Wednesday Night 3 Things A Given?

Right back is not the issue at the moment , the left hand side of our defence is what's casing the issue. Bacuna has done a decent job filling in so I wouldnt risk moving Nelson to right back.

We are conceding most of our goals because of the Bennett / Nelson partnership. Drop them both.

I think given the injuries then a move to a back 3 with wing backs would be the better idea.

Bring in Benkovic and Bamba to sit in with Morrison.

Bring Bacuna into the middle with Vaulks

Play Hoilett and Ojo Wide

Put Wilson as the playmaker in the centre

Partner Glatzel with Murphy up front

3412 formation allows us to get out best defenders and attacking players on the pitch. It so makes it easy to adjust formations if required without using a sub.

Smithies

Morrison
Benkovic
Bamba

Ojo
Bacuna
Vaulks
Hoilett

Wilson
Glatzel
Murphy

Not sure how much pace Benko has but that’s a lack of pace at the back.

Putting a lot on Ojo and Hoilett defensively when they aren’t really defensively sound.

We can still get outnumbered in midfield.

If played right then no need to get outnumbered. What would you do stick 6 midfielders in and no strikers. If players work hard and to the job asked of them properly then we wouldn't get outnumbered.

If the defensive midfielders do the job properly then there would be little need for Hoett and Ojo to have a lot of defensive duties and cod concentrate on offensive duties.
If we actually played with the ball instead of long balls and throws all the time we would have players in position to control the game rather than chase the ball all the time.

How can you say its a lack of pace when you admit yourself you do not know the player ?

Because Morrison and Bamba are not pacy.

Are they any slower than most centre backs in this league ?
Its not exactly a position that pace is a must, in fact most of the best centre backs to have evernplayed the game were not blessed with pace. Its about being quick minded and to be able to read the game more than quick footed. Positional noise is a better quality than pace for a centre back

Right back is not the issue at the moment , the left hand side of our defence is what's casing the issue. Bacuna has done a decent job filling in so I wouldnt risk moving Nelson to right back.

We are conceding most of our goals because of the Bennett / Nelson partnership. Drop them both.

I think given the injuries then a move to a back 3 with wing backs would be the better idea.

Bring in Benkovic and Bamba to sit in with Morrison.

Bring Bacuna into the middle with Vaulks

Play Hoilett and Ojo Wide

Put Wilson as the playmaker in the centre

Partner Glatzel with Murphy up front

3412 formation allows us to get out best defenders and attacking players on the pitch. It so makes it easy to adjust formations if required without using a sub.

Smithies

Morrison
Benkovic
Bamba

Ojo
Bacuna
Vaulks
Hoilett

Wilson
Glatzel
Murphy

Not sure how much pace Benko has but that’s a lack of pace at the back.

Putting a lot on Ojo and Hoilett defensively when they aren’t really defensively sound.

We can still get outnumbered in midfield.

If played right then no need to get outnumbered. What would you do stick 6 midfielders in and no strikers. If players work hard and to the job asked of them properly then we wouldn't get outnumbered.

If the defensive midfielders do the job properly then there would be little need for Hoett and Ojo to have a lot of defensive duties and cod concentrate on offensive duties.
If we actually played with the ball instead of long balls and throws all the time we would have players in position to control the game rather than chase the ball all the time.

How can you say its a lack of pace when you admit yourself you do not know the player ?

Because Morrison and Bamba are not pacy.

Are they any slower than most centre backs in this league ?
Its not exactly a position that pace is a must, in fact most of the best centre backs to have evernplayed the game were not blessed with pace. Its about being quick minded and to be able to read the game more than quick footed. Positional noise is a better quality than pace for a centre back

Not convinced they will have that.

I like the thought of three at the back. It worked really well against Southampton away in the premier league.

Sadly I don’t think we have the players to play it effectively now.

I do want Benkovic to have a game though.

tomasblue I am all for opinions that’s what makes football message boards like this one interesting to say the least but have to ask do you watch the City in 45 years of watching us play Murphy is up there with one if the most gutless players I have ever seen and as for wasting 11 Million your right but we would be lucky to get someone to take him off our wage bill never mind paying a fee. Don’t take offence but as mentioned it’s all about opinions your support certainly never wavers fair play.

When the chips are down you need people in the trenches and still somebody wants to play Murphy you couldn’t make it up.

He would flourish as a striker

His movement and goal record suggest he has everything needed to play up front. Even though he has struggled with little consistent game time he is still the best "winger" at the club.

What do you think we should do with a £11million pound player ?

Just let him rot in the stands until his contract is up ?

Absolutely no bottle in him I’m afraid but we are so thin on the ground I’d be tempted to play him at 10 on Wednesday.

Definitely not Wilson has to start as our No10 he’s wasted out on the right.

What is the issue Harris has with Murphy?

As a leader Harris should lead and inspire.

Get Murphy on the pitch.

That’s Harris and Warnock that failed then. Klop would struggle to inspire him.

tomasblue I am all for opinions that’s what makes football message boards like this one interesting to say the least but have to ask do you watch the City in 45 years of watching us play Murphy is up there with one if the most gutless players I have ever seen and as for wasting 11 Million your right but we would be lucky to get someone to take him off our wage bill never mind paying a fee. Don’t take offence but as mentioned it’s all about opinions your support certainly never wavers fair play.

There have been loads of players over the years who never found there true position until later in the career.
Gareth bale started as a left back
Thierry Henry on the wing
Patterson at right back
Josh Maggenis was a keeper

Murphy has all the attributes to be a very good striker at this level, his game is let down by his defensive capabilities and attitude towards being asked to carry them out. Take that away from him and he could thrive as a second striker especially running off Moore or Glatzel.
He was our joint top scorer last season on 8 goals playing out wide and less games than our strikers.
Could he do any worse than what we have at the moment ?
It's definitely worth a shot in my opinion. He needs a manager to take the shackles off and let him play. There is no doubt we have a very talented player

Indeed. He's too attack minded for safety first NH

tomasblue I am all for opinions that’s what makes football message boards like this one interesting to say the least but have to ask do you watch the City in 45 years of watching us play Murphy is up there with one if the most gutless players I have ever seen and as for wasting 11 Million your right but we would be lucky to get someone to take him off our wage bill never mind paying a fee. Don’t take offence but as mentioned it’s all about opinions your support certainly never wavers fair play.

There have been loads of players over the years who never found there true position until later in the career.
Gareth bale started as a left back
Thierry Henry on the wing
Patterson at right back
Josh Maggenis was a keeper

Murphy has all the attributes to be a very good striker at this level, his game is let down by his defensive capabilities and attitude towards being asked to carry them out. Take that away from him and he could thrive as a second striker especially running off Moore or Glatzel.
He was our joint top scorer last season on 8 goals playing out wide and less games than our strikers.
Could he do any worse than what we have at the moment ?
It's definitely worth a shot in my opinion. He needs a manager to take the shackles off and let him play. There is no doubt we have a very talented player

I’d love Murphy in Harris’ spot but would be do the running Harris has?

tomasblue I am all for opinions that’s what makes football message boards like this one interesting to say the least but have to ask do you watch the City in 45 years of watching us play Murphy is up there with one if the most gutless players I have ever seen and as for wasting 11 Million your right but we would be lucky to get someone to take him off our wage bill never mind paying a fee. Don’t take offence but as mentioned it’s all about opinions your support certainly never wavers fair play.

There have been loads of players over the years who never found there true position until later in the career.
Gareth bale started as a left back
Thierry Henry on the wing
Patterson at right back
Josh Maggenis was a keeper

Murphy has all the attributes to be a very good striker at this level, his game is let down by his defensive capabilities and attitude towards being asked to carry them out. Take that away from him and he could thrive as a second striker especially running off Moore or Glatzel.
He was our joint top scorer last season on 8 goals playing out wide and less games than our strikers.
Could he do any worse than what we have at the moment ?
It's definitely worth a shot in my opinion. He needs a manager to take the shackles off and let him play. There is no doubt we have a very talented player

I’d love Murphy in Harris’ spot but would be do the running Harris has?

I like Harris work rate but other than his first game he has shown very little quality to play permanently at this level at the moment. He's very raw and needs time to progress.

If Murphy did not do the running he would have no arguements at being left out again and his career here would be done

Murphy needs to start, he did what he needed to do in the premier league and i think he thought he did enough to be transferred to another club. We don't know what has gone on behind the scenes either.

He is a forward who will do a bit of defending. Unfortunately for Josh he has had two very demanding "no risk" defensive coaches.

He should be talked about in the same breath as Wilson in talent terms, there is obviously lacking Wilsons desire and work ethic which is pretty poor but I don't think folk like us can every understand the likes of Darcy Blake, it takes all sorts.

Be interesting to see what he could do up front in a 442, but as a wide midfielder in a 442, no.
Funnily enough i think that is Whytes position, he is not a 433 or 4231 wide forward but as a right winger in a 442 i think he could do a job.

Wilson No.10

Murphy on.

Front foot.

Issue 1 Is That Tutu Is Injured
So There Is No Replacement

Benkovic May Still Be Unfit
And Wilson Should Stick To The Wing Alongside Ojo

I just think its Swansea that were up for the game more so than us so in some games teams will not be as threatening such as Wycombe Birmingham And Rotherham.

Not time to mess with my Tutu

Benkovic fit but maybe not up to game speed?

Wilson needs to be brought inside as a No.10 with Ojo going out to the wing and staying there

Swansea were set 'up' for the game after 6 minutes when they went 1-0 ahead and the Bluebirds offered little to test their decent defence

Hsrris stated himself a few weeks back,thay he was fit & up to speed,and ready if called on! Then he eas unwell last week.
But I have been saying same for a while now,we need bacuna back in midfield,push nelson to right back,glatzel should start,even if moore is ok,he looks tired,so rest him,rather than burn him out? And if ready benkovic in the dm posistion.or even give bagan another shot.but it needs freshening up,on that I think we can all agree?

Issue 1 Is That Tutu Is Injured
So There Is No Replacement

Benkovic May Still Be Unfit
And Wilson Should Stick To The Wing Alongside Ojo

I just think its Swansea that were up for the game more so than us so in some games teams will not be as threatening such as Wycombe Birmingham And Rotherham.

Not time to mess with my Tutu

Benkovic fit but maybe not up to game speed?

Wilson needs to be brought inside as a No.10 with Ojo going out to the wing and staying there

Swansea were set 'up' for the game after 6 minutes when they went 1-0 ahead and the Bluebirds offered little to test their decent defence

Hsrris stated himself a few weeks back,thay he was fit & up to speed,and ready if called on! Then he eas unwell last week.
But I have been saying same for a while now,we need bacuna back in midfield,push nelson to right back,glatzel should start,even if moore is ok,he looks tired,so rest him,rather than burn him out? And if ready benkovic in the dm posistion.or even give bagan another shot.but it needs freshening up,on that I think we can all agree?

Not sure why you think it's a good idea to put a left footed centre back at right back

Would make more sense to use Bennett , Cunningham or Bagan . At least full back is the true position