Over 7000 cases a day, it's spreading faster !!!

Not at the rate infections are rising daily!

mate if it got to 20k a day it would still take about 10 years....well 9.3 years actually...
hide for 9 years just in case your a one in 1700 ... seriously ?

Unchecked 20K a day would be in less than three weeks, you are just assuming the numbers don't increase every day without any measures in place, the rate of increase is why the virus is so serious, the measures are there to stop it spreading!

There seems to be no media coverage of ages / health conditions of those who are dying in the second wave, completely unlike the coverage (particularly from the bbc) during the first wave. Does this mean that most are 80+ and or have current illnesses that add to the COVID?
There certainly doesn’t seem to be the widespread threat to everyone from all ages that we were seeing on the news back in March.

According to Boris and his two advisers yesterday, the increase in infections were initially in the younger age groups, but in recent days, more people in older age groups are becoming infected. This will eventually result in an increase in hospitalisation and possible deaths.
What also concerns me is the growing support of the anti-lockdown groups which we saw in London over last weekend. Not only were they gathering in large numbers without masks for the rally; they were being lectured to by people such as Jeremy Corbyn's brother, Piers along with the controversial David Icke and his son Gareth. If these people don't wish to take the vaccine if and when it arrives, I agree it should be their choice; but to brainwash the congregation into removing face coverings in all settings and do away with social distancing is criminal. These people truly believe that the lockdowns are all part of some 'alternative agenda' without explaining what can be gained by this.

you need an explanation for what the agenda might be..
but accept an explanation that includes we best start locking down ..because 900 people died in the UK ..with and not necessarily of covid in the last 2 months... out of 80kplus that died of all causes in the last 2 months.. thats roughly 1 covid death out of every 90 deaths
or it not explained why a country has ruined its economy and health service for 40k deaths when we normally get over 600k a year..which translates to a village of 1700 pple that would ordinarily have 16/17 deaths a year might now have 1 more death..might because the 1 is most likely to be older than the age of life expectancy and have multiple illnesses and could well have been one of the original deaths anyway... the numbers are all online and all on government sites..
brainwashed for being able to count ? jeez .
keep mask wearing and keep scaremongering..

Are you are saying that we should remove the face coverings in built up indoor environments and do away with the social distancing? In other words, you agree with the speakers at the London rally? Both sides of the debate are full of statistics but I'm just interested in what people think we should do.

Too many selfish , David Icke followers in the world in afraid. I just hope they don't kill your parents or grandparents or you/immediate family.

Waste of time trying to educate anybody mate. A lot think its a lie, some blame gov before looking at themselves and others are just Icke followers

David Icke predicted the destroying of the economy last year way before this virus came.

we had a massive debt problem before this year which cant be covered, this will destroy all the western economies.

i think it may be planned. i cant see how we dont have total collaspe on society by the time its all over.

Waste of time trying to educate anybody mate. A lot think its a lie, some blame gov before looking at themselves and others are just Icke followers

David Icke predicted the destroying of the economy last year way before this virus came.

we had a massive debt problem before this year which cant be covered, this will destroy all the western economies.

i think it may be planned. i cant see how we dont have total collaspe on society by the time its all over.

Icke also said natural disasters would cause new Zealand to disappear in 1997. Let alone his theory about the moon and aliens. I think its safe to say you might want a pinch of salt with his statements and predictions.

Not at the rate infections are rising daily!

mate if it got to 20k a day it would still take about 10 years....well 9.3 years actually...
hide for 9 years just in case your a one in 1700 ... seriously ?

Unchecked 20K a day would be in less than three weeks, you are just assuming the numbers don't increase every day without any measures in place, the rate of increase is why the virus is so serious, the measures are there to stop it spreading!

Said be 50k by oct now saying wont be? At times looks as if pluck numbers from lottery machine and us them to give the figures!

Not at the rate infections are rising daily!

mate if it got to 20k a day it would still take about 10 years....well 9.3 years actually...
hide for 9 years just in case your a one in 1700 ... seriously ?

We’ve just got to 22k infections in a day, much quicker than the 9 years you predicted.

Not at the rate infections are rising daily!

mate if it got to 20k a day it would still take about 10 years....well 9.3 years actually...
hide for 9 years just in case your a one in 1700 ... seriously ?

We’ve just got to 22k infections in a day, much quicker than the 9 years you predicted.

Thats with a a virtual lockdown, imagine without distancing, handwashing, facemasks, flight travel restrictions, it would fly up!

Not at the rate infections are rising daily!

mate if it got to 20k a day it would still take about 10 years....well 9.3 years actually...
hide for 9 years just in case your a one in 1700 ... seriously ?

We’ve just got to 22k infections in a day, much quicker than the 9 years you predicted.

Thats with a a virtual lockdown, imagine without distancing, handwashing, facemasks, flight travel restrictions, it would fly up!

It's easier for some people to bury their head and believe all the conspiracy nonsense than to face reality. The way this is going we will be in full lockdown before the end of October with Bojo, Whitty and Vallance back on the TV at 5pm.

It's a deeply unpleasant feeling but there we are.

Not at the rate infections are rising daily!

mate if it got to 20k a day it would still take about 10 years....well 9.3 years actually...
hide for 9 years just in case your a one in 1700 ... seriously ?

We’ve just got to 22k infections in a day, much quicker than the 9 years you predicted.

Thats with a a virtual lockdown, imagine without distancing, handwashing, facemasks, flight travel restrictions, it would fly up!

It's easier for some people to bury their head and believe all the conspiracy nonsense than to face reality. The way this is going we will be in full lockdown before the end of October with Bojo, Whitty and Vallance back on the TV at 5pm.

It's a deeply unpleasant feeling but there we are.

We could easily turn this around and avoid a full lockdown, but I'm not sure enough people will take it seriously enough, Paris is closing pubs and cafes for the next two weeks, if it keeps going up I think thats what we will do next.

Not at the rate infections are rising daily!

mate if it got to 20k a day it would still take about 10 years....well 9.3 years actually...
hide for 9 years just in case your a one in 1700 ... seriously ?

Next week probably with much stricter measures, it’s right back already unfortunately!

Not at the rate infections are rising daily!

mate if it got to 20k a day it would still take about 10 years....well 9.3 years actually...
hide for 9 years just in case your a one in 1700 ... seriously ?

Next week probably with much stricter measures, it’s right back already unfortunately!

So full lockdown would appear to be the only way to control the virus until a vaccine is available?

Let's say that takes six months.

Then the vaccine has to be administered. Let's say only the most vulnerable are given it initially - how long would it take to do that - say two months. During that time lockdown will have to continue.

Then lockdown will need to remain until we can be sure that the vaccine actually works for the vulnerable - say another six months.

Then we have to vaccinate the rest of the population - how long would that take? A couple of years?

And then we have to keep our fingers crossed for the next five, ten, twenty years that the vaccine that has been rushed through has no serious life threatening side effects.

All this time we are determined to make sure the NHS is not overrun so hundreds of thousands of people will die directly or indirectly from the lockdowns but at least we'll be keeping the infection rate and death from this virus under control.

We have to learn to live with this virus - it's not going away. We're not going to cure it. We're never going to "control" it. We've had a flu vaccine for years now and yet thousands of people still die from flu every year. Unfortunately they tend to be the oldest and weakest and it will be the same with this virus - sad but true.

Even with a vaccine this virus will continue to kill people. We have to accept that - take what steps we can to protect the vulnerable without completely altering the way we live for something that will never be eradicated but fortunately will not kill over 99% of the people who contract it.

Not at the rate infections are rising daily!

mate if it got to 20k a day it would still take about 10 years....well 9.3 years actually...
hide for 9 years just in case your a one in 1700 ... seriously ?

