Breaking NO Fans returning to Cardiff, Swansea, Newport

When will the valley dickheads stop voting Labour we need to get Dripford out but no chance they will vote for sheep if they support Labour.

Here's an odd thing Shrewsbury Town are having 2000 fans in for their match against Accrington Stanley tonight but will make no money from it as they are all season ticket holders who have paid for their tickets. In fact with stewarding costs it will cost them more to let fans into the ground than have it empty. Not allowed to sell drinks either because of lockdown.

The only reason Wales went in to a two week fire break when we did was because the labour leader captain hindsight kept going on about a two week fire break to score political points , we should he done it the same time as England ,there numbers are dropping Wales are going up ,every politician should have kept politics out of this because this is what you get.

We do appear to be doing the opposite to rest uk even more so now than we have done previously! Thought the devolved governments were going to sing from same hymn sheet about xmas ? But looks like Wales the land of song cant read hymn sheet.

It's the behaviour of the people of Wales, not the Government of Wales which is causing the virus to increase. Also, when Wales wanted to do the fire break the UK Government initially refused to provide the financial backing for us to do it. Then, all of a sudden the English were spooked by their dramatically rising numbers and decided to go for a full month lockdown. And guess what? They suddenly found the money to do it with. UK Government is shit. They paid ten billion pounds over the odds for PPE because they weren't prepared for a pandemic. It's their f*cking job to be prepared for a pandemic! But because we had hardly anything in stock we were held to ransom by whoever, around the world, was manufacturing the stuff and paid £12 billion instead of around £2 billion!!! Useless bunch.

Did you know WG health uses different method of counting covid from nso now why? Had lockdown 17days and as soon as it was over rates came down but drakeford then says need tighter controls before xmas why when rates had come down..... and don't you think more positive tests could just be because more people are being tested and asymptomatic people are being
picked up when before they wasnt. Due to extra testing? (80%) people are asymptomatic.....so rather than blaming it on drunken revellers why not put it down to more testing...

its convenient to have an imaginary group to blame Allan... havent seen much in the way of drunken revellers but seen plenty of shops and shopping centres extremely busy.. blokes delivering to a hundred plus houses a day etc...

Multiple families allowed to visit over xmas, tens of thousands of people visiting our shopping centres.
Yet 2000 fans spaced out in a 30k stadium not allowed.
Just remember where to place your vote at the next elections for the assembly.

Where's that then? Next to the labour candidate or next to the tory candidate who's English equivalent has put half the country in tier 3 and so wont have fans either.

Youve missed point what is the more likely to spread covid 2k in 35k stadium sitting outside with controls in place or thousands of people inside shops with only control in how many go in but no control over keeping people 6ft apart ?

I haven't missed the point at all. Fred's implication was that fans would be allowed if we didnt have a Labour led administration. I pointed out that there's no guarantee that a conservative led Welsh government would be allowing fans in.

Multiple families allowed to visit over xmas, tens of thousands of people visiting our shopping centres.
Yet 2000 fans spaced out in a 30k stadium not allowed.
Just remember where to place your vote at the next elections for the assembly.

Where's that then? Next to the labour candidate or next to the tory candidate who's English equivalent has put half the country in tier 3 and so wont have fans either.

Youve missed point what is the more likely to spread covid 2k in 35k stadium sitting outside with controls in place or thousands of people inside shops with only control in how many go in but no control over keeping people 6ft apart ?

I haven't missed the point at all. Fred's implication was that fans would be allowed if we didnt have a Labour led administration. I pointed out that there's no guarantee that a conservative led Welsh government would be allowing fans in.

May have implied conservatives would allow fans in ..... but doesn't alter fact that he allows crowds into confined areas by their thousands
( st davids centre ect ) yet doesn't allow limited crowd into an open space under far more control and restrictions than are applied in shopping centres... but depends on point of view I suppose.

Multiple families allowed to visit over xmas, tens of thousands of people visiting our shopping centres.
Yet 2000 fans spaced out in a 30k stadium not allowed.
Just remember where to place your vote at the next elections for the assembly.

Where's that then? Next to the labour candidate or next to the tory candidate who's English equivalent has put half the country in tier 3 and so wont have fans either.

Youve missed point what is the more likely to spread covid 2k in 35k stadium sitting outside with controls in place or thousands of people inside shops with only control in how many go in but no control over keeping people 6ft apart ?

I haven't missed the point at all. Fred's implication was that fans would be allowed if we didnt have a Labour led administration. I pointed out that there's no guarantee that a conservative led Welsh government would be allowing fans in.

