Transfer Committee

Well the committee really made a balls up with this seasons signings didnt they?

Yep
3 of our 4 top scorers this year were signedast transfer window

Not sure what's going on with this board but all getting is snipping and digs at club/owner it's like open season ! They've done good and bad same as all clubs with committees? Rather than blame them why not blame managers who sighn players like vessels! committee only facilitate buying players the manager wants...

Totally agree mate

When the board do something wrong by all means say something but they've done a great job last few years, verdict is out on the Harris appointment but other than that they are doing a good job. Blaming them for a signing that was signed by a guy with over 50 years experience in the game then saying its Tans fault because he's not a football man is just wrong

not only this its this yes man crap biggest yes man was Mackay for saying nothing about red? But hes the darling of people yet slade ect are ridiculed for doing things 99% of managers do at other clubs in same situation.... lots sheep on here that's for sure.

Wrong Allan Red fan, Malky was brought here to manage a team not to get involved in the politics side .
As you read what I said the other day, I chatted to Malky about the colour quite strongly and he stated his job was to get his players to win games .
It was up to our fans to stand up for our identity, but we won’t go in to that again as to this day I can’t stand those that accepted the despicable red

Then how can any manager be called a yes man?

They are all here to manage the team not get involved in politics.

Slade, Trollope, Harris. never had the backbone like Malky or Warnock and were def YES men without a doubt.

In what way Annis?

Did they not just manage the team and stay out of the politics like Malky? How does that make them yes men and Malky not?

Slade had to manage the team which involved sorting out the mess Ole and Malky left. That was his brief.

They were all told to sell sell and told virtually no money to strengthen.

If our committee are so good after 11 years


How is the Accademy U18’s and U23’23’s nowadays ? Are they doing well 11 yrs later and where is our first team 11 yrs later in the league?

Answer straight and honestly

Well the committee really made a balls up with this seasons signings didnt they?

Yep
3 of our 4 top scorers this year were signedast transfer window

Not sure what's going on with this board but all getting is snipping and digs at club/owner it's like open season ! They've done good and bad same as all clubs with committees? Rather than blame them why not blame managers who sighn players like vessels! committee only facilitate buying players the manager wants...

Totally agree mate

When the board do something wrong by all means say something but they've done a great job last few years, verdict is out on the Harris appointment but other than that they are doing a good job. Blaming them for a signing that was signed by a guy with over 50 years experience in the game then saying its Tans fault because he's not a football man is just wrong

not only this its this yes man crap biggest yes man was Mackay for saying nothing about red? But hes the darling of people yet slade ect are ridiculed for doing things 99% of managers do at other clubs in same situation.... lots sheep on here that's for sure.

Wrong Allan Red fan, Malky was brought here to manage a team not to get involved in the politics side .
As you read what I said the other day, I chatted to Malky about the colour quite strongly and he stated his job was to get his players to win games .
It was up to our fans to stand up for our identity, but we won’t go in to that again as to this day I can’t stand those that accepted the despicable red

Then how can any manager be called a yes man?

They are all here to manage the team not get involved in politics.

Slade, Trollope, Harris. never had the backbone like Malky or Warnock and were def YES men without a doubt.

In what way Annis?

Did they not just manage the team and stay out of the politics like Malky? How does that make them yes men and Malky not?

Slade had to manage the team which involved sorting out the mess Ole and Malky left. That was his brief.

They were all told to sell sell and told virtually no money to strengthen.

If our committee are so good after 11 years


How is the Accademy U18’s and U23’23’s nowadays ? Are they doing well 11 yrs later and where is our first team 11 yrs later in the league?

Answer straight and honestly

How does that make them yes men?? Selling players was a result of the mismanagement by the two previous managers to Slade. Also a change in tack by Tan who was looking to make the club self reliant after changing us back to blue.

The under 18s and under 23s have been poor for ages. When was the last player we developed for the first team who played more than 20 games? Does the committee oversee the academies?

In the last 11 years we have had more success than the previous 11 or even 22 or 33 years. That was all under the current owner. That is a fact.

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Well the committee really made a balls up with this seasons signings didnt they?