Next week probably with much stricter measures, it’s right back already unfortunately!

So full lockdown would appear to be the only way to control the virus until a vaccine is available?

Let's say that takes six months.

Then the vaccine has to be administered. Let's say only the most vulnerable are given it initially - how long would it take to do that - say two months. During that time lockdown will have to continue.

Then lockdown will need to remain until we can be sure that the vaccine actually works for the vulnerable - say another six months.

Then we have to vaccinate the rest of the population - how long would that take? A couple of years?

And then we have to keep our fingers crossed for the next five, ten, twenty years that the vaccine that has been rushed through has no serious life threatening side effects.

All this time we are determined to make sure the NHS is not overrun so hundreds of thousands of people will die directly or indirectly from the lockdowns but at least we'll be keeping the infection rate and death from this virus under control.

We have to learn to live with this virus - it's not going away. We're not going to cure it. We're never going to "control" it. We've had a flu vaccine for years now and yet thousands of people still die from flu every year. Unfortunately they tend to be the oldest and weakest and it will be the same with this virus - sad but true.

Even with a vaccine this virus will continue to kill people. We have to accept that - take what steps we can to protect the vulnerable without completely altering the way we live for something that will never be eradicated but fortunately will not kill over 99% of the people who contract it.

far too much sense...
none of the above ever gets mentioned mate.. its shall we make the bubble 6 people or 7..and should we go for 10.30 or 11 pm... no long term plan just this siliness about getting numbers down to ease off to have numbers rise again...

Waste of time trying to educate anybody mate. A lot think its a lie, some blame gov before looking at themselves and others are just Icke followers

David Icke predicted the destroying of the economy last year way before this virus came.

we had a massive debt problem before this year which cant be covered, this will destroy all the western economies.

i think it may be planned. i cant see how we dont have total collaspe on society by the time its all over.

Planned by China or Russia? One of them has released this to ruin the western states economies if you listen to the conspiracy theories, the former appearing to be the front runner at the moment. Strange how the virus has seemingly disappeared in China? People clubbing in wuhan? What’s that about?

Not at the rate infections are rising daily!

mate if it got to 20k a day it would still take about 10 years....well 9.3 years actually...
hide for 9 years just in case your a one in 1700 ... seriously ?

Next week probably with much stricter measures, it’s right back already unfortunately!

So full lockdown would appear to be the only way to control the virus until a vaccine is available?

Let's say that takes six months.

Then the vaccine has to be administered. Let's say only the most vulnerable are given it initially - how long would it take to do that - say two months. During that time lockdown will have to continue.

Then lockdown will need to remain until we can be sure that the vaccine actually works for the vulnerable - say another six months.

Then we have to vaccinate the rest of the population - how long would that take? A couple of years?

And then we have to keep our fingers crossed for the next five, ten, twenty years that the vaccine that has been rushed through has no serious life threatening side effects.

All this time we are determined to make sure the NHS is not overrun so hundreds of thousands of people will die directly or indirectly from the lockdowns but at least we'll be keeping the infection rate and death from this virus under control.

We have to learn to live with this virus - it's not going away. We're not going to cure it. We're never going to "control" it. We've had a flu vaccine for years now and yet thousands of people still die from flu every year. Unfortunately they tend to be the oldest and weakest and it will be the same with this virus - sad but true.

Even with a vaccine this virus will continue to kill people. We have to accept that - take what steps we can to protect the vulnerable without completely altering the way we live for something that will never be eradicated but fortunately will not kill over 99% of the people who contract it.

Bang on....couldn’t have put it better myself. The old have flu jabs every year yet 3 years ago 30,000 died of it anyway.
No lockdown, no ruined economy, no 1000’s missing cancer scans, more suicides, no more bullshit.....

