George Floyd what is the view now after new video ?

I really should show restraint and not get involved in these conversations but.....haha. Nukes, you're a good man and I like you alot but I have disagree with you on this subject.

Whatever happened beforehand, the context to what happened, it's still disgustingly wrong that a man had his life taken from him by another man who was kneeling on his neck....end of story.

If the situation was this, it kicks off outside a Swansea v Cardiff game, a drug dealing Cardiff City fan starts fighting and a policeman does exactly the same thing to him. Can you imagine the uproar on here??

The only difference would be that it wouldn't be linked to "us and them" politics. George Floyd was black and started to make people aware of racial inequality, very rightly in my eyes.

It's no threat to me as white man, people that have been enslaved and mistreated for years are asking for the same treatment as everyone else.

Take emotion out of it, take the media spin out of it and take the "oh but there are bad black men so they don't deserve equality" out of it and on a basic human level I don't see how anyone can have an issue with racism being addressed.

Some of the comments on here have made me embarrassed to be a Cardiff fan, imagine Mendez Lang or Hoilett or a black city player reading them.

The day we get rid of this , us and them, rubbish will be a good day.

You think Floyd was the one who first made people aware of racial inequality?
Who living in the West today has been enslaved or mistreated for years?
Who’s said black people don’t deserve equality.
Specifically what racism isn’t being addressed.

he must mean me.. I've been enslaved by the Govt, and mistreated by women for years. It needs addressing.

Stay strong babes #METOO

I really should show restraint and not get involved in these conversations but.....haha. Nukes, you're a good man and I like you alot but I have disagree with you on this subject.

Whatever happened beforehand, the context to what happened, it's still disgustingly wrong that a man had his life taken from him by another man who was kneeling on his neck....end of story.

If the situation was this, it kicks off outside a Swansea v Cardiff game, a drug dealing Cardiff City fan starts fighting and a policeman does exactly the same thing to him. Can you imagine the uproar on here??

The only difference would be that it wouldn't be linked to "us and them" politics. George Floyd was black and started to make people aware of racial inequality, very rightly in my eyes.

It's no threat to me as white man, people that have been enslaved and mistreated for years are asking for the same treatment as everyone else.

Take emotion out of it, take the media spin out of it and take the "oh but there are bad black men so they don't deserve equality" out of it and on a basic human level I don't see how anyone can have an issue with racism being addressed.

Some of the comments on here have made me embarrassed to be a Cardiff fan, imagine Mendez Lang or Hoilett or a black city player reading them.

The day we get rid of this , us and them, rubbish will be a good day.

You think Floyd was the one who first made people aware of racial inequality?
Who living in the West today has been enslaved or mistreated for years?
Who’s said black people don’t deserve equality.
Specifically what racism isn’t being addressed.

he must mean me.. I've been enslaved by the Govt, and mistreated by women for years. It needs addressing.

Stay strong babes #METOO

Stay strong babes

Personally I'm glad the pregnant woman he attacked with a knife is alive

As for Floyd, I couldn't give a dam. Live the criminal life and there is always consequences

Imagine how his victims feel with all this poor Floyd bullshit

And thanks to this scum man I no longer am renewing my season ticket, bending a knee ,fist pumping has left a very sour taste, I'm not paying to watch that.

First time I'm not renewing in 27 years

The autopsy report online makes interesting reading.

Personally I'm glad the pregnant woman he attacked with a knife is alive

As for Floyd, I couldn't give a dam. Live the criminal life and there is always consequences

Imagine how his victims feel with all this poor Floyd bullshit

And thanks to this scum man I no longer am renewing my season ticket, bending a knee ,fist pumping has left a very sour taste, I'm not paying to watch that.

First time I'm not renewing in 27 years

If that's the sole reason for 'not renewing', then you're deluding yourself and deceiving us...

George Floyd or no George Floyd, the 'kneel' is just a gesture that many (rightly) were looking for in order to highlight their perceived injustices with regard to the so-called 'race card' and should be seen as such; nothing more

As for Underhill80, I only have one thing to say...next time you say "that's enough, I'm out of here", have the balls to follow up your declaration rather than sneaking back on under another name. Your rhetoric doesn't change!

Personally I'm glad the pregnant woman he attacked with a knife is alive

As for Floyd, I couldn't give a dam. Live the criminal life and there is always consequences

Imagine how his victims feel with all this poor Floyd bullshit

And thanks to this scum man I no longer am renewing my season ticket, bending a knee ,fist pumping has left a very sour taste, I'm not paying to watch that.

First time I'm not renewing in 27 years

If that's the sole reason for 'not renewing', then you're deluding yourself and deceiving us...