Yep
3 of our 4 top scorers this year were signedast transfer window

Not sure what's going on with this board but all getting is snipping and digs at club/owner it's like open season ! They've done good and bad same as all clubs with committees? Rather than blame them why not blame managers who sighn players like vessels! committee only facilitate buying players the manager wants...

Totally agree mate

When the board do something wrong by all means say something but they've done a great job last few years, verdict is out on the Harris appointment but other than that they are doing a good job. Blaming them for a signing that was signed by a guy with over 50 years experience in the game then saying its Tans fault because he's not a football man is just wrong

not only this its this yes man crap biggest yes man was Mackay for saying nothing about red? But hes the darling of people yet slade ect are ridiculed for doing things 99% of managers do at other clubs in same situation.... lots sheep on here that's for sure.

Wrong Allan Red fan, Malky was brought here to manage a team not to get involved in the politics side .
As you read what I said the other day, I chatted to Malky about the colour quite strongly and he stated his job was to get his players to win games .
It was up to our fans to stand up for our identity, but we won’t go in to that again as to this day I can’t stand those that accepted the despicable red

Isnt that funny slade ect ect brought in as yes men but the man in charge ar time of rebrand was brought in soley to manage team? Guess people you've employed when given a directive always say no to you as not to be classed as yes people!
As for calling me red fan..mmmm treat it with the contempt it deserves


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Well the committee really made a balls up with this seasons signings didnt they?

Yep
3 of our 4 top scorers this year were signedast transfer window

Not sure what's going on with this board but all getting is snipping and digs at club/owner it's like open season ! They've done good and bad same as all clubs with committees? Rather than blame them why not blame managers who sighn players like vessels! committee only facilitate buying players the manager wants...

Totally agree mate

When the board do something wrong by all means say something but they've done a great job last few years, verdict is out on the Harris appointment but other than that they are doing a good job. Blaming them for a signing that was signed by a guy with over 50 years experience in the game then saying its Tans fault because he's not a football man is just wrong

not only this its this yes man crap biggest yes man was Mackay for saying nothing about red? But hes the darling of people yet slade ect are ridiculed for doing things 99% of managers do at other clubs in same situation.... lots sheep on here that's for sure.

Wrong Allan Red fan, Malky was brought here to manage a team not to get involved in the politics side .
As you read what I said the other day, I chatted to Malky about the colour quite strongly and he stated his job was to get his players to win games .
It was up to our fans to stand up for our identity, but we won’t go in to that again as to this day I can’t stand those that accepted the despicable red

Isnt that funny slade ect ect brought in as yes men but the man in charge ar time of rebrand was brought in soley to manage team? Guess people you've employed when given a directive always say no to you as not to be classed as yes people!
As for calling me red fan..mmmm treat it with the contempt it deserves
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Wow Red bird thats funny

Two months ago you said you were never coming back on the forum again

Also you would never get involved in my posts, you just cant stick to anything

Whats the rebrand got to do with managing the actual team that plays on the pitch., please explain Allan in full???

Well the committee really made a balls up with this seasons signings didnt they?

Yep
3 of our 4 top scorers this year were signedast transfer window

Not sure what's going on with this board but all getting is snipping and digs at club/owner it's like open season ! They've done good and bad same as all clubs with committees? Rather than blame them why not blame managers who sighn players like vessels! committee only facilitate buying players the manager wants...

Totally agree mate

When the board do something wrong by all means say something but they've done a great job last few years, verdict is out on the Harris appointment but other than that they are doing a good job. Blaming them for a signing that was signed by a guy with over 50 years experience in the game then saying its Tans fault because he's not a football man is just wrong

not only this its this yes man crap biggest yes man was Mackay for saying nothing about red? But hes the darling of people yet slade ect are ridiculed for doing things 99% of managers do at other clubs in same situation.... lots sheep on here that's for sure.