Coronavirus cases "increased rapidly" in the UK at the end of September, a survey suggests, with up to one in 240 people being infected in the week up to 1 October. Scientific advisors to the government warn the country is "very close" to the levels of hospital admissions seen in March.

Not at the rate infections are rising daily!

mate if it got to 20k a day it would still take about 10 years....well 9.3 years actually...
hide for 9 years just in case your a one in 1700 ... seriously ?

Next week probably with much stricter measures, it’s right back already unfortunately!

So full lockdown would appear to be the only way to control the virus until a vaccine is available?

Let's say that takes six months.

Then the vaccine has to be administered. Let's say only the most vulnerable are given it initially - how long would it take to do that - say two months. During that time lockdown will have to continue.

Then lockdown will need to remain until we can be sure that the vaccine actually works for the vulnerable - say another six months.

Then we have to vaccinate the rest of the population - how long would that take? A couple of years?

And then we have to keep our fingers crossed for the next five, ten, twenty years that the vaccine that has been rushed through has no serious life threatening side effects.

All this time we are determined to make sure the NHS is not overrun so hundreds of thousands of people will die directly or indirectly from the lockdowns but at least we'll be keeping the infection rate and death from this virus under control.

We have to learn to live with this virus - it's not going away. We're not going to cure it. We're never going to "control" it. We've had a flu vaccine for years now and yet thousands of people still die from flu every year. Unfortunately they tend to be the oldest and weakest and it will be the same with this virus - sad but true.

Even with a vaccine this virus will continue to kill people. We have to accept that - take what steps we can to protect the vulnerable without completely altering the way we live for something that will never be eradicated but fortunately will not kill over 99% of the people who contract it.

We can't have another full lockdown, things have moved on, treatment is much more advanced and fewer thankfully will now die. We obviously can't let it rip either, we will have to continue with a stepped lockdown, in the manner that we are at the moment, pubs may eventually have to shut for the six months, but work and schools must continue, and hopefully most other shops and business's.

We all know it's a decision between health and the economy and peoples mental health is an issue, it is a dangerous virus, the elderly and sick, will see that and most sensible ones will start to take less risk. It's a hell of a job, i don't blame the different governments even the scientists can't all agree?

Not at the rate infections are rising daily!

mate if it got to 20k a day it would still take about 10 years....well 9.3 years actually...
hide for 9 years just in case your a one in 1700 ... seriously ?

Next week probably with much stricter measures, it’s right back already unfortunately!

So full lockdown would appear to be the only way to control the virus until a vaccine is available?

Let's say that takes six months.

Then the vaccine has to be administered. Let's say only the most vulnerable are given it initially - how long would it take to do that - say two months. During that time lockdown will have to continue.

Then lockdown will need to remain until we can be sure that the vaccine actually works for the vulnerable - say another six months.

Then we have to vaccinate the rest of the population - how long would that take? A couple of years?

And then we have to keep our fingers crossed for the next five, ten, twenty years that the vaccine that has been rushed through has no serious life threatening side effects.

All this time we are determined to make sure the NHS is not overrun so hundreds of thousands of people will die directly or indirectly from the lockdowns but at least we'll be keeping the infection rate and death from this virus under control.

We have to learn to live with this virus - it's not going away. We're not going to cure it. We're never going to "control" it. We've had a flu vaccine for years now and yet thousands of people still die from flu every year. Unfortunately they tend to be the oldest and weakest and it will be the same with this virus - sad but true.

Even with a vaccine this virus will continue to kill people. We have to accept that - take what steps we can to protect the vulnerable without completely altering the way we live for something that will never be eradicated but fortunately will not kill over 99% of the people who contract it.

far too much sense...
none of the above ever gets mentioned mate.. its shall we make the bubble 6 people or 7..and should we go for 10.30 or 11 pm... no long term plan just this siliness about getting numbers down to ease off to have numbers rise again...