George Floyd or no George Floyd, the 'kneel' is just a gesture that many (rightly) were looking for in order to highlight their perceived injustices with regard to the so-called 'race card' and should be seen as such; nothing more

As for Underhill80, I only have one thing to say...next time you say "that's enough, I'm out of here", have the balls to follow up your declaration rather than sneaking back on under another name. Your rhetoric doesn't change!

rightly is just your opinion...i find it very disturbing A } that they are doing it and B} that there are people swallowing it....
BLM has gone from being pushed as a grass roots uprising, to being exposed as a left wing marxist group with far reaching agendas, to lets forget the exposure and go back to them being nice, fluffy and harmless by our media... the majority of us have memories longer than goldfish though...

Personally I'm glad the pregnant woman he attacked with a knife is alive

As for Floyd, I couldn't give a dam. Live the criminal life and there is always consequences

Imagine how his victims feel with all this poor Floyd bullshit

And thanks to this scum man I no longer am renewing my season ticket, bending a knee ,fist pumping has left a very sour taste, I'm not paying to watch that.

First time I'm not renewing in 27 years

If that's the sole reason for 'not renewing', then you're deluding yourself and deceiving us...

George Floyd or no George Floyd, the 'kneel' is just a gesture that many (rightly) were looking for in order to highlight their perceived injustices with regard to the so-called 'race card' and should be seen as such; nothing more

As for Underhill80, I only have one thing to say...next time you say "that's enough, I'm out of here", have the balls to follow up your declaration rather than sneaking back on under another name. Your rhetoric doesn't change!

Who's sneaking anywhere? People knew who I was when I posted as Bamba Crew (I assume that's what you're talking about) and I've actually used my surname this time haha. Not hiding from anyone. Had trouble getting into my old account so started a new one. Simple.

Personally I'm glad the pregnant woman he attacked with a knife is alive

As for Floyd, I couldn't give a dam. Live the criminal life and there is always consequences

Imagine how his victims feel with all this poor Floyd bullshit

And thanks to this scum man I no longer am renewing my season ticket, bending a knee ,fist pumping has left a very sour taste, I'm not paying to watch that.

First time I'm not renewing in 27 years

If that's the sole reason for 'not renewing', then you're deluding yourself and deceiving us...

George Floyd or no George Floyd, the 'kneel' is just a gesture that many (rightly) were looking for in order to highlight their perceived injustices with regard to the so-called 'race card' and should be seen as such; nothing more

As for Underhill80, I only have one thing to say...next time you say "that's enough, I'm out of here", have the balls to follow up your declaration rather than sneaking back on under another name. Your rhetoric doesn't change!

Sven
I accept your comments, we are all entitled to them.

And yes before all this knee bending hypocrisy I was debating to renew or not. My 9 year old son wants to play on a Saturday (currently plays on a Sunday) so for me this nonsense was the final straw, and a difficult one I think about daily.

But

I do not believe racism is a huge problem in the UK, we just seem to follow America. It's disrespectful to the huge majority of us Welsh/British who bend over backwards to accommodate all colours, all religions.

I love CCFC, always will, I've told my son if he supports anyone else il disown him haha. I've done 69 league grounds with CCFC plus Enfield, Gloucester, Bath, Merthyr, Ton Pentre in the 80s

And no doubt will get a season ticket in the future when it all dies down, (if my son let's me).

But I can't handle all this nonsense, I struggled with the red nonsense.

this for me is almost as ridicolous as that.

Personally I'm glad the pregnant woman he attacked with a knife is alive

As for Floyd, I couldn't give a dam. Live the criminal life and there is always consequences

Imagine how his victims feel with all this poor Floyd bullshit

And thanks to this scum man I no longer am renewing my season ticket, bending a knee ,fist pumping has left a very sour taste, I'm not paying to watch that.

First time I'm not renewing in 27 years

If that's the sole reason for 'not renewing', then you're deluding yourself and deceiving us...

George Floyd or no George Floyd, the 'kneel' is just a gesture that many (rightly) were looking for in order to highlight their perceived injustices with regard to the so-called 'race card' and should be seen as such; nothing more

As for Underhill80, I only have one thing to say...next time you say "that's enough, I'm out of here", have the balls to follow up your declaration rather than sneaking back on under another name. Your rhetoric doesn't change!

Sven
I accept your comments, we are all entitled to them.

And yes before all this knee bending hypocrisy I was debating to renew or not. My 9 year old son wants to play on a Saturday (currently plays on a Sunday) so for me this nonsense was the final straw, and a difficult one I think about daily.

But

I do not believe racism is a huge problem in the UK, we just seem to follow America. It's disrespectful to the huge majority of us Welsh/British who bend over backwards to accommodate all colours, all religions.