Wrong Allan Red fan, Malky was brought here to manage a team not to get involved in the politics side .
As you read what I said the other day, I chatted to Malky about the colour quite strongly and he stated his job was to get his players to win games .
It was up to our fans to stand up for our identity, but we won’t go in to that again as to this day I can’t stand those that accepted the despicable red

Isnt that funny slade ect ect brought in as yes men but the man in charge ar time of rebrand was brought in soley to manage team? Guess people you've employed when given a directive always say no to you as not to be classed as yes people!
As for calling me red fan..mmmm treat it with the contempt it deserves
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Wow Red bird thats funny

Two months ago you said you were never coming back on the forum again

Also you would never get involved in my posts, you just cant stick to anything

Whats the rebrand got to do with managing the actual team that plays on the pitch., please explain Allan in full???

Same way that Slade is a yes man because he trimmed the squad.

Same way that Harris is a yes man because he is trimming the squad.

@Thomas blue you’re talking nonsense son.

The board are businessmen first and foremost, Dalman is a slimy investment banker, his only aim is a potential return on any signings. We don’t have a clear plan or strategy when it comes to recruitment.

Decisions are made at the very last minute with an extremely short term View. Eg funds being released for Harry Wilson Late in the day.

This is reflected in the structure of the club: we only have two scouts and no director of football. Therefore decisions are made on the hop and/or relying on a network of agents rather than say Brentford who have an international recruitment team. It’s no coincidence we don’t ever unearth Gems from Europe. (Camerasa was an accidentally loan after we played Betis in a friendly)

Warnock is the prime example of this. We only bought Flint as he wanted to be near to Bristol as he’s building a house, we bought Pack late in the day as he commutes from Bristol after Bristol signed a replacement.

We have a board who ask VT for funds, there’s no
Footballing insight driving the decision. It’s extremely haphazard and short termist

@Thomas blue you’re talking nonsense son.

The board are businessmen first and foremost, Dalman is a slimy investment banker, his only aim is a potential return on any signings. We don’t have a clear plan or strategy when it comes to recruitment.

Decisions are made at the very last minute with an extremely short term View. Eg funds being released for Harry Wilson Late in the day.

This is reflected in the structure of the club: we only have two scouts and no director of football. Therefore decisions are made on the hop and/or relying on a network of agents rather than say Brentford who have an international recruitment team. It’s no coincidence we don’t ever unearth Gems from Europe. (Camerasa was an accidentally loan after we played Betis in a friendly)

Warnock is the prime example of this. We only bought Flint as he wanted to be near to Bristol as he’s building a house, we bought Pack late in the day as he commutes from Bristol after Bristol signed a replacement.

We have a board who ask VT for funds, there’s no
Footballing insight driving the decision. It’s extremely haphazard and short termist

At last some sense / Well said and the truth hurts

@Thomas blue you’re talking nonsense son.

The board are businessmen first and foremost, Dalman is a slimy investment banker, his only aim is a potential return on any signings. We don’t have a clear plan or strategy when it comes to recruitment.

Decisions are made at the very last minute with an extremely short term View. Eg funds being released for Harry Wilson Late in the day.

This is reflected in the structure of the club: we only have two scouts and no director of football. Therefore decisions are made on the hop and/or relying on a network of agents rather than say Brentford who have an international recruitment team. It’s no coincidence we don’t ever unearth Gems from Europe. (Camerasa was an accidentally loan after we played Betis in a friendly)

Warnock is the prime example of this. We only bought Flint as he wanted to be near to Bristol as he’s building a house, we bought Pack late in the day as he commutes from Bristol after Bristol signed a replacement.

We have a board who ask VT for funds, there’s no
Footballing insight driving the decision. It’s extremely haphazard and short termist

That could be true but when has it been different?

It’s a continuation of issues at the club that have existed for years. We bought both Gavin Gordon and David Hughes after they had good games against us. Alongside that was a purchase of Danny Gabbiadon who did a job for years for us but that’s an exception not the rule.

The only time we have actually been effective in the transfer market is under DJ. He bought cheap and sold for a profit more often that not.

Prior to that we had no money to spend at all.

@Thomas blue you’re talking nonsense son.

The board are businessmen first and foremost, Dalman is a slimy investment banker, his only aim is a potential return on any signings. We don’t have a clear plan or strategy when it comes to recruitment.

Decisions are made at the very last minute with an extremely short term View. Eg funds being released for Harry Wilson Late in the day.

