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Re: LOCKDOWN AT 6PM - WHAT'S OPEN AND WHATS CLOSED

Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:17 am

thomasblue wrote:We did have a lockdown and people who went through it and tried to comply in this country know that. The reason some think we didn't was because a small minority ignored it and were pictured for national papers. The difference to the UK and other countries is we were not treated as animals and locked up like criminals.

Both ways resulted in the same outcome , both reduced infections, both had very similar death rates and both are now in the middle of a second wave

No government has been proven right in how to deal with this issue, everyone has failed no matter what lengths they went to.

The best for what I can see is Australia and New Zealand. They stopped all foreign travel which is the mistake we made after lockdown allowing foreign Holidays.



no we did not reduce infections... the day Boris announced the lockdown we had 877 new positives and had a total of 6000.... the day he announced easing we had 834 and a total of 297,000 ,,,the day we locked down we had 67 deaths, the day easing off was announced it was 89 deaths.... an incredible 39, 500 people lost their lives and 294,000 got infected during that period... and where are we now...back in lockdown because it worked so well last time...
the numbers were lower during the summer because all numbers for respiratory diseases are lower in the summer...

Re: LOCKDOWN AT 6PM - WHAT'S OPEN AND WHATS CLOSED

Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:55 am

skidemin wrote:
thomasblue wrote:We did have a lockdown and people who went through it and tried to comply in this country know that. The reason some think we didn't was because a small minority ignored it and were pictured for national papers. The difference to the UK and other countries is we were not treated as animals and locked up like criminals.

Both ways resulted in the same outcome , both reduced infections, both had very similar death rates and both are now in the middle of a second wave

No government has been proven right in how to deal with this issue, everyone has failed no matter what lengths they went to.

The best for what I can see is Australia and New Zealand. They stopped all foreign travel which is the mistake we made after lockdown allowing foreign Holidays.



no we did not reduce infections... the day Boris announced the lockdown we had 877 new positives and had a total of 6000.... the day he announced easing we had 834 and a total of 297,000 ,,,the day we locked down we had 67 deaths, the day easing off was announced it was 89 deaths.... an incredible 39, 500 people lost their lives and 294,000 got infected during that period... and where are we now...back in lockdown because it worked so well last time...
the numbers were lower during the summer because all numbers for respiratory diseases are lower in the summer...


When we locked down we didn't even have a reliable test for this virus and were pretty much guessing numbers so nobody knows the true extent of infections. It can only be assumed lockdown worked because when we did finally get tests , cases dropped dramatically before going back up because of opening certain parts of the economy too early.

This second wave around Europe has been caused by international travel and nightclubs in my opinion and that is the case for all countries.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out if people do not meet each other then the virus cannot spread so lockdowns DO work if people stop being so selfish and actually work together to beat this.

All theses conspiracy theorists and fake virus sayers are the ones moaning now we are back in lockdown. Its mostly there fault aswell for not taking it seriously.

Re: LOCKDOWN AT 6PM - WHAT'S OPEN AND WHATS CLOSED

Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:09 am

I'll leave this here......link to the song below if you care to listen. I think the last verse sums up where we are now. :bluebird:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmVkOlZ ... ouncilVEVO

Daylight turns to moonlight, and I'm at my best
Praising the way it all works and gazing upon the rest
The cool before the warm, the calm after the storm
Oh the cool before the warm, the calm after the storm
I wish to stay forever, letting this be my food
Oh but I'm caught up in a whirlwind and my ever changing moods

Bitter turns to sugar, some call a passive tune
But the day things turn sweet, for me won't be too soon
The hush before the silence, the winds after the blast
Oh the hush before the silence, the winds after the blast
I wish we'd move together, this time the bosses sued
Oh but we're caught up in the wilderness and an ever changing mood

Teardrops turn to children, who've never had the time
To commit the sins they pay for through, another's evil mind
The love after the hate
The love we leave too late
The love after the hate, the love we leave too late
I wish we'd wake up one day, and everyone feel moved
Oh but we're caught up in the dailies and an ever changing mood

Evil turns to statues, and masses form a line
But I know which way I'd run to if the choice was mine
The past is our knowledge, the present our mistake
And the future we always leave too late

I wish we'd come to our senses and see there is no truth, oh
In those who promote the confusion for this ever changing mood, yeah

Re: LOCKDOWN AT 6PM - WHAT'S OPEN AND WHATS CLOSED

Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:50 am

thomasblue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
thomasblue wrote:We did have a lockdown and people who went through it and tried to comply in this country know that. The reason some think we didn't was because a small minority ignored it and were pictured for national papers. The difference to the UK and other countries is we were not treated as animals and locked up like criminals.

