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Re: Boris and farage battered you

Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:37 am

bill22322 wrote:So what EU law are Brexiteers on here most looking forward to getting rid of then?


Freedom of Movement

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:36 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:How's the government's 'Brexit contract with the people' going? https://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status ... 19200?s=20
Seems to be a fail in every box.

Brexit has cost the UK more than we've ever put in already. No US trade deal, no EU trade deal. A 27 acre lorry park (1 of about 12) in Kent. Support for Scottish, Welsh, and Irish independence is higher than ever. Food and medicine shortages, majority of businesses unprepared.
You're right, you are a real winner here.
Just say you hate Britain and be done with it.


2 Days ago the EU agreed a €750 billion Covid recovery fund which will be given mainly to the Southern states (Spain, Portugal, Italy & Greece) in the form of grants and loans. They also agreed a further €1.2 trillion 7 year budget.

If we were still in the EU our contribution to that little lot would have been around €350 billion :o

How you can claim BREXIT has already cost the UK more than ever is beyond belief as we have saved a fortune before we have even fully left the EU.

Do you have the source that we'd have paid that much?

Your argument doesn't really work as we've contributed a figure and anything in the future is irrelevant to that figure. You can't say that it's a good thing we sold Ramsey because we are saving a fortune on his 100k or so wages he's now getting.

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:36 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:How's the government's 'Brexit contract with the people' going? https://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status ... 19200?s=20
Seems to be a fail in every box.

Brexit has cost the UK more than we've ever put in already. No US trade deal, no EU trade deal. A 27 acre lorry park (1 of about 12) in Kent. Support for Scottish, Welsh, and Irish independence is higher than ever. Food and medicine shortages, majority of businesses unprepared.
You're right, you are a real winner here.
Just say you hate Britain and be done with it.


2 Days ago the EU agreed a €750 billion Covid recovery fund which will be given mainly to the Southern states (Spain, Portugal, Italy & Greece) in the form of grants and loans. They also agreed a further €1.2 trillion 7 year budget.

If we were still in the EU our contribution to that little lot would have been around €350 billion :o

How you can claim BREXIT has already cost the UK more than ever is beyond belief as we have saved a fortune before we have even fully left the EU.

Do you have the source that we'd have paid that much?

Your argument doesn't really work as we've contributed a figure and anything in the future is irrelevant to that figure. You can't say that it's a good thing we sold Ramsey because we are saving a fortune on his 100k or so wages he's now getting.



very good analogy.... you can clearly see the comparison ,almost identical...need to send it to Femi for him to use when he needs a KO blow in a debate.. no coming back from that..

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:12 pm

skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:How's the government's 'Brexit contract with the people' going? https://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status ... 19200?s=20
Seems to be a fail in every box.

Brexit has cost the UK more than we've ever put in already. No US trade deal, no EU trade deal. A 27 acre lorry park (1 of about 12) in Kent. Support for Scottish, Welsh, and Irish independence is higher than ever. Food and medicine shortages, majority of businesses unprepared.
You're right, you are a real winner here.
Just say you hate Britain and be done with it.


2 Days ago the EU agreed a €750 billion Covid recovery fund which will be given mainly to the Southern states (Spain, Portugal, Italy & Greece) in the form of grants and loans. They also agreed a further €1.2 trillion 7 year budget.

If we were still in the EU our contribution to that little lot would have been around €350 billion :o

How you can claim BREXIT has already cost the UK more than ever is beyond belief as we have saved a fortune before we have even fully left the EU.

Do you have the source that we'd have paid that much?

Your argument doesn't really work as we've contributed a figure and anything in the future is irrelevant to that figure. You can't say that it's a good thing we sold Ramsey because we are saving a fortune on his 100k or so wages he's now getting.



very good analogy.... you can clearly see the comparison ,almost identical...need to send it to Femi for him to use when he needs a KO blow in a debate.. no coming back from that..


Thoughts on the video?

That'll shut him up.