This is reflected in the structure of the club: we only have two scouts and no director of football. Therefore decisions are made on the hop and/or relying on a network of agents rather than say Brentford who have an international recruitment team. It’s no coincidence we don’t ever unearth Gems from Europe. (Camerasa was an accidentally loan after we played Betis in a friendly)

Warnock is the prime example of this. We only bought Flint as he wanted to be near to Bristol as he’s building a house, we bought Pack late in the day as he commutes from Bristol after Bristol signed a replacement.

We have a board who ask VT for funds, there’s no
Footballing insight driving the decision. It’s extremely haphazard and short termist

What a load of rubbish
Just another Tan hating poster saying loads of words and accusations with no proof to back any of it up

Answer some of these from your silly reply.

How do you know we only have 2 scouts ? You don't

How many clubs have a director of football ? Not many

How many times have the apparently brilliantly run Brentford been promoted ? None

How do you know transfer decisions are made last minute ? You don't

How do you know camarasa was accidental ? You don't

Why would we buy a player for £6million just to help him move house ? Laughable

We only signed Pack because he lived close bye ? Strange

What team in the country does not ask its owner for funds to buy transfers ?

You wrote a load of words and said absolutely nothing of note other than a load of made up nonsense you can't prove. Come back when you can back it up SON.

As for the truth hurts , it must do as when anti tan posts are proven incorrect and challenged certain people go quiet .

@Thomas blue you’re talking nonsense son.

The board are businessmen first and foremost, Dalman is a slimy investment banker, his only aim is a potential return on any signings. We don’t have a clear plan or strategy when it comes to recruitment.

Decisions are made at the very last minute with an extremely short term View. Eg funds being released for Harry Wilson Late in the day.

This is reflected in the structure of the club: we only have two scouts and no director of football. Therefore decisions are made on the hop and/or relying on a network of agents rather than say Brentford who have an international recruitment team. It’s no coincidence we don’t ever unearth Gems from Europe. (Camerasa was an accidentally loan after we played Betis in a friendly)

Warnock is the prime example of this. We only bought Flint as he wanted to be near to Bristol as he’s building a house, we bought Pack late in the day as he commutes from Bristol after Bristol signed a replacement.

We have a board who ask VT for funds, there’s no
Footballing insight driving the decision. It’s extremely haphazard and short termist

What a load of rubbish
Just another Tan hating poster saying loads of words and accusations with no proof to back any of it up

Answer some of these from your silly reply.

How do you know we only have 2 scouts ? You don't

How many clubs have a director of football ? Not many

How many times have the apparently brilliantly run Brentford been promoted ? None

How do you know transfer decisions are made last minute ? You don't

How do you know camarasa was accidental ? You don't

Why would we buy a player for £6million just to help him move house ? Laughable

We only signed Pack because he lived close bye ? Strange

What team in the country does not ask its owner for funds to buy transfers ?

You wrote a load of words and said absolutely nothing of note other than a load of made up nonsense you can't prove. Come back when you can back it up SON.

As for the truth hurts , it must do as when anti tan posts are proven incorrect and challenged certain people go quiet .

Mate, your giving it away even more, your bosses will not be happy with you, you have lost the plot

@Thomas blue you’re talking nonsense son.

The board are businessmen first and foremost, Dalman is a slimy investment banker, his only aim is a potential return on any signings. We don’t have a clear plan or strategy when it comes to recruitment.

Decisions are made at the very last minute with an extremely short term View. Eg funds being released for Harry Wilson Late in the day.

This is reflected in the structure of the club: we only have two scouts and no director of football. Therefore decisions are made on the hop and/or relying on a network of agents rather than say Brentford who have an international recruitment team. It’s no coincidence we don’t ever unearth Gems from Europe. (Camerasa was an accidentally loan after we played Betis in a friendly)

Warnock is the prime example of this. We only bought Flint as he wanted to be near to Bristol as he’s building a house, we bought Pack late in the day as he commutes from Bristol after Bristol signed a replacement.

We have a board who ask VT for funds, there’s no
Footballing insight driving the decision. It’s extremely haphazard and short termist

What a load of rubbish
Just another Tan hating poster saying loads of words and accusations with no proof to back any of it up

Answer some of these from your silly reply.