Both ways resulted in the same outcome , both reduced infections, both had very similar death rates and both are now in the middle of a second wave

No government has been proven right in how to deal with this issue, everyone has failed no matter what lengths they went to.

The best for what I can see is Australia and New Zealand. They stopped all foreign travel which is the mistake we made after lockdown allowing foreign Holidays.



no we did not reduce infections... the day Boris announced the lockdown we had 877 new positives and had a total of 6000.... the day he announced easing we had 834 and a total of 297,000 ,,,the day we locked down we had 67 deaths, the day easing off was announced it was 89 deaths.... an incredible 39, 500 people lost their lives and 294,000 got infected during that period... and where are we now...back in lockdown because it worked so well last time...
the numbers were lower during the summer because all numbers for respiratory diseases are lower in the summer...


When we locked down we didn't even have a reliable test for this virus and were pretty much guessing numbers so nobody knows the true extent of infections. It can only be assumed lockdown worked because when we did finally get tests , cases dropped dramatically before going back up because of opening certain parts of the economy too early.

This second wave around Europe has been caused by international travel and nightclubs in my opinion and that is the case for all countries.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out if people do not meet each other then the virus cannot spread so lockdowns DO work if people stop being so selfish and actually work together to beat this.

All theses conspiracy theorists and fake virus sayers are the ones moaning now we are back in lockdown. Its mostly there fault aswell for not taking it seriously.



my figures are facts...respiratory diseases are lower in summer..fact.
all those assumptions youve put up are just that.... spun by selfish coronaphobes who dont much care about anything other than them hiding behind calling fake news on actual facts because thats not what theyve imagined.... and the unselfish ,selfish...invariably peope it effects least...
yes a lockdown would work if you could isolate each individual... you dont even have to be a toy rocket let alone a scientist to figure out that will not happen,..the last lockdown involved 7 million people being key workers, and joe public having contact with these when receiving or going out for supplies... and once given opportunity the virus will spread as viruses do...

Re: LOCKDOWN AT 6PM - WHAT'S OPEN AND WHATS CLOSED

Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:53 am

skidemin wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
thomasblue wrote:We did have a lockdown and people who went through it and tried to comply in this country know that. The reason some think we didn't was because a small minority ignored it and were pictured for national papers. The difference to the UK and other countries is we were not treated as animals and locked up like criminals.

Both ways resulted in the same outcome , both reduced infections, both had very similar death rates and both are now in the middle of a second wave

No government has been proven right in how to deal with this issue, everyone has failed no matter what lengths they went to.

The best for what I can see is Australia and New Zealand. They stopped all foreign travel which is the mistake we made after lockdown allowing foreign Holidays.



no we did not reduce infections... the day Boris announced the lockdown we had 877 new positives and had a total of 6000.... the day he announced easing we had 834 and a total of 297,000 ,,,the day we locked down we had 67 deaths, the day easing off was announced it was 89 deaths.... an incredible 39, 500 people lost their lives and 294,000 got infected during that period... and where are we now...back in lockdown because it worked so well last time...
the numbers were lower during the summer because all numbers for respiratory diseases are lower in the summer...


When we locked down we didn't even have a reliable test for this virus and were pretty much guessing numbers so nobody knows the true extent of infections. It can only be assumed lockdown worked because when we did finally get tests , cases dropped dramatically before going back up because of opening certain parts of the economy too early.

This second wave around Europe has been caused by international travel and nightclubs in my opinion and that is the case for all countries.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out if people do not meet each other then the virus cannot spread so lockdowns DO work if people stop being so selfish and actually work together to beat this.

