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Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:29 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:I voted no and I'm not sure he has lost the dressing room, they certainly reacted after half time. Give him until xmas at least.



trouble is, another 9 games and 10 points and the season is over... well over if we are fortunate enough that the bottom 3/4 keep up the good work... he needs results yesterday... its not even like we have had a tough start , played 6 bottom half, 3 top half...

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:33 pm

skidemin wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:I voted no and I'm not sure he has lost the dressing room, they certainly reacted after half time. Give him until xmas at least.



trouble is, another 9 games and 10 points and the season is over... well over if we are fortunate enough that the bottom 3/4 keep up the good work... he needs results yesterday... its not even like we have had a tough start , played 6 bottom half, 3 top half...


Our season is over - it’s mid table at best with the trapdoor hovering in the background. Wycombe & Sheff Wed notwithstanding

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:34 pm

fred keenor wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:I think he is well beneath his level, but i voted NO.....

If you can not adjust, you shouldn't be anywhere near professional sport.

If he can't see that Pack is not Pirlo and Morrison is not Van Dyke and make the necessary adjustment then he needs to go during the international break.

I don't want us to become a hire and fire club, but when the evidence indicates that he has no aptitude for championship football management the we need to pull the trigger.

IMO the players have sussed he isn't up to it or just can't do what he wants.

He cannot be this bad, IMO he is trying to be so different to Warnock its almost a parody. Play to our strengths, up the pace work out the right back situation and try to win from the start........




I guess Eddie Howe is setting his sights on bigger clubs than us.



He certainly has lost the players, the performances have shown that plus their attitudes.

Throwing the players under the bus, he's gone when he does that.

Utter rubbish I'm afraid.
Were we awful today - totally. Does Harris need to go - Lets wait til Saturday?
Has he lost the dressing room? Just pure assumption. NOBODY knows that. :roll:

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:36 pm

Granted, he deserves credit for getting us to the play offs and pulling off the signing of Harry Wilson. However, his football is dire, there seems to be no game plan and the form of certain players (e.g. Hoilett, Murphy, Bennett) have dipped and seem to be getting worse. This correlates with the results too - 3 points from 12 is shocking, especially when at least 2 of these games should’ve been comfortably-enough wins.

Eddie Howe would be my (very optimistic) first choice but whoever we appoint needs to be a real signal of intent - not a mediocre-standard appointment like Harris.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:39 pm

No, Morrison as captain needs to get the players together and sort it out. Some of them not giving their all

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:40 pm

Bonner wrote:No, Morrison as captain needs to get the players together and sort it out. Some of them not giving their all

That's the manager's job mate

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:46 pm

BluebirdForever wrote:Granted, he deserves credit for getting us to the play offs and pulling off the signing of Harry Wilson. However, his football is dire, there seems to be no game plan and the form of certain players (e.g. Hoilett, Murphy, Bennett) have dipped and seem to be getting worse. This correlates with the results too - 3 points from 12 is shocking, especially when at least 2 of these games should’ve been comfortably-enough wins.

Eddie Howe would be my (very optimistic) first choice but whoever we appoint needs to be a real signal of intent - not a mediocre-standard appointment like Harris.



Eddie Howe would be fantastic... how much dosh and promises that would involve is another thing... Bournemouth were not operating on a shoe string thats for sure... so i would imagine to come here some substantial promises would need to be made... re budget.. i dont see it..
someone suggested Paul Cook as a more affordable candidate..., 3 promotions all be it lower leagues ..but seemed to be doing a decent job at Wigan with little resources...

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:47 pm

We are dire. Problem is that when he is sacked, and it’s inevitable at some point as we will be nowhere near the top 6, our Board lack the imagination required to hire somebody who can turn us into a force for seasons to come. We should be dominating football in Wales on and off the pitch but are left in the shade by our noisy neighbours.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:49 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Bonner wrote:No, Morrison as captain needs to get the players together and sort it out. Some of them not giving their all

That's the manager's job mate



yes it is and if he cant get them to give their all{ if indeed that is the problem } he really should go...

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:51 pm

skidemin wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Bonner wrote:No, Morrison as captain needs to get the players together and sort it out. Some of them not giving their all

That's the manager's job mate



yes it is and if he cant get them to give their all{ if indeed that is the problem } he really should go...

I agree. Just saying that it's not really SMs job

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:55 pm

We need eddie howe or a foreign manager to play better football

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:55 pm

bluebird58 wrote:Absolutely not!!!

Bunch of miserable and negative tw-ts on here. Give the man until we can no longer make the playoffs.

And start taking your medication again .

Couldn't have put it better myself :laughing5:

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:58 pm

Needs sacking straight away. Way out of his depth.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:58 pm

skidemin wrote:
BluebirdForever wrote:Granted, he deserves credit for getting us to the play offs and pulling off the signing of Harry Wilson. However, his football is dire, there seems to be no game plan and the form of certain players (e.g. Hoilett, Murphy, Bennett) have dipped and seem to be getting worse. This correlates with the results too - 3 points from 12 is shocking, especially when at least 2 of these games should’ve been comfortably-enough wins.

