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Re: How Likely is a Second (Covid ) Wave?

Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:30 pm

Bluebina wrote:
skidemin wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
JulesK wrote:What about folk who have lost loved ones to Covid then in Wales, do they think, " ah it can't happen to me " and carry on normally ? Doubt it !!


PS. Suedehead !! What a read :thumbup:





It's not just those who have lost someone who are not carrying on as normal? Lots of people been scared to death so wont even go to shops! Yet I take very vulnerable people to hospitals and they say been carrying on as normal but take precautions despite being able to shield, I'm very vulnerable to corvid but carry on as normal... will say there is more and more comments from people sayi need to get on with things otherwise there will long term damage to peoples mental health as well as increased deaths from people to scared to go to hospital for operations or having consultations delayed until God knows when as hospitals effectively closed to all but essential treatment...



correct and there are plenty who have lost loved ones through not having adequate medical attention who did not have a VIP death.... and thousands more to come, there was a doctor on the radio earlier saying his mum had been diagnosed of cancer 3 months TOO LATE... its criminal and any scientists or doctors speaking out...and there are many , are being swept under the carpet.. and kept out of MSM..


Opening up Doctors surgeries and hospitals is the responsibility of the NHS, while they are not inundated with Covid patients why haven't they opened up, it's not the government saying stop treatment is it.



please have a read... its from April but very little has changed , well other than restrictions lasting much longer than they first thought , which if anything will have increased the avoidable deaths... i can only assume that their thinking at the time was that covid deaths would be in the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS , certainly more than they were prepared to sacrifice..... but doctors, scientists and politicians are fully aware of the on going non covid death toll and have been for months , how can they not be its common sense and can only be ignored if your terrified and selfish..yet we hear so little about it ? conspiracy ? i dont know... but something isnt right...

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/485876-covid-l ... ls-150000/

Re: How Likely is a Second (Covid ) Wave?

Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:35 pm

skidemin wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
skidemin wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
JulesK wrote:What about folk who have lost loved ones to Covid then in Wales, do they think, " ah it can't happen to me " and carry on normally ? Doubt it !!


PS. Suedehead !! What a read :thumbup:





It's not just those who have lost someone who are not carrying on as normal? Lots of people been scared to death so wont even go to shops! Yet I take very vulnerable people to hospitals and they say been carrying on as normal but take precautions despite being able to shield, I'm very vulnerable to corvid but carry on as normal... will say there is more and more comments from people sayi need to get on with things otherwise there will long term damage to peoples mental health as well as increased deaths from people to scared to go to hospital for operations or having consultations delayed until God knows when as hospitals effectively closed to all but essential treatment...



correct and there are plenty who have lost loved ones through not having adequate medical attention who did not have a VIP death.... and thousands more to come, there was a doctor on the radio earlier saying his mum had been diagnosed of cancer 3 months TOO LATE... its criminal and any scientists or doctors speaking out...and there are many , are being swept under the carpet.. and kept out of MSM..


Opening up Doctors surgeries and hospitals is the responsibility of the NHS, while they are not inundated with Covid patients why haven't they opened up, it's not the government saying stop treatment is it.



please have a read... its from April but very little has changed , well other than restrictions lasting much longer than they first thought , which if anything will have increased the avoidable deaths... i can only assume that their thinking at the time was that covid deaths would be in the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS , certainly more than they were prepared to sacrifice..... but doctors, scientists and politicians are fully aware of the on going non covid death toll and have been for months , how can they not be its common sense and can only be ignored if your terrified and selfish..yet we hear so little about it ? conspiracy ? i dont know... but something isnt right...

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/485876-covid-l ... ls-150000/



I know, I can't understand why the NHS Management haven't picked things back up?

They panicked stopped everything, dealt with the need in hand Covid, but then they've virtually closed doctors surgeries and hospitals, what are they doing now?

Surely they are quiet with nothing to do if people arent allowed/or are too scared to go back in?

Re: How Likely is a Second (Covid ) Wave?

Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:44 pm

ealing_ayatollah wrote:Question for Mr R. Coat (or anyone else that feels like chiming in)

I've recently come to a worrying thought I'm trying to work out.

Here in the UK the opposition to the Tories was so poor that we saw record victory in the last election giving the government an opportunity to do as they choose pretty much without restriction.

In the US it seems the democrats are doing almost everything in their power to throw the election. There is a massive potential for a red wave super majority in November.

Could it be that we are slowly being coerced across the west into one party systems to pave the way towards a true globalist agenda. Put such an abhorent opposition together that the the only sensible choice appears to be the saviour we are desperate for - so the are Boris and Trump trojan horses? Is this the perfect Hegalian dialectic?

I accept I'm pushing the tin foil hat of my avatar to its maximum here, but the insanity of the left seems far to coordinated and extreme to almost be believable.

Would be keen to here your thoughts on this?


Ealing, happy to respond.

