" Prime Minister Boris Johnson bans gatherings of 6+ "

Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?
It is the EU and Ireland that want to maintain their protectionist borders and control everything going in and out of there.
If they want to stop items going into Ireland it is their problem, so their cost and their right to do that. It is not the UK saying put border controls and monitor imports/exports.

As for fish, tell the coastal communities whose lives depend on fishing that it does not matter. We used to have a thriving coastal community until the EU and it's Common Fisheries Policy destroyed it. The French take 6x what the UK do from the English Channel, in designated UK waters. If it is so insignificant and not important why are the EU demanding access to it? What about Greenpeace criticising the destruction of Special Protected Areas, located in UK waters, by EU Supertrawlers?
It is irrelevant if we do not eat the fish, as our fishermen can catch them and export them, so making a good living for our people and country. If they are not caught as there is no demand then the environment and fish stocks will improve.

Why wouldn't businesses be prepared to trade on WTO terms? Like the majority of the world currently do. Any good responsible intelligent businessman has made arrangements (as told to by the Government). This is not the incompetent bureaucratic public services, civil service, council, NHS etc we are talking about.

Holland gets a lot of medicines from this country and have already said they are worried we will not supply them. We on the other hand can trade with the rest of the world without the EU constraints and artificially overpricing of drugs, food, car parts etc.
I do not know any Brexiteers who have applied for EU passports, or any Remainers either for that matter, despite their crying, project fear etc and threats to do so. Even they know we will be better off as a free sovereign nation, making laws that benefit our country. I bet even those who have applied for EU passports have applied for a dual passport so they can come running back to the UK when things go wrong over there (as they will) or they need medical care or benefit handouts.

As for the completely stupid comment that people will starve or even die because of Brexit shows a weak uneducated character, and someone who obviously cannot function without being told what to do for themselves. This country survived for centuries without the "protection, support and health care" of the EU.

'Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?' Why is it up to the UK to put up a UK border? Suppose that makes the 'control our borders' line more leave bollocks.

I'm not saying fishing doesn't matter but promoting something that makes up 0.1% of our economy to a huge issue is nonsensical. Brexit will damage loads of bigger industries but you're ignoring that. They won't be able tojust export the fish as they do now as we'll have massive queues. You do know why they're building huge lorry parks around the UK?

The majority of countries don't trade on wto terms. There are 135 non EU countries and 105 of them have some sort of deal. Why don't you name one which doesn't?
8 of the largest haulage firms have recently complained about how the ports aren't ready and the government hasn't given details but you blame them because their crystal ball can't tell if Johnsons oven ready deal was another lie (obviously it was).

Since the brexit vote emigration to the EU has increased. Brexiteers moving: Dyson, Stanley Johnson is getting passports for his family, farage has said he'll leave if brexit is bad, Jacob Rees mong has moved assets to Ireland... I think rats leaving a sinking ship is an adequate phrase.

Medicine and food shortages will happen with a no deal brexit. No one should be denying that. You can either listen to: the government (who did stockpile medicine recently for the original brexit deadline... Wonder why?), the NHS, businesses, and experts OR just keep your fingers in your ears and pretend you weren't lied to.

We were told bodies will pile up on the street, we’ll run out of drinking water and bizarrely enough Dutch sperm for ivf. Wasn’t aware Farrage has said he’ll leave have you got a source for that?
Corbyn said if he got into power he’d “smash globalism, smash capitalism and smash the EU” there are plenty of trade deals to be cut outside the failing protectionist EU block. Personally I voted leave for my kids and grandkids, expecting short term pain for long term gain, what I didn’t anticipate was the absolute refusal of Remainiacs to accept a democratic vote from the British People.

Don't remember the bodies claim but here's farage saying his claim: https://consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectCon ... 3c19852447
I assume you don't know of any countries who trade on wto terms then.

How long will this 'short term pain' be? What will it constitute? How much of it will YOU accept?

The ultimate form of democracy, a vague question on an advisory referendum with a tight result that has been taken to an extreme even though the people at the time said that would never happen and have been found out to have broken the law multiple times and lied about pretty much everything.

You might want to wait a few decades to have kids, your grand children might have a sporting chance by the time they're born.

WTO terms of trade are fine, they are the basis of world trade (hence the names World and Trade in the title).

You seem to have problems with facts. just vague bigoted assumptions.
Farage said if Brexit is a disaster he will leave the UK. So would many others if the remainer Government of Theresa May and Parliament, had had their way, and just surrendered to the EU's bullying and punishment for daring to leave their ideologically flawed experiment.
NOTICE (or did you fail to mention?) he never said he would go and live in the EU did he?
Infact his plan (and job offers came in), would have been to go to the USA.

The EU referendum was not vague, as Farage ensured it wasn't (initially the questions were vague or could be misconstrued).
But Farage ensured it was an easy YES or NO. No ambiguity there. What is vague about YES or NO?
Everyone knew what they were voting for. To leave the EU and it's corrupt bankrupt controlling influence.
The remainers believe they are far more superior and intelligent (obviously not) and cannot accept defeat. Even PIers Morgan (a remainer) says we should leave now, as he accepts the democratic decision of the British people.

It was not advisory as the remainers said so. Labour fought a general election promising to accept the vote of the people. Then back tracked and lied by doing everything to stop it. At least the Lib Dems always said they would not accept any result other than the one they wanted.
Ireland, Holland and France all had referendums about EU integration and the EU refused to accept any of them as they all were for less integration and against Brussels control.

All claims of breaking the law and lying against the Leave campaign were unfounded and proven so in courts to be smear attacks from the losers (remainers/anti democracy people).
The remain side vastly overspent and even had someone committing fraud in their name. One of their leaders, Gina Miller, is a proven liar and was only promoting herself, and her dodgy company.
The EU and remainers lied about further integration, creating an EU army etc.

I have kids, and business interests in the EU thanks, so I am well aware of the corrupt bureaucracy of the EU and some of it's members. All new ventures may have short term problems, cash flow, but long term are a great success, as the UK will prove to be, whether it is 2 years or 10 years is irrelevant now (COVID 19). At least our money will not be propping up the failed EU.

When he gets into EU politics he is blind as a bat and only sees his side if the equation ? Hes a Staunch remainer and doesnt accept he lost a democratic vote ! Pointless arguing really as it's like talking to roathy..

No need to worry, If you’re caught just say you were "breaking the law in a specific and limited way". If it’s acceptable for our good and honest government I’m sure us plebs will be fine

Idiotic comparison. Fekk the EU they want to punish and hurt our country. These anti covid measures are designed to protect the citizens of this country.

So if I disagree with a law and think breaking it could benefit me then I should be allowed to do it? Also don’t you think the fact our government are so willing and so openly breaking international law could set a dangerous precedent in the future?

No because it’s been done loads of times in the past. The narrative pushed by our broadcast media is decent honest EU negotiators sneaky Torres. Truth is Barnier and co have threatened to deny us 3rd country status in the case of a No Deal, something that we thought was a given.

Given choice over believing boris or barnier/EU
Take boris for all his faults! EU are slimy and treat uk as 2nd class citizens when comes to
EU rules and regulations and will screw us for what they can...[/quote


Ahem to that , I don't understand all the Europe love in they dislike us , have no intention of agreeing anything, so stick it to them Boris .

Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?
It is the EU and Ireland that want to maintain their protectionist borders and control everything going in and out of there.
If they want to stop items going into Ireland it is their problem, so their cost and their right to do that. It is not the UK saying put border controls and monitor imports/exports.

As for fish, tell the coastal communities whose lives depend on fishing that it does not matter. We used to have a thriving coastal community until the EU and it's Common Fisheries Policy destroyed it. The French take 6x what the UK do from the English Channel, in designated UK waters. If it is so insignificant and not important why are the EU demanding access to it? What about Greenpeace criticising the destruction of Special Protected Areas, located in UK waters, by EU Supertrawlers?
It is irrelevant if we do not eat the fish, as our fishermen can catch them and export them, so making a good living for our people and country. If they are not caught as there is no demand then the environment and fish stocks will improve.