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:21 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:How's the government's 'Brexit contract with the people' going? https://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status ... 19200?s=20
Seems to be a fail in every box.

Brexit has cost the UK more than we've ever put in already. No US trade deal, no EU trade deal. A 27 acre lorry park (1 of about 12) in Kent. Support for Scottish, Welsh, and Irish independence is higher than ever. Food and medicine shortages, majority of businesses unprepared.
You're right, you are a real winner here.
Just say you hate Britain and be done with it.


2 Days ago the EU agreed a €750 billion Covid recovery fund which will be given mainly to the Southern states (Spain, Portugal, Italy & Greece) in the form of grants and loans. They also agreed a further €1.2 trillion 7 year budget.

If we were still in the EU our contribution to that little lot would have been around €350 billion :o

How you can claim BREXIT has already cost the UK more than ever is beyond belief as we have saved a fortune before we have even fully left the EU.

Do you have the source that we'd have paid that much?

Your argument doesn't really work as we've contributed a figure and anything in the future is irrelevant to that figure. You can't say that it's a good thing we sold Ramsey because we are saving a fortune on his 100k or so wages he's now getting.



very good analogy.... you can clearly see the comparison ,almost identical...need to send it to Femi for him to use when he needs a KO blow in a debate.. no coming back from that..


Thoughts on the video?

That'll shut him up.



truth is i havent watched it... nor have i been down the local rehab to check out any other non working , non contributing peoples views down there ... and say it like it is those people probably have a much greater grip on life and reality than Mr activist... got to love that word, a generation of people thinking that being a self proclaimed activist is something

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:39 pm

skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:How's the government's 'Brexit contract with the people' going? https://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status ... 19200?s=20
Seems to be a fail in every box.

Brexit has cost the UK more than we've ever put in already. No US trade deal, no EU trade deal. A 27 acre lorry park (1 of about 12) in Kent. Support for Scottish, Welsh, and Irish independence is higher than ever. Food and medicine shortages, majority of businesses unprepared.
You're right, you are a real winner here.
Just say you hate Britain and be done with it.


2 Days ago the EU agreed a €750 billion Covid recovery fund which will be given mainly to the Southern states (Spain, Portugal, Italy & Greece) in the form of grants and loans. They also agreed a further €1.2 trillion 7 year budget.

If we were still in the EU our contribution to that little lot would have been around €350 billion :o

How you can claim BREXIT has already cost the UK more than ever is beyond belief as we have saved a fortune before we have even fully left the EU.

Do you have the source that we'd have paid that much?

Your argument doesn't really work as we've contributed a figure and anything in the future is irrelevant to that figure. You can't say that it's a good thing we sold Ramsey because we are saving a fortune on his 100k or so wages he's now getting.



very good analogy.... you can clearly see the comparison ,almost identical...need to send it to Femi for him to use when he needs a KO blow in a debate.. no coming back from that..


Thoughts on the video?

That'll shut him up.



truth is i havent watched it... nor have i been down the local rehab to check out any other non working , non contributing peoples views down there ... and say it like it is those people probably have a much greater grip on life and reality than Mr activist... got to love that word, a generation of people thinking that being a self proclaimed activist is something

Don't worry, he doesn't feature in the video. It's features the likes of trump, the US trade negotiator, Farage (although he doesn't work so evidently you won't listen to him), etc saying that the NHS and healthcare will be on the table. I suppose you can watch it now.

And he does work, if you'd properly researched him you'd know that.

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:52 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
bill22322 wrote:So what EU law are Brexiteers on here most looking forward to getting rid of then?


Freedom of Movement


There will still be some freedom of movement from EU member countries. Plus EU citizens already over here will be allowed to stay as well. How do you think ending Freedom of Movement will improve the country ? ( Not being facetious here, I'm interested to hear what people think about it)

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:18 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:How's the government's 'Brexit contract with the people' going? https://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status ... 19200?s=20
Seems to be a fail in every box.

