" Plans to radically change English football "

But the money going to the EFL will save so many clubs.

The money will be very much needed hense the reason the EFL Chairman is up for a change, but its a poposal that benefits the top 6 teams in the premier league in the long run hense the big picture for the top 6 teams.

We’re going to end up with a football equivalent of the World Series.

I don’t think so. They aren’t stopping promotion and relegation.

They are talking about significant money for the EFL. Reducing the premier league to the same amount of teams as most top tier European leagues.

The FFP rules I have concerns about as it seems like they are looking to make it a closed shop.

They can promise what they want... The fact there will be no more one club one vote, and the big 6 will hold the power. Means that they can stop relegation, they can then reduce the amount of TV revenue the efl gets from 25% to 0% and nothing can be done..

We’re going to end up with a football equivalent of the World Series.

I don’t think so. They aren’t stopping promotion and relegation.

They are talking about significant money for the EFL. Reducing the premier league to the same amount of teams as most top tier European leagues.

The FFP rules I have concerns about as it seems like they are looking to make it a closed shop.

What you forget is once the big 6 get the voting powers they want they can alter "ALL" aspects of this deal they can change relegation ... can do their own deals regarding tv just like real Barca have done change the 25% deal in fact they can do what they like in the future which is their objective.

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What A Shame.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54536780

The proposal means that they want 2 teams relegated so if thats the case will the Play-Offs get scrapped?

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What A Shame.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54536780

The proposal means that they want 2 teams relegated so if thats the case will the Play-Offs get scrapped?

SHAME is spot on

We’re going to end up with a football equivalent of the World Series.

I don’t think so. They aren’t stopping promotion and relegation.

They are talking about significant money for the EFL. Reducing the premier league to the same amount of teams as most top tier European leagues.

The FFP rules I have concerns about as it seems like they are looking to make it a closed shop.

its flat put anti football
not stopping promotion well they might as well without parachute payments.

How are parachute payments fair?

They are distributing money to all the clubs rather than a select few. I can’t see how that is unfair.

CARDIFF CITY FOOTBALL CLUB BACK PROJECT BIG PICTURE
What A Shame.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54536780

The proposal means that they want 2 teams relegated so if thats the case will the Play-Offs get scrapped?

Have you even read the idea you have started a topic on?

Two teams relegated and then 16th place in the play offs with 3/4/5 in the championship.

LIKE MOST OTHER EUROPEAN LEAGUES.

We’re going to end up with a football equivalent of the World Series.

I don’t think so. They aren’t stopping promotion and relegation.

They are talking about significant money for the EFL. Reducing the premier league to the same amount of teams as most top tier European leagues.

The FFP rules I have concerns about as it seems like they are looking to make it a closed shop.

What you forget is once the big 6 get the voting powers they want they can alter "ALL" aspects of this deal they can change relegation ... can do their own deals regarding tv just like real Barca have done change the 25% deal in fact they can do what they like in the future which is their objective.

Of course there are flaws. This is the gold plated solution which quite clearly won’t pass first round of negotiations.

It will save clubs though. Has to be worth merit.

Getting rid of community shield? So. I couldn’t care a f**k. Getting rid of EFL Cup? Or just losing its European place? I don’t care about that either. Just a distraction.

How much money do the premier League clubs get with only 18 ,does it stay the same as now or do they get more because there is less clubs in the premier League?

All seems a bit too convenient how it all falls into place.

Just as Everton have built a strong team, Wolves have consistently been fighting for Europe, Sheffield last season and Leicester winning the title a few years back the traditional big 6 are looking at major competition for their top 6 spots and European places. So a proposal which gives 9 clubs more power than all the rest and only requires 6 votes for motions to pass (with all of the big 6 being able to vote) looks like a power grab.

The money is undoubtedly needed in the EFL but this just seems like a way to further cement the big 6 as the best clubs in England and giving them an unjustly large say in the future of football in the UK.

Man City, Southampton, Wolves, Leeds have all played in Div One in the last 15 or so years, their achievements in getting back to the Premier Division will never be replicated if this plan goes through. With no parachute payments no promoted clubs will ever be able to compete and the league will be less competitive and be a lose its appeal.
It is no surprise to me that this is being pushed by American Billionaire owners. EFL clubs cannot see beyond the £250 as they are so desperate for cash.if 2 teams are lost from the premier league and all the other leagues remain the same size Two teams have to be lost somewhere. A Salary cap might work in the bottom leagues but would be difficult to implement in the Championship and could even push up overall wages.

This plan is a Trojan horse and once the gates are open they will never be closed and football will be the loser and big clubs the winners.

I forgot Sheff Utd in the teams recently in the 3rd tier.

Man City, Southampton, Wolves, Leeds have all played in Div One in the last 15 or so years, their achievements in getting back to the Premier Division will never be replicated if this plan goes through. With no parachute payments no promoted clubs will ever be able to compete and the league will be less competitive and be a lose its appeal.
It is no surprise to me that this is being pushed by American Billionaire owners. EFL clubs cannot see beyond the £250 as they are so desperate for cash.if 2 teams are lost from the premier league and all the other leagues remain the same size Two teams have to be lost somewhere. A Salary cap might work in the bottom leagues but would be difficult to implement in the Championship and could even push up overall wages.

This plan is a Trojan horse and once the gates are open they will never be closed and football will be the loser and big clubs the winners.

I'm taking the scrapping of the parachute payments as that they won't be spread out over a number of years, like they are now. Surely you'll still get all the money you're entitled to from promotion?

Whilst in some ways I applaud the fact that the Prem clubs are at least trying to do something, I think it's pretty worrying overall.

