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Re: OT: UPDATED AS 'BREXIT' DEAL IS AGREED

Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:04 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Danny Says wrote:
castleblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Drakeford not happy with the deal says it's not what was promised and was a thin deal for Wales :o


On Sunday Dripford said any deal was better than no deal. You just couldn't make it up but hang on we are dealing with Dripford.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


He’s inconsequential to the relevance of this deal.

Wales is part of the UK. The deal applies to the UK.




It does but there are things that effect home countries differently! But Welsh farmers and buisnesses are broadly happy except the fisherman's lot..... fishing deal is for 5.5 yrs EU wanted 8 so compromise there? at least there is end to EU control of our waters and fishing owners can plan ahead if required.

Yes, the farmers seem quite 'happy' with the deal; particularly the sheep farmers, who say this deal allows them to continue their businesses with minimal issue; just a little bit more paperwork and their minor cost implications

Re: OT: UPDATED AS 'BREXIT' DEAL IS AGREED

Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:07 pm

Floppsy wrote:Time will tell whether it's a good deal or not. Short term the general consensus among economists is that GDP will drop 1-2% as a result of us leaving. Long term, any benefit will depend on what trade deals can be negotiated with the rest of the world, particularly the US and emerging economies like Africa and India. Biden isnt in a rush to get a deal done as hes got domestic matters to concentrate on first.
Time will tell.

Yes yes but it’s much more than that; it’s the being independent and not fettered by a Union.

It’s how UK should be, not only in the macro sense but in every other way; independence of the individual and not bound by socialist ideals.

Re: OT: UPDATED AS 'BREXIT' DEAL IS AGREED

Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:21 pm

Danny Says wrote:
Floppsy wrote:Time will tell whether it's a good deal or not. Short term the general consensus among economists is that GDP will drop 1-2% as a result of us leaving. Long term, any benefit will depend on what trade deals can be negotiated with the rest of the world, particularly the US and emerging economies like Africa and India. Biden isnt in a rush to get a deal done as hes got domestic matters to concentrate on first.
Time will tell.

Yes yes but it’s much more than that; it’s the being independent and not fettered by a Union.

It’s how UK should be, not only in the macro sense but in every other way; independence of the individual and not bound by socialist ideals.


Exactly. We want close ties to Europe and access to trade and other bits that are mutually beneficial like air traffic control, anti terrorism cooperation and such like.

However we don’t want to be part of the bloated super state that the EU has become and definitely want to be outside of what it will become in the future.

Re: OT: UPDATED AS 'BREXIT' DEAL IS AGREED

Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:17 am

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Sven wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Danny Says wrote:
castleblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Drakeford not happy with the deal says it's not what was promised and was a thin deal for Wales :o


On Sunday Dripford said any deal was better than no deal. You just couldn't make it up but hang on we are dealing with Dripford.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


He’s inconsequential to the relevance of this deal.

Wales is part of the UK. The deal applies to the UK.




It does but there are things that effect home countries differently! But Welsh farmers and buisnesses are broadly happy except the fisherman's lot..... fishing deal is for 5.5 yrs EU wanted 8 so compromise there? at least there is end to EU control of our waters and fishing owners can plan ahead if required.

Yes, the farmers seem quite 'happy' with the deal; particularly the sheep farmers, who say this deal allows them to continue their businesses with minimal issue; just a little bit more paperwork and their minor cost implications



Chris
boris Was never going to keep everyone happy but consensus is it will work ? but looking at some of the things said EU could get nasty if UK tried for instance keep EU fleet from coming within 200 miles from our coast they could bring in massive tariffs but that's 6yrs away lot can change by then .. overtime we will have more trade elsewhere and can stand upto potential bullying from EU providing we have strong leadership if/when time comes

Re: OT: UPDATED AS 'BREXIT' DEAL IS AGREED

Fri Dec 25, 2020 11:19 am

There was always going to be a deal.

Re: OT: UPDATED AS 'BREXIT' DEAL IS AGREED

Fri Dec 25, 2020 11:30 am

Any deal is better than no deal. Currently both sides are arguing they’ve won so it’ll be interesting to see who conceded on what points when all the details come out.

The next government spending plan should be interesting too since Wales is losing £700m in funding each year from the EU. Be interesting to see where that’s gonna be replaced from.

Re: OT: UPDATED AS 'BREXIT' DEAL IS AGREED

Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:29 pm

maccydee wrote:
Danny Says wrote:
Floppsy wrote:Time will tell whether it's a good deal or not. Short term the general consensus among economists is that GDP will drop 1-2% as a result of us leaving. Long term, any benefit will depend on what trade deals can be negotiated with the rest of the world, particularly the US and emerging economies like Africa and India. Biden isnt in a rush to get a deal done as hes got domestic matters to concentrate on first.
Time will tell.

Yes yes but it’s much more than that; it’s the being independent and not fettered by a Union.

It’s how UK should be, not only in the macro sense but in every other way; independence of the individual and not bound by socialist ideals.


Exactly. We want close ties to Europe and access to trade and other bits that are mutually beneficial like air traffic control, anti terrorism cooperation and such like.

However we don’t want to be part of the bloated super state that the EU has become and definitely want to be outside of what it will become in the future.

Simple as that, yes to mutually beneficial trade, no to a Federal Europe led by unelected self serving parasites.

Re: OT: UPDATED AS 'BREXIT' DEAL IS AGREED

Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:37 pm

Jock wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Danny Says wrote:
Floppsy wrote:Time will tell whether it's a good deal or not. Short term the general consensus among economists is that GDP will drop 1-2% as a result of us leaving. Long term, any benefit will depend on what trade deals can be negotiated with the rest of the world, particularly the US and emerging economies like Africa and India. Biden isnt in a rush to get a deal done as hes got domestic matters to concentrate on first.
Time will tell.

Yes yes but it’s much more than that; it’s the being independent and not fettered by a Union.

It’s how UK should be, not only in the macro sense but in every other way; independence of the individual and not bound by socialist ideals.


Exactly. We want close ties to Europe and access to trade and other bits that are mutually beneficial like air traffic control, anti terrorism cooperation and such like.

However we don’t want to be part of the bloated super state that the EU has become and definitely want to be outside of what it will become in the future.

Simple as that, yes to mutually beneficial trade, no to a Federal Europe led by unelected self serving parasites.


Get a lot of it's bad for us like fishing car manufacturers but at end day fishing is a 5year deal cars not end world considering gvmnts want to ban them so work around things bit like anything else ..... but we are not in EU so its feeeedom! :occasion5:

Re: OT: UPDATED AS 'BREXIT' DEAL IS AGREED

Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:47 pm

That wet mop Starmer doesn’t disappoint with a pathetic description of the deal as ‘thin.’

As if he and his desperately weak party could have achieved a deal. He really is an uninspiring, unimaginative and lack lustre leader of the Socialists.

Drakeford followed suit like a moth to a light.

Re: OT: UPDATED AS 'BREXIT' DEAL IS AGREED

Fri Dec 25, 2020 2:08 pm

Danny Says wrote:That wet mop Starmer doesn’t disappoint with a pathetic description of the deal as ‘thin.’

As if he and his desperately weak party could have achieved a deal. He really is an uninspiring, unimaginative and lack lustre leader of the Socialists.

Drakeford followed suit like a moth to a light.




Always easy to criticise and pick holes in something when your looking from outside ... :old: