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Re: ' BORIS THE CLOWN '

Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:01 am

Boris Johnson says he and French President Emmanuel Macron are working to unblock the border "as fast as possible". He said they hoped to ease the flow of trade in the "next few hours".

The PM said only 20% of freight was affected by the border closure with France and supermarket supply chains remained "strong and robust".

Johnson said he understood the anxieties of those nations which have closed their borders to the UK - but added the risks of transmission from a solitary lorry driver "were really very low".

Re: ' BORIS THE CLOWN '

Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:37 am

thomasblue wrote:In fairness he has had probably the hardest two years of any prime minister outside of Wartime.

He's in a no win situation whatever he does. Impossible job for even the best politician.

He has made mistakes he shouldn't have made but it's easy to say that in hindsight. There is not a government in Europe that has come out of this well and that says everything .




most are doing worse mate...

Re: ' BORIS THE CLOWN '

Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:26 pm

skidemin wrote:
thomasblue wrote:In fairness he has had probably the hardest two years of any prime minister outside of Wartime.

He's in a no win situation whatever he does. Impossible job for even the best politician.

He has made mistakes he shouldn't have made but it's easy to say that in hindsight. There is not a government in Europe that has come out of this well and that says everything .




most are doing worse mate...


That's simply not true. The UK has the highest number of deaths in Europe and the third highest in the world behind Mexico and the USA.

Re: ' BORIS THE CLOWN '

Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:38 pm

BlueGog wrote:
skidemin wrote:
thomasblue wrote:In fairness he has had probably the hardest two years of any prime minister outside of Wartime.

He's in a no win situation whatever he does. Impossible job for even the best politician.

He has made mistakes he shouldn't have made but it's easy to say that in hindsight. There is not a government in Europe that has come out of this well and that says everything .




most are doing worse mate...


That's simply not true. The UK has the highest number of deaths in Europe and the third highest in the world behind Mexico and the USA.



its not great.....but not the worse in Europe either...its counted per 100k or per mill population equally along with everything else in life.... we also did not have abandoned care homes where the living were just left amongst the dead....or did we have people dying in hospital corridors...we were the 1st to start vaccinating... we test more people than anywhere in the whole world....we did better on PPE than many...i think the EU put 2021 on their delivery date..and did not imprison our population......we obviously get UK media so it looks worse but truth is other places are worse.....

Re: ' BORIS THE CLOWN '

Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:15 pm

BlueGog wrote:
castleblue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
BlueGog wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond :cry: , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles



The man has no idea. So many, even on here blaming France etc for the shambles today. Hauliers are today carrying the can for Boris Johnson’s utter failure to plan for the worst-case scenario. He should have had plans in place for this scenario before announcing tier 4 on Saturday. That's how he operates, announcement and then thinks how will we do that.
This is a government in meltdown


Welsh labour locked us down for longer, and have fecked the economy, we are in a much worse state than England, few cases in Gogland and West Wales yet you will all be locked down with the rest of Wales for God knows how long :thumbup:

It's easy for Captain hindsight to say we could have done things differently after the event, but Wales is an example of how much worse things would have been :thumbup:


Not sure where you get the idea Wales had a longer lock down. Most recently we had a 2 week lockdown, England had a 4 week lockdown. We originally went into lockdown on the same date back in March and restrictions were eased at similar rates across both countries except some places in England haven't once left lockdown, Leicester, Bradford, Coventry, etc.

Show me a town or City in Wales that has as harsh restrictions as some of the Midlands.

Point me to any economy in the world that hasn't been negatively impacted by Covid.

Check out the rates of any of the smaller towns and areas in tier 4 in England, some numbers are 700-800 per 100k whilst others are 200-300 per 100k.

We have a lower deaths per million rate than England and higher testing rates than England.


The original lockdown Dripford delayed ending it, restricted travel and took his time coming out in the spring when Covid had all but disappeared.

In Winter he tried to jump the gun with a firebreak but fecked up by giving it a two-week end date, everyone came out of lockdown and went mad and the rest is history, it's rife in South Wales and he will lock us down forever, as our health service is fecked with only 10 spare intensive care beds. December is a relatively quiet month normally classed as the calm before the storm, you wait until January and February we will have people being treated in the corridors and will be begging for English hospitals to bail us out!