Firstly, we all know how difficult it is to get promotion into a 20 team Premiership. The proposal to move to 18 teams will be swiftly followed by a move (by the Top 6/9) to reduce relegations to 2 clubs, meaning only the top 2 in the Championship will get promoted.

That just makes the Premiership even more of a closed shop and money making machine for those large clubs.

In addition it can't be right for the Top 6/9 to have any more voting rights than the remaining clubs. It will just mean that all decisions/changes will be made to benefit the biggest clubs who, arguably, are the ones that least need anything more !!

But the money going to the EFL will save so many clubs.

The money will be very much needed hense the reason the EFL Chairman is up for a change, but its a poposal that benefits the top 6 teams in the premier league in the long run hense the big picture for the top 6 teams.

How so Sam?

You have just asked about the promotion aspect so you clearly haven’t read it.

Explain how it only benefits the top 6?

Bearing in mind the top 6 now is a lot different to the top 6 when the premier league started.

All seems a bit too convenient how it all falls into place.

Just as Everton have built a strong team, Wolves have consistently been fighting for Europe, Sheffield last season and Leicester winning the title a few years back the traditional big 6 are looking at major competition for their top 6 spots and European places. So a proposal which gives 9 clubs more power than all the rest and only requires 6 votes for motions to pass (with all of the big 6 being able to vote) looks like a power grab.

The money is undoubtedly needed in the EFL but this just seems like a way to further cement the big 6 as the best clubs in England and giving them an unjustly large say in the future of football in the UK.

Aren’t Everyone one of the nine though?

All seems a bit too convenient how it all falls into place.

Just as Everton have built a strong team, Wolves have consistently been fighting for Europe, Sheffield last season and Leicester winning the title a few years back the traditional big 6 are looking at major competition for their top 6 spots and European places. So a proposal which gives 9 clubs more power than all the rest and only requires 6 votes for motions to pass (with all of the big 6 being able to vote) looks like a power grab.

The money is undoubtedly needed in the EFL but this just seems like a way to further cement the big 6 as the best clubs in England and giving them an unjustly large say in the future of football in the UK.

Aren’t Everyone one of the nine though?

I believe they are but as I said only 6 of the nine teams need to agree to get something implemented. Everton are also no where near as big as the traditional top 6 are globally or financially so their very current success is still a threat to the status quo I would imagine the big 6 are trying to restore.

We’re going to end up with a football equivalent of the World Series.

I don’t think so. They aren’t stopping promotion and relegation.

They are talking about significant money for the EFL. Reducing the premier league to the same amount of teams as most top tier European leagues.

The FFP rules I have concerns about as it seems like they are looking to make it a closed shop.

its flat put anti football
not stopping promotion well they might as well without parachute payments.

How are parachute payments fair?

They are distributing money to all the clubs rather than a select few. I can’t see how that is unfair.

ive always thought them extremely fair,, and fairness was the reason they were introduced in the first place... without them there would be a real chance relegated clubs would collapse financially..

We’re going to end up with a football equivalent of the World Series.

I don’t think so. They aren’t stopping promotion and relegation.

They are talking about significant money for the EFL. Reducing the premier league to the same amount of teams as most top tier European leagues.

The FFP rules I have concerns about as it seems like they are looking to make it a closed shop.

its flat put anti football
not stopping promotion well they might as well without parachute payments.

How are parachute payments fair?

They are distributing money to all the clubs rather than a select few. I can’t see how that is unfair.

ive always thought them extremely fair,, and fairness was the reason they were introduced in the first place... without them there would be a real chance relegated clubs would collapse financially..

Always gives the teams coming down an advantage over the other championship teams I thought.

I hated it until Cardiff starting getting them.

Man City, Southampton, Wolves, Leeds have all played in Div One in the last 15 or so years, their achievements in getting back to the Premier Division will never be replicated if this plan goes through. With no parachute payments no promoted clubs will ever be able to compete and the league will be less competitive and be a lose its appeal.
It is no surprise to me that this is being pushed by American Billionaire owners. EFL clubs cannot see beyond the £250 as they are so desperate for cash.if 2 teams are lost from the premier league and all the other leagues remain the same size Two teams have to be lost somewhere. A Salary cap might work in the bottom leagues but would be difficult to implement in the Championship and could even push up overall wages.

This plan is a Trojan horse and once the gates are open they will never be closed and football will be the loser and big clubs the winners.

I'm taking the scrapping of the parachute payments as that they won't be spread out over a number of years, like they are now. Surely you'll still get all the money you're entitled to from promotion?

With parachute payments club can expect 180m + if dont get promoted for 3yrs after relegation ..... otherwise it's around 110m without parachute depending on where you finish and tv appearances.

We’re going to end up with a football equivalent of the World Series.

I don’t think so. They aren’t stopping promotion and relegation.

They are talking about significant money for the EFL. Reducing the premier league to the same amount of teams as most top tier European leagues.

The FFP rules I have concerns about as it seems like they are looking to make it a closed shop.

its flat put anti football
not stopping promotion well they might as well without parachute payments.

How are parachute payments fair?

They are distributing money to all the clubs rather than a select few. I can’t see how that is unfair.

ive always thought them extremely fair,, and fairness was the reason they were introduced in the first place... without them there would be a real chance relegated clubs would collapse financially..

Always gives the teams coming down an advantage over the other championship teams I thought.

I hated it until Cardiff starting getting them.

how on earth do you even try to compete without them... this year your running a business with a 100 mill plus turnover then on the last day of the season its nothing ...how can that possibly work, be reasonable or fair.. and is it an advantage ? our division is full of clubs who were once in the prem { i think its 20 of the 24 }