" Does anyone genuinely enjoy watching this team? "

Our sole tactic seems to be to get the ball forward into a position so we can win a corner, free kick or throw in and then hope Morrison either gets on target or we get a knock down within 12 yards of the goal. Dreadful stuff.

thing is the Ref doesnt just give you x amount of corners, free kicks, or throw ins in good positions.. the opposition give them to you.. and they are giving them to you because they are under pressure from ourselves { id imagine NOT giving us dead ball is actually quite high on their agenda ? } .

Our sole tactic seems to be to get the ball forward into a position so we can win a corner, free kick or throw in and then hope Morrison either gets on target or we get a knock down within 12 yards of the goal. Dreadful stuff.

thing is the Ref doesnt just give you x amount of corners, free kicks, or throw ins in good positions.. the opposition give them to you.. and they are giving them to you because they are under pressure from ourselves { id imagine NOT giving us dead ball is actually quite high on their agenda ? } .

All the commentators and pundits say same thing mustnt give us opportunity to put in area.... easier said than done if under pressure? It's only the silly free kicks that can be avoided and Norwich we terrible for giving us them.

Swansea’s managerial appointments are interesting.. going back to Molby in the 90s, they are mostly( bar one or two) very good appointments. Martinez, Rodgers, Sousa, Laudrup all did well - didn’t really last that long, but were replaced with continuity in mind. Those that didn’t work out(Carvahal, Guidolin, Bradley) were also dispatched in short time.

Recently Potter and Cooper have continued this decent work. They’re prepared to gamble, and if it goes wrong, start again. All in all, the quality is good. Tan may be being badly advised, but what do I know? Only what I see really..

Our sole tactic seems to be to get the ball forward into a position so we can win a corner, free kick or throw in and then hope Morrison either gets on target or we get a knock down within 12 yards of the goal. Dreadful stuff.

thing is the Ref doesnt just give you x amount of corners, free kicks, or throw ins in good positions.. the opposition give them to you.. and they are giving them to you because they are under pressure from ourselves { id imagine NOT giving us dead ball is actually quite high on their agenda ? } .

All the commentators and pundits say same thing mustnt give us opportunity to put in area.... easier said than done if under pressure? It's only the silly free kicks that can be avoided and Norwich we terrible for giving us them.

indeed..their manager even pointed out the threat that Morrison would pose them prior to the game,, so i doubt his instructions were give away as many corners as you like because they have midgets...

I watch us for the sole purpose of hoping we win. Entertainment comes second and it always has. That’s probably why I’ve been a fan for so long.
In answer to your question though if I was watching purely for enjoyment I’d be switching off pretty quickly in most matches.

Our sole tactic seems to be to get the ball forward into a position so we can win a corner, free kick or throw in and then hope Morrison either gets on target or we get a knock down within 12 yards of the goal. Dreadful stuff.

thing is the Ref doesnt just give you x amount of corners, free kicks, or throw ins in good positions.. the opposition give them to you.. and they are giving them to you because they are under pressure from ourselves { id imagine NOT giving us dead ball is actually quite high on their agenda ? } .

All the commentators and pundits say same thing mustnt give us opportunity to put in area.... easier said than done if under pressure? It's only the silly free kicks that can be avoided and Norwich we terrible for giving us them.

indeed..their manager even pointed out the threat that Morrison would pose them prior to the game,, so i doubt his instructions were give away as many corners as you like because they have midgets...

Very true! But what did notice we were far more effective Saturday and last couple of games and caused them untold problems from dead ball situations which we haven't been doing as Morrison is marked by 2 or more players perhaps it's been tweeked a bit and resulting in more chances? Either way its here to stay for this season at least

The problem is the managers we have had over the last 10 years. There is no one with the football knowledge to advise Tan. Choo and Dalman are businessmen not football men. We keep having the same type of manager who buy the same type of player. I have watched the city since 1973 and there has been good and bad times. I think Tan is a good owner but needs advising. Bring Bellamy in as manager, give him a couple of transfer windows and I’m positive we will see a football team worthy of our fans and a Sunday league team trying to play in the championship.