I 2nd that,a very good post I said a few months back,we will have localised lockdowns for a long time to come,as you point out,they will quell the numbers,open up,numbers rise again,lockdown,and repeat

And all these experts who said we should change tack?? Completely ignored!! I have a vulnerable mother, who has been isolated for 9 mths of her life already,she has deterioration mentally,when she should be enjoying her twilight years,not be locked up alone!

I guess all these 7000 are conspicacy theorists too,according to some posters

Not at the rate infections are rising daily!

mate if it got to 20k a day it would still take about 10 years....well 9.3 years actually...
hide for 9 years just in case your a one in 1700 ... seriously ?

Next week probably with much stricter measures, it’s right back already unfortunately!

So full lockdown would appear to be the only way to control the virus until a vaccine is available?

Let's say that takes six months.

Then the vaccine has to be administered. Let's say only the most vulnerable are given it initially - how long would it take to do that - say two months. During that time lockdown will have to continue.

Then lockdown will need to remain until we can be sure that the vaccine actually works for the vulnerable - say another six months.

Then we have to vaccinate the rest of the population - how long would that take? A couple of years?

And then we have to keep our fingers crossed for the next five, ten, twenty years that the vaccine that has been rushed through has no serious life threatening side effects.

All this time we are determined to make sure the NHS is not overrun so hundreds of thousands of people will die directly or indirectly from the lockdowns but at least we'll be keeping the infection rate and death from this virus under control.

We have to learn to live with this virus - it's not going away. We're not going to cure it. We're never going to "control" it. We've had a flu vaccine for years now and yet thousands of people still die from flu every year. Unfortunately they tend to be the oldest and weakest and it will be the same with this virus - sad but true.

Even with a vaccine this virus will continue to kill people. We have to accept that - take what steps we can to protect the vulnerable without completely altering the way we live for something that will never be eradicated but fortunately will not kill over 99% of the people who contract it.

far too much sense...
none of the above ever gets mentioned mate.. its shall we make the bubble 6 people or 7..and should we go for 10.30 or 11 pm... no long term plan just this siliness about getting numbers down to ease off to have numbers rise again...

I 2nd that,a very good post I said a few months back,we will have localised lockdowns for a long time to come,as you point out,they will quell the numbers,open up,numbers rise again,lockdown,and repeat

And all these experts who said we should change tack?? Completely ignored!! I have a vulnerable mother, who has been isolated for 9 mths of her life already,she has deterioration mentally,when she should be enjoying her twilight years,not be locked up alone!

I guess all these 7000 are conspicacy theorists too,according to some posters

my mother in law.. who the whole family thought hadnt long back in March tells my wife on the phone every day how miserable it is since everyone stopped going there... its not that nobody at all goes there but the footfall in what was a busy house is down massively to what it once was.. and ive spoken with a couple of older people who have said whats the point if you can not see those you love .... i voted back to normal.. most people are careful enough with the old and frail anyway without imprisoning the further...

I'm really scared. Petrified infact. And now flu season is coming too. We're all basically dead.

I'm really scared. Petrified infact. And now flu season is coming too. We're all basically dead.

flu dont count mate..apparently its 2 lem sips and sorted...
besides it cant be serious because none of the mongers are putting numbers of flu infections or league tables up ..

I'm really scared. Petrified infact. And now flu season is coming too. We're all basically dead.

flu dont count mate..apparently its 2 lem sips and sorted...
besides it cant be serious because none of the mongers are putting numbers of flu infections or league tables up ..

they are not even promoting vitamin D which we know will help the immune system against viruses , everyone especially over 50 should be taking it, but they cant make money out of vitamin d which is why media ignore its benefits, lets be honest anyone who thinks the media class give a shit about the poor public should be in a padded cell.

Coronavirus: Bangor enters local lockdown restrictions

Wales is "close to a tipping point" with the number of coronavirus cases rising rapidly across parts of the country, the first minister has said.