Why wouldn't businesses be prepared to trade on WTO terms? Like the majority of the world currently do. Any good responsible intelligent businessman has made arrangements (as told to by the Government). This is not the incompetent bureaucratic public services, civil service, council, NHS etc we are talking about.

Holland gets a lot of medicines from this country and have already said they are worried we will not supply them. We on the other hand can trade with the rest of the world without the EU constraints and artificially overpricing of drugs, food, car parts etc.
I do not know any Brexiteers who have applied for EU passports, or any Remainers either for that matter, despite their crying, project fear etc and threats to do so. Even they know we will be better off as a free sovereign nation, making laws that benefit our country. I bet even those who have applied for EU passports have applied for a dual passport so they can come running back to the UK when things go wrong over there (as they will) or they need medical care or benefit handouts.

As for the completely stupid comment that people will starve or even die because of Brexit shows a weak uneducated character, and someone who obviously cannot function without being told what to do for themselves. This country survived for centuries without the "protection, support and health care" of the EU.

'Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?' Why is it up to the UK to put up a UK border? Suppose that makes the 'control our borders' line more leave bollocks.

I'm not saying fishing doesn't matter but promoting something that makes up 0.1% of our economy to a huge issue is nonsensical. Brexit will damage loads of bigger industries but you're ignoring that. They won't be able tojust export the fish as they do now as we'll have massive queues. You do know why they're building huge lorry parks around the UK?

The majority of countries don't trade on wto terms. There are 135 non EU countries and 105 of them have some sort of deal. Why don't you name one which doesn't?
8 of the largest haulage firms have recently complained about how the ports aren't ready and the government hasn't given details but you blame them because their crystal ball can't tell if Johnsons oven ready deal was another lie (obviously it was).

Since the brexit vote emigration to the EU has increased. Brexiteers moving: Dyson, Stanley Johnson is getting passports for his family, farage has said he'll leave if brexit is bad, Jacob Rees mong has moved assets to Ireland... I think rats leaving a sinking ship is an adequate phrase.

Medicine and food shortages will happen with a no deal brexit. No one should be denying that. You can either listen to: the government (who did stockpile medicine recently for the original brexit deadline... Wonder why?), the NHS, businesses, and experts OR just keep your fingers in your ears and pretend you weren't lied to.

We were told bodies will pile up on the street, we’ll run out of drinking water and bizarrely enough Dutch sperm for ivf. Wasn’t aware Farrage has said he’ll leave have you got a source for that?
Corbyn said if he got into power he’d “smash globalism, smash capitalism and smash the EU” there are plenty of trade deals to be cut outside the failing protectionist EU block. Personally I voted leave for my kids and grandkids, expecting short term pain for long term gain, what I didn’t anticipate was the absolute refusal of Remainiacs to accept a democratic vote from the British People.

Don't remember the bodies claim but here's farage saying his claim: https://consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectCon ... 3c19852447
I assume you don't know of any countries who trade on wto terms then.

How long will this 'short term pain' be? What will it constitute? How much of it will YOU accept?

The ultimate form of democracy, a vague question on an advisory referendum with a tight result that has been taken to an extreme even though the people at the time said that would never happen and have been found out to have broken the law multiple times and lied about pretty much everything.

You might want to wait a few decades to have kids, your grand children might have a sporting chance by the time they're born.

WTO terms of trade are fine, they are the basis of world trade (hence the names World and Trade in the title).

You seem to have problems with facts. just vague bigoted assumptions.
Farage said if Brexit is a disaster he will leave the UK. So would many others if the remainer Government of Theresa May and Parliament, had had their way, and just surrendered to the EU's bullying and punishment for daring to leave their ideologically flawed experiment.
NOTICE (or did you fail to mention?) he never said he would go and live in the EU did he?
Infact his plan (and job offers came in), would have been to go to the USA.

The EU referendum was not vague, as Farage ensured it wasn't (initially the questions were vague or could be misconstrued).
But Farage ensured it was an easy YES or NO. No ambiguity there. What is vague about YES or NO?
Everyone knew what they were voting for. To leave the EU and it's corrupt bankrupt controlling influence.
The remainers believe they are far more superior and intelligent (obviously not) and cannot accept defeat. Even PIers Morgan (a remainer) says we should leave now, as he accepts the democratic decision of the British people.

It was not advisory as the remainers said so. Labour fought a general election promising to accept the vote of the people. Then back tracked and lied by doing everything to stop it. At least the Lib Dems always said they would not accept any result other than the one they wanted.
Ireland, Holland and France all had referendums about EU integration and the EU refused to accept any of them as they all were for less integration and against Brussels control.

All claims of breaking the law and lying against the Leave campaign were unfounded and proven so in courts to be smear attacks from the losers (remainers/anti democracy people).
The remain side vastly overspent and even had someone committing fraud in their name. One of their leaders, Gina Miller, is a proven liar and was only promoting herself, and her dodgy company.
The EU and remainers lied about further integration, creating an EU army etc.

I have kids, and business interests in the EU thanks, so I am well aware of the corrupt bureaucracy of the EU and some of it's members. All new ventures may have short term problems, cash flow, but long term are a great success, as the UK will prove to be, whether it is 2 years or 10 years is irrelevant now (COVID 19). At least our money will not be propping up the failed EU.

When he gets into EU politics he is blind as a bat and only sees his side if the equation ? Hes a Staunch remainer and doesnt accept he lost a democratic vote ! Pointless arguing really as it's like talking to roathy..

You are right, he comes across as not educated in the real world.
I only had time to reply (long ones at that) as I am sat at my computer communicating and waiting for replies to something I am working at.

Coincidentally it is a case of fraud in a EU country.

Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?
It is the EU and Ireland that want to maintain their protectionist borders and control everything going in and out of there.
If they want to stop items going into Ireland it is their problem, so their cost and their right to do that. It is not the UK saying put border controls and monitor imports/exports.

As for fish, tell the coastal communities whose lives depend on fishing that it does not matter. We used to have a thriving coastal community until the EU and it's Common Fisheries Policy destroyed it. The French take 6x what the UK do from the English Channel, in designated UK waters. If it is so insignificant and not important why are the EU demanding access to it? What about Greenpeace criticising the destruction of Special Protected Areas, located in UK waters, by EU Supertrawlers?
It is irrelevant if we do not eat the fish, as our fishermen can catch them and export them, so making a good living for our people and country. If they are not caught as there is no demand then the environment and fish stocks will improve.

Why wouldn't businesses be prepared to trade on WTO terms? Like the majority of the world currently do. Any good responsible intelligent businessman has made arrangements (as told to by the Government). This is not the incompetent bureaucratic public services, civil service, council, NHS etc we are talking about.

Holland gets a lot of medicines from this country and have already said they are worried we will not supply them. We on the other hand can trade with the rest of the world without the EU constraints and artificially overpricing of drugs, food, car parts etc.
I do not know any Brexiteers who have applied for EU passports, or any Remainers either for that matter, despite their crying, project fear etc and threats to do so. Even they know we will be better off as a free sovereign nation, making laws that benefit our country. I bet even those who have applied for EU passports have applied for a dual passport so they can come running back to the UK when things go wrong over there (as they will) or they need medical care or benefit handouts.

As for the completely stupid comment that people will starve or even die because of Brexit shows a weak uneducated character, and someone who obviously cannot function without being told what to do for themselves. This country survived for centuries without the "protection, support and health care" of the EU.

'Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?' Why is it up to the UK to put up a UK border? Suppose that makes the 'control our borders' line more leave bollocks.