Eddie Howe would be my (very optimistic) first choice but whoever we appoint needs to be a real signal of intent - not a mediocre-standard appointment like Harris.



Eddie Howe would be fantastic... how much dosh and promises that would involve is another thing... Bournemouth were not operating on a shoe string thats for sure... so i would imagine to come here some substantial promises would need to be made... re budget.. i dont see it..
someone suggested Paul Cook as a more affordable candidate..., 3 promotions all be it lower leagues ..but seemed to be doing a decent job at Wigan with little resources...

I don't think Harris should go but if the Club were to sack him I think Paul Cook would be a good shout.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:07 pm

moonboots wrote:
bluebird58 wrote:Absolutely not!!!

Bunch of miserable and negative tw-ts on here. Give the man until we can no longer make the playoffs.

And start taking your medication again .

Couldn't have put it better myself :laughing5:



well we gave Trollope 11 games, which was already to much to still make the play offs... we already have 2 more points than he mustered off 2 games less so its not quite as bad... but when do you reach the point where you cant make the play offs ?can you be bottom three with 30 points from 30 games and still say .. ahh we can win the last 16 get 48 points and sneak in or do you have a different target in mind. ...

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:21 pm

Let’s be clear he will be going, let’s avoid unnecessary delay and do it now. Better managers out there.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:31 pm

Didn't vote, as it's way too early; but he needs to get a grip on the errors being made

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:33 pm

Sven wrote:Didn't vote, as it's way too early; but he needs to get a grip on the errors being made



have asked others this a few times... at what point would you consider it not too early ?

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:36 pm

He should be given more time. He is trying to change the style from years of hoof ball under Warnock.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:37 pm

skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:Didn't vote, as it's way too early; but he needs to get a grip on the errors being made



have asked others this a few times... at what point would you consider it not too early ?



I'd say after 1100 tomorrow not too early.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:38 pm

Big Hill Blue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:Didn't vote, as it's way too early; but he needs to get a grip on the errors being made



have asked others this a few times... at what point would you consider it not too early ?



I'd say after 1100 tomorrow not too early.



:laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:

im in that camp too...go before it becomes to late... i do unfderstand people wanting to be loyal and give him every chance too though...jhust interested in how far they would push that .especially as its a big season in that next will be huge cuts in finances...

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:58 pm

skidemin wrote:
Big Hill Blue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:Didn't vote, as it's way too early; but he needs to get a grip on the errors being made



have asked others this a few times... at what point would you consider it not too early ?



I'd say after 1100 tomorrow not too early.



:laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:

im in that camp too...go before it becomes to late... i do unfderstand people wanting to be loyal and give him every chance too though...jhust interested in how far they would push that .especially as its a big season in that next will be huge cuts in finances...


You have to definitely give him the next 2 games regardless. We’re achieving nothing getting rid now and then going into the next two games managerless especially one being a derby. If we win both it shoots us up the table, if we lose then it’s as good a time for a new manger to come in as it’s an international break. Which gives Harris/New manager time to get to grips with the issues within the group if there are any.

He eluded to the fact we should see Glatzel, Tomlin and Wilson midweek and that we really need them. And I certainly agree as Moore needs a break. And without Tomlin and Wilson we’re severely missing cutting edge in midfield.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:19 pm

Taxi for Harris.

To many of the team not playing for him obviously no respect for him.

Get rid and get someone who will change our system completely.

We didn’t like Jones but at least we played in style.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:24 pm

Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Big Hill Blue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:Didn't vote, as it's way too early; but he needs to get a grip on the errors being made



have asked others this a few times... at what point would you consider it not too early ?



I'd say after 1100 tomorrow not too early.



:laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:

im in that camp too...go before it becomes to late... i do unfderstand people wanting to be loyal and give him every chance too though...jhust interested in how far they would push that .especially as its a big season in that next will be huge cuts in finances...


You have to definitely give him the next 2 games regardless. We’re achieving nothing getting rid now and then going into the next two games managerless especially one being a derby. If we win both it shoots us up the table, if we lose then it’s as good a time for a new manger to come in as it’s an international break. Which gives Harris/New manager time to get to grips with the issues within the group if there are any.

He eluded to the fact we should see Glatzel, Tomlin and Wilson midweek and that we really need them. And I certainly agree as Moore needs a break. And without Tomlin and Wilson we’re severely missing cutting edge in midfield.



yes , if they are considering it , i would imagine the they think the international break would be a good time.. got to say though having watched that 1st half id bite your hand off if offered Sol as caretaker this week....

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:29 pm

skidemin wrote:
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Big Hill Blue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:Didn't vote, as it's way too early; but he needs to get a grip on the errors being made



have asked others this a few times... at what point would you consider it not too early ?



I'd say after 1100 tomorrow not too early.



:laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:

im in that camp too...go before it becomes to late... i do unfderstand people wanting to be loyal and give him every chance too though...jhust interested in how far they would push that .especially as its a big season in that next will be huge cuts in finances...


