Congratulations

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Also - we only needed to win by 2.

To say we wouldn’t have if they didn’t have a red card is silly considering we were already 1-0 up - and could have been 3-0... funnily enough we were “unlucky” not to be.

Thoroughly deserved win by a margin even greater than we needed.

here is the final table have a look if you had won by two goals forest would have one goal up on you

46 18 16 12 62 53 9 70 swansea

46 18 16 12 58 50 8 70 reading

No they wouldn’t. I have no idea what you are looking at, you just posted it.

We won by 3 vs reading. So take 1 away to have us winning by 2 instead... .

We still go up.

Here we go again.... Roathy starts off nicely then turns it into something it isn't

You mean replying to the people saying it’s “luck” by explaining why it isn’t?

Aye, horrific.

Here we go again.... Roathy starts off nicely then turns it into something it isn't

He always the same he just cannot help himself!

Here we go again.... Roathy starts off nicely then turns it into something it isn't

You mean replying to the people saying it’s “luck” by explaining why it isn’t?

Aye, horrific.

Not read the posts again here is why i say it is luck, it is lucky your player did not get sent off as well, as he was conning the ref!
"Your player started it elbowing the reading player he pushed back on his chest and he went over holding his face, cheating sod, even your former player commentating said he did not like what your player had done!"
Perhaps you did not watch the incident, you need to look at it before making your stupid comments!

Here we go again.... Roathy starts off nicely then turns it into something it isn't

He always the same he just cannot help himself!

Can’t help what?

I said congratulations, both managers deserve praise for getting us both in the play offs.

You and someone else tried to make out it was luck (getting the table all muddled up in the process), I explained why it was not luck and that we only needed to win by 2 goals.

If that’s what you mean by not being able to help myself then yes, I prefer discussions to have accuracy within them and not to be detailed by bitter nonsense, especially inaccurate bitter nonsense.

Be sensible and we will all get along swimmingly.

All this is a bit ridiculous.

All teams have elements of luck, including us.

Here we go again.... Roathy starts off nicely then turns it into something it isn't

You mean replying to the people saying it’s “luck” by explaining why it isn’t?

Aye, horrific.

Not read the posts again here is why i say it is luck, it is lucky your player did not get sent off as well, as he was conning the ref!
"Your player started it elbowing the reading player he pushed back on his chest and he went over holding his face, cheating sod, even your former player commentating said he did not like what your player had done!"
Perhaps you did not watch the incident, you need to look at it before making your stupid comments!

Putting your post in red won’t make it any more accurate, you tried that with the table too.

Hands to the face and neck - red card.

If VdH deserved a red then it will be done so retrospectively, I don’t think he deserved even a yellow and I’m sure the fact no action will be taken will suggest that is correct.

All this is a bit ridiculous.

All teams have elements of luck, including us.

Paul don’t bring sense into this, can’t you see people are trying to vent their anger in peace. Any sensible posting is then seen as “not being able to help yourself”.

It’s football. Luck plays a very small part as it’s often cancelled out by luck for the other side. For example Reading got a penalty with 10 men, had this happened to us no doubt that would be claimed as “luck” too.

What “luck” means in this context is “an event we did not want to happen”. That’s not luck.

Here we go again.... Roathy starts off nicely then turns it into something it isn't

He always the same he just cannot help himself!

I've got a mate like him, they just try and bait you and get under your skin, don't fall for his it wasn't luck, he knows the score, just say fair enough it wasn't luck and kill him dead

All this is a bit ridiculous.

All teams have elements of luck, including us.

Paul don’t bring sense into this, can’t you see people are trying to vent their anger in peace. Any sensible posting is then seen as “not being able to help yourself”.

It’s football. Luck plays a very small part as it’s often cancelled out by luck for the other side. For example Reading got a penalty with 10 men, had this happened to us no doubt that would be claimed as “luck” too.

What “luck” means in this context is “an event we did not want to happen”. That’s not luck.

how can it be sense if Paul says exactly what everyone else has said... we can be lucky...there is luck..so therefore uou can be too ,you had about 8 years worth this month though....

All this is a bit ridiculous.

All teams have elements of luck, including us.

Paul don’t bring sense into this, can’t you see people are trying to vent their anger in peace. Any sensible posting is then seen as “not being able to help yourself”.

It’s football. Luck plays a very small part as it’s often cancelled out by luck for the other side. For example Reading got a penalty with 10 men, had this happened to us no doubt that would be claimed as “luck” too.

What “luck” means in this context is “an event we did not want to happen”. That’s not luck.

how can it be sense if Paul says exactly what everyone else has said... we can be lucky...there is luck..so therefore uou can be too ,you had about 8 years worth this month though....

Eh? Paul is stating there is elements of luck to every single side. That’s what I said.

The fact there are elements of luck to all sides mean luck doesn’t really play a factor in a 46 game season, all teams are slightly lucky and all teams are slightly unlucky. It’s football.

If you believe we were lucky to finish 6th then you were lucky to finish 5th. You got there by an extra win and we got there by an extra 2 goals.

Here we go again.... Roathy starts off nicely then turns it into something it isn't

He always the same he just cannot help himself!

I've got a mate like him, they just try and bait you and get under your skin, don't fall for his it wasn't luck, he knows the score, just say fair enough it wasn't luck and kill him dead

Where am I baiting anyone? I literally said well done to both sides for getting to the play-offs.