How do you know we only have 2 scouts ? You don't

How many clubs have a director of football ? Not many

How many times have the apparently brilliantly run Brentford been promoted ? None

How do you know transfer decisions are made last minute ? You don't

How do you know camarasa was accidental ? You don't

Why would we buy a player for £6million just to help him move house ? Laughable

We only signed Pack because he lived close bye ? Strange

What team in the country does not ask its owner for funds to buy transfers ?

You wrote a load of words and said absolutely nothing of note other than a load of made up nonsense you can't prove. Come back when you can back it up SON.

As for the truth hurts , it must do as when anti tan posts are proven incorrect and challenged certain people go quiet .

Mate, your giving it away even more, your bosses will not be happy with you, you have lost the plot

Lost the plot with what?
I only asked him to justify his comments with some proof

My comments on this subject are backed up with Fact

Thomas blue....you say that Not Football men does not wash anymore......what is it with you its my opinion and the opinion of others ...respect opinions
They are business men ...they are not football men through and through ...if they were where were they before 2010..2013 -14
You rant on about Tan bashing...i have said and agreed he saved our club...but i have not bashed him.... i have just said that in MY opinion he is not a Football man.
A football man would not have tried to change our identity.. but he tried
in MY opinion he is a Rich man who wants to meddle in the club s playing side....i understand some of the signings have been on his say so ..Annis can verify this
its your opinion he is and the committee are football men ..fine your opinion..i repect that

But you seem to have the "Everyone is entitled to my opinion attitude" lighten up













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Thomas blue....you say that Not Football men does not wash anymore......what is it with you its my opinion and the opinion of others ...respect opinions
They are business men ...they are not football men through and through ...if they were where were they before 2010..2013 -14
You rant on about Tan bashing...i have said and agreed he saved our club...but i have not bashed him.... i have just said that in MY opinion he is not a Football man.
A football man would not have tried to change our identity.. but he tried
in MY opinion he is a Rich man who wants to meddle in the club s playing side....i understand some of the signings have been on his say so ..Annis can verify this
its your opinion he is and the committee are football men ..fine your opinion..i repect that

But you seem to have the "Everyone is entitled to my opinion attitude" lighten up


Which signings have been on Tan’s say so?









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Thomas blue....you say that Not Football men does not wash anymore......what is it with you its my opinion and the opinion of others ...respect opinions
They are business men ...they are not football men through and through ...if they were where were they before 2010..2013 -14
You rant on about Tan bashing...i have said and agreed he saved our club...but i have not bashed him.... i have just said that in MY opinion he is not a Football man.
A football man would not have tried to change our identity.. but he tried
in MY opinion he is a Rich man who wants to meddle in the club s playing side....i understand some of the signings have been on his say so ..Annis can verify this
its your opinion he is and the committee are football men ..fine your opinion..i repect that

But you seem to have the "Everyone is entitled to my opinion attitude" lighten up













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Which signings have been on Tan’s say so?

There was talk Zohore was. What a tw*t he is for that one.

Thomas blue....you say that Not Football men does not wash anymore......what is it with you its my opinion and the opinion of others ...respect opinions
They are business men ...they are not football men through and through ...if they were where were they before 2010..2013 -14
You rant on about Tan bashing...i have said and agreed he saved our club...but i have not bashed him.... i have just said that in MY opinion he is not a Football man.
A football man would not have tried to change our identity.. but he tried
in MY opinion he is a Rich man who wants to meddle in the club s playing side....i understand some of the signings have been on his say so ..Annis can verify this
its your opinion he is and the committee are football men ..fine your opinion..i repect that

But you seem to have the "Everyone is entitled to my opinion attitude" lighten up













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I wasn't replying to you but since you mentioned it aswell . Can you show me any proof whatsoever that Tan has meddled in team affairs or personal signed a player without the managers approval ?

And I dont mean what you read on here, actually proof.

Thomas Blue;

Replying to a few of your points as it’s tiresome.

Re scouts: we have the ex Swansea scout Tim Henderson who works overseas. Then there’s a first team scout Chris Finn and I believe another ex Swansea scout.