I'm not saying fishing doesn't matter but promoting something that makes up 0.1% of our economy to a huge issue is nonsensical. Brexit will damage loads of bigger industries but you're ignoring that. They won't be able tojust export the fish as they do now as we'll have massive queues. You do know why they're building huge lorry parks around the UK?

The majority of countries don't trade on wto terms. There are 135 non EU countries and 105 of them have some sort of deal. Why don't you name one which doesn't?
8 of the largest haulage firms have recently complained about how the ports aren't ready and the government hasn't given details but you blame them because their crystal ball can't tell if Johnsons oven ready deal was another lie (obviously it was).

Since the brexit vote emigration to the EU has increased. Brexiteers moving: Dyson, Stanley Johnson is getting passports for his family, farage has said he'll leave if brexit is bad, Jacob Rees mong has moved assets to Ireland... I think rats leaving a sinking ship is an adequate phrase.

Medicine and food shortages will happen with a no deal brexit. No one should be denying that. You can either listen to: the government (who did stockpile medicine recently for the original brexit deadline... Wonder why?), the NHS, businesses, and experts OR just keep your fingers in your ears and pretend you weren't lied to.

We were told bodies will pile up on the street, we’ll run out of drinking water and bizarrely enough Dutch sperm for ivf. Wasn’t aware Farrage has said he’ll leave have you got a source for that?
Corbyn said if he got into power he’d “smash globalism, smash capitalism and smash the EU” there are plenty of trade deals to be cut outside the failing protectionist EU block. Personally I voted leave for my kids and grandkids, expecting short term pain for long term gain, what I didn’t anticipate was the absolute refusal of Remainiacs to accept a democratic vote from the British People.

Don't remember the bodies claim but here's farage saying his claim: https://consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectCon ... 3c19852447
I assume you don't know of any countries who trade on wto terms then.

How long will this 'short term pain' be? What will it constitute? How much of it will YOU accept?

The ultimate form of democracy, a vague question on an advisory referendum with a tight result that has been taken to an extreme even though the people at the time said that would never happen and have been found out to have broken the law multiple times and lied about pretty much everything.

You might want to wait a few decades to have kids, your grand children might have a sporting chance by the time they're born.

WTO terms of trade are fine, they are the basis of world trade (hence the names World and Trade in the title).

You seem to have problems with facts. just vague bigoted assumptions.
Farage said if Brexit is a disaster he will leave the UK. So would many others if the remainer Government of Theresa May and Parliament, had had their way, and just surrendered to the EU's bullying and punishment for daring to leave their ideologically flawed experiment.
NOTICE (or did you fail to mention?) he never said he would go and live in the EU did he?
Infact his plan (and job offers came in), would have been to go to the USA.

The EU referendum was not vague, as Farage ensured it wasn't (initially the questions were vague or could be misconstrued).
But Farage ensured it was an easy YES or NO. No ambiguity there. What is vague about YES or NO?
Everyone knew what they were voting for. To leave the EU and it's corrupt bankrupt controlling influence.
The remainers believe they are far more superior and intelligent (obviously not) and cannot accept defeat. Even PIers Morgan (a remainer) says we should leave now, as he accepts the democratic decision of the British people.

It was not advisory as the remainers said so. Labour fought a general election promising to accept the vote of the people. Then back tracked and lied by doing everything to stop it. At least the Lib Dems always said they would not accept any result other than the one they wanted.
Ireland, Holland and France all had referendums about EU integration and the EU refused to accept any of them as they all were for less integration and against Brussels control.

All claims of breaking the law and lying against the Leave campaign were unfounded and proven so in courts to be smear attacks from the losers (remainers/anti democracy people).
The remain side vastly overspent and even had someone committing fraud in their name. One of their leaders, Gina Miller, is a proven liar and was only promoting herself, and her dodgy company.
The EU and remainers lied about further integration, creating an EU army etc.

I have kids, and business interests in the EU thanks, so I am well aware of the corrupt bureaucracy of the EU and some of it's members. All new ventures may have short term problems, cash flow, but long term are a great success, as the UK will prove to be, whether it is 2 years or 10 years is irrelevant now (COVID 19). At least our money will not be propping up the failed EU.

When he gets into EU politics he is blind as a bat and only sees his side if the equation ? Hes a Staunch remainer and doesnt accept he lost a democratic vote ! Pointless arguing really as it's like talking to roathy..

You are right, he comes across as not educated in the real world.
I only had time to reply (long ones at that) as I am sat at my computer communicating and waiting for replies to something I am working at.

Coincidentally it is a case of fraud in a EU country.

Nothing new there then?

Round-up: UK PM's coronavirus briefing

Cases have risen sharply in recent weeks, especially among 17- to 21-year-olds

The rise is not limited to a few local areas but has been seen across the country

The PM said it was "time to act" and introduced new measures in England from Monday, including "the rule of six" to limit the number of people who can gather together

There will be exemptions, such as for weddings and funerals, as well as in gyms and restaurants, but fines will be introduced for all those who break the rules

Hospitality venues will be legally required to collect contact details from customers, or face fines

Johnson also confirmed the government was working on a "moonshot" mass testing plan for tests that can give results in less than 20 minutes

There will be a pilot on entertainment venues in Salford next month so people who test negative on the door can go and see shows

He hopes to roll this out nationally, but we will need to wait for the results.

Do they have to wait for results before being allowed in? If so dont need to be maths genius to see it will take forever to get in? And if allow you in before results can see it now can mr jones leave arena as you are covid positive?

That cracked me up. Can you imagine the tannoy announcement? Mrs Jones can you please leave the theatre, and collect your Hazmat suit off the theatre staff on the way out. Everybody else in her row better **** off as well, sharpish.

Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?
It is the EU and Ireland that want to maintain their protectionist borders and control everything going in and out of there.
If they want to stop items going into Ireland it is their problem, so their cost and their right to do that. It is not the UK saying put border controls and monitor imports/exports.

As for fish, tell the coastal communities whose lives depend on fishing that it does not matter. We used to have a thriving coastal community until the EU and it's Common Fisheries Policy destroyed it. The French take 6x what the UK do from the English Channel, in designated UK waters. If it is so insignificant and not important why are the EU demanding access to it? What about Greenpeace criticising the destruction of Special Protected Areas, located in UK waters, by EU Supertrawlers?
It is irrelevant if we do not eat the fish, as our fishermen can catch them and export them, so making a good living for our people and country. If they are not caught as there is no demand then the environment and fish stocks will improve.

Why wouldn't businesses be prepared to trade on WTO terms? Like the majority of the world currently do. Any good responsible intelligent businessman has made arrangements (as told to by the Government). This is not the incompetent bureaucratic public services, civil service, council, NHS etc we are talking about.

Holland gets a lot of medicines from this country and have already said they are worried we will not supply them. We on the other hand can trade with the rest of the world without the EU constraints and artificially overpricing of drugs, food, car parts etc.
I do not know any Brexiteers who have applied for EU passports, or any Remainers either for that matter, despite their crying, project fear etc and threats to do so. Even they know we will be better off as a free sovereign nation, making laws that benefit our country. I bet even those who have applied for EU passports have applied for a dual passport so they can come running back to the UK when things go wrong over there (as they will) or they need medical care or benefit handouts.

As for the completely stupid comment that people will starve or even die because of Brexit shows a weak uneducated character, and someone who obviously cannot function without being told what to do for themselves. This country survived for centuries without the "protection, support and health care" of the EU.

'Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?' Why is it up to the UK to put up a UK border? Suppose that makes the 'control our borders' line more leave bollocks.

I'm not saying fishing doesn't matter but promoting something that makes up 0.1% of our economy to a huge issue is nonsensical. Brexit will damage loads of bigger industries but you're ignoring that. They won't be able tojust export the fish as they do now as we'll have massive queues. You do know why they're building huge lorry parks around the UK?