Mark Drakeford said the number of patients with suspected or confirmed Covid in hospital had gone up "steadily over the last couple of weeks".

"We're heading back to the sorts of demands on the health service that we saw earlier in the year," he said.

People in 17 areas of Wales now face local lockdown rules due to the virus.

A total of 1,669 people in Wales have died with Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, according to figures published by Public Health Wales on Sunday.

It also said 30,121 people have tested positive for the virus, with 467 new cases reported on Sunday.

England's deputy chief medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam has said the seasons were "against us" and the country was running into a "headwind" due to mounting cases.

Wales is "close to a tipping point" with the number of coronavirus cases rising rapidly across parts of the country, the first minister has said.

Mark Drakeford said the number of patients with suspected or confirmed Covid in hospital had gone up "steadily over the last couple of weeks".

"We're heading back to the sorts of demands on the health service that we saw earlier in the year," he said.

People in 17 areas of Wales now face local lockdown rules due to the virus.

A total of 1,669 people in Wales have died with Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, according to figures published by Public Health Wales on Sunday.

It also said 30,121 people have tested positive for the virus, with 467 new cases reported on Sunday.

England's deputy chief medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam has said the seasons were "against us" and the country was running into a "headwind" due to mounting cases.

Boris just said there are more people with Covid in hospital now that there were in March when we went into lockdown

Wales is "close to a tipping point" with the number of coronavirus cases rising rapidly across parts of the country, the first minister has said.

Mark Drakeford said the number of patients with suspected or confirmed Covid in hospital had gone up "steadily over the last couple of weeks".

"We're heading back to the sorts of demands on the health service that we saw earlier in the year," he said.

People in 17 areas of Wales now face local lockdown rules due to the virus.

A total of 1,669 people in Wales have died with Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, according to figures published by Public Health Wales on Sunday.

It also said 30,121 people have tested positive for the virus, with 467 new cases reported on Sunday.

England's deputy chief medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam has said the seasons were "against us" and the country was running into a "headwind" due to mounting cases.

Boris just said there are more people with Covid in hospital now that there were in March when we went into lockdown

He's a complete and utter brainless tw*t.
They built all these extra hospitals to cope with a 'second wave', yetare now puting anyone with a symptom of Covid into exisiting hospitals - replacing beds urgently needed for cancer etc.

Wales is "close to a tipping point" with the number of coronavirus cases rising rapidly across parts of the country, the first minister has said.

Mark Drakeford said the number of patients with suspected or confirmed Covid in hospital had gone up "steadily over the last couple of weeks".

"We're heading back to the sorts of demands on the health service that we saw earlier in the year," he said.

People in 17 areas of Wales now face local lockdown rules due to the virus.

A total of 1,669 people in Wales have died with Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, according to figures published by Public Health Wales on Sunday.

It also said 30,121 people have tested positive for the virus, with 467 new cases reported on Sunday.

England's deputy chief medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam has said the seasons were "against us" and the country was running into a "headwind" due to mounting cases.

Boris just said there are more people with Covid in hospital now that there were in March when we went into lockdown

He's a complete and utter brainless tw*t.
They built all these extra hospitals to cope with a 'second wave', yetare now puting anyone with a symptom of Covid into exisiting hospitals - replacing beds urgently needed for cancer etc.

Strange one this, it does make sense to use the covid specific hospitals first and keep as many of the existing hospitals covid free for as long as they can?

I can't see how they would have staffed the extra hospitals anyway though, if the Heath Hospital was full, where would they get extra Doctors and nurses to work in the millennium stadium or the other way around?

I know they could have used some army medics and St johns etc but it would never have been enough anyway.

Wales is "close to a tipping point" with the number of coronavirus cases rising rapidly across parts of the country, the first minister has said.

Mark Drakeford said the number of patients with suspected or confirmed Covid in hospital had gone up "steadily over the last couple of weeks".