Re: Director of football, no not every club has one. The top
Three currently have either a sporting director, director of football or a technical director. These are linked to extensive recruitment teams.

Re: Brentford success, no they haven’t gone up yet. They challenge every year playing attractive football with an extremely attractive balance sheet (£25m net this season from transfers) Ivan Toney already looks a snip.

Re: Flint, we didn’t pay for his house he’s building one south of Bristol, it’s well known he wanted out of Middlesbrough. Point being it wasn’t scouting or the transfer committee who pulled it off, purely coincidental.

Re: Pack typifies what I’ve heard off many who know more than me, that Warnock operates sporadically in recruitment. Often ringing clubs up randomly asking about a player.

Re: VT ‘hate’ Apart from the colour change I think
It’s Unbelievable what he’s done for the club, particularly the debt to equity.

However the statement that the transfer committee works and is successful is nonsense. They either take too much Control like Harris or Slade... or they give free reign like ole and the results are equally as bad.

Like a successful business, the club needs structure with the right knowledge and process in the right area. We don’t have that.

Maccydee...its what I have heard on here and i am sure Annis mentioned it and thats why I said perhaps Annis can verify it.

If everyone had proof of their opinions they wouldn t be opinions they would be facts.
what it is with ...where s your proof...i dont believe anyone on here has proof of most of the stuff that is churned out on here

Maccydee...its what I have heard on here and i am sure Annis mentioned it and thats why I said perhaps Annis can verify it.

If everyone had proof of their opinions they wouldn t be opinions they would be facts.
what it is with ...where s your proof...i dont believe anyone on here has proof of most of the stuff that is churned out on here

Kimble, fair shout

But i have seen stuff for myself and chatted with All board members many many times and including early this year, to two of them.

Maccydee...its what I have heard on here and i am sure Annis mentioned it and thats why I said perhaps Annis can verify it.

If everyone had proof of their opinions they wouldn t be opinions they would be facts.
what it is with ...where s your proof...i dont believe anyone on here has proof of most of the stuff that is churned out on here

Oh in that case then I’m sold. Especially as Annis is so neutral and unbiased when it comes to the subject of Tan.

The club, and therefore the committee, deserve a lot of credit for the success we have seen since Tan came in. But considering we have been promoted twice we should definitely be in a better position on and off the field. Should we really still owe Tan so much money? Especially as we didn't spend a lot during our last prem campaign. All well and good saying Tan deserves credit for converting debt to equity but it was his poor running of the club that run those debts up.

The worst thing the committee have done was giving ole an open chequebook. The benefits we received from our first promotion was completely undone by ole and his freedom to spend sill money. He set us back years which we are still feeling the effects of today.

The club, and therefore the committee, deserve a lot of credit for the success we have seen since Tan came in. But considering we have been promoted twice we should definitely be in a better position on and off the field. Should we really still owe Tan so much money? Especially as we didn't spend a lot during our last prem campaign. All well and good saying Tan deserves credit for converting debt to equity but it was his poor running of the club that run those debts up.

The worst thing the committee have done was giving ole an open chequebook. The benefits we received from our first promotion was completely undone by ole and his freedom to spend sill money. He set us back years which we are still feeling the effects of today.

Huge mistake letting Ole play football manager with our club. But let’s be honest had we reproduced that first half performance v Norwich more we could have gone back up and he might have stayed. Who knows what would have happened?

When discussing wastage of money Malky has to have an honourable mention. Blew a lot of dosh on poor or average players.

Maccydee...its what I have heard on here and i am sure Annis mentioned it and thats why I said perhaps Annis can verify it.

If everyone had proof of their opinions they wouldn t be opinions they would be facts.
what it is with ...where s your proof...i dont believe anyone on here has proof of most of the stuff that is churned out on here

Oh in that case then I’m sold. Especially as Annis is so neutral and unbiased when it comes to the subject of Tan.

Biased? just stating the truth end off

Maccydee...its what I have heard on here and i am sure Annis mentioned it and thats why I said perhaps Annis can verify it.