Warnock promotion season , there were a some games at the start where we were playing good stuff in particular Aston Villa!

Since then , the odd moments but generally the football style on offer has been very boring and one dimensional.

Well said. People seem to have forgotten how good we were in the first third of that season. Sheff Utd and Leeds are two other early games in which we played great football. Injuries to Zahore and Gunnarson and a bad run after that saw Warnock change the style to grind out results.

Our sole tactic seems to be to get the ball forward into a position so we can win a corner, free kick or throw in and then hope Morrison either gets on target or we get a knock down within 12 yards of the goal. Dreadful stuff.

thing is the Ref doesnt just give you x amount of corners, free kicks, or throw ins in good positions.. the opposition give them to you.. and they are giving them to you because they are under pressure from ourselves { id imagine NOT giving us dead ball is actually quite high on their agenda ? } .

The question was do you enjoy watching it- not is it effective?. And the answer is no

Our sole tactic seems to be to get the ball forward into a position so we can win a corner, free kick or throw in and then hope Morrison either gets on target or we get a knock down within 12 yards of the goal. Dreadful stuff.

thing is the Ref doesnt just give you x amount of corners, free kicks, or throw ins in good positions.. the opposition give them to you.. and they are giving them to you because they are under pressure from ourselves { id imagine NOT giving us dead ball is actually quite high on their agenda ? } .

The question was do you enjoy watching it- not is it effective?. And the answer is no

i love football mate... love watching the City..always have..... and football is about being effective,.,,where all this pretentious bollox has come from i really dont know..... ive yet to see us lose and the faces be full of joy leaving the ground and everyone talking about how losing dont matter..

Our sole tactic seems to be to get the ball forward into a position so we can win a corner, free kick or throw in and then hope Morrison either gets on target or we get a knock down within 12 yards of the goal. Dreadful stuff.

thing is the Ref doesnt just give you x amount of corners, free kicks, or throw ins in good positions.. the opposition give them to you.. and they are giving them to you because they are under pressure from ourselves { id imagine NOT giving us dead ball is actually quite high on their agenda ? } .

The question was do you enjoy watching it- not is it effective?. And the answer is no

i love football mate... love watching the City..always have..... and football is about being effective,.,,where all this pretentious bollox has come from i really dont know..... ive yet to see us lose and the faces be full of joy leaving the ground and everyone talking about how losing dont matter..

It’s all about winning and losing.

Slade’s football was as ugly as Malky’s. Difference was the results on the pitch.

Warnock’s football was much the same. When we were winning it was class when losing it was the football is shite.

Harris ditto for Warnock.

Our sole tactic seems to be to get the ball forward into a position so we can win a corner, free kick or throw in and then hope Morrison either gets on target or we get a knock down within 12 yards of the goal. Dreadful stuff.

thing is the Ref doesnt just give you x amount of corners, free kicks, or throw ins in good positions.. the opposition give them to you.. and they are giving them to you because they are under pressure from ourselves { id imagine NOT giving us dead ball is actually quite high on their agenda ? } .

The question was do you enjoy watching it- not is it effective?. And the answer is no

It's no from you but were not all same are we? I dont enjoy watching trippy tappy football played in own half! It's a matter of perspective? I enjoy some games get frustrated with others and hate some but there again that could be because of opposition playing boring football and affecting way city play!

Our sole tactic seems to be to get the ball forward into a position so we can win a corner, free kick or throw in and then hope Morrison either gets on target or we get a knock down within 12 yards of the goal. Dreadful stuff.

thing is the Ref doesnt just give you x amount of corners, free kicks, or throw ins in good positions.. the opposition give them to you.. and they are giving them to you because they are under pressure from ourselves { id imagine NOT giving us dead ball is actually quite high on their agenda ? } .

The question was do you enjoy watching it- not is it effective?. And the answer is no

i love football mate... love watching the City..always have..... and football is about being effective,.,,where all this pretentious bollox has come from i really dont know..... ive yet to see us lose and the faces be full of joy leaving the ground and everyone talking about how losing dont matter..