The majority of countries don't trade on wto terms. There are 135 non EU countries and 105 of them have some sort of deal. Why don't you name one which doesn't?
8 of the largest haulage firms have recently complained about how the ports aren't ready and the government hasn't given details but you blame them because their crystal ball can't tell if Johnsons oven ready deal was another lie (obviously it was).

Since the brexit vote emigration to the EU has increased. Brexiteers moving: Dyson, Stanley Johnson is getting passports for his family, farage has said he'll leave if brexit is bad, Jacob Rees mong has moved assets to Ireland... I think rats leaving a sinking ship is an adequate phrase.

Medicine and food shortages will happen with a no deal brexit. No one should be denying that. You can either listen to: the government (who did stockpile medicine recently for the original brexit deadline... Wonder why?), the NHS, businesses, and experts OR just keep your fingers in your ears and pretend you weren't lied to.

We were told bodies will pile up on the street, we’ll run out of drinking water and bizarrely enough Dutch sperm for ivf. Wasn’t aware Farrage has said he’ll leave have you got a source for that?
Corbyn said if he got into power he’d “smash globalism, smash capitalism and smash the EU” there are plenty of trade deals to be cut outside the failing protectionist EU block. Personally I voted leave for my kids and grandkids, expecting short term pain for long term gain, what I didn’t anticipate was the absolute refusal of Remainiacs to accept a democratic vote from the British People.

Don't remember the bodies claim but here's farage saying his claim: https://consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectCon ... 3c19852447
I assume you don't know of any countries who trade on wto terms then.

How long will this 'short term pain' be? What will it constitute? How much of it will YOU accept?

The ultimate form of democracy, a vague question on an advisory referendum with a tight result that has been taken to an extreme even though the people at the time said that would never happen and have been found out to have broken the law multiple times and lied about pretty much everything.

You might want to wait a few decades to have kids, your grand children might have a sporting chance by the time they're born.

WTO terms of trade are fine, they are the basis of world trade (hence the names World and Trade in the title).

You seem to have problems with facts. just vague bigoted assumptions.
Farage said if Brexit is a disaster he will leave the UK. So would many others if the remainer Government of Theresa May and Parliament, had had their way, and just surrendered to the EU's bullying and punishment for daring to leave their ideologically flawed experiment.
NOTICE (or did you fail to mention?) he never said he would go and live in the EU did he?
Infact his plan (and job offers came in), would have been to go to the USA.

The EU referendum was not vague, as Farage ensured it wasn't (initially the questions were vague or could be misconstrued).
But Farage ensured it was an easy YES or NO. No ambiguity there. What is vague about YES or NO?
Everyone knew what they were voting for. To leave the EU and it's corrupt bankrupt controlling influence.
The remainers believe they are far more superior and intelligent (obviously not) and cannot accept defeat. Even PIers Morgan (a remainer) says we should leave now, as he accepts the democratic decision of the British people.

It was not advisory as the remainers said so. Labour fought a general election promising to accept the vote of the people. Then back tracked and lied by doing everything to stop it. At least the Lib Dems always said they would not accept any result other than the one they wanted.
Ireland, Holland and France all had referendums about EU integration and the EU refused to accept any of them as they all were for less integration and against Brussels control.

All claims of breaking the law and lying against the Leave campaign were unfounded and proven so in courts to be smear attacks from the losers (remainers/anti democracy people).
The remain side vastly overspent and even had someone committing fraud in their name. One of their leaders, Gina Miller, is a proven liar and was only promoting herself, and her dodgy company.
The EU and remainers lied about further integration, creating an EU army etc.

I have kids, and business interests in the EU thanks, so I am well aware of the corrupt bureaucracy of the EU and some of it's members. All new ventures may have short term problems, cash flow, but long term are a great success, as the UK will prove to be, whether it is 2 years or 10 years is irrelevant now (COVID 19). At least our money will not be propping up the failed EU.

I never said farage would go to an EU country. I said he would leave, the country he goes to isn't relevant just that he'd run away.

The question was vague. Saying you want to leave is all well and good but there are many ways we can leave. When you crossed that box did you believe we'd leave without a deal. Or did you assume we'd have a deal? Did you assume we'd remain in the single market? If the question was remain or leave without a deal then the results would've been different.

All referendums are advisory. That is UK law. For the breaking the law bit... Might want to relook at that as they have been found guilty by courts on multiple occasions (and saying the other side broke the law really doesn't help your case that it was Democratic).

Don't know how remain lied about the EU army (which we veto) or further integration which we evidently aren't doing. Obviously it was remain lying and definitely not leave with the easiest trade deal in history, oven ready deal, turkey joining, lines of migrants entering, brexit dividends, no change, £350 mill a week to the NHS (and yes I know they came out the day AFTER the referendum saying the wording made it advisory but it evidently tricked people), no barriers with NI etc etc.

Are you saying you'll accept 2-10 years of food and medicine shortages? You're insane.

No need to worry, If you’re caught just say you were "breaking the law in a specific and limited way". If it’s acceptable for our good and honest government I’m sure us plebs will be fine

Idiotic comparison. Fekk the EU they want to punish and hurt our country. These anti covid measures are designed to protect the citizens of this country.

So if I disagree with a law and think breaking it could benefit me then I should be allowed to do it? Also don’t you think the fact our government are so willing and so openly breaking international law could set a dangerous precedent in the future?

No because it’s been done loads of times in the past. The narrative pushed by our broadcast media is decent honest EU negotiators sneaky Torres. Truth is Barnier and co have threatened to deny us 3rd country status in the case of a No Deal, something that we thought was a given.

Given choice over believing boris or barnier/EU
Take boris for all his faults! EU are slimy and treat uk as 2nd class citizens when comes to
EU rules and regulations and will screw us for what they can...[/quote


Ahem to that , I don't understand all the Europe love in they dislike us , have no intention of agreeing anything, so stick it to them Boris .

spot on.... where we are now its either your with us or against us.. us of course being our country...
this fella seems to think the EU negotiators are thinking best give a bit because Josh and his mates live there and they are ok..

Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?
It is the EU and Ireland that want to maintain their protectionist borders and control everything going in and out of there.
If they want to stop items going into Ireland it is their problem, so their cost and their right to do that. It is not the UK saying put border controls and monitor imports/exports.

As for fish, tell the coastal communities whose lives depend on fishing that it does not matter. We used to have a thriving coastal community until the EU and it's Common Fisheries Policy destroyed it. The French take 6x what the UK do from the English Channel, in designated UK waters. If it is so insignificant and not important why are the EU demanding access to it? What about Greenpeace criticising the destruction of Special Protected Areas, located in UK waters, by EU Supertrawlers?
It is irrelevant if we do not eat the fish, as our fishermen can catch them and export them, so making a good living for our people and country. If they are not caught as there is no demand then the environment and fish stocks will improve.

Why wouldn't businesses be prepared to trade on WTO terms? Like the majority of the world currently do. Any good responsible intelligent businessman has made arrangements (as told to by the Government). This is not the incompetent bureaucratic public services, civil service, council, NHS etc we are talking about.

Holland gets a lot of medicines from this country and have already said they are worried we will not supply them. We on the other hand can trade with the rest of the world without the EU constraints and artificially overpricing of drugs, food, car parts etc.
I do not know any Brexiteers who have applied for EU passports, or any Remainers either for that matter, despite their crying, project fear etc and threats to do so. Even they know we will be better off as a free sovereign nation, making laws that benefit our country. I bet even those who have applied for EU passports have applied for a dual passport so they can come running back to the UK when things go wrong over there (as they will) or they need medical care or benefit handouts.

As for the completely stupid comment that people will starve or even die because of Brexit shows a weak uneducated character, and someone who obviously cannot function without being told what to do for themselves. This country survived for centuries without the "protection, support and health care" of the EU.

'Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?' Why is it up to the UK to put up a UK border? Suppose that makes the 'control our borders' line more leave bollocks.