Brexit has cost the UK more than we've ever put in already. No US trade deal, no EU trade deal. A 27 acre lorry park (1 of about 12) in Kent. Support for Scottish, Welsh, and Irish independence is higher than ever. Food and medicine shortages, majority of businesses unprepared.
You're right, you are a real winner here.
Just say you hate Britain and be done with it.


2 Days ago the EU agreed a €750 billion Covid recovery fund which will be given mainly to the Southern states (Spain, Portugal, Italy & Greece) in the form of grants and loans. They also agreed a further €1.2 trillion 7 year budget.

If we were still in the EU our contribution to that little lot would have been around €350 billion :o

How you can claim BREXIT has already cost the UK more than ever is beyond belief as we have saved a fortune before we have even fully left the EU.

Do you have the source that we'd have paid that much?

Your argument doesn't really work as we've contributed a figure and anything in the future is irrelevant to that figure. You can't say that it's a good thing we sold Ramsey because we are saving a fortune on his 100k or so wages he's now getting.



very good analogy.... you can clearly see the comparison ,almost identical...need to send it to Femi for him to use when he needs a KO blow in a debate.. no coming back from that..


Thoughts on the video?

That'll shut him up.



truth is i havent watched it... nor have i been down the local rehab to check out any other non working , non contributing peoples views down there ... and say it like it is those people probably have a much greater grip on life and reality than Mr activist... got to love that word, a generation of people thinking that being a self proclaimed activist is something

Don't worry, he doesn't feature in the video. It's features the likes of trump, the US trade negotiator, Farage (although he doesn't work so evidently you won't listen to him), etc saying that the NHS and healthcare will be on the table. I suppose you can watch it now.

And he does work, if you'd properly researched him you'd know that.



how about explaining this ...on the table Josh...instead of just shouting selling the NHS try winning us over and tell us what might happen and its effects on us...
and..is he a policeman ?

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:51 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:
spikeferndale wrote:Skidemin,
Your last comment that the people of Wales vote for the Labour Party because their grandfather's did leaves you down.
Do you not think that Welsh people are capable of making decisions of which party will serve their interests best?
Last time I looked we allegedly lived in a democracy.To suggest otherwise, I would like some facts to back up your statement.
Or is it just your opinion?
If it is, that's ok.
Everybody's entitled to an opinion.


It's a very valid argument and one you let yourself down on picking on. Plenty on here have said it. I've heard many say it too face to face. "I could never vote for them Tories" when questioned it Ultimately comes back to "look at what Thatcher did to the miners" - where do you think they heard that?! I'm talking about 30oddyear old blokes! That opinion is rife around the valleys. Slowly going, but still there.

And a quick Google search. These are such quotes from said Grandparents...
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wale ... g-17347865

he will vote for the Labour Party no matter what

he says would not vote for the Tories if his life depended on it.

but coming from a small mining village like Abertillery people always seem to vote for Labour regardless

Really I should be voting Conservative as they want to leave Europe the same as me, but I just don't want to do that.

There's your facts. Democracy yes. Vote for who they like. But you have to at least open your ears to everyone.


As much as the Tories view on BREXIT matches my own I will never vote for the Conservative Party. Like many others my reference point is what happened in the 1980's and how industry was purposely dismantled in order to destroy the Union base.

However, today's Labour Party does not represent the party I supported for years. It is a cliche but it is run by an elite which has nothing in common with me or the working class in the Welsh valleys. This elite's support for remain during BREXIT was clear evidence of that.

The likes of Jeremy Corbyn, Dianne Abbot, John McDonnell & Dawn Butler believed fully in Anti-Semitism and hated everything which was British and were more loyal to Russia than the UK.

It breaks my heart to see the mess they have made of a once great party which has done so much good over its 100 year existence. Sadly it will take decades to repair them and I doubt I will see a Labour Government again within my lifetime.



