Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:12 am
Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:52 am
Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:28 am
Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:33 am
stickywicket wrote:I'd like to see our black players walk off if this happens.
If players read messageboards before they sign for clubs .
No wonder we have problems signing decent players .
Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:35 am
ChippyAl wrote:I suspected opinions on this differ massively amongst our fan base. Looks that way from the poll.
Let the players have their opinion. You can’t make the assumption that they’re all just doing it without knowing why or for the sake of it. If they are, then that’s their prerogative. Easier to have an opinion on a message board than when your a professional sport person in the media glare.
If you have a strong opinion either way as a supporter, there are better and more appropriate ways to voice them than at a football match. People saying that football shouldn’t be politicise would be doing just that.
Whatever your reasons wanting to boo, the interpretation by the media will only be negative (which I would understand). The club has come a long way and booing would only only serve to create negative headlines and damage the club.
Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:47 am
Jock wrote:ChippyAl wrote:I suspected opinions on this differ massively amongst our fan base. Looks that way from the poll.
Let the players have their opinion. You can’t make the assumption that they’re all just doing it without knowing why or for the sake of it. If they are, then that’s their prerogative. Easier to have an opinion on a message board than when your a professional sport person in the media glare.
If you have a strong opinion either way as a supporter, there are better and more appropriate ways to voice them than at a football match. People saying that football shouldn’t be politicise would be doing just that.
Whatever your reasons wanting to boo, the interpretation by the media will only be negative (which I would understand). The club has come a long way and booing would only only serve to create negative headlines and damage the club.
The Club has come a long way???? been watching Cardiff since the 70s and race has never been an issue.
Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:54 am
Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:59 am
ChippyAl wrote:I suspected opinions on this differ massively amongst our fan base. Looks that way from the poll.
Let the players have their opinion. You can’t make the assumption that they’re all just doing it without knowing why or for the sake of it. If they are, then that’s their prerogative. Easier to have an opinion on a message board than when your a professional sport person in the media glare.
If you have a strong opinion either way as a supporter, there are better and more appropriate ways to voice them than at a football match. People saying that football shouldn’t be politicise would be doing just that.
Whatever your reasons wanting to boo, the interpretation by the media will only be negative (which I would understand). The club has come a long way and booing would only only serve to create negative headlines and damage the club.
Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:02 pm
stickywicket wrote:I'd like to see our black players walk off if this happens.
If players read messageboards before they sign for clubs .
No wonder we have problems signing decent players .
Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:20 pm
skidemin wrote:stickywicket wrote:I'd like to see our black players walk off if this happens.
If players read messageboards before they sign for clubs .
No wonder we have problems signing decent players .
its a football stadium not somewhere to shove their racist views down peoples throats..
racists walk off...honestly i do not care...keep walking racists and take the racist fans with you...
Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:30 pm
stickywicket wrote:skidemin wrote:stickywicket wrote:I'd like to see our black players walk off if this happens.
If players read messageboards before they sign for clubs .
No wonder we have problems signing decent players .
its a football stadium not somewhere to shove their racist views down peoples throats..
racists walk off...honestly i do not care...keep walking racists and take the racist fans with you...
Thats what might happen the black players might well keep walking.
As for me Ive supported this club since 1960 as an eight yer old kid,So Mr skidemin you can f**k right off.
Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:30 pm
davejohns74 wrote:I will walk out and never return if my fellow city fan were to boo black players standing up for their rights to live equally.
Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:42 pm
Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:43 pm
davejohns74 wrote:I will walk out and never return if my fellow city fan were to boo black players standing up for their rights to live equally.
Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:53 pm
davejohns74 wrote:I will walk out and never return if my fellow city fan were to boo black players standing up for their rights to live equally.
Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:15 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:davejohns74 wrote:I will walk out and never return if my fellow city fan were to boo black players standing up for their rights to live equally.
Two questions...
Firstly, name just one right in this country that a black person doesn't have equality with a white person has. I mean legally and institutionally here not anecdotal.
Secondly, why was the Black Lives Matter movement, a movement that was pushed by a disgustingly opportunist, openly Marxist and hugely hypocritical organisation allowed to usurp the Kick It Out organisation?
Kick it Out, has a 25 year history of tackling racism and hate through football on the international stage.
Kick it Out achieves a huge amount not by tearing down statues, burning and looting but by building grass roots movements that unite communities rather than divide and most importantly are NON POLITICAL.
If we want to continue to re enforce a message of equality, here at home and use the influence of our football teams to spread that message across the world (a message I'm sure 99% of the us all agree with) then why use an overtly political movement to do that when there is already a well established, respected non-political equivalent that can do the same job?
Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:16 pm
ChippyAl wrote:Jock wrote:ChippyAl wrote:I suspected opinions on this differ massively amongst our fan base. Looks that way from the poll.
Let the players have their opinion. You can’t make the assumption that they’re all just doing it without knowing why or for the sake of it. If they are, then that’s their prerogative. Easier to have an opinion on a message board than when your a professional sport person in the media glare.
If you have a strong opinion either way as a supporter, there are better and more appropriate ways to voice them than at a football match. People saying that football shouldn’t be politicise would be doing just that.