I'm not saying fishing doesn't matter but promoting something that makes up 0.1% of our economy to a huge issue is nonsensical. Brexit will damage loads of bigger industries but you're ignoring that. They won't be able tojust export the fish as they do now as we'll have massive queues. You do know why they're building huge lorry parks around the UK?

The majority of countries don't trade on wto terms. There are 135 non EU countries and 105 of them have some sort of deal. Why don't you name one which doesn't?
8 of the largest haulage firms have recently complained about how the ports aren't ready and the government hasn't given details but you blame them because their crystal ball can't tell if Johnsons oven ready deal was another lie (obviously it was).

Since the brexit vote emigration to the EU has increased. Brexiteers moving: Dyson, Stanley Johnson is getting passports for his family, farage has said he'll leave if brexit is bad, Jacob Rees mong has moved assets to Ireland... I think rats leaving a sinking ship is an adequate phrase.

Medicine and food shortages will happen with a no deal brexit. No one should be denying that. You can either listen to: the government (who did stockpile medicine recently for the original brexit deadline... Wonder why?), the NHS, businesses, and experts OR just keep your fingers in your ears and pretend you weren't lied to.

We were told bodies will pile up on the street, we’ll run out of drinking water and bizarrely enough Dutch sperm for ivf. Wasn’t aware Farrage has said he’ll leave have you got a source for that?
Corbyn said if he got into power he’d “smash globalism, smash capitalism and smash the EU” there are plenty of trade deals to be cut outside the failing protectionist EU block. Personally I voted leave for my kids and grandkids, expecting short term pain for long term gain, what I didn’t anticipate was the absolute refusal of Remainiacs to accept a democratic vote from the British People.

Don't remember the bodies claim but here's farage saying his claim: https://consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectCon ... 3c19852447
I assume you don't know of any countries who trade on wto terms then.

How long will this 'short term pain' be? What will it constitute? How much of it will YOU accept?

The ultimate form of democracy, a vague question on an advisory referendum with a tight result that has been taken to an extreme even though the people at the time said that would never happen and have been found out to have broken the law multiple times and lied about pretty much everything.

You might want to wait a few decades to have kids, your grand children might have a sporting chance by the time they're born.

If you care to check online you’ll find footage of both Vardaker and Junkers saying under no circumstances will there be a hard border between Ulster and the ROI. Tell me why a supposed socialist like yourself supports this bankers EU, this protectionist trading block that disadvantages 3rd World Countries with its CAP? Why do you want to tie our country to this corrupt, moribund disaster that puts the interests of bankers, financiers and multi nationals ahead of its citizens, doesn’t seem very socialist to me.

Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?
It is the EU and Ireland that want to maintain their protectionist borders and control everything going in and out of there.
If they want to stop items going into Ireland it is their problem, so their cost and their right to do that. It is not the UK saying put border controls and monitor imports/exports.

As for fish, tell the coastal communities whose lives depend on fishing that it does not matter. We used to have a thriving coastal community until the EU and it's Common Fisheries Policy destroyed it. The French take 6x what the UK do from the English Channel, in designated UK waters. If it is so insignificant and not important why are the EU demanding access to it? What about Greenpeace criticising the destruction of Special Protected Areas, located in UK waters, by EU Supertrawlers?
It is irrelevant if we do not eat the fish, as our fishermen can catch them and export them, so making a good living for our people and country. If they are not caught as there is no demand then the environment and fish stocks will improve.

Why wouldn't businesses be prepared to trade on WTO terms? Like the majority of the world currently do. Any good responsible intelligent businessman has made arrangements (as told to by the Government). This is not the incompetent bureaucratic public services, civil service, council, NHS etc we are talking about.

Holland gets a lot of medicines from this country and have already said they are worried we will not supply them. We on the other hand can trade with the rest of the world without the EU constraints and artificially overpricing of drugs, food, car parts etc.
I do not know any Brexiteers who have applied for EU passports, or any Remainers either for that matter, despite their crying, project fear etc and threats to do so. Even they know we will be better off as a free sovereign nation, making laws that benefit our country. I bet even those who have applied for EU passports have applied for a dual passport so they can come running back to the UK when things go wrong over there (as they will) or they need medical care or benefit handouts.

As for the completely stupid comment that people will starve or even die because of Brexit shows a weak uneducated character, and someone who obviously cannot function without being told what to do for themselves. This country survived for centuries without the "protection, support and health care" of the EU.

'Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?' Why is it up to the UK to put up a UK border? Suppose that makes the 'control our borders' line more leave bollocks.

I'm not saying fishing doesn't matter but promoting something that makes up 0.1% of our economy to a huge issue is nonsensical. Brexit will damage loads of bigger industries but you're ignoring that. They won't be able tojust export the fish as they do now as we'll have massive queues. You do know why they're building huge lorry parks around the UK?

The majority of countries don't trade on wto terms. There are 135 non EU countries and 105 of them have some sort of deal. Why don't you name one which doesn't?
8 of the largest haulage firms have recently complained about how the ports aren't ready and the government hasn't given details but you blame them because their crystal ball can't tell if Johnsons oven ready deal was another lie (obviously it was).

Since the brexit vote emigration to the EU has increased. Brexiteers moving: Dyson, Stanley Johnson is getting passports for his family, farage has said he'll leave if brexit is bad, Jacob Rees mong has moved assets to Ireland... I think rats leaving a sinking ship is an adequate phrase.

Medicine and food shortages will happen with a no deal brexit. No one should be denying that. You can either listen to: the government (who did stockpile medicine recently for the original brexit deadline... Wonder why?), the NHS, businesses, and experts OR just keep your fingers in your ears and pretend you weren't lied to.

We were told bodies will pile up on the street, we’ll run out of drinking water and bizarrely enough Dutch sperm for ivf. Wasn’t aware Farrage has said he’ll leave have you got a source for that?
Corbyn said if he got into power he’d “smash globalism, smash capitalism and smash the EU” there are plenty of trade deals to be cut outside the failing protectionist EU block. Personally I voted leave for my kids and grandkids, expecting short term pain for long term gain, what I didn’t anticipate was the absolute refusal of Remainiacs to accept a democratic vote from the British People.

Don't remember the bodies claim but here's farage saying his claim: https://consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectCon ... 3c19852447
I assume you don't know of any countries who trade on wto terms then.

How long will this 'short term pain' be? What will it constitute? How much of it will YOU accept?

The ultimate form of democracy, a vague question on an advisory referendum with a tight result that has been taken to an extreme even though the people at the time said that would never happen and have been found out to have broken the law multiple times and lied about pretty much everything.

You might want to wait a few decades to have kids, your grand children might have a sporting chance by the time they're born.

If you care to check online you’ll find footage of both Vardaker and Junkers saying under no circumstances will there be a hard border between Ulster and the ROI. Tell me why a supposed socialist like yourself supports this bankers EU, this protectionist trading block that disadvantages 3rd World Countries with its CAP? Why do you want to tie our country to this corrupt, moribund disaster that puts the interests of bankers, financiers and multi nationals ahead of its citizens, doesn’t seem very socialist to me.

I wouldn't call myself a 'supposed socialist' or even a socialist at all but thanks for ignoring all the things I said in the previous message and just going down this route.

If we were to leave without a deal would we need a border? Yes. They can say that they won't put up a border but we'd have to on our side. (Because we need to take back control of our borders and stop immigration).

'Why do you want to tie our country to this corrupt, moribund disaster that puts the interests of bankers, financiers and multi nationals ahead of its citizens'. Apart from multi nationals that is a perfect description of the tories. If you would care to defend the half a billion or so they've given to their mates during this pandemic?

Well I suppose now that our American overlords have said if we break international law and the good Friday agreement we won't have a deal Boris will have to u turn (again).

Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?
It is the EU and Ireland that want to maintain their protectionist borders and control everything going in and out of there.
If they want to stop items going into Ireland it is their problem, so their cost and their right to do that. It is not the UK saying put border controls and monitor imports/exports.

As for fish, tell the coastal communities whose lives depend on fishing that it does not matter. We used to have a thriving coastal community until the EU and it's Common Fisheries Policy destroyed it. The French take 6x what the UK do from the English Channel, in designated UK waters. If it is so insignificant and not important why are the EU demanding access to it? What about Greenpeace criticising the destruction of Special Protected Areas, located in UK waters, by EU Supertrawlers?
It is irrelevant if we do not eat the fish, as our fishermen can catch them and export them, so making a good living for our people and country. If they are not caught as there is no demand then the environment and fish stocks will improve.

Why wouldn't businesses be prepared to trade on WTO terms? Like the majority of the world currently do. Any good responsible intelligent businessman has made arrangements (as told to by the Government). This is not the incompetent bureaucratic public services, civil service, council, NHS etc we are talking about.

Holland gets a lot of medicines from this country and have already said they are worried we will not supply them. We on the other hand can trade with the rest of the world without the EU constraints and artificially overpricing of drugs, food, car parts etc.
I do not know any Brexiteers who have applied for EU passports, or any Remainers either for that matter, despite their crying, project fear etc and threats to do so. Even they know we will be better off as a free sovereign nation, making laws that benefit our country. I bet even those who have applied for EU passports have applied for a dual passport so they can come running back to the UK when things go wrong over there (as they will) or they need medical care or benefit handouts.

As for the completely stupid comment that people will starve or even die because of Brexit shows a weak uneducated character, and someone who obviously cannot function without being told what to do for themselves. This country survived for centuries without the "protection, support and health care" of the EU.

'Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?' Why is it up to the UK to put up a UK border? Suppose that makes the 'control our borders' line more leave bollocks.

I'm not saying fishing doesn't matter but promoting something that makes up 0.1% of our economy to a huge issue is nonsensical. Brexit will damage loads of bigger industries but you're ignoring that. They won't be able tojust export the fish as they do now as we'll have massive queues. You do know why they're building huge lorry parks around the UK?

The majority of countries don't trade on wto terms. There are 135 non EU countries and 105 of them have some sort of deal. Why don't you name one which doesn't?
8 of the largest haulage firms have recently complained about how the ports aren't ready and the government hasn't given details but you blame them because their crystal ball can't tell if Johnsons oven ready deal was another lie (obviously it was).

Since the brexit vote emigration to the EU has increased. Brexiteers moving: Dyson, Stanley Johnson is getting passports for his family, farage has said he'll leave if brexit is bad, Jacob Rees mong has moved assets to Ireland... I think rats leaving a sinking ship is an adequate phrase.

Medicine and food shortages will happen with a no deal brexit. No one should be denying that. You can either listen to: the government (who did stockpile medicine recently for the original brexit deadline... Wonder why?), the NHS, businesses, and experts OR just keep your fingers in your ears and pretend you weren't lied to.

We were told bodies will pile up on the street, we’ll run out of drinking water and bizarrely enough Dutch sperm for ivf. Wasn’t aware Farrage has said he’ll leave have you got a source for that?
Corbyn said if he got into power he’d “smash globalism, smash capitalism and smash the EU” there are plenty of trade deals to be cut outside the failing protectionist EU block. Personally I voted leave for my kids and grandkids, expecting short term pain for long term gain, what I didn’t anticipate was the absolute refusal of Remainiacs to accept a democratic vote from the British People.

Don't remember the bodies claim but here's farage saying his claim: https://consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectCon ... 3c19852447
I assume you don't know of any countries who trade on wto terms then.

How long will this 'short term pain' be? What will it constitute? How much of it will YOU accept?

The ultimate form of democracy, a vague question on an advisory referendum with a tight result that has been taken to an extreme even though the people at the time said that would never happen and have been found out to have broken the law multiple times and lied about pretty much everything.

You might want to wait a few decades to have kids, your grand children might have a sporting chance by the time they're born.

If you care to check online you’ll find footage of both Vardaker and Junkers saying under no circumstances will there be a hard border between Ulster and the ROI. Tell me why a supposed socialist like yourself supports this bankers EU, this protectionist trading block that disadvantages 3rd World Countries with its CAP? Why do you want to tie our country to this corrupt, moribund disaster that puts the interests of bankers, financiers and multi nationals ahead of its citizens, doesn’t seem very socialist to me.

I wouldn't call myself a 'supposed socialist' or even a socialist at all but thanks for ignoring all the things I said in the previous message and just going down this route.

If we were to leave without a deal would we need a border? Yes. They can say that they won't put up a border but we'd have to on our side. (Because we need to take back control of our borders and stop immigration).

'Why do you want to tie our country to this corrupt, moribund disaster that puts the interests of bankers, financiers and multi nationals ahead of its citizens'. Apart from multi nationals that is a perfect description of the tories. If you would care to defend the half a billion or so they've given to their mates during this pandemic?

Well I suppose now that our American overlords have said if we break international law and the good Friday agreement we won't have a deal Boris will have to u turn (again).

Give it a rest you're like Gina Miller, you lost Boris will do what he want's, feck Europe we don't have to listen to their moaning anymore, they need us more than we need them, we only had to do a quarantine and they were begging us to visit, a no deal will be the same!

Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?
It is the EU and Ireland that want to maintain their protectionist borders and control everything going in and out of there.
If they want to stop items going into Ireland it is their problem, so their cost and their right to do that. It is not the UK saying put border controls and monitor imports/exports.

As for fish, tell the coastal communities whose lives depend on fishing that it does not matter. We used to have a thriving coastal community until the EU and it's Common Fisheries Policy destroyed it. The French take 6x what the UK do from the English Channel, in designated UK waters. If it is so insignificant and not important why are the EU demanding access to it? What about Greenpeace criticising the destruction of Special Protected Areas, located in UK waters, by EU Supertrawlers?
It is irrelevant if we do not eat the fish, as our fishermen can catch them and export them, so making a good living for our people and country. If they are not caught as there is no demand then the environment and fish stocks will improve.

Why wouldn't businesses be prepared to trade on WTO terms? Like the majority of the world currently do. Any good responsible intelligent businessman has made arrangements (as told to by the Government). This is not the incompetent bureaucratic public services, civil service, council, NHS etc we are talking about.

Holland gets a lot of medicines from this country and have already said they are worried we will not supply them. We on the other hand can trade with the rest of the world without the EU constraints and artificially overpricing of drugs, food, car parts etc.
I do not know any Brexiteers who have applied for EU passports, or any Remainers either for that matter, despite their crying, project fear etc and threats to do so. Even they know we will be better off as a free sovereign nation, making laws that benefit our country. I bet even those who have applied for EU passports have applied for a dual passport so they can come running back to the UK when things go wrong over there (as they will) or they need medical care or benefit handouts.

As for the completely stupid comment that people will starve or even die because of Brexit shows a weak uneducated character, and someone who obviously cannot function without being told what to do for themselves. This country survived for centuries without the "protection, support and health care" of the EU.

'Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?' Why is it up to the UK to put up a UK border? Suppose that makes the 'control our borders' line more leave bollocks.

I'm not saying fishing doesn't matter but promoting something that makes up 0.1% of our economy to a huge issue is nonsensical. Brexit will damage loads of bigger industries but you're ignoring that. They won't be able tojust export the fish as they do now as we'll have massive queues. You do know why they're building huge lorry parks around the UK?

The majority of countries don't trade on wto terms. There are 135 non EU countries and 105 of them have some sort of deal. Why don't you name one which doesn't?
8 of the largest haulage firms have recently complained about how the ports aren't ready and the government hasn't given details but you blame them because their crystal ball can't tell if Johnsons oven ready deal was another lie (obviously it was).