"We're heading back to the sorts of demands on the health service that we saw earlier in the year," he said.

People in 17 areas of Wales now face local lockdown rules due to the virus.

A total of 1,669 people in Wales have died with Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, according to figures published by Public Health Wales on Sunday.

It also said 30,121 people have tested positive for the virus, with 467 new cases reported on Sunday.

England's deputy chief medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam has said the seasons were "against us" and the country was running into a "headwind" due to mounting cases.

Boris just said there are more people with Covid in hospital now that there were in March when we went into lockdown

tbh id be more shocked if that wasnt the case,,,, 877 infections and 69 deaths the day we locked down 13,972 today... 16 times as many...but they use whatever suits them... would they have locked down having 50 deaths a day if infections had been 14k ..i doubt it... it looked as if it might be 20 times as deadly as it does now...

Wales is "close to a tipping point" with the number of coronavirus cases rising rapidly across parts of the country, the first minister has said.

Mark Drakeford said the number of patients with suspected or confirmed Covid in hospital had gone up "steadily over the last couple of weeks".

"We're heading back to the sorts of demands on the health service that we saw earlier in the year," he said.

People in 17 areas of Wales now face local lockdown rules due to the virus.

A total of 1,669 people in Wales have died with Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, according to figures published by Public Health Wales on Sunday.

It also said 30,121 people have tested positive for the virus, with 467 new cases reported on Sunday.

England's deputy chief medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam has said the seasons were "against us" and the country was running into a "headwind" due to mounting cases.

Boris just said there are more people with Covid in hospital now that there were in March when we went into lockdown

tbh id be more shocked if that wasnt the case,,,, 877 infections and 69 deaths the day we locked down 13,972 today... 16 times as many...but they use whatever suits them... would they have locked down having 50 deaths a day if infections had been 14k ..i doubt it... it looked as if it might be 20 times as deadly as it does now...

Boris is going against Whitty and Van-Tam, they wanted a full circuit break lockdown 3 or 4 weeks ago, and still feel level three lockdowns not enough. Good for him we have to take care but still allow people some freedom to make their own decisions, and trying and keep the economy ticking over as much as possible.

Drakeford has also written to him with an ultimatum, stop the English from high risk areas coming into low risk welsh districts or we will, the little tin pot dictator

Drakeford and Krankie will go higher than tier three measures for sure!

Wales is "close to a tipping point" with the number of coronavirus cases rising rapidly across parts of the country, the first minister has said.

Mark Drakeford said the number of patients with suspected or confirmed Covid in hospital had gone up "steadily over the last couple of weeks".

"We're heading back to the sorts of demands on the health service that we saw earlier in the year," he said.

People in 17 areas of Wales now face local lockdown rules due to the virus.

A total of 1,669 people in Wales have died with Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, according to figures published by Public Health Wales on Sunday.

It also said 30,121 people have tested positive for the virus, with 467 new cases reported on Sunday.

England's deputy chief medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam has said the seasons were "against us" and the country was running into a "headwind" due to mounting cases.

Boris just said there are more people with Covid in hospital now that there were in March when we went into lockdown

tbh id be more shocked if that wasnt the case,,,, 877 infections and 69 deaths the day we locked down 13,972 today... 16 times as many...but they use whatever suits them... would they have locked down having 50 deaths a day if infections had been 14k ..i doubt it... it looked as if it might be 20 times as deadly as it does now...

Boris is going against Whitty and Van-Tam, they wanted a full circuit break lockdown 3 or 4 weeks ago, and still feel level three lockdowns not enough. Good for him we have to take care but still allow people some freedom to make their own decisions, and trying and keep the economy ticking over as much as possible.

Drakeford has also written to him with an ultimatum, stop the English from high risk areas coming into low risk welsh districts or we will, the little tin pot dictator

Drakeford and Krankie will go higher than tier three measures for sure!

they do not have a long term plan. its all hit and hope that things fall right...