All theses conspiracy theorists and fake virus sayers are the ones moaning now we are back in lockdown. Its mostly there fault aswell for not taking it seriously.



my figures are facts...respiratory diseases are lower in summer..fact.
all those assumptions youve put up are just that.... spun by selfish coronaphobes who dont much care about anything other than them hiding behind calling fake news on actual facts because thats not what theyve imagined.... and the unselfish ,selfish...invariably peope it effects least...
yes a lockdown would work if you could isolate each individual... you dont even have to be a toy rocket let alone a scientist to figure out that will not happen,..the last lockdown involved 7 million people being key workers, and joe public having contact with these when receiving or going out for supplies... and once given opportunity the virus will spread as viruses do...


How can your figures be facts when we didn't even have a reliable test until recently.

Nobody has any idea how many infections we had in January-May

Even the top scientists in the world are undecided on the amount around the UK and the rest of the world but yours are fact?

The virus is very real and people who say otherwise are idiots

We are in this position because of them

Re: LOCKDOWN AT 6PM - WHAT'S OPEN AND WHATS CLOSED

Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:14 pm

I have just come off the phone, speaking to my dear old mother who is 86 years old but very sprightly, living in Bridgend.

She stated "It will be so sad not to be able to see Alex (my son) for a few weeks, it was lovely seeing him yesterday".

I said, "What has changed between yesterday and this morning?"

The answer...."Well it's the law isn't it, I don't want to get in trouble with the police!"

WTF is happening??? OK to see Apples (Grandmother) yesterday but today, not allowed!!!!

Is anybody in Wales actually complaining about these draconian, stasi state laws to their MP's/AM's? Or are you happy with the crazy rules that now exist?

Re: LOCKDOWN AT 6PM - WHAT'S OPEN AND WHATS CLOSED

Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:25 pm

Road clocks on the A48 across the border asking drivers who they are what are they doing.This very worrying and we should all be concerned. Well when you vote Labour in Wales you end up with a half wit that is Mr Driftwood. He is a third rate council official. He will fling thousands of people onto the dole also hundreds of firms that will disappear. f*cking moron. What do other nationalities think when they see him wittering on?

Re: LOCKDOWN AT 6PM - WHAT'S OPEN AND WHATS CLOSED

Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:45 pm

This lockdown has only come about because of flip flop starmer spouting about we need a lock down it was only the other week he was saying a lockdown would be disastrous for the economy ,you couldn't make it up

Re: LOCKDOWN AT 6PM - WHAT'S OPEN AND WHATS CLOSED

Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:35 pm

Will people be moaning if wales is open for business and everyone able to visit family at Xmas but England in lockdown ?

Will this then be seen as a good decision in hindsight ?

Time will tell

Re: LOCKDOWN AT 6PM - WHAT'S OPEN AND WHATS CLOSED

Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:54 pm

Jimmy Scoular wrote:Road clocks on the A48 across the border asking drivers who they are what are they doing.This very worrying and we should all be concerned. Well when you vote Labour in Wales you end up with a half wit that is Mr Driftwood. He is a third rate council official. He will fling thousands of people onto the dole also hundreds of firms that will disappear. f*cking moron. What do other nationalities think when they see him wittering on?



Rd blocks at carmarthen and on a40 narberth! Obviously plod nothing better to do with everyone stuck at home.. :o

Re: LOCKDOWN AT 6PM - WHAT'S OPEN AND WHATS CLOSED

Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:01 pm

thomasblue wrote:Will people be moaning if wales is open for business and everyone able to visit family at Xmas but England in lockdown ?
ions of this lockdown
Will this then be seen as a good decision in hindsight ?

Time will tell

Unfortunately, Wales are not responsible for the financial implications of this lockdown e.g. wages, business grants, universal credits and business closures.

And all of the above drips into unemployment, despair, low self esteem and suicide.

Please wake up to the big picture.......you're mate might be the next poor soul who loses his/hers job through no fault of their own.

And for what? Obviously a grand master plan that we are not privvy to!

Re: LOCKDOWN AT 6PM - WHAT'S OPEN AND WHATS CLOSED

Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:34 pm

TheHangedMan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Will people be moaning if wales is open for business and everyone able to visit family at Xmas but England in lockdown ?
ions of this lockdown
Will this then be seen as a good decision in hindsight ?