Hegelian most definitely, yes but not I think pushed by Trump. The Dems are fighting very dirty and intend to steal the election by voter fraud or if not, to violently/via lawfare contest the outcome. They have already gamed this. bear in mind they want to overthrow the Constitution and remove the Electoral College. There is even talk of a coup which they have already tried once via Mueller etc! They and their backers have a huge amount at stake.

The best explanation I can give is set out in this video from March. It’s very good. Explanation from 10 minutes onwards.

https://youtu.be/gGavpYNpEP8

The thesis is the party’s over and we (i.e. the general population) are going to pay for it, financially and societally. Central Banks can’t keep on printing money and need a reset. The bankers want their money back which means your wealth. Whatever that may be it will be taken. Your children’s and grandchildren’s futures as debt slaves. Covid-19 or as they now say ‘Coronavirus’ will be the excuse/scapegoat.

Some may remember one of my posts which referenced the World Economic Forum call for a ‘reset.’ I posted a link on Central banks.

The restrictions and lies are now such that I can’t believe how any thinking person takes them seriously as genuine health protection measures.

For those who shout ‘conspiracy theory!’ I laugh in your face.

As I have previously said the testing is a mass-DNA collecting exercise and they didn’t tell you that.

The Coronavirus (Retention of Fingerprints and DNA Profiles in the Interests of National Security)Regulations 2020 SI 10 Sept 2020. No consultation with Parliament at all.

https://legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/97 ... view=plain

I’ve also covered covered –with verified links – the intention to control us through vaccination passports/QR codes/Social Credit restrictions. Quite probably cash removal/introduction of new currency all backed up by severe authoritarian measures. The oh-so-smart smartphone snowflakes are walking straight into this bleating like sheep.

I read in a reliable source that the Police are being trained in new ultra-aggressive tactics

Re: How Likely is a Second (Covid ) Wave?

Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:12 pm

Why do you only talk about the Democrats and voter fraud and never the republicans? Trump himself has encouraged people to try and vote twice and has even committed voter fraud last year.

Re: How Likely is a Second (Covid ) Wave?

Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:32 pm

Bluebina wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
skidemin wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
JulesK wrote:What about folk who have lost loved ones to Covid then in Wales, do they think, " ah it can't happen to me " and carry on normally ? Doubt it !!


PS. Suedehead !! What a read :thumbup:





It's not just those who have lost someone who are not carrying on as normal? Lots of people been scared to death so wont even go to shops! Yet I take very vulnerable people to hospitals and they say been carrying on as normal but take precautions despite being able to shield, I'm very vulnerable to corvid but carry on as normal... will say there is more and more comments from people sayi need to get on with things otherwise there will long term damage to peoples mental health as well as increased deaths from people to scared to go to hospital for operations or having consultations delayed until God knows when as hospitals effectively closed to all but essential treatment...



correct and there are plenty who have lost loved ones through not having adequate medical attention who did not have a VIP death.... and thousands more to come, there was a doctor on the radio earlier saying his mum had been diagnosed of cancer 3 months TOO LATE... its criminal and any scientists or doctors speaking out...and there are many , are being swept under the carpet.. and kept out of MSM..


Opening up Doctors surgeries and hospitals is the responsibility of the NHS, while they are not inundated with Covid patients why haven't they opened up, it's not the government saying stop treatment is it.



please have a read... its from April but very little has changed , well other than restrictions lasting much longer than they first thought , which if anything will have increased the avoidable deaths... i can only assume that their thinking at the time was that covid deaths would be in the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS , certainly more than they were prepared to sacrifice..... but doctors, scientists and politicians are fully aware of the on going non covid death toll and have been for months , how can they not be its common sense and can only be ignored if your terrified and selfish..yet we hear so little about it ? conspiracy ? i dont know... but something isnt right...

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/485876-covid-l ... ls-150000/



I know, I can't understand why the NHS Management haven't picked things back up?

They panicked stopped everything, dealt with the need in hand Covid, but then they've virtually closed doctors surgeries and hospitals, what are they doing now?

Surely they are quiet with nothing to do if people arent allowed/or are too scared to go back in?



the NHS too are burdened by social distancing along with other safety measures ..you can no longer have waiting rooms so full there is no seat... same with surgeries.. everything is spaced out including waiting times for pretty much everything... the irony in all of this is that the people most likely to suffer, die, and be an avoidable death of things other than covid are the very same people that are most afraid of covid and have shouted the loudest for more and more restrictions.. became very obvious very early to me that should i have a stroke or heart attack i could forget being saved..the emphasis and duty of care moved very quickly away from what used to be the norm to giving old johnny 2 weeks more of wetting himself...

Re: How Likely is a Second (Covid ) Wave?

Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:07 am

Surely the government are controlling the nhs. It’s almost criminal they haven’t opened up again properly. God knows what they are all doing at the moment as there is no Covid patients in Wales biggest hospital currently, yet many go on suffering in silence.
A whopping 3 positive cases in Cardiff yesterday.....20 or 30 years ago people wouldn’t have stood for this nonsense, what a weak conformative populations we have become.