Some bitter folk then came on completely unprovoked trying to stupidly state that the result after a 46 game season is down to luck.

I have factually stated that it turned out we needed to win by 2 goals vs Reading, we won by 3 after dominating the opposition. How is that luck or anything but perfect sense?

All this is a bit ridiculous.

All teams have elements of luck, including us.

Paul don’t bring sense into this, can’t you see people are trying to vent their anger in peace. Any sensible posting is then seen as “not being able to help yourself”.

It’s football. Luck plays a very small part as it’s often cancelled out by luck for the other side. For example Reading got a penalty with 10 men, had this happened to us no doubt that would be claimed as “luck” too.

What “luck” means in this context is “an event we did not want to happen”. That’s not luck.

how can it be sense if Paul says exactly what everyone else has said... we can be lucky...there is luck..so therefore uou can be too ,you had about 8 years worth this month though....

Eh? Paul is stating there is elements of luck to every single side. That’s what I said.

The fact there are elements of luck to all sides mean luck doesn’t really play a factor in a 46 game season, all teams are slightly lucky and all teams are slightly unlucky. It’s football.

If you believe we were lucky to finish 6th then you were lucky to finish 5th. You got there by an extra win and we got there by an extra 2 goals.

ah right...luck suddenly does exist ? and is evenly spread amongst the 24 clubs over the 46 games..is there a luck VAR too incase the luck inspectors get it wrong ?
anyway, now your sufficiently in your own self made tangle i will leave you to it....

ah right...luck suddenly does exist ? and is evenly spread amongst the 24 clubs over the 46 games..is there a luck VAR too incase the luck inspectors get it wrong ?
anyway, now your sufficiently in your own self made tangle i will leave you to it....

Only you are saying it doesn’t exist. Nobody else. I think it’s probably wise you run for cover as you have done.

What I and the other sensible people of the forum are saying is that over the course of the season, you finish where you deserve to.

I also stated that it is not luck to win by 3 goals when you dominate the opposition.

You keep making up arguments that nobody has made if it makes you feel better about attributing success to luck. But remember, if we got here due to luck then so did you.

All this is a bit ridiculous.

All teams have elements of luck, including us.

Paul don’t bring sense into this, can’t you see people are trying to vent their anger in peace. Any sensible posting is then seen as “not being able to help yourself”.

It’s football. Luck plays a very small part as it’s often cancelled out by luck for the other side. For example Reading got a penalty with 10 men, had this happened to us no doubt that would be claimed as “luck” too.

What “luck” means in this context is “an event we did not want to happen”. That’s not luck.

how can it be sense if Paul says exactly what everyone else has said... we can be lucky...there is luck..so therefore uou can be too ,you had about 8 years worth this month though....

Eh? Paul is stating there is elements of luck to every single side. That’s what I said.

The fact there are elements of luck to all sides mean luck doesn’t really play a factor in a 46 game season, all teams are slightly lucky and all teams are slightly unlucky. It’s football.

If you believe we were lucky to finish 6th then you were lucky to finish 5th. You got there by an extra win and we got there by an extra 2 goals.

ah right...luck suddenly does exist ? and is evenly spread amongst the 24 clubs over the 46 games..is there a luck VAR too incase the luck inspectors get it wrong ?
anyway, now your sufficiently in your own self made tangle i will leave you to it....

Going on the conversation luck does not exist it's all down to errors by ref goalie ect ect same in life a sighn falls down 2 seconds after you pass it's not luck that you wasn't under it ..... the fact was you were 2 seconds quicker walking can go on but get jist of things.... begs question why do people say you were lucky or unlucky whenever something happens?

Going on the conversation luck does not exist it's all down to errors by ref goalie ect ect same in life a sighn falls down 2 seconds after you pass it's not luck that you wasn't under it ..... the fact was you were 2 seconds quicker walking can go on but get jist of things.... begs question why do people say you were lucky or unlucky whenever something happens?

Luck is an unintended fortunate outcome.

A massive deflected goal, a freak own goal, an incorrectly given penalty etc etc

Luck isn’t winning by a greater margin than you set out to, with some stunning goals along the way. Luck isn’t the ref correctly sending a player off.

That’s the issue. On this forum, a select few just say “luck” whenever they see an outcome that favours a team they don’t like. That’s not what luck is I’m afraid.

ah right...luck suddenly does exist ? and is evenly spread amongst the 24 clubs over the 46 games..is there a luck VAR too incase the luck inspectors get it wrong ?
anyway, now your sufficiently in your own self made tangle i will leave you to it....

Only you are saying it doesn’t exist. Nobody else. I think it’s probably wise you run for cover as you have done.

What I and the other sensible people of the forum are saying is that over the course of the season, you finish where you deserve to.

I also stated that it is not luck to win by 3 goals when you dominate the opposition.

You keep making up arguments that nobody has made if it makes you feel better about attributing success to luck. But remember, if we got here due to luck then so did you.

1 out of ten...your still tangled up in your own nonsense Adam...

1 out of ten...your still tangled up in your own nonsense Adam...

Nothing tangled Norman, apart from your understanding of basic concepts maybe.

Luck is a small element in pretty much all football matches, affecting all clubs be that good and bad.

Over the course of a 46 game season, you are where you are on merit. Although if you personally put success down to luck then we are both lucky to be in the playoffs, can’t have it both ways.

That simple, no matter how much it clearly upsets you.