I love CCFC, always will, I've told my son if he supports anyone else il disown him haha. I've done 69 league grounds with CCFC plus Enfield, Gloucester, Bath, Merthyr, Ton Pentre in the 80s

And no doubt will get a season ticket in the future when it all dies down, (if my son let's me).

But I can't handle all this nonsense, I struggled with the red nonsense.

this for me is almost as ridicolous as that.

ive renewed but if the kneeling continues if allowed in im going to be missing KO and the first minute or two.. i feel as you do regarding the disrespect...

Personally I'm glad the pregnant woman he attacked with a knife is alive

As for Floyd, I couldn't give a dam. Live the criminal life and there is always consequences

Imagine how his victims feel with all this poor Floyd bullshit

And thanks to this scum man I no longer am renewing my season ticket, bending a knee ,fist pumping has left a very sour taste, I'm not paying to watch that.

First time I'm not renewing in 27 years

If that's the sole reason for 'not renewing', then you're deluding yourself and deceiving us...

George Floyd or no George Floyd, the 'kneel' is just a gesture that many (rightly) were looking for in order to highlight their perceived injustices with regard to the so-called 'race card' and should be seen as such; nothing more

As for Underhill80, I only have one thing to say...next time you say "that's enough, I'm out of here", have the balls to follow up your declaration rather than sneaking back on under another name. Your rhetoric doesn't change!

Sven
I accept your comments, we are all entitled to them.

And yes before all this knee bending hypocrisy I was debating to renew or not. My 9 year old son wants to play on a Saturday (currently plays on a Sunday) so for me this nonsense was the final straw, and a difficult one I think about daily.

But

I do not believe racism is a huge problem in the UK, we just seem to follow America. It's disrespectful to the huge majority of us Welsh/British who bend over backwards to accommodate all colours, all religions.

I love CCFC, always will, I've told my son if he supports anyone else il disown him haha. I've done 69 league grounds with CCFC plus Enfield, Gloucester, Bath, Merthyr, Ton Pentre in the 80s

And no doubt will get a season ticket in the future when it all dies down, (if my son let's me).

But I can't handle all this nonsense, I struggled with the red nonsense.

this for me is almost as ridicolous as that.

Just like people to be upfront We all have our reasons and none are as important as family and supporting your boy

I agree this country does not have the racism of others and we certainly are far more 'accepting' of others (no matter their race, religion or creed) than most and my one concern is more about (some) others accepting us than it is us accepting them but that is a whole new debate I won't get into

On this occasion some have 'followed' America (not for the first time) wrongly but I appreciate they were 'looking' for 'something/anything' to progress their agendas; and black vigilantes in uniform carrying weapons with some (and these are the real cowards) wearing balaclavas is a bigger worry

I've been on this planet long enough to recognise when something is right and when it is wrong. The George Floyd situation was already an odd one even before the results of the autopsy and the authorities in the USA (and the BLM people in the USA and this country) need to accept/acknowledge they 'jumped the gun' because it suited said agendas

Kneel all they like; it's what follows as a result of the hypocritical hatred being peddled right now that is the longer term worry

Absolutely spot on Sven.

This nonsense has created hate and division that wasn't there before.

I hope it calms down but from what I'm seeing, hearing it doesn't look likely.

Why any human being thinks colour of skin is an issue is beyond me.

I judge by character, that includes my own (and I have many faults I try to address to be a better man). We are all just human beings regardless of colour, religion, sexuality.

I tell my lad, "remember you are not better than anyone else and they are not better than you. We are all equal"

Absolutely spot on Sven.

This nonsense has created hate and division that wasn't there before.

I hope it calms down but from what I'm seeing, hearing it doesn't look likely.

Why any human being thinks colour of skin is an issue is beyond me.

I judge by character, that includes my own (and I have many faults I try to address to be a better man). We are all just human beings regardless of colour, religion, sexuality.

I tell my lad, "remember you are not better than anyone else and they are not better than you. We are all equal"

Kneeling is one thing as this represents police brutality towards blacks in America but the stats do not back this up. And the black power fist pump is NOT some innocent gesture it’s Black supremacy.
Would those saying it’s innocent be so tolerant of a white player Giving a straight arm Nazi salute ? Nah I don’t think so.
But yes the reason why I haven’t renewed is Marxism has got into football and politics is a no no in the stadiums.
Also it’s going to be a totally shit football experience and no guarantee of getting In the ground.

Kneeling is one thing as this represents police brutality towards blacks in America but the stats do not back this up. And the black power fist pump is NOT some innocent gesture it’s Black supremacy.
Would those saying it’s innocent be so tolerant of a white player Giving a straight arm Nazi salute ? Nah I don’t think so.
But yes the reason why I haven’t renewed is Marxism has got into football and politics is a no no in the stadiums.
Also it’s going to be a totally shit football experience and no guarantee of getting In the ground.