Time will tell

Unfortunately, Wales are not responsible for the financial implications of this lockdown e.g. wages, business grants, universal credits and business closures.

And all of the above drips into unemployment, despair, low self esteem and suicide.

Please wake up to the big picture.......you're mate might be the next poor soul who loses his/hers job through no fault of their own.

And for what? Obviously a grand master plan that we are not privvy to!


We are ALL responsible both financially and health wise. This virus is back to this degree because people ignored it and didnt take it seriously. I dont need to be WOKE I am already wide awake. People will lose there jobs because of the selfishness of others not the government's decisions. They paid most peoples wages for months and a lot of people paid them back by taking the piss or spending it abroad when our economy needed it badly.

The only grand plan is to save our health service and stop this bad situation turning into a total disaster for years stop reading conspiracy theories on Facebook and do your part to help rid us of the virus otherwise you are part of the problem.

Re: LOCKDOWN AT 6PM - WHAT'S OPEN AND WHATS CLOSED

Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:01 pm

thomasblue wrote:
TheHangedMan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Will people be moaning if wales is open for business and everyone able to visit family at Xmas but England in lockdown ?
ions of this lockdown
Will this then be seen as a good decision in hindsight ?

Time will tell

Unfortunately, Wales are not responsible for the financial implications of this lockdown e.g. wages, business grants, universal credits and business closures.

And all of the above drips into unemployment, despair, low self esteem and suicide.

Please wake up to the big picture.......you're mate might be the next poor soul who loses his/hers job through no fault of their own.

And for what? Obviously a grand master plan that we are not privvy to!


We are ALL responsible both financially and health wise. This virus is back to this degree because people ignored it and didnt take it seriously. I dont need to be WOKE I am already wide awake. People will lose there jobs because of the selfishness of others not the government's decisions. They paid most peoples wages for months and a lot of people paid them back by taking the piss or spending it abroad when our economy needed it badly.

The only grand plan is to save our health service and stop this bad situation turning into a total disaster for years stop reading conspiracy theories on Facebook and do your part to help rid us of the virus otherwise you are part of the problem.

There is NO conspiracy theory.......it is known as a THEORY....only people like you call it a CONSPIRACY THEORY Thomas to hide behind the obvious truth.

If you honestly believe that more lives will be saved by another lockdown i feel for you mate. You might be allright Jack.....but many businesess and employees are being cast aside for what????

Re: LOCKDOWN AT 6PM - WHAT'S OPEN AND WHATS CLOSED

Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:13 pm

TheHangedMan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
TheHangedMan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Will people be moaning if wales is open for business and everyone able to visit family at Xmas but England in lockdown ?
ions of this lockdown
Will this then be seen as a good decision in hindsight ?

Time will tell

Unfortunately, Wales are not responsible for the financial implications of this lockdown e.g. wages, business grants, universal credits and business closures.

And all of the above drips into unemployment, despair, low self esteem and suicide.

Please wake up to the big picture.......you're mate might be the next poor soul who loses his/hers job through no fault of their own.

And for what? Obviously a grand master plan that we are not privvy to!


We are ALL responsible both financially and health wise. This virus is back to this degree because people ignored it and didnt take it seriously. I dont need to be WOKE I am already wide awake. People will lose there jobs because of the selfishness of others not the government's decisions. They paid most peoples wages for months and a lot of people paid them back by taking the piss or spending it abroad when our economy needed it badly.

The only grand plan is to save our health service and stop this bad situation turning into a total disaster for years stop reading conspiracy theories on Facebook and do your part to help rid us of the virus otherwise you are part of the problem.

There is NO conspiracy theory.......it is known as a THEORY....only people like you call it a CONSPIRACY THEORY Thomas to hide behind the obvious truth.

If you honestly believe that more lives will be saved by another lockdown i feel for you mate. You might be allright Jack.....but many businesess and employees are being cast aside for what????



I wouldnt bother mate,you will never get certain posters to think differently, some in my eyes are terrified individuals,and anyone who thinks these restrictions will stop the virus,is in my eyes a little naive,but its all opinions,thats all.those like thomas love to put different thinkers in boxes,it jelps them feel they are right.