Whatever your reasons wanting to boo, the interpretation by the media will only be negative (which I would understand). The club has come a long way and booing would only only serve to create negative headlines and damage the club.
The Club has come a long way???? been watching Cardiff since the 70s and race has never been an issue.
I meant in terms of negative headlines about the club and our fanbase.
If Fans start booing the knee, no doubt the media will drag things up from the past, even if they’re unrelated just to make us look worse.
Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:40 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:davejohns74 wrote:I will walk out and never return if my fellow city fan were to boo black players standing up for their rights to live equally.
Two questions...
Firstly, name just one right in this country that a black person doesn't have equality with a white person has. I mean legally and institutionally here not anecdotal.
Secondly, why was the Black Lives Matter movement, a movement that was pushed by a disgustingly opportunist, openly Marxist and hugely hypocritical organisation allowed to usurp the Kick It Out organisation?
Kick it Out, has a 25 year history of tackling racism and hate through football on the international stage.
Kick it Out achieves a huge amount not by tearing down statues, burning and looting but by building grass roots movements that unite communities rather than divide and most importantly are NON POLITICAL.
If we want to continue to re enforce a message of equality, here at home and use the influence of our football teams to spread that message across the world (a message I'm sure 99% of the us all agree with) then why use an overtly political movement to do that when there is already a well established, respected non-political equivalent that can do the same job?
Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:05 pm
Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:13 pm
skidemin wrote:stickywicket wrote:skidemin wrote:stickywicket wrote:I'd like to see our black players walk off if this happens.
If players read messageboards before they sign for clubs .
No wonder we have problems signing decent players .
its a football stadium not somewhere to shove their racist views down peoples throats..
racists walk off...honestly i do not care...keep walking racists and take the racist fans with you...
Thats what might happen the black players might well keep walking.
As for me Ive supported this club since 1960 as an eight yer old kid,So Mr skidemin you can f**k right off.
good.. and i dont care how old they are or how long theyve been here BLM is racist and has no place at the club whether it be 1960 or 2020...
Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:30 pm
Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:55 pm
Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:56 pm
spikeferndale wrote:Some of you still don't get it?
If Racism wasn't so rife in our society, organisations such as BLM wouldn't exist.
Open your eyes, " We are a Racist society" and it needs to change.
To say that all lives matter, is stating the obvious and is just trying to deny that we have a real problem, that needs addressing.
Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:59 pm
spikeferndale wrote:Some of you still don't get it?
If Racism wasn't so rife in our society, organisations such as BLM wouldn't exist.
Open your eyes, " We are a Racist society" and it needs to change.
To say that all lives matter, is stating the obvious and is just trying to deny that we have a real problem, that needs addressing.
Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:08 pm
Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:14 pm
CCFCJosh75 wrote:Very impressive from blm to be considered Marxist, communist, and fascist at the same time.
I'm sure the 'no politics in football' brigade will be up in arms next month when the players wear poppies and have a minutes silence. The only thing they'll actually be angry about is if someone doesn't (like James mcclean)
Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:25 pm
Jock wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Very impressive from blm to be considered Marxist, communist, and fascist at the same time.
I'm sure the 'no politics in football' brigade will be up in arms next month when the players wear poppies and have a minutes silence. The only thing they'll actually be angry about is if someone doesn't (like James mcclean)
Communism/Fascism two cheeks of the same shite covered arse.
I don’t know why or if you wear a poppy but I don’t wear one for political reasons, in fact I don’t know what the politics of the poppy are.
Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:38 pm
stickywicket wrote:skidemin wrote:stickywicket wrote:skidemin wrote:stickywicket wrote:I'd like to see our black players walk off if this happens.
If players read messageboards before they sign for clubs .
No wonder we have problems signing decent players .
its a football stadium not somewhere to shove their racist views down peoples throats..
racists walk off...honestly i do not care...keep walking racists and take the racist fans with you...
Thats what might happen the black players might well keep walking.
As for me Ive supported this club since 1960 as an eight yer old kid,So Mr skidemin you can f**k right off.
good.. and i dont care how old they are or how long theyve been here BLM is racist and has no place at the club whether it be 1960 or 2020...
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Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:46 pm
Welshman in CA wrote:Jock wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Very impressive from blm to be considered Marxist, communist, and fascist at the same time.
I'm sure the 'no politics in football' brigade will be up in arms next month when the players wear poppies and have a minutes silence. The only thing they'll actually be angry about is if someone doesn't (like James mcclean)
Communism/Fascism two cheeks of the same shite covered arse.
I don’t know why or if you wear a poppy but I don’t wear one for political reasons, in fact I don’t know what the politics of the poppy are.
Jock, are you saying you don't wear a poppy because it has political reasons for being or that you do wear a poppy because of what it means to you personally?
Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:02 pm
CCFCJosh75 wrote:Very impressive from blm to be considered Marxist, communist, and fascist at the same time.
I'm sure the 'no politics in football' brigade will be up in arms next month when the players wear poppies and have a minutes silence. The only thing they'll actually be angry about is if someone doesn't (like James mcclean)