If everyone had proof of their opinions they wouldn t be opinions they would be facts.
what it is with ...where s your proof...i dont believe anyone on here has proof of most of the stuff that is churned out on here

Oh in that case then I’m sold. Especially as Annis is so neutral and unbiased when it comes to the subject of Tan.

Biased? just stating the truth end off

Not when it comes to Tan mate. No way.

You aren’t the only one. People are biased against Sam despite all that he did for us and won’t hear any good. They base everything on that week leading up to the Sheff Utd game and how bad things were and then anytime he is mentioned their negative perceptions shine through. They lived it like you did the Red and seeing Cardiff fans turn on each other.

It clouds your judgement but we have talked about that in great detail and it’s flogging a dead horse.

I think that’s where living away and being away from the bubble allows me to not be affected. I was in North Wales for the build up to Black Friday and missed it all really. Only saw it when I got back to Cardiff on the Friday and at that game couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Especially when Peter Thorne went off in the first half.

I was living in Cyprus for the rebrand so missed most of that so it didn’t affect me and therefore I don’t have the feeling some others have against Tan.

This thread is a complete joke just like the committee , difference is they actually waste millions

This thread is a complete joke just like the committee , difference is they actually waste millions

Football clubs always waste money. It’s why there are no self run clubs. At least the money ‘wasted’ is one person’s money and we aren’t being charged interest on it.

The club, and therefore the committee, deserve a lot of credit for the success we have seen since Tan came in. But considering we have been promoted twice we should definitely be in a better position on and off the field. Should we really still owe Tan so much money? Especially as we didn't spend a lot during our last prem campaign. All well and good saying Tan deserves credit for converting debt to equity but it was his poor running of the club that run those debts up.

The worst thing the committee have done was giving ole an open chequebook. The benefits we received from our first promotion was completely undone by ole and his freedom to spend sill money. He set us back years which we are still feeling the effects of today.

Huge mistake letting Ole play football manager with our club. But let’s be honest had we reproduced that first half performance v Norwich more we could have gone back up and he might have stayed. Who knows what would have happened?

When discussing wastage of money Malky has to have an honourable mention. Blew a lot of dosh on poor or average players.

But we didn't though did we. He was given plenty of time and was backed as well. He couldn't cut it in the prem or in the championship and I am amazed hes still in a job at United. Shit manager and wasted millions.

Regarding, malky, personally I think he would have kept us up. But we'll never know. Cornelius was a massive flop and we overpaid on him but he has gone on to do quite well and is valued more than what we paid for him.

You could say the same about warnock though as well. He essentially left us with a squad incapable of passing a football around. Madine, Flint, pack, glatzel. 20mill+ in transfers on players. How much value will we get back on them? The committee/managers are guilty of some very bad investments.

The club, and therefore the committee, deserve a lot of credit for the success we have seen since Tan came in. But considering we have been promoted twice we should definitely be in a better position on and off the field. Should we really still owe Tan so much money? Especially as we didn't spend a lot during our last prem campaign. All well and good saying Tan deserves credit for converting debt to equity but it was his poor running of the club that run those debts up.

The worst thing the committee have done was giving ole an open chequebook. The benefits we received from our first promotion was completely undone by ole and his freedom to spend sill money. He set us back years which we are still feeling the effects of today.

Huge mistake letting Ole play football manager with our club. But let’s be honest had we reproduced that first half performance v Norwich more we could have gone back up and he might have stayed. Who knows what would have happened?

When discussing wastage of money Malky has to have an honourable mention. Blew a lot of dosh on poor or average players.

But we didn't though did we. He was given plenty of time and was backed as well. He couldn't cut it in the prem or in the championship and I am amazed hes still in a job at United. Shit manager and wasted millions.

Regarding, malky, personally I think he would have kept us up. But we'll never know. Cornelius was a massive flop and we overpaid on him but he has gone on to do quite well and is valued more than what we paid for him.

You could say the same about warnock though as well. He essentially left us with a squad incapable of passing a football around. Madine, Flint, pack, glatzel. 20mill+ in transfers on players. How much value will we get back on them? The committee/managers are guilty of some very bad investments.

He was very much backed. Too much. But at times we did play really decent stuff and it was said we had our best ever squad.