You may have hit the nail on the head there. We are not at the ground anymore so we don't get caught up with the excitement of it like we used to. All we are left with is a sterile game on TV played in front of none or few fans. The entertainment value becomes more important. The Stoke game was awful and though it was great to come from behind, the feeling was nothing like it would have been if I had gone up there. The scenes when the second goal went in would have been manic and despite the standard of the game we would have been buzzing all the way home.

Our sole tactic seems to be to get the ball forward into a position so we can win a corner, free kick or throw in and then hope Morrison either gets on target or we get a knock down within 12 yards of the goal. Dreadful stuff.

thing is the Ref doesnt just give you x amount of corners, free kicks, or throw ins in good positions.. the opposition give them to you.. and they are giving them to you because they are under pressure from ourselves { id imagine NOT giving us dead ball is actually quite high on their agenda ? } .

The question was do you enjoy watching it- not is it effective?. And the answer is no

i love football mate... love watching the City..always have..... and football is about being effective,.,,where all this pretentious bollox has come from i really dont know..... ive yet to see us lose and the faces be full of joy leaving the ground and everyone talking about how losing dont matter..

You may have hit the nail on the head there. We are not at the ground anymore so we don't get caught up with the excitement of it like we used to. All we are left with is a sterile game on TV played in front of none or few fans. The entertainment value becomes more important. The Stoke game was awful and though it was great to come from behind, the feeling was nothing like it would have been if I had gone up there. The scenes when the second goal went in would have been manic and despite the standard of the game we would have been buzzing all the way home.

to some degree yes.. but ive been reading it more and more even when we could attend... but my take is..i seen us relegated back in 2000 { watched about 35 games that season } ... hallworth, young, legg, bowen, fowler etc... and i didnt think we were one of the worse dozen teams let alone the worse 3 but we just couldnt win the games we dominated in...... which made zero difference to how crap i felt leaving Priestfields duely relegated.... on the other hand ive been absolutely over the moon in promotion seasons where games have been dire... im not alone either ,in fact judging by reactions of the other fans present im in an enormous majority....

Is it any wonder two best teams to come out of this division in recent years Wolves and Leeds both foreign managers.

Is it any wonder two best teams to come out of this division in recent years Wolves and Leeds both foreign managers.

and both spent a fortune..

Is it any wonder two best teams to come out of this division in recent years Wolves and Leeds both foreign managers.

and both spent a fortune..

And one,for all their attacking prowess,got tanked 6-2 ,I have said for ages,even during winning promotion, that their defence was dog shite,and they still are,yes they had 17 efforts against manure, but only 2 went in!! And six in the other end to boot.pretty attacking football,doesn't always pan out.and they are only a poor run away fro the relegation spots,with all the money spent,and as wolves have found out,if you have decent players,then the big boys WILL buy them from you (Joya a perfect example )

Is it any wonder two best teams to come out of this division in recent years Wolves and Leeds both foreign managers.

We spent a fortune relatively in getting promoted and once in the premier league.

We just had a manager who pished it away.

I am 100% with Allan and Cendle, i prefer direct football over tikki taka or whatever they call it nowadays.

Liverpool are very direct they get the ball into the danger areas quickly, its not aimless stuff smack it to the big man and hope for a flick on or win the second ball. Its get it to the two wide forwards who always run diagonally straight to goal. The full backs stopped being defenders ages ago and are far more offensive than defensive minded.

Malkys football was excruciating to watch, he strangled the joy out the game, but he had Whitts hitting long balls so they were super accurate and because of him we held onto the ball far more than we did with subsequent managers. We rarely made needless passes and when we did our fan base groaned like fcuk. And therein lies the problem. The vocal majority alway love a up and at them trier over a cultured class player, "get it forward mun".

Moore is superior to Glatzel in nearly everything and Harris found out he is a lot better with help, so what does he do, leaves Glatzel on his own with Ralls as a 10. Harris has no history with the style we are talking about. We need to find a German or European experienced coach who can coach the patterns of play. We also need a DoF to help recruit the right type of player.

Absolutely agree, great post

I am 100% with Allan and Cendle, i prefer direct football over tikki taka or whatever they call it nowadays.

Liverpool are very direct they get the ball into the danger areas quickly, its not aimless stuff smack it to the big man and hope for a flick on or win the second ball. Its get it to the two wide forwards who always run diagonally straight to goal. The full backs stopped being defenders ages ago and are far more offensive than defensive minded.

Malkys football was excruciating to watch, he strangled the joy out the game, but he had Whitts hitting long balls so they were super accurate and because of him we held onto the ball far more than we did with subsequent managers. We rarely made needless passes and when we did our fan base groaned like fcuk. And therein lies the problem. The vocal majority alway love a up and at them trier over a cultured class player, "get it forward mun".

Moore is superior to Glatzel in nearly everything and Harris found out he is a lot better with help, so what does he do, leaves Glatzel on his own with Ralls as a 10. Harris has no history with the style we are talking about. We need to find a German or European experienced coach who can coach the patterns of play. We also need a DoF to help recruit the right type of player.

Absolutely agree, great post

Yes me too. Hope Ralls is never played at10 again. He’s not good enough for that position and that’s not a swipe at him at all as we miss him greatly in his correct position which is the middle of the park.

I get frustrated by our lack of quality football compared to a lot of teams we play but it would take quite a lot of time, patience and potentially money to change. I dont think were blessed with all three. Not sure changing Harris would do it but the football can be very tedious

Must be me but I find a lot of teams tedious to watch passing for sake of it can be as tedious as watching same type football from city week after week! Lots teams cannot change way play even if losing 1-0 in injury time can't even get ball into pen area to attempt to score so fixed on passing it amongst themselves... can say city try best to get ball in area its only way going to score..

People seem to think that its either long ball football or needless passing along the back 4 , with nothing between the two styles. You can play direct football without lumping it long all the time. To do that though you need defenders capable of passing it out from the back and pace and creativity in the middle. We have neither. We also play with no width. Inevitably everything goes long and better, well drilled teams can easily defend against it.

At end day Harris was forced to revert back to a system that suits the players we have and it's worked! But if h we did manage promotion we are screwed because hardly one player is good enough to play in premier league and would need 12 new players to make a go of it.. personally I think we need either a new manager end season who as history of playing expansive football or keep Harris cheaper option? but with both scenarios we need major backing to get in the players to alter totally the ethos of side to a passing game

Yes we are better suited to the style we are currently playing. And we don't have a manager with the experience to change it or a squad capable of playing any different. There was nothing boring or tedious about the way Norwich continued to open up our defence and if it wasn't for some wasteful finishing they could have put 5 or 6 passed us. It wasnt too long ago Norwich changed their style of play. They flirted with relegation the first season but stuck with it and then got promoted the next season. I'm not saying we could be promoted in 2 season or play like they do (they are essentially a prem club in the championship) but it just shows that with a clear plan and the right recruitment, changes can be made successfully.

Direct football is all well and good but we got found out against Norwich and the Jacks. Brentford are also a passing team who believe the more you have the ball the more likely you are to create chances.

Ivan Toney is going to outplay and out skill our defence.

I’d love to hear Neils thoughts on why he’s not opting to change the style of play. And for FFS play Benkovic!! What’s the worst that could happen, we concede cheap goals!!??? Oh wait.

Agree most city fans ive met seem to like the knock it forward quick brand of football.too many passes causes irritation to them.
In stark contradiction to that though my and many city fans all time favourite player Jason koumas was class and culture personified.he kept possession and just ghosted across the field .

Agree most city fans ive met seem to like the knock it forward quick brand of football.too many passes causes irritation to them.
In stark contradiction to that though my and many city fans all time favourite player Jason koumas was class and culture personified.he kept possession and just ghosted across the field .

He did. He was direct with it though.

I can say that I have genuinely not enjoyed our style of play since Dave Jones. Since then we've been a well organised, but very direct and limited team, who are often reliant on set pieces.

I still find it crazy that we opt for the long throw. I'd love to know how many goals we have conceded from counter attacks following our long throws, vs how many goals we've scored, because we rarely ever score and often leave ourselves exposed.

To be honest.. I have now stopped watching them.. And I have been going since 1982..