Re: LOCKDOWN AT 6PM - WHAT'S OPEN AND WHATS CLOSED

Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:12 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
TheHangedMan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
TheHangedMan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Will people be moaning if wales is open for business and everyone able to visit family at Xmas but England in lockdown ?
ions of this lockdown
Will this then be seen as a good decision in hindsight ?

Time will tell

Unfortunately, Wales are not responsible for the financial implications of this lockdown e.g. wages, business grants, universal credits and business closures.

And all of the above drips into unemployment, despair, low self esteem and suicide.

Please wake up to the big picture.......you're mate might be the next poor soul who loses his/hers job through no fault of their own.

And for what? Obviously a grand master plan that we are not privvy to!


We are ALL responsible both financially and health wise. This virus is back to this degree because people ignored it and didnt take it seriously. I dont need to be WOKE I am already wide awake. People will lose there jobs because of the selfishness of others not the government's decisions. They paid most peoples wages for months and a lot of people paid them back by taking the piss or spending it abroad when our economy needed it badly.

The only grand plan is to save our health service and stop this bad situation turning into a total disaster for years stop reading conspiracy theories on Facebook and do your part to help rid us of the virus otherwise you are part of the problem.

There is NO conspiracy theory.......it is known as a THEORY....only people like you call it a CONSPIRACY THEORY Thomas to hide behind the obvious truth.

If you honestly believe that more lives will be saved by another lockdown i feel for you mate. You might be allright Jack.....but many businesess and employees are being cast aside for what????



I wouldnt bother mate,you will never get certain posters to think differently, some in my eyes are terrified individuals,and anyone who thinks these restrictions will stop the virus,is in my eyes a little naive,but its all opinions,thats all.those like thomas love to put different thinkers in boxes,it jelps them feel they are right.


You don't even know me so don't try and tell people what I'm like.

It goes both ways. I want to get rid of this virus as quickly as possible and if that means lockdown then so be it. You want everything now and dont give a shit about the consequences if you are wrong .

It is an undeniable fact that a lockdown will help contain the virus its not even debatable.

But hey ho if you want to stay in your supposed little box then carry on. I couldnt give a shit if I'm wrong I will keep my family safe by being as careful as possible and helping the country out by complying with what we are asked to do by leading scientists unlike people like you who just make the situation worse by fighting every decision they make because you think you know better

Re: LOCKDOWN AT 6PM - WHAT'S OPEN AND WHATS CLOSED

Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:15 pm

TheHangedMan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
TheHangedMan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Will people be moaning if wales is open for business and everyone able to visit family at Xmas but England in lockdown ?
ions of this lockdown
Will this then be seen as a good decision in hindsight ?

Time will tell

Unfortunately, Wales are not responsible for the financial implications of this lockdown e.g. wages, business grants, universal credits and business closures.

And all of the above drips into unemployment, despair, low self esteem and suicide.

Please wake up to the big picture.......you're mate might be the next poor soul who loses his/hers job through no fault of their own.

And for what? Obviously a grand master plan that we are not privvy to!


We are ALL responsible both financially and health wise. This virus is back to this degree because people ignored it and didnt take it seriously. I dont need to be WOKE I am already wide awake. People will lose there jobs because of the selfishness of others not the government's decisions. They paid most peoples wages for months and a lot of people paid them back by taking the piss or spending it abroad when our economy needed it badly.

The only grand plan is to save our health service and stop this bad situation turning into a total disaster for years stop reading conspiracy theories on Facebook and do your part to help rid us of the virus otherwise you are part of the problem.

There is NO conspiracy theory.......it is known as a THEORY....only people like you call it a CONSPIRACY THEORY Thomas to hide behind the obvious truth.

If you honestly believe that more lives will be saved by another lockdown i feel for you mate. You might be allright Jack.....but many businesess and employees are being cast aside for what????


Flat earth is also a theory , do you believe that even though the truth is pretty obvious ?

Unfortunately for some businesses that is going to be unavoidable.
Many have been given grants and had staff paid by the government for months. Whatever happens lockdown or not this is going to get messy in the next few weeks.

Show me one single factual piece of evidence that shows undeniably there is a alterior motive to this lockdown