May have implied conservatives would allow fans in ..... but doesn't alter fact that he allows crowds into confined areas by their thousands
( st davids centre ect ) yet doesn't allow limited crowd into an open space under far more control and restrictions than are applied in shopping centres... but depends on point of view I suppose.

Think it would be a fair assumption if conservatives in power in Wales it would go with Westminster if only because labour WG sppears to constantly go against conservative plans/ restrictions since start of pandemic! People would be naive to think a lot of WG opposition to boris covid plans are at times not politically motivated.

Multiple families allowed to visit over xmas, tens of thousands of people visiting our shopping centres.
Yet 2000 fans spaced out in a 30k stadium not allowed.
Just remember where to place your vote at the next elections for the assembly.

Where's that then? Next to the labour candidate or next to the tory candidate who's English equivalent has put half the country in tier 3 and so wont have fans either.

Youve missed point what is the more likely to spread covid 2k in 35k stadium sitting outside with controls in place or thousands of people inside shops with only control in how many go in but no control over keeping people 6ft apart ?

I haven't missed the point at all. Fred's implication was that fans would be allowed if we didnt have a Labour led administration. I pointed out that there's no guarantee that a conservative led Welsh government would be allowing fans in.

May have implied conservatives would allow fans in ..... but doesn't alter fact that he allows crowds into confined areas by their thousands
( st davids centre ect ) yet doesn't allow limited crowd into an open space under far more control and restrictions than are applied in shopping centres... but depends on point of view I suppose.

I think we just picked up on different parts of the post.
Theres contradictions all over the place as has been pointed out many times. I dont understand all the reasons behind the various openings and closings either. I'm not sure those making such decisions keep fully up to date either.

I am pleased though that, as Liverpool is moving back to tier 2, Marine FC could be allowed some fans for their game v Spurs

Under the differing rules in Wales and England, some of Cardiff and Swansea's Championship rivals will be able to stage home games with fans, albeit in modest numbers. The same goes for Newport County and Wrexham in their respective leagues.

Under the differing rules in Wales and England, some of Cardiff and Swansea's Championship rivals will be able to stage home games with fans, albeit in modest numbers. The same goes for Newport County and Wrexham in their respective leagues.

This shows the total inflexibility of WAG (nee Drakeford) even in the face of alternative evidence

For any of the Welsh clubs to be treated 'differently' to their English competitors is disappointing but sadly understandable, given WAG's negative approach to COVID-19

We'll be back one day...just not as soon as we'd have liked

Under the differing rules in Wales and England, some of Cardiff and Swansea's Championship rivals will be able to stage home games with fans, albeit in modest numbers. The same goes for Newport County and Wrexham in their respective leagues.

This shows the total inflexibility of WAG (nee Drakeford) even in the face of alternative evidence

For any of the Welsh clubs to be treated 'differently' to their English competitors is disappointing but sadly understandable, given WAG's negative approach to COVID-19

We'll be back one day...just not as soon as we'd have liked

Chris if you look at post I did in covid you can see how drakeford is doing things because he can without thought for others just like m4 hes ignoring the obvious things so can feed his ego trip as a man who as the power to do what he likes.

The only reason Wales went in to a two week fire break when we did was because the labour leader captain hindsight kept going on about a two week fire break to score political points , we should he done it the same time as England ,there numbers are dropping Wales are going up ,every politician should have kept politics out of this because this is what you get.

We do appear to be doing the opposite to rest uk even more so now than we have done previously! Thought the devolved governments were going to sing from same hymn sheet about xmas ? But looks like Wales the land of song cant read hymn sheet.

It's the behaviour of the people of Wales, not the Government of Wales which is causing the virus to increase. Also, when Wales wanted to do the fire break the UK Government initially refused to provide the financial backing for us to do it. Then, all of a sudden the English were spooked by their dramatically rising numbers and decided to go for a full month lockdown. And guess what? They suddenly found the money to do it with. UK Government is shit. They paid ten billion pounds over the odds for PPE because they weren't prepared for a pandemic. It's their f*cking job to be prepared for a pandemic! But because we had hardly anything in stock we were held to ransom by whoever, around the world, was manufacturing the stuff and paid £12 billion instead of around £2 billion!!! Useless bunch.

Spot on moonboots. Rules only evolving as too many intent on not taking sensible steps. All UK governments are losing the basic message with their ever changing dos and donts.

Spread of virus dependant on two factors, density of population and density of population.