You have to definitely give him the next 2 games regardless. We’re achieving nothing getting rid now and then going into the next two games managerless especially one being a derby. If we win both it shoots us up the table, if we lose then it’s as good a time for a new manger to come in as it’s an international break. Which gives Harris/New manager time to get to grips with the issues within the group if there are any.

He eluded to the fact we should see Glatzel, Tomlin and Wilson midweek and that we really need them. And I certainly agree as Moore needs a break. And without Tomlin and Wilson we’re severely missing cutting edge in midfield.



yes , if they are considering it , i would imagine the they think the international break would be a good time.. got to say though having watched that 1st half id bite your hand off if offered Sol as caretaker this week....

No thanks. We need someone with experience but I’d like him as a no 2

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:47 pm

skidemin wrote:
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Big Hill Blue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:Didn't vote, as it's way too early; but he needs to get a grip on the errors being made



have asked others this a few times... at what point would you consider it not too early ?



I'd say after 1100 tomorrow not too early.



:laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:

im in that camp too...go before it becomes to late... i do unfderstand people wanting to be loyal and give him every chance too though...jhust interested in how far they would push that .especially as its a big season in that next will be huge cuts in finances...


You have to definitely give him the next 2 games regardless. We’re achieving nothing getting rid now and then going into the next two games managerless especially one being a derby. If we win both it shoots us up the table, if we lose then it’s as good a time for a new manger to come in as it’s an international break. Which gives Harris/New manager time to get to grips with the issues within the group if there are any.

He eluded to the fact we should see Glatzel, Tomlin and Wilson midweek and that we really need them. And I certainly agree as Moore needs a break. And without Tomlin and Wilson we’re severely missing cutting edge in midfield.



yes , if they are considering it , i would imagine the they think the international break would be a good time.. got to say though having watched that 1st half id bite your hand off if offered Sol as caretaker this week....


I personally have faith in Harris, yes we can all find certain flaws or annoyances in every manager. But he did give the team a rocket at half time and they almost got a result from it, which shows to me the dressing room are behind him. I just hope we don’t see Vaulks And Moore start come midweek as they are not in form at all. We need to start the game on the front foot and make a statement, if we do that then all today’s talk is nonsense. Is his post match presser he said there will be changes, so one can only hope.

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:57 pm

Some people need to get a grip. We were very poor today and, following on from Wednesday, it’s not looking good at the minute, however NH has earned the right to turn it around.

Personally, I always thought the NML situation would cost us big time. Time has suggested the club was right to let him go (otherwise he’d have easily won a big contract elsewhere) but he was a very consistent attacking threat for us. Priceless at this level and we miss him

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:59 pm

Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Big Hill Blue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Sven wrote:Didn't vote, as it's way too early; but he needs to get a grip on the errors being made



have asked others this a few times... at what point would you consider it not too early ?



I'd say after 1100 tomorrow not too early.



:laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:

im in that camp too...go before it becomes to late... i do unfderstand people wanting to be loyal and give him every chance too though...jhust interested in how far they would push that .especially as its a big season in that next will be huge cuts in finances...


You have to definitely give him the next 2 games regardless. We’re achieving nothing getting rid now and then going into the next two games managerless especially one being a derby. If we win both it shoots us up the table, if we lose then it’s as good a time for a new manger to come in as it’s an international break. Which gives Harris/New manager time to get to grips with the issues within the group if there are any.

He eluded to the fact we should see Glatzel, Tomlin and Wilson midweek and that we really need them. And I certainly agree as Moore needs a break. And without Tomlin and Wilson we’re severely missing cutting edge in midfield.



yes , if they are considering it , i would imagine the they think the international break would be a good time.. got to say though having watched that 1st half id bite your hand off if offered Sol as caretaker this week....


I personally have faith in Harris, yes we can all find certain flaws or annoyances in every manager. But he did give the team a rocket at half time and they almost got a result from it, which shows to me the dressing room are behind him. I just hope we don’t see Vaulks And Moore start come midweek as they are not in form at all. We need to start the game on the front foot and make a statement, if we do that then all today’s talk is nonsense. Is his post match presser he said there will be changes, so one can only hope.

WHY did he have to give them a rocket at half time? What about at 2.45?
He obviously is unable to get a team ready for the start of the game? What’s the point of rollocking the team at 0-2 after a pathetic display - especially as he had to do the same at Derby.
I
It’s clear the players don’t react positively to him so why should anyone think it’ll improve?

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:00 pm

Dazzy wrote:Some people need to get a grip. We were very poor today and, following on from Wednesday, it’s not looking good at the minute, however NH has earned the right to turn it around.

Personally, I always thought the NML situation would cost us big time. Time has suggested the club was right to let him go (otherwise he’d have easily won a big contract elsewhere) but he was a very consistent attacking threat for us. Priceless at this level and we miss him

He won't be playing anywhere soon mate, certainly not for this season

Re: Should Harris be sacked poll

Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:02 pm

God we football fans are fickle creatures :lol: