manager and let him manage otherwise sell the club as he knows bugger all about football and makes our club look amusing to other people


Wow

Greedy men that have put over £200million into the club for transfers alone and have lost money over a decade whilst breaking out transfer records time and again getting us promoted

Malky was sacked because of the text messages, certain transfers and poor form on the pitch . They tried to save our season by hiring a person who was at the time one of the most highly rated young managers in football but it didn't work. That manager is now in charge of one of the biggest clubs in the world

Warnock walked away from the club after spending a fortune, failing to keep us up then having a awful start to a season in the championship despite spending a record amount for us in this league last season .

Can you show any proof that Tan is not letting his managers manage the team and is getting involved in matchday decisions



And had £390mill in parachute payments/sponsorship/merchandise/season tickets etc etc