This virus mutation is Manna From Heaven for Dripford and he didn't let the opportunity go by today. My silly named Firebreak did everything we intended it to do and it's this new virus mutation that is driving infections in Wales now. He really does have a brass neck even though his expert said that last week we had about 20 cases in South Wales with about half that number in North Wales, that represents about 0.002% of the new infections confirmed in Wales last week.

It's like Boris putting London in Tier 4 lockdown Manna From Heaven for Drippy who was itching to get high on another power trip.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Your ignorance knows no bounds! :banghead:
You need to get out more. I'm no fan of Drakeford or Welsh Labour, but haven't you noticed that thing have changed in Wales since March. While you are obviously a Westminster loving person, Wales on the whole think Drakeford is doing an excellent job and rate him far higher than Johnson in polls.
Simply because Wales has ploughed it's own successful furrow support for independence has shot up to 35% this is happening now in the big world outside this forum.


Ignorance is a new one for me but I tell you what I can smell the looney left a mile off.

Drakeford a success :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Does that include him saying wearing face masks only provided a marginal benefit, does that include him saying that talking about testing numbers was a distraction. Successful furrow my mothers arse.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: ' BORIS THE CLOWN '

Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:25 pm

BlueGog wrote:
skidemin wrote:
thomasblue wrote:In fairness he has had probably the hardest two years of any prime minister outside of Wartime.

He's in a no win situation whatever he does. Impossible job for even the best politician.

He has made mistakes he shouldn't have made but it's easy to say that in hindsight. There is not a government in Europe that has come out of this well and that says everything .




most are doing worse mate...


That's simply not true. The UK has the highest number of deaths in Europe and the third highest in the world behind Mexico and the USA.


The looney left need to do some fact checking here.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: ' BORIS THE CLOWN '

Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:34 pm

BlueGog wrote:
glas wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
glas wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
BlueGog wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond :cry: , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles



The man has no idea. So many, even on here blaming France etc for the shambles today. Hauliers are today carrying the can for Boris Johnson’s utter failure to plan for the worst-case scenario. He should have had plans in place for this scenario before announcing tier 4 on Saturday. That's how he operates, announcement and then thinks how will we do that.
This is a government in meltdown


Welsh labour locked us down for longer, and have fecked the economy, we are in a much worse state than England, few cases in Gogland and West Wales yet you will all be locked down with the rest of Wales for God knows how long :thumbup:

It's easy for Captain hindsight to say we could have done things differently after the event, but Wales is an example of how much worse things would have been :thumbup:


Not sure where you get the idea Wales had a longer lock down. Most recently we had a 2 week lockdown, England had a 4 week lockdown. We originally went into lockdown on the same date back in March and restrictions were eased at similar rates across both countries except some places in England haven't once left lockdown, Leicester, Bradford, Coventry, etc.

Show me a town or City in Wales that has as harsh restrictions as some of the Midlands.

Point me to any economy in the world that hasn't been negatively impacted by Covid.

Check out the rates of any of the smaller towns and areas in tier 4 in England, some numbers are 700-800 per 100k whilst others are 200-300 per 100k.

We have a lower deaths per million rate than England and higher testing rates than England.


But we now all know that Wales NHS has not been counting the figures correctly. 1,000's missing off the data. Tests not registered or lost. Incompetence covered up by claims of a computer technical error.


And England ended up missing 10’s of thousands of cases in September because they ran out of rows on their Excel spreadsheet.
Our death rate, even with new added 11,000 cases, is still lower than England’s and our testing rates also remain higher.

And it wasn’t a computer technical error, they were performing system maintenance which created a backlog of tests that needed to be completed. Once those tests were completed the results were released.


I remember that excel fiasco. Typical civil/public service dimwits. I see it all the time, with "we are computer experts" which really means "I play computer/Xbox games 4 hours a night." They get well paid jobs but are clueless, and can't be sacked.
Originally they stated technical errors then changed it to maintenance. It took days for the maintenance to be done, why? Surely that is planned for quiet times.