Spot on mate

But the left/woke/bame/cancel culture lot can't see it's about Marxism, that's what has done me in on this, I honestly thought people had more intelligence, the normal average person doesn't care about colour of skin.

I don't agree with knee bending or fist pumping, both ridicolous looking, virtue signalling bullshxt

With all respect, the black people killed in police brutality in USA were not exactly "law abiding folk" plus many white, Asian people have died in police custody, many more than black people as the UK stats prove but where is the uproar there?

White, black, pink or green if you live the "gangster" criminal life you reap what you sow.

It’s a bit disturbing to read many think these cops should still be charged with murder despite the autopsy showing he wasn’t murdered.
Should they be found guilty of murder to appease the left and BLM ?
What a dangerous route you want to go down but it does follow the far left narrative of the truth not allowed to be told because it could upset people or groups.
But in truth yes that copper had his knee on his neck but it does not show how much force was put on his neck. But the autopsy showed Floyd did not die due to any force on his neck.
So should they all be charged to appease the Marxist police hating left ?
I know in years to come these Marxist types will get into power and then the world will be in trouble. We are heading for dictatorship and hardship. Feel for my kids and Grandkids that the loons want to take over the asylum.

Everytime a non white person is stopped in uk by police it's called racial profiling! If your white nothing said because thats what police need to do if suspect any person or vehicle is dodgy? Love to know What the latest black person stopped would say if asked should police not stop any bame people only white people? Perhaps it's a question reporters ect should ask her ?

Everytime a non white person is stopped in uk by police it's called racial profiling! If your white nothing said because thats what police need to do if suspect any person or vehicle is dodgy? Love to know What the latest black person stopped would say if asked should police not stop any bame people only white people? Perhaps it's a question reporters ect should ask her ?

Hello Allan

That question was pose on talk radio to Femi Oluwole, a clown to be fair,

He couldn't give a decent answer on it as to be fair

all this at present is more racist to white folk than black folk.

Everytime a non white person is stopped in uk by police it's called racial profiling! If your white nothing said because thats what police need to do if suspect any person or vehicle is dodgy? Love to know What the latest black person stopped would say if asked should police not stop any bame people only white people? Perhaps it's a question reporters ect should ask her ?

Hello Allan

That question was pose on talk radio to Femi Oluwole, a clown to be fair,

He couldn't give a decent answer on it as to be fair

all this at present is more racist to white folk than black folk.

Well no surprise.... ask question because the inference from ms "what's her name" was only stopped because she was black and in nice car? Even though she was treated with respect and reason for being stopped .was explained to her but she accused police of profiling her? So if got dodgy car and your bame police shouldn't stop you only stop white people...

Everytime a non white person is stopped in uk by police it's called racial profiling! If your white nothing said because thats what police need to do if suspect any person or vehicle is dodgy? Love to know What the latest black person stopped would say if asked should police not stop any bame people only white people? Perhaps it's a question reporters ect should ask her ?

Hello Allan

That question was pose on talk radio to Femi Oluwole, a clown to be fair,

He couldn't give a decent answer on it as to be fair

all this at present is more racist to white folk than black folk.

Well no surprise.... ask question because the inference from ms "what's her name" was only stopped because she was black and in nice car? Even though she was treated with respect and reason for being stopped .was explained to her but she accused police of profiling her? So if got dodgy car and your bame police shouldn't stop you only stop white people...

Dangerous times mate

I been stopped twice, it's annoying but I didnt cry and say it's because "I'm white",

It's getting out of control

Everytime a non white person is stopped in uk by police it's called racial profiling! If your white nothing said because thats what police need to do if suspect any person or vehicle is dodgy? Love to know What the latest black person stopped would say if asked should police not stop any bame people only white people? Perhaps it's a question reporters ect should ask her ?

Hello Allan

That question was pose on talk radio to Femi Oluwole, a clown to be fair,

He couldn't give a decent answer on it as to be fair

all this at present is more racist to white folk than black folk.

Well no surprise.... ask question because the inference from ms "what's her name" was only stopped because she was black and in nice car? Even though she was treated with respect and reason for being stopped .was explained to her but she accused police of profiling her? So if got dodgy car and your bame police shouldn't stop you only stop white people...

It's not only about the police everything that is happening in uk and wider is down to fact that bame get it worse? Corvid deaths more bame than white so not treated same regarding ppe or were Put in frontline before white colleagues knowing they were vulnerable.... housing unemployment ect ect list is endless and saying disproportionately worse off
in comparison to white people, discrimination is not allowed to be said if your white person.