All valid points - so would you be ok to send your children down the pit to work ?
I wouldnt

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:41 pm

Good thing there’s no Brexit deal.. the way those french and Spanish piranhas have stripped our seas in the last 30 years has been disgraceful, aided by the quota owners here. Fish stocks are perilously low.

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:27 pm

ReesWestonSuperMare wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:
spikeferndale wrote:Skidemin,
Your last comment that the people of Wales vote for the Labour Party because their grandfather's did leaves you down.
Do you not think that Welsh people are capable of making decisions of which party will serve their interests best?
Last time I looked we allegedly lived in a democracy.To suggest otherwise, I would like some facts to back up your statement.
Or is it just your opinion?
If it is, that's ok.
Everybody's entitled to an opinion.


It's a very valid argument and one you let yourself down on picking on. Plenty on here have said it. I've heard many say it too face to face. "I could never vote for them Tories" when questioned it Ultimately comes back to "look at what Thatcher did to the miners" - where do you think they heard that?! I'm talking about 30oddyear old blokes! That opinion is rife around the valleys. Slowly going, but still there.

And a quick Google search. These are such quotes from said Grandparents...
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wale ... g-17347865

he will vote for the Labour Party no matter what

he says would not vote for the Tories if his life depended on it.

but coming from a small mining village like Abertillery people always seem to vote for Labour regardless

Really I should be voting Conservative as they want to leave Europe the same as me, but I just don't want to do that.

There's your facts. Democracy yes. Vote for who they like. But you have to at least open your ears to everyone.


As much as the Tories view on BREXIT matches my own I will never vote for the Conservative Party. Like many others my reference point is what happened in the 1980's and how industry was purposely dismantled in order to destroy the Union base.

However, today's Labour Party does not represent the party I supported for years. It is a cliche but it is run by an elite which has nothing in common with me or the working class in the Welsh valleys. This elite's support for remain during BREXIT was clear evidence of that.

The likes of Jeremy Corbyn, Dianne Abbot, John McDonnell & Dawn Butler believed fully in Anti-Semitism and hated everything which was British and were more loyal to Russia than the UK.

It breaks my heart to see the mess they have made of a once great party which has done so much good over its 100 year existence. Sadly it will take decades to repair them and I doubt I will see a Labour Government again within my lifetime.



All valid points - so would you be ok to send your children down the pit to work ?
I wouldnt



i wouldnt either...

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:30 am

skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:How's the government's 'Brexit contract with the people' going? https://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status ... 19200?s=20
Seems to be a fail in every box.

Brexit has cost the UK more than we've ever put in already. No US trade deal, no EU trade deal. A 27 acre lorry park (1 of about 12) in Kent. Support for Scottish, Welsh, and Irish independence is higher than ever. Food and medicine shortages, majority of businesses unprepared.
You're right, you are a real winner here.
Just say you hate Britain and be done with it.


2 Days ago the EU agreed a €750 billion Covid recovery fund which will be given mainly to the Southern states (Spain, Portugal, Italy & Greece) in the form of grants and loans. They also agreed a further €1.2 trillion 7 year budget.

If we were still in the EU our contribution to that little lot would have been around €350 billion :o

How you can claim BREXIT has already cost the UK more than ever is beyond belief as we have saved a fortune before we have even fully left the EU.

Do you have the source that we'd have paid that much?

Your argument doesn't really work as we've contributed a figure and anything in the future is irrelevant to that figure. You can't say that it's a good thing we sold Ramsey because we are saving a fortune on his 100k or so wages he's now getting.



very good analogy.... you can clearly see the comparison ,almost identical...need to send it to Femi for him to use when he needs a KO blow in a debate.. no coming back from that..


Thoughts on the video?

That'll shut him up.



truth is i havent watched it... nor have i been down the local rehab to check out any other non working , non contributing peoples views down there ... and say it like it is those people probably have a much greater grip on life and reality than Mr activist... got to love that word, a generation of people thinking that being a self proclaimed activist is something

Don't worry, he doesn't feature in the video. It's features the likes of trump, the US trade negotiator, Farage (although he doesn't work so evidently you won't listen to him), etc saying that the NHS and healthcare will be on the table. I suppose you can watch it now.

