Drakeford and WAG

Devolution has been a total unmitigated disaster.
This nation is in the hands of incompetent unremarkable inefficient ineffective amateurs.
Devolution is the thin end of the wedge. Look at the state of London under Khan and Manchester under Burnham - equally as poorly run as Wales.
The leaders of the said 3 are appalling.

Appalling. Yes they have a very difficult job but the measures they take are draconian and they speak to the public at large as if we are children and they are the only ones who have a say. They keep on saying about the science but they never show the public these factual figures. He is now talking about only buying essentials. My goodness. are we a democratic society? I wonder where all these WAG will be in 5 years time when we try and get back on track our severely damaged economy.

Vague Guessing has just said on Sky that electrical goods are also non essential god alone knows how far this list will become by lunchtime. It's called making policy on the hop which just demonstrates that this WAG has just one policy to deal with this crisis and it's called shortermism.

Everyone knows that this virus is going to be with us for at least the next 6-9 months so where is the medium term plan to allow us to live as normal a life as possible ?

Sadly our media are not getting to the root cause of why this lockdown is required and what makes me mad is you only have to read the WAG Covid Control Plan to realise they have been bricking it from day 1, Why? Because to the pitiful number of intensive care beds available in Wales. This after 21 years of Welsh Labour Government.

Drakeford and Vague Guessing say this lockdown is required because SAGE recommended it, but that was over a month ago and the other day Prof Jonathan Van Tam told the UK media he would have supported a national lockdown then but not today because he could not support a national lockdown when large areas of the country had low rates of infection, think of Wales should that be applied here. Not for Drakeford

I watched a sub committee meeting in Parliament on they were told that a 2-3 national lockdown would suppress the virus but only for about 28 days then you would need another. So this can only be seen as the first in a series of National Lockdowns which I suppose fits perfectly with this WAG short term view of dealing with this crisis.

"Why? Because to the pitiful number of intensive care beds available in Wales. This after 21 years of Welsh Labour Government".

I think you've hit the nail on the head, he is overacting because he knows we will cope worse than the rest of the UK, as our welsh Labour NHS is in such a state!
By taking these measures he is going to ruin an already weak welsh economy!

Wales has about 190 ICU beds which equates to around 5.7 beds per 100,000 of population. Compare that say Luxembourg which has 25 beds per 100,000, or Estonia and Lithuania with 15 or Latvia with 10. Last July this WAG published a report on ICU provision in Wales which stated that there was an immediate requirement for a further 95 beds, was that actioned and what about the Nightingale Hospital that £m's has been spent on. Knowing that the 2nd wave was coming why haven't patients known to have covid sent to them How many lives could have been saved at the Royal Glamorgan

Is it to much to expect that Wales has numbers of ICU beds comparable with Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia. The truth is there is only one other country in Europe with fewer, Portugal with 4.8 per 100,000. It's a national disgrace.

But nevermind Drakeford will continue to punish the easiest targets, the people and businesses that have followed every regulation. I'm amazed at just how many people swallow his bullshit.

They probably don't have anyone to staff the nightingale hospitals, but if they did that is the answer make them covid only hospitals, to keep it out of the other welsh hospitals, as you said why build them at a massive cost and then scrap them?

Coz they haven't got a fkn clue

https://youtu.be/jWTGsUyv8IE
Drakeford’s ideal Supermarket

Drakefords favourite city. Unfortunately for us, he's not in it.

Guys. Those that have had enough of devolution. There is a party that wants to scrap it. Get behind them. I voted no then. I’d vote no again.

Guys. Those that have had enough of devolution. There is a party that wants to scrap it. Get behind them. I voted no then. I’d vote no again.

Yeah right as if there’ll ever be a vote for axing devolution - turkeys don’t vote for xmas

After today's petty, ridiculous rules imposed regarding what you can and can't buy in a shop is there anybody who still seriously believes that the aim of the WAG is to control the virus when it's aim is clearly to control the people of Wales.

How exactly does telling people they can't buy a toaster for the next week in a supermarket stop the spread of the virus?

The abuse of power by the clowns running this country is staggering.

First they tell you where you can and can't go.

Then they tell you what you can and can't do.

Then they tell you what you can and can't buy.

Not that a big a step to them telling you what you can and can't say or think.

After today's petty, ridiculous rules imposed regarding what you can and can't buy in a shop is there anybody who still seriously believes that the aim of the WAG is to control the virus when it's aim is clearly to control the people of Wales.

How exactly does telling people they can't buy a toaster for the next week in a supermarket stop the spread of the virus?

The abuse of power by the clowns running this country is staggering.

First they tell you where you can and can't go.

Then they tell you what you can and can't do.

Then they tell you what you can and can't buy.

Not that a big a step to them telling you what you can and can't say or think.

With you all thecway mate, except the part where you say they will tell us what we can/ cannot say or think because these MORONS can't think for themselves.

Get shot of the lot

Guys. Those that have had enough of devolution. There is a party that wants to scrap it. Get behind them. I voted no then. I’d vote no again.

Yeah right as if there’ll ever be a vote for axing devolution - turkeys don’t vote for xmas

well if you vote it can happen..isnt that how we left the EU ?

https://www.abolishthewelshassembly.co.uk/

Even though I don't agree with the lockdown they had no choice but to do this for all the reasons the poster said above.

I repeat I do not agree with it but they left themselves with no choice by their own actions, it's a complete and uttter mess.

You can't close a florist for 17 days but let Tesco sell Flowers, or close a toy shop but let Tesco sell toys.

The answer of course is we shouldn't be in a lockdown but WAG have fucked it for themselves and will slowly lose even the most of law abiding people.

Smaller retailers forced to close would have flagged this up with WAG 100% and you can't blame the for that. Why should they loose out?

If you follow that argument through then why should Tesco be able to sell alcohol when pubs are closed and their business is being harmed?

Why should Tesco be able to sell ready meals (or indeed any food) when cafes and restaurants are closed and their businesses are being harmed?

Why didn't this happen for the five months or so of the original lockdown when these other businesses were forced to close down?

By forcing people to do their shopping on line they are dealing an even bigger blow to small shops and the local economy because if you come to rely on the internet for every aspect of your shopping needs then people will never utilise the local shops and businesses ever again - why should they?

This government has no clue - they are making things up as they go along and apart from Covid they have no interest in anything else as far as this country or it's people are concerned.

Shocking.

You're preaching to the converted mate. I'm just telling you why they have done it.

BTW, Pubs/Cafes ahd Restaurants can still do takeaway service so it's up to us as the public to stick two fingers up to the big corps, will that happen, doubtful. If I'm honest most people (not saying you) who cry about local businesses etc never use them anyway, it's why our town have been ghost towns long before Covid came along.

RV,

Wasn't having a go in my post and sorry if it came over that way.

Agree with what you say about local businesses too.

I know you wasn't mate don't worry, its frustrating times for everyone mate, me and you are on the same page by the looks of ir my friend

Wales has entered a national 17-day lockdown in an effort to slow the rise of Covid cases and hospital admissions.

Major restrictions to people's lives came into force at 18:00 BST on Friday.

People can leave home for limited reasons including to buy food and medication, provide care, exercise or to work if they cannot do so from home.

All but essential businesses have closed with economists warning the measures may cost the Welsh economy more than £500m.

WAG has no mandate the pathetic turnout in 1997 did not reflect the will of the people at all!!!The creepy Ron Davies who ran the campaign has joined more parties since his moment of madness on Clapham common than I care to shake a stick at. The quality of AM is truly awful and another layer of pen pushers added to the wage bill. It has been suggested we should add to the madness by increasing the number of seats. Abolish it now !