Since the brexit vote emigration to the EU has increased. Brexiteers moving: Dyson, Stanley Johnson is getting passports for his family, farage has said he'll leave if brexit is bad, Jacob Rees mong has moved assets to Ireland... I think rats leaving a sinking ship is an adequate phrase.

Medicine and food shortages will happen with a no deal brexit. No one should be denying that. You can either listen to: the government (who did stockpile medicine recently for the original brexit deadline... Wonder why?), the NHS, businesses, and experts OR just keep your fingers in your ears and pretend you weren't lied to.

We were told bodies will pile up on the street, we’ll run out of drinking water and bizarrely enough Dutch sperm for ivf. Wasn’t aware Farrage has said he’ll leave have you got a source for that?
Corbyn said if he got into power he’d “smash globalism, smash capitalism and smash the EU” there are plenty of trade deals to be cut outside the failing protectionist EU block. Personally I voted leave for my kids and grandkids, expecting short term pain for long term gain, what I didn’t anticipate was the absolute refusal of Remainiacs to accept a democratic vote from the British People.

Don't remember the bodies claim but here's farage saying his claim: https://consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectCon ... 3c19852447
I assume you don't know of any countries who trade on wto terms then.

How long will this 'short term pain' be? What will it constitute? How much of it will YOU accept?

The ultimate form of democracy, a vague question on an advisory referendum with a tight result that has been taken to an extreme even though the people at the time said that would never happen and have been found out to have broken the law multiple times and lied about pretty much everything.

You might want to wait a few decades to have kids, your grand children might have a sporting chance by the time they're born.

If you care to check online you’ll find footage of both Vardaker and Junkers saying under no circumstances will there be a hard border between Ulster and the ROI. Tell me why a supposed socialist like yourself supports this bankers EU, this protectionist trading block that disadvantages 3rd World Countries with its CAP? Why do you want to tie our country to this corrupt, moribund disaster that puts the interests of bankers, financiers and multi nationals ahead of its citizens, doesn’t seem very socialist to me.

I wouldn't call myself a 'supposed socialist' or even a socialist at all but thanks for ignoring all the things I said in the previous message and just going down this route.

If we were to leave without a deal would we need a border? Yes. They can say that they won't put up a border but we'd have to on our side. (Because we need to take back control of our borders and stop immigration).

'Why do you want to tie our country to this corrupt, moribund disaster that puts the interests of bankers, financiers and multi nationals ahead of its citizens'. Apart from multi nationals that is a perfect description of the tories. If you would care to defend the half a billion or so they've given to their mates during this pandemic?

Well I suppose now that our American overlords have said if we break international law and the good Friday agreement we won't have a deal Boris will have to u turn (again).

Give it a rest you're like Gina Miller, you lost Boris will do what he want's, feck Europe we don't have to listen to their moaning anymore, they need us more than we need them, we only had to do a quarantine and they were begging us to visit, a no deal will be the same!

'they need us more than we need them' Hahahahahaha. Either you're trolling or you're the most gullible idiot on this site. In a few months time the EU will have trade deals/agreements with over 100 countries, we will have exactly 20 (including the giants of the Faroe Islands, Lebanon, and Mozambique at least).

Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?
It is the EU and Ireland that want to maintain their protectionist borders and control everything going in and out of there.
If they want to stop items going into Ireland it is their problem, so their cost and their right to do that. It is not the UK saying put border controls and monitor imports/exports.

As for fish, tell the coastal communities whose lives depend on fishing that it does not matter. We used to have a thriving coastal community until the EU and it's Common Fisheries Policy destroyed it. The French take 6x what the UK do from the English Channel, in designated UK waters. If it is so insignificant and not important why are the EU demanding access to it? What about Greenpeace criticising the destruction of Special Protected Areas, located in UK waters, by EU Supertrawlers?
It is irrelevant if we do not eat the fish, as our fishermen can catch them and export them, so making a good living for our people and country. If they are not caught as there is no demand then the environment and fish stocks will improve.

Why wouldn't businesses be prepared to trade on WTO terms? Like the majority of the world currently do. Any good responsible intelligent businessman has made arrangements (as told to by the Government). This is not the incompetent bureaucratic public services, civil service, council, NHS etc we are talking about.

Holland gets a lot of medicines from this country and have already said they are worried we will not supply them. We on the other hand can trade with the rest of the world without the EU constraints and artificially overpricing of drugs, food, car parts etc.
I do not know any Brexiteers who have applied for EU passports, or any Remainers either for that matter, despite their crying, project fear etc and threats to do so. Even they know we will be better off as a free sovereign nation, making laws that benefit our country. I bet even those who have applied for EU passports have applied for a dual passport so they can come running back to the UK when things go wrong over there (as they will) or they need medical care or benefit handouts.

As for the completely stupid comment that people will starve or even die because of Brexit shows a weak uneducated character, and someone who obviously cannot function without being told what to do for themselves. This country survived for centuries without the "protection, support and health care" of the EU.

'Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?' Why is it up to the UK to put up a UK border? Suppose that makes the 'control our borders' line more leave bollocks.

I'm not saying fishing doesn't matter but promoting something that makes up 0.1% of our economy to a huge issue is nonsensical. Brexit will damage loads of bigger industries but you're ignoring that. They won't be able tojust export the fish as they do now as we'll have massive queues. You do know why they're building huge lorry parks around the UK?

The majority of countries don't trade on wto terms. There are 135 non EU countries and 105 of them have some sort of deal. Why don't you name one which doesn't?
8 of the largest haulage firms have recently complained about how the ports aren't ready and the government hasn't given details but you blame them because their crystal ball can't tell if Johnsons oven ready deal was another lie (obviously it was).

Since the brexit vote emigration to the EU has increased. Brexiteers moving: Dyson, Stanley Johnson is getting passports for his family, farage has said he'll leave if brexit is bad, Jacob Rees mong has moved assets to Ireland... I think rats leaving a sinking ship is an adequate phrase.

Medicine and food shortages will happen with a no deal brexit. No one should be denying that. You can either listen to: the government (who did stockpile medicine recently for the original brexit deadline... Wonder why?), the NHS, businesses, and experts OR just keep your fingers in your ears and pretend you weren't lied to.

We were told bodies will pile up on the street, we’ll run out of drinking water and bizarrely enough Dutch sperm for ivf. Wasn’t aware Farrage has said he’ll leave have you got a source for that?
Corbyn said if he got into power he’d “smash globalism, smash capitalism and smash the EU” there are plenty of trade deals to be cut outside the failing protectionist EU block. Personally I voted leave for my kids and grandkids, expecting short term pain for long term gain, what I didn’t anticipate was the absolute refusal of Remainiacs to accept a democratic vote from the British People.

Don't remember the bodies claim but here's farage saying his claim: https://consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectCon ... 3c19852447
I assume you don't know of any countries who trade on wto terms then.

How long will this 'short term pain' be? What will it constitute? How much of it will YOU accept?

The ultimate form of democracy, a vague question on an advisory referendum with a tight result that has been taken to an extreme even though the people at the time said that would never happen and have been found out to have broken the law multiple times and lied about pretty much everything.

You might want to wait a few decades to have kids, your grand children might have a sporting chance by the time they're born.

If you care to check online you’ll find footage of both Vardaker and Junkers saying under no circumstances will there be a hard border between Ulster and the ROI. Tell me why a supposed socialist like yourself supports this bankers EU, this protectionist trading block that disadvantages 3rd World Countries with its CAP? Why do you want to tie our country to this corrupt, moribund disaster that puts the interests of bankers, financiers and multi nationals ahead of its citizens, doesn’t seem very socialist to me.

I wouldn't call myself a 'supposed socialist' or even a socialist at all but thanks for ignoring all the things I said in the previous message and just going down this route.

If we were to leave without a deal would we need a border? Yes. They can say that they won't put up a border but we'd have to on our side. (Because we need to take back control of our borders and stop immigration).