And he does work, if you'd properly researched him you'd know that.



how about explaining this ...on the table Josh...instead of just shouting selling the NHS try winning us over and tell us what might happen and its effects on us...
and..is he a policeman ?

I don't get the policeman bit tbh

I'll let a brexiteer answer that as they knew exactly what they voted for (including all the contradictory bits and lies).

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:53 pm

72 Billion Pounds saved from leaving the EU :)

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... est-update

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:07 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:How's the government's 'Brexit contract with the people' going? https://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status ... 19200?s=20
Seems to be a fail in every box.

Brexit has cost the UK more than we've ever put in already. No US trade deal, no EU trade deal. A 27 acre lorry park (1 of about 12) in Kent. Support for Scottish, Welsh, and Irish independence is higher than ever. Food and medicine shortages, majority of businesses unprepared.
You're right, you are a real winner here.
Just say you hate Britain and be done with it.


2 Days ago the EU agreed a €750 billion Covid recovery fund which will be given mainly to the Southern states (Spain, Portugal, Italy & Greece) in the form of grants and loans. They also agreed a further €1.2 trillion 7 year budget.

If we were still in the EU our contribution to that little lot would have been around €350 billion :o

How you can claim BREXIT has already cost the UK more than ever is beyond belief as we have saved a fortune before we have even fully left the EU.

Do you have the source that we'd have paid that much?

Your argument doesn't really work as we've contributed a figure and anything in the future is irrelevant to that figure. You can't say that it's a good thing we sold Ramsey because we are saving a fortune on his 100k or so wages he's now getting.



very good analogy.... you can clearly see the comparison ,almost identical...need to send it to Femi for him to use when he needs a KO blow in a debate.. no coming back from that..


Thoughts on the video?

That'll shut him up.



truth is i havent watched it... nor have i been down the local rehab to check out any other non working , non contributing peoples views down there ... and say it like it is those people probably have a much greater grip on life and reality than Mr activist... got to love that word, a generation of people thinking that being a self proclaimed activist is something

Don't worry, he doesn't feature in the video. It's features the likes of trump, the US trade negotiator, Farage (although he doesn't work so evidently you won't listen to him), etc saying that the NHS and healthcare will be on the table. I suppose you can watch it now.

And he does work, if you'd properly researched him you'd know that.



how about explaining this ...on the table Josh...instead of just shouting selling the NHS try winning us over and tell us what might happen and its effects on us...
and..is he a policeman ?

I don't get the policeman bit tbh

I'll let a brexiteer answer that as they knew exactly what they voted for (including all the contradictory bits and lies).



you bumped this thread to make this femiparrot point....
now i think you should either admit your wrong or explain it...
policeman was a sarcastic wild guess...random...knowing what ever job i put its not the one

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:29 pm

skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:How's the government's 'Brexit contract with the people' going? https://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status ... 19200?s=20
Seems to be a fail in every box.

Brexit has cost the UK more than we've ever put in already. No US trade deal, no EU trade deal. A 27 acre lorry park (1 of about 12) in Kent. Support for Scottish, Welsh, and Irish independence is higher than ever. Food and medicine shortages, majority of businesses unprepared.
You're right, you are a real winner here.
Just say you hate Britain and be done with it.


2 Days ago the EU agreed a €750 billion Covid recovery fund which will be given mainly to the Southern states (Spain, Portugal, Italy & Greece) in the form of grants and loans. They also agreed a further €1.2 trillion 7 year budget.

If we were still in the EU our contribution to that little lot would have been around €350 billion :o

How you can claim BREXIT has already cost the UK more than ever is beyond belief as we have saved a fortune before we have even fully left the EU.

Do you have the source that we'd have paid that much?