In March, Vaughan Gethin promised 8000 or 9000 tests a day would be undertaken by the Welsh NHS/PHW and it took almost 5 months to get to 3000. In the end we needed UK government money to provide a laboratory to get it up to about an average of 9000 today. The Welsh NHS/PHW would never have achieved the figure without UK government money.
Even now tests are being sent all over the UK to be carried out.

I don't know about England, but in Wales I do know that lots of tests are being lost, tests are taking up to 2 weeks in some cases to be carried out and people notified, and the tracing system is several weeks behind.
We all know this is a new phenomenon (throughout the world) and to set up testing and tracing systems that are efficient takes time and money, and virtually every country in the world is not performing efficiently. So please don't try to make out Wales is outperforming England when we are a much smaller population and would be no where without the UK governments money, supplies and expertise.


Bullshit. In March the Senedd had ordered 5000 tests a day by the Roche company in Germany. The order was gazumped by the Westminster government who offered Roche more money simply because they had not ordered any tests at the time and were playing catch up. Get your facts right mate.


Again the looney left in complete denial. If as you claim 20 years of Welsh Labour Government has been a success why did Public Health Wales have to outsource testing, could it be that the Welsh Labour Government spends less than 1% of it's health budget on "Infectious Disease". By the way it was testing kits not tests you really must fact check you claims LL.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: ' BORIS THE CLOWN '

Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:53 pm

castleblue wrote:
BlueGog wrote:
glas wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
glas wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
BlueGog wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond :cry: , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles



The man has no idea. So many, even on here blaming France etc for the shambles today. Hauliers are today carrying the can for Boris Johnson’s utter failure to plan for the worst-case scenario. He should have had plans in place for this scenario before announcing tier 4 on Saturday. That's how he operates, announcement and then thinks how will we do that.
This is a government in meltdown


Welsh labour locked us down for longer, and have fecked the economy, we are in a much worse state than England, few cases in Gogland and West Wales yet you will all be locked down with the rest of Wales for God knows how long :thumbup:

It's easy for Captain hindsight to say we could have done things differently after the event, but Wales is an example of how much worse things would have been :thumbup:


Not sure where you get the idea Wales had a longer lock down. Most recently we had a 2 week lockdown, England had a 4 week lockdown. We originally went into lockdown on the same date back in March and restrictions were eased at similar rates across both countries except some places in England haven't once left lockdown, Leicester, Bradford, Coventry, etc.

Show me a town or City in Wales that has as harsh restrictions as some of the Midlands.

Point me to any economy in the world that hasn't been negatively impacted by Covid.

Check out the rates of any of the smaller towns and areas in tier 4 in England, some numbers are 700-800 per 100k whilst others are 200-300 per 100k.

We have a lower deaths per million rate than England and higher testing rates than England.


But we now all know that Wales NHS has not been counting the figures correctly. 1,000's missing off the data. Tests not registered or lost. Incompetence covered up by claims of a computer technical error.


And England ended up missing 10’s of thousands of cases in September because they ran out of rows on their Excel spreadsheet.
Our death rate, even with new added 11,000 cases, is still lower than England’s and our testing rates also remain higher.

And it wasn’t a computer technical error, they were performing system maintenance which created a backlog of tests that needed to be completed. Once those tests were completed the results were released.


I remember that excel fiasco. Typical civil/public service dimwits. I see it all the time, with "we are computer experts" which really means "I play computer/Xbox games 4 hours a night." They get well paid jobs but are clueless, and can't be sacked.
Originally they stated technical errors then changed it to maintenance. It took days for the maintenance to be done, why? Surely that is planned for quiet times.

In March, Vaughan Gethin promised 8000 or 9000 tests a day would be undertaken by the Welsh NHS/PHW and it took almost 5 months to get to 3000. In the end we needed UK government money to provide a laboratory to get it up to about an average of 9000 today. The Welsh NHS/PHW would never have achieved the figure without UK government money.
Even now tests are being sent all over the UK to be carried out.