'Why do you want to tie our country to this corrupt, moribund disaster that puts the interests of bankers, financiers and multi nationals ahead of its citizens'. Apart from multi nationals that is a perfect description of the tories. If you would care to defend the half a billion or so they've given to their mates during this pandemic?

Well I suppose now that our American overlords have said if we break international law and the good Friday agreement we won't have a deal Boris will have to u turn (again).

Give it a rest you're like Gina Miller, you lost Boris will do what he want's, feck Europe we don't have to listen to their moaning anymore, they need us more than we need them, we only had to do a quarantine and they were begging us to visit, a no deal will be the same!

'they need us more than we need them' Hahahahahaha. Either you're trolling or you're the most gullible idiot on this site. In a few months time the EU will have trade deals/agreements with over 100 countries, we will have exactly 20 (including the giants of the Faroe Islands, Lebanon, and Mozambique at least).

You'll see Gina, they sell more to us than almost all of those 100 Counties, they'll cave last minute anyway they always do, they need us badly

Black lives Matter and Antifa are also exempt from this as it’s a peaceful demonstration

We have differing views on BLM.

I've not looked into it but if what you say is true, then that's not good.

Understand that schools, workplaces etc are exempt - that makes sense.

But if the PM is implementing this rule, it should apply to anything outside an essential gathering.

I was being pedantic Chief but we all know BLM And Antifa get a free pass. No condemnation from the press police or politicians.
Where is there are protests about protecting our children then it’s a whole different outcome.
Yes I know you support BLM and that’s fine with me. I just would like to ask a few questions.
1/ Are you a Marxist / Communist supporter ?
2/ Do you agree with defunding the police and letting BLM police the Country ?
3/ Do you agree with abolishing capitalism ?
4/ Do you agree that white people should give up there homes and give it to a Black family ?
I’m interested to know you views on this ?

Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?
It is the EU and Ireland that want to maintain their protectionist borders and control everything going in and out of there.
If they want to stop items going into Ireland it is their problem, so their cost and their right to do that. It is not the UK saying put border controls and monitor imports/exports.

As for fish, tell the coastal communities whose lives depend on fishing that it does not matter. We used to have a thriving coastal community until the EU and it's Common Fisheries Policy destroyed it. The French take 6x what the UK do from the English Channel, in designated UK waters. If it is so insignificant and not important why are the EU demanding access to it? What about Greenpeace criticising the destruction of Special Protected Areas, located in UK waters, by EU Supertrawlers?
It is irrelevant if we do not eat the fish, as our fishermen can catch them and export them, so making a good living for our people and country. If they are not caught as there is no demand then the environment and fish stocks will improve.

Why wouldn't businesses be prepared to trade on WTO terms? Like the majority of the world currently do. Any good responsible intelligent businessman has made arrangements (as told to by the Government). This is not the incompetent bureaucratic public services, civil service, council, NHS etc we are talking about.

Holland gets a lot of medicines from this country and have already said they are worried we will not supply them. We on the other hand can trade with the rest of the world without the EU constraints and artificially overpricing of drugs, food, car parts etc.
I do not know any Brexiteers who have applied for EU passports, or any Remainers either for that matter, despite their crying, project fear etc and threats to do so. Even they know we will be better off as a free sovereign nation, making laws that benefit our country. I bet even those who have applied for EU passports have applied for a dual passport so they can come running back to the UK when things go wrong over there (as they will) or they need medical care or benefit handouts.

As for the completely stupid comment that people will starve or even die because of Brexit shows a weak uneducated character, and someone who obviously cannot function without being told what to do for themselves. This country survived for centuries without the "protection, support and health care" of the EU.

'Why is it up to the UK to put a border in Ireland?' Why is it up to the UK to put up a UK border? Suppose that makes the 'control our borders' line more leave bollocks.

I'm not saying fishing doesn't matter but promoting something that makes up 0.1% of our economy to a huge issue is nonsensical. Brexit will damage loads of bigger industries but you're ignoring that. They won't be able tojust export the fish as they do now as we'll have massive queues. You do know why they're building huge lorry parks around the UK?

The majority of countries don't trade on wto terms. There are 135 non EU countries and 105 of them have some sort of deal. Why don't you name one which doesn't?
8 of the largest haulage firms have recently complained about how the ports aren't ready and the government hasn't given details but you blame them because their crystal ball can't tell if Johnsons oven ready deal was another lie (obviously it was).

Since the brexit vote emigration to the EU has increased. Brexiteers moving: Dyson, Stanley Johnson is getting passports for his family, farage has said he'll leave if brexit is bad, Jacob Rees mong has moved assets to Ireland... I think rats leaving a sinking ship is an adequate phrase.

Medicine and food shortages will happen with a no deal brexit. No one should be denying that. You can either listen to: the government (who did stockpile medicine recently for the original brexit deadline... Wonder why?), the NHS, businesses, and experts OR just keep your fingers in your ears and pretend you weren't lied to.

We were told bodies will pile up on the street, we’ll run out of drinking water and bizarrely enough Dutch sperm for ivf. Wasn’t aware Farrage has said he’ll leave have you got a source for that?
Corbyn said if he got into power he’d “smash globalism, smash capitalism and smash the EU” there are plenty of trade deals to be cut outside the failing protectionist EU block. Personally I voted leave for my kids and grandkids, expecting short term pain for long term gain, what I didn’t anticipate was the absolute refusal of Remainiacs to accept a democratic vote from the British People.

Don't remember the bodies claim but here's farage saying his claim: https://consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectCon ... 3c19852447
I assume you don't know of any countries who trade on wto terms then.

How long will this 'short term pain' be? What will it constitute? How much of it will YOU accept?

The ultimate form of democracy, a vague question on an advisory referendum with a tight result that has been taken to an extreme even though the people at the time said that would never happen and have been found out to have broken the law multiple times and lied about pretty much everything.

You might want to wait a few decades to have kids, your grand children might have a sporting chance by the time they're born.

If you care to check online you’ll find footage of both Vardaker and Junkers saying under no circumstances will there be a hard border between Ulster and the ROI. Tell me why a supposed socialist like yourself supports this bankers EU, this protectionist trading block that disadvantages 3rd World Countries with its CAP? Why do you want to tie our country to this corrupt, moribund disaster that puts the interests of bankers, financiers and multi nationals ahead of its citizens, doesn’t seem very socialist to me.

I wouldn't call myself a 'supposed socialist' or even a socialist at all but thanks for ignoring all the things I said in the previous message and just going down this route.

If we were to leave without a deal would we need a border? Yes. They can say that they won't put up a border but we'd have to on our side. (Because we need to take back control of our borders and stop immigration).

'Why do you want to tie our country to this corrupt, moribund disaster that puts the interests of bankers, financiers and multi nationals ahead of its citizens'. Apart from multi nationals that is a perfect description of the tories. If you would care to defend the half a billion or so they've given to their mates during this pandemic?

Well I suppose now that our American overlords have said if we break international law and the good Friday agreement we won't have a deal Boris will have to u turn (again).

Give it a rest you're like Gina Miller, you lost Boris will do what he want's, feck Europe we don't have to listen to their moaning anymore, they need us more than we need them, we only had to do a quarantine and they were begging us to visit, a no deal will be the same!

'they need us more than we need them' Hahahahahaha. Either you're trolling or you're the most gullible idiot on this site. In a few months time the EU will have trade deals/agreements with over 100 countries, we will have exactly 20 (including the giants of the Faroe Islands, Lebanon, and Mozambique at least).

You'll see Gina, they sell more to us than almost all of those 100 Counties, they'll cave last minute anyway they always do, they need us badly

Tbh I don't know who Gina is so your name calling doesn't really work.

Our exports to them are 12% of our gdp. Their exports to us is 3% of their gdp. If there's one side famous for caving and u turns its the tories.