Your argument doesn't really work as we've contributed a figure and anything in the future is irrelevant to that figure. You can't say that it's a good thing we sold Ramsey because we are saving a fortune on his 100k or so wages he's now getting.



very good analogy.... you can clearly see the comparison ,almost identical...need to send it to Femi for him to use when he needs a KO blow in a debate.. no coming back from that..


Thoughts on the video?

That'll shut him up.



truth is i havent watched it... nor have i been down the local rehab to check out any other non working , non contributing peoples views down there ... and say it like it is those people probably have a much greater grip on life and reality than Mr activist... got to love that word, a generation of people thinking that being a self proclaimed activist is something

Don't worry, he doesn't feature in the video. It's features the likes of trump, the US trade negotiator, Farage (although he doesn't work so evidently you won't listen to him), etc saying that the NHS and healthcare will be on the table. I suppose you can watch it now.

And he does work, if you'd properly researched him you'd know that.



how about explaining this ...on the table Josh...instead of just shouting selling the NHS try winning us over and tell us what might happen and its effects on us...
and..is he a policeman ?

I don't get the policeman bit tbh

I'll let a brexiteer answer that as they knew exactly what they voted for (including all the contradictory bits and lies).



you bumped this thread to make this femiparrot point....
now i think you should either admit your wrong or explain it...
policeman was a sarcastic wild guess...random...knowing what ever job i put its not the one

You brought him up though. I didn't mention anything about him before you starting banging on about him.

Are you asking me to explain why abandoning all our trade deals and leaving us with one main option who have specifically said any trade deal will include an increase in their charges of healthcare and medicine costs will lead to us having to pay more money for our medicine? Or are you asking about the incompetence of the Tories which will give us an awful deal?

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:42 pm

no Josh i did not bring him up, someone else found it quite funny who your using as a source, so i looked.

and am i reading this correctly ? in amongst an anti Tory rant your selling the NHS claims boil down to maybe having to pay more for medicines ?

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:18 pm

skidemin wrote:no Josh i did not bring him up, someone else found it quite funny who your using as a source, so i looked.

and am i reading this correctly ? in amongst an anti Tory rant your selling the NHS claims boil down to maybe having to pay more for medicines ?

1st post doesn't mention him
1st reply (mine) doesn't mention him
2nd reply (yours) 'give it half an hour for him to research Femis views'.

Defund, privatise, increase costs. Think the NHS will survive? And that's ignoring the delays to medicine and loss of healthcare cooperation schemes with a no deal brexit.

But don't worry, at least you can have a blue passport* (which you could've already had)
*Made in Poland.

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:38 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:no Josh i did not bring him up, someone else found it quite funny who your using as a source, so i looked.

and am i reading this correctly ? in amongst an anti Tory rant your selling the NHS claims boil down to maybe having to pay more for medicines ?

1st post doesn't mention him
1st reply (mine) doesn't mention him
2nd reply (yours) 'give it half an hour for him to research Femis views'.

Defund, privatise, increase costs. Think the NHS will survive? And that's ignoring the delays to medicine and loss of healthcare cooperation schemes with a no deal brexit.

But don't worry, at least you can have a blue passport* (which you could've already had)
*Made in Poland.



bit pedantic... but yes it was on another similarly named thread that he was mentioned , a week ago i had zero knowledge of him...
so selling the NHS amounts to stuff that is NOT SELLING THE NHS.. .. what i do not understand is when youve swallowed and repeated something parrot fashion only to find out it was lies, exaggerations and rubbish... how you do not reset instead of just hammering now completely different shapes into the wrong shaped holes...
no government has ever reduced NHS funding.. you simply cant because each year there are more new treatments and more patients, private hospitals already do work for the NHS and have done for years. its still free to public...
and do i think it will survive ? yes mate im not a conspiracy theorist .
nothing youve said goes close to selling off the NHS ..you know this so want to move on to passports or any other anti Tory crap .

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:53 pm

skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:no Josh i did not bring him up, someone else found it quite funny who your using as a source, