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Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:47 pm

skidemin wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Blue Diver wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Funny how story comes out a week after come back ... as was said no one complained about passengers not wearing masks to staff at the time.... how come 16 were positive are they only ones who got tested? Same last week
in Plymouth came from same place 19 positive then what as happened to the other couple hundred people on flights? :old:


A friend of my wife’s was on that flight.
She had a test when she was home and was negative so obviously it didn’t spread on the plane.


So because this one person was tested you assume no one else on the plane became infected Unbelievable :banghead:



no more unbelievable than jumping to the conclusion they all caught it on the plane.. especially when the majority had been holidaying together... anyway are any of these actually ill ?



This flight was on 25th no way did they catch it on flight ! Coincidence that a week ealier a flight from same destination had 19 cases! If caught it from flight home how come other flights have not reported and cases? Because not for one minute are the thousands of brits flying are all corvid free when arrive back in UK! Now if there are none well thats unbelievable to... :o

Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:52 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Blue Diver wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Funny how story comes out a week after come back ... as was said no one complained about passengers not wearing masks to staff at the time.... how come 16 were positive are they only ones who got tested? Same last week
in Plymouth came from same place 19 positive then what as happened to the other couple hundred people on flights? :old:


A friend of my wife’s was on that flight.
She had a test when she was home and was negative so obviously it didn’t spread on the plane.




What does that tell you? Corvid they say needs
Short period of time to transfer to other people so 3 or 4 hours in planes more than enough time to catch it.... zante is the problem not the plane this gives a strong indication of that same as Plymouth Plymouth 2wks ago...


I think Zante may have started the spread but infected people would also pass it on to others in a sealed tube with recycled air, with two toilets and distance's of less than half a metre, mask or no masks.

Overseas airports are terrible too, I've just come back from Kos, the airport was terrible, it was too small for people to distance and the lines were unbelievable, if anyone had Covid -19 it would have certainly spread there.

You pay your money and take your chance, the holiday itself was fine, but the airport and plane home had potential for the virus to spread if present, thats life we all know the risks.

Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:57 pm

Bluebina wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Blue Diver wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Funny how story comes out a week after come back ... as was said no one complained about passengers not wearing masks to staff at the time.... how come 16 were positive are they only ones who got tested? Same last week
in Plymouth came from same place 19 positive then what as happened to the other couple hundred people on flights? :old:


A friend of my wife’s was on that flight.
She had a test when she was home and was negative so obviously it didn’t spread on the plane.




What does that tell you? Corvid they say needs
Short period of time to transfer to other people so 3 or 4 hours in planes more than enough time to catch it.... zante is the problem not the plane this gives a strong indication of that same as Plymouth Plymouth 2wks ago...


I think Zante may have started the spread but infected people would also pass it on to others in a sealed tube with recycled air, with two toilets and distance's of less than half a metre, mask or no masks.

Overseas airports are terrible too, I've just come back from Kos, the airport was terrible, it was too small for people to distance and the lines were unbelievable, if anyone had Covid -19 it would have certainly spread there.

You pay your money and take your chance, the holiday itself was fine, but the airport and plane home had potential for the virus to spread if present, thats life we all know the risks.


I will add Cardiff airport was superb, plenty of room, only four flights on a Saturday, which were spaced out, good distancing and masks were worn throughout.

I flew with tui also and they told people to wear masks and everybody did, the flight out was brilliant no one in front of us, behind or alongside, coming home people were well behaved and wore masks, but the flight was full so there was a risk on a packed plane with only two toilets at the back of the plane in use.

Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:09 pm

NIGEL HARRIS aka Nigel Blues


Of all the flights from all the airports to all the resorts, it just had to be mine!

Yes we were passengers on the Zante to Cardiff flight that is making all national news with 16 and counting positive Covid.

Pleased to confirm we have both tested negative. We have been 100% well throughout but it's good to get assurance when family and friends are concerned.

The reporting in local and national newspapers, TV and radio, all seemingly based on one woman passenger calling passengers Covidiots and TUI aircrew incompetent does not represent our experience in the slightest and I do not wish to be associated with that. That is harsh and very unfair.

We were in Row 9 of a 27 row plane and saw nobody remove masks (other than for drink or food), walk down the plane to talk to others or do anything unruly. I don't know if it was different further down the plane but if that lady saw all those things, I don't understand why she said nothing on the flight to staff.

The TUI staff did a sound job throughout too. The scariest part of the flight for us was landing in Storm Ellen, that was not an experience I want to repeat.

I suspect the Covid problem was among groups not respecting social distancing on holiday itself more than anything else but we did at all times and had a fantastic, safe holiday.

I hope everyone is OK and recovers quickly.

I can now enjoy my next beer! Cheers!

Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:41 pm

Passenger on Glasgow Tui flight tests positive

A passenger who flew to Glasgow from a Greek island on a Tui Airlines flight has tested positive for coronavirus.

Tui was told about the case on 26 August, three days after the passenger had flown with them.

It passed contact information of the people seated within two rows of the affected passenger on to contact tracers, and got in touch with those customers too to let them know.

At the time of Tui flight TOM 1745, the passenger was not displaying symptoms.

Onboard there are precautions in place to restrict the spread of the virus, including that masks must be worn, and Tui said this is enforced by the flight crew.

Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:14 pm

Coronavirus: Tests at Cardiff Airport 'considered for Greek flights'

The Welsh Government is looking at what testing can be brought in for passengers returning from Greece to Cardiff Airport, the BBC has been told.

The claim from aviation sources comes after at least 16 people tested positive for Covid-19 following a flight from Zante to Cardiff.

Earlier a minister raised concerns of rules being broken on the August 25 TUI departure.

Almost 200 people face self-isolating following the flight.

At a press conference on Tuesday, Wales' Education Minister Kirsty Williams said the government was "deeply concerned" at reports from people about "the lack of appropriate measures to keep everybody on that flight safe".

She said Health Minister Vaughan Gething was speaking to "all the relevant parties" and would make a statement later that day.

Greece and its islands remain on the UK government's list of quarantine-exempt countries, meaning travellers do not need to self-isolate on their return.

But the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) updated its travel advice for Zante on 29 August to reflect local coronavirus restrictions put in place on the island.

Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:24 pm

Forget the planes a total of 4 flights from zante have resulted in positive corvid tests spot the connection? : Scotland brought in restrictions from there and Wales saying should self isolate from there as well.

Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:40 pm

Igovernor wrote:
Blue Diver wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Funny how story comes out a week after come back ... as was said no one complained about passengers not wearing masks to staff at the time.... how come 16 were positive are they only ones who got tested? Same last week
in Plymouth came from same place 19 positive then what as happened to the other couple hundred people on flights? :old:


A friend of my wife’s was on that flight.
She had a test when she was home and was negative so obviously it didn’t spread on the plane.


So because this one person was tested you assume no one else on the plane became infected Unbelievable :banghead:


I assume nothing, I’m answering the question Allen asked.
This woman was tested a few days ago so the track & trace system kicked in.
People on here panicking thinking everybody is going to catch covid on a plane with some carriers. This disproves that.

Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:52 pm

Holidaymakers returning to Wales from the Greek island of Zante are to be asked to quarantine for 14 days and be offered Covid-19 tests, the Welsh Government has said.

Health and social services minister Vaughan Gething said public officials had identified "multiple separate clusters" linked to the popular holiday island.

Currently there are no quarantine restrictions in place for people returning to the UK from Zante.

The first Tui flight affected will land tonight at Cardiff International Airport and passengers will be given a letter asking them to self-isolate for two weeks.

They will also be offered a coronavirus test within 48 hours of their arrival home and a repeat test eight days after returning.

Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:33 am

pembroke allan wrote:Zante is the problem other week people from Plymouth came back with corvid! Nothing to do with masks on plane....Why the fvk are people going abroad safest place is home.. :banghead:

Safest place is home?? Are You Serious. You are living in a country which has the highest death rate per 1 Million people in the world.An island where the only two ways this virus could get into the UK is by air or by sea. And a government that leaves the doors wide open to both. Safest place to live, my arse.

Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:45 am

Jackflash wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Zante is the problem other week people from Plymouth came back with corvid! Nothing to do with masks on plane....Why the fvk are people going abroad safest place is home.. :banghead:

Safest place is home?? Are You Serious. You are living in a country which has the highest death rate per 1 Million people in the world.An island where the only two ways this virus could get into the UK is by air or by sea. And a government that leaves the doors wide open to both. Safest place to live, my arse.



Ok you may not be safe in Swansea but I live in a place with no corvid... and deaths are falling and hospital admission is falling to practically nil! so you go on plane to zante Portugal and anywhere else and feel safer And then be isolated for 2wks on return? I'll stay home safe....:thumbup:

Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:48 am

Jackflash wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Zante is the problem other week people from Plymouth came back with corvid! Nothing to do with masks on plane....Why the fvk are people going abroad safest place is home.. :banghead:

Safest place is home?? Are You Serious. You are living in a country which has the highest death rate per 1 Million people in the world.An island where the only two ways this virus could get into the UK is by air or by sea. And a government that leaves the doors wide open to both. Safest place to live, my arse.



its one of the highest over all, but not the highest... and certainly is nowhere near the highest for infections or deaths now or for quite a few weeks.. but what does the truth matter

Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:56 am

skidemin wrote:
Jackflash wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Zante is the problem other week people from Plymouth came back with corvid! Nothing to do with masks on plane....Why the fvk are people going abroad safest place is home.. :banghead:

Safest place is home?? Are You Serious. You are living in a country which has the highest death rate per 1 Million people in the world.An island where the only two ways this virus could get into the UK is by air or by sea. And a government that leaves the doors wide open to both. Safest place to live, my arse.



its one of the highest over all, but not the highest... and certainly is nowhere near the highest for infections or deaths now or for quite a few weeks.. but what does the truth matter




He thinks it safer to get on a plane and be self isolated for 2 wks on return than to stay in this country? mmmm only in swansea is that good sense

Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:42 am

skidemin wrote:
Jackflash wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Zante is the problem other week people from Plymouth came back with corvid! Nothing to do with masks on plane....Why the fvk are people going abroad safest place is home.. :banghead:

Safest place is home?? Are You Serious. You are living in a country which has the highest death rate per 1 Million people in the world.An island where the only two ways this virus could get into the UK is by air or by sea. And a government that leaves the doors wide open to both. Safest place to live, my arse.



its one of the highest over all, but not the highest... and certainly is nowhere near the highest for infections or deaths now or for quite a few weeks.. but what does the truth matter


Latest figures are for deaths per 1 Million.
UK confirmed deaths 41,514 Deaths per 1 Million 624.37
Chile 11,344 605.69
Brazil 123,780 590.92
Italy 35,497 587.39
And when you consider we are a island and all others above have numerous land boarders, those are disgusting figures, and this government has blood on its hands.

Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:56 am

pembroke allan wrote:
Jackflash wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Zante is the problem other week people from Plymouth came back with corvid! Nothing to do with masks on plane....Why the fvk are people going abroad safest place is home.. :banghead:

Safest place is home?? Are You Serious. You are living in a country which has the highest death rate per 1 Million people in the world.An island where the only two ways this virus could get into the UK is by air or by sea. And a government that leaves the doors wide open to both. Safest place to live, my arse.



Ok you may not be safe in Swansea but I live in a place with no corvid... and deaths are falling and hospital admission is falling to practically nil! so you go on plane to zante Portugal and anywhere else and feel safer And then be isolated for 2wks on return? I'll stay home safe....:thumbup:

Whatever gave you the idea i live in Swansea, have another look in your crystal ball, you'll see that i too live in Pembrokeshire.
You say you live in a place with no corvid..........Then you say, deaths are falling and hospital admissions are falling there.???? :roll: :roll:

Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:34 pm

Jackflash wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Jackflash wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Zante is the problem other week people from Plymouth came back with corvid! Nothing to do with masks on plane....Why the fvk are people going abroad safest place is home.. :banghead:

Safest place is home?? Are You Serious. You are living in a country which has the highest death rate per 1 Million people in the world.An island where the only two ways this virus could get into the UK is by air or by sea. And a government that leaves the doors wide open to both. Safest place to live, my arse.



its one of the highest over all, but not the highest... and certainly is nowhere near the highest for infections or deaths now or for quite a few weeks.. but what does the truth matter


Latest figures are for deaths per 1 Million.
UK confirmed deaths 41,514 Deaths per 1 Million 624.37
Chile 11,344 605.69
Brazil 123,780 590.92
Italy 35,497 587.39
And when you consider we are a island and all others above have numerous land boarders, those are disgusting figures, and this government has blood on its hands.



ah great...just ignore the countries with a higher rate per million. and randomly put some others up. :laughing5: :laughing5:

and conveniently ignore the facts about current infections and deaths..

scaremonger...but a piss poor one .

Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:24 pm

skidemin wrote:
Jackflash wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Jackflash wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Zante is the problem other week people from Plymouth came back with corvid! Nothing to do with masks on plane....Why the fvk are people going abroad safest place is home.. :banghead:

Safest place is home?? Are You Serious. You are living in a country which has the highest death rate per 1 Million people in the world.An island where the only two ways this virus could get into the UK is by air or by sea. And a government that leaves the doors wide open to both. Safest place to live, my arse.



its one of the highest over all, but not the highest... and certainly is nowhere near the highest for infections or deaths now or for quite a few weeks.. but what does the truth matter


Latest figures are for deaths per 1 Million.
UK confirmed deaths 41,514 Deaths per 1 Million 624.37
Chile 11,344 605.69
Brazil 123,780 590.92
Italy 35,497 587.39
And when you consider we are a island and all others above have numerous land boarders, those are disgusting figures, and this government has blood on its hands.



ah great...just ignore the countries with a higher rate per million. and randomly put some others up. :laughing5: :laughing5:

and conveniently ignore the facts about current infections and deaths..

scaremonger...but a piss poor one .

Can you please clarify the countries with a higher death rate per million. The figures I quoted are correct.

Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:34 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Forget the planes a total of 4 flights from zante have resulted in positive corvid tests spot the connection? : Scotland brought in restrictions from there and Wales saying should self isolate from there as well.

Forget the planes??? How the f#ck do you think it got to Zante in the first place?...Swam?

Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:43 pm

Jackflash wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Forget the planes a total of 4 flights from zante have resulted in positive corvid tests spot the connection? : Scotland brought in restrictions from there and Wales saying should self isolate from there as well.

Forget the planes??? How the f#ck do you think it got to Zante in the first place?...Swam?



Hmmm, it's airborne??(if you believe the scientists) And these islands need servicing somehow, that's island life!! Why,it could be the tui planes not being cleaned thoroughly enough after each flight?? Just as easy to blame them :roll:
Testing is at a level where more cases are bound to appear,but these are obviously asymptomatic cases mostly.
Going by your theory,how has turkey,Greece etc had such low numbers of deaths,when turkey who has 6 borders,and 83m people
Yet only 6000 odd deaths? By your way of thinking,sure them two countries alone should see far higher numbers,as neither is an island,thus according to you,should suffer on a greater scale than us,as we are an island?
You have obviously been scared somewhat, a bit like some members of my own family :sad7: :old: :bluebird:

Re: Cardiff Flight Coronavirus cases on board now while flig

Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:59 am

Jackflash wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Jackflash wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Zante is the problem other week people from Plymouth came back with corvid! Nothing to do with masks on plane....Why the fvk are people going abroad safest place is home.. :banghead:

Safest place is home?? Are You Serious. You are living in a country which has the highest death rate per 1 Million people in the world.An island where the only two ways this virus could get into the UK is by air or by sea. And a government that leaves the doors wide open to both. Safest place to live, my arse.



its one of the highest over all, but not the highest... and certainly is nowhere near the highest for infections or deaths now or for quite a few weeks.. but what does the truth matter


Latest figures are for deaths per 1 Million.
UK confirmed deaths 41,514 Deaths per 1 Million 624.37
Chile 11,344 605.69
Brazil 123,780 590.92
Italy 35,497 587.39
And when you consider we are a island and all others above have numerous land boarders, those are disgusting figures, and this government has blood on its hands.



We've been counting everything so the figures look worse, most countries have been counting as little as possible to make the figures look better.