I don't know about England, but in Wales I do know that lots of tests are being lost, tests are taking up to 2 weeks in some cases to be carried out and people notified, and the tracing system is several weeks behind.
We all know this is a new phenomenon (throughout the world) and to set up testing and tracing systems that are efficient takes time and money, and virtually every country in the world is not performing efficiently. So please don't try to make out Wales is outperforming England when we are a much smaller population and would be no where without the UK governments money, supplies and expertise.


Bullshit. In March the Senedd had ordered 5000 tests a day by the Roche company in Germany. The order was gazumped by the Westminster government who offered Roche more money simply because they had not ordered any tests at the time and were playing catch up. Get your facts right mate.


Again the looney left in complete denial. If as you claim 20 years of Welsh Labour Government has been a success why did Public Health Wales have to outsource testing, could it be that the Welsh Labour Government spends less than 1% of it's health budget on "Infectious Disease". By the way it was testing kits not tests you really must fact check you claims LL.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:



we did get some of that gear off the UK government... and did not have a 5k a day capacity for months after this incident... so in a nutshell they would prefer stuff sat on a shelf in wales than used in England.... the exact type of thing they accuse the English of...

Re: ' BORIS THE CLOWN '

Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:05 pm

skidemin wrote:
castleblue wrote:
BlueGog wrote:
glas wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
glas wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
BlueGog wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:BORIS THE CLOWN

Late on lockdown

Late on face masks

Late on PPE

Late on final Xmas plans

Late on Brexit deal

etc etc

Costing lives beyond :cry: , for me Boris Johnson one of the worst ever PM'S.





The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:

PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Xmas- shambles



The man has no idea. So many, even on here blaming France etc for the shambles today. Hauliers are today carrying the can for Boris Johnson’s utter failure to plan for the worst-case scenario. He should have had plans in place for this scenario before announcing tier 4 on Saturday. That's how he operates, announcement and then thinks how will we do that.
This is a government in meltdown


Welsh labour locked us down for longer, and have fecked the economy, we are in a much worse state than England, few cases in Gogland and West Wales yet you will all be locked down with the rest of Wales for God knows how long :thumbup:

It's easy for Captain hindsight to say we could have done things differently after the event, but Wales is an example of how much worse things would have been :thumbup:


Not sure where you get the idea Wales had a longer lock down. Most recently we had a 2 week lockdown, England had a 4 week lockdown. We originally went into lockdown on the same date back in March and restrictions were eased at similar rates across both countries except some places in England haven't once left lockdown, Leicester, Bradford, Coventry, etc.

Show me a town or City in Wales that has as harsh restrictions as some of the Midlands.

Point me to any economy in the world that hasn't been negatively impacted by Covid.

Check out the rates of any of the smaller towns and areas in tier 4 in England, some numbers are 700-800 per 100k whilst others are 200-300 per 100k.

We have a lower deaths per million rate than England and higher testing rates than England.


But we now all know that Wales NHS has not been counting the figures correctly. 1,000's missing off the data. Tests not registered or lost. Incompetence covered up by claims of a computer technical error.


And England ended up missing 10’s of thousands of cases in September because they ran out of rows on their Excel spreadsheet.
Our death rate, even with new added 11,000 cases, is still lower than England’s and our testing rates also remain higher.

And it wasn’t a computer technical error, they were performing system maintenance which created a backlog of tests that needed to be completed. Once those tests were completed the results were released.


I remember that excel fiasco. Typical civil/public service dimwits. I see it all the time, with "we are computer experts" which really means "I play computer/Xbox games 4 hours a night." They get well paid jobs but are clueless, and can't be sacked.
Originally they stated technical errors then changed it to maintenance. It took days for the maintenance to be done, why? Surely that is planned for quiet times.

In March, Vaughan Gethin promised 8000 or 9000 tests a day would be undertaken by the Welsh NHS/PHW and it took almost 5 months to get to 3000. In the end we needed UK government money to provide a laboratory to get it up to about an average of 9000 today. The Welsh NHS/PHW would never have achieved the figure without UK government money.
Even now tests are being sent all over the UK to be carried out.

I don't know about England, but in Wales I do know that lots of tests are being lost, tests are taking up to 2 weeks in some cases to be carried out and people notified, and the tracing system is several weeks behind.
We all know this is a new phenomenon (throughout the world) and to set up testing and tracing systems that are efficient takes time and money, and virtually every country in the world is not performing efficiently. So please don't try to make out Wales is outperforming England when we are a much smaller population and would be no where without the UK governments money, supplies and expertise.


Bullshit. In March the Senedd had ordered 5000 tests a day by the Roche company in Germany. The order was gazumped by the Westminster government who offered Roche more money simply because they had not ordered any tests at the time and were playing catch up. Get your facts right mate.


Again the looney left in complete denial. If as you claim 20 years of Welsh Labour Government has been a success why did Public Health Wales have to outsource testing, could it be that the Welsh Labour Government spends less than 1% of it's health budget on "Infectious Disease". By the way it was testing kits not tests you really must fact check you claims LL.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:



we did get some of that gear off the UK government... and did not have a 5k a day capacity for months after this incident... so in a nutshell they would prefer stuff sat on a shelf in wales than used in England.... the exact type of thing they accuse the English of...



:thumbup:

Re: ' BORIS THE CLOWN '

Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:14 pm

Well, it seems the Government hasn’t melted yet..

Re: ' BORIS THE CLOWN '

Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:17 pm

rumpo kid wrote:Well, it seems the Government hasn’t melted yet..



i think Gogg has covid and brexit mixed up///sound sorta similar if your drunk enough ...

cant wait for people like him to be arguing on TV for independence tbh...its going to be comedy gold...

Re: ' BORIS THE CLOWN '

Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:19 pm

Yesterday - Boris kids must go back to school ....Today the virus spreads in schools :roll: :roll:

LOCKDOWN - LOCKDOWN - LOCKDOWN - Blind Leading The Blind ...

Stay Home - Protect the NHS - Save Lives - It's Back ;)

Re: ' BORIS THE CLOWN '

Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:57 am

TopCat CCFC wrote:Yesterday - Boris kids must go back to school ....Today the virus spreads in schools :roll: :roll:

LOCKDOWN - LOCKDOWN - LOCKDOWN - Blind Leading The Blind ...

Stay Home - Protect the NHS - Save Lives - It's Back ;)


Tony, I stand by he is a clown.

He dithers and always acts to late.

A proper lockdown should of been done months ago, he waits till its virtually out of control.

For me its a not a lockdown if you can exercise every day, we saw how that got abused last time.

Also as the PM, all the Nations should be doing the same , all this Bristol cant shop, but Cardiff can or the other way around people just travelled to each others Cities.

Re: ' BORIS THE CLOWN '

Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:38 am

Forever Blue wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:Yesterday - Boris kids must go back to school ....Today the virus spreads in schools :roll: :roll:

LOCKDOWN - LOCKDOWN - LOCKDOWN - Blind Leading The Blind ...

Stay Home - Protect the NHS - Save Lives - It's Back ;)


Tony, I stand by he is a clown.

He dithers and always acts to late.

A proper lockdown should of been done months ago, he waits till its virtually out of control.

For me its a not a lockdown if you can exercise every day, we saw how that got abused last time.

Also as the PM, all the Nations should be doing the same , all this Bristol cant shop, but Cardiff can or the other way around people just travelled to each others Cities.


Agreed, although not much point travelling to Cardiff now as nothing's open :roll: :lol:

I've said all along though, it's not about where/how far you travel in a car it's what you do when you get there.

For instance, at the end of the first lockdown everyone said there would be a spike in Aug/Sep due to all the holiday makers flocking top the coastal towns and I've never seem Cardigan Bay so busy. However, that didn't happen because people were outdoors and, in the main, were sensible.

However, when we re-opened schools, colleges and universities as well as going back to previous levels of commuters (80,000 a day in Cardiff alone) through September/October the spike started and ramped up out of control because nobody would make a decision on what was blindingly obvious :roll:

My biggest problem with all the leaders of the UK nations is that they have never accepted the impact of students and commuters, all the other restrictions are just tinkering around the edges with limited impact on infection rates. The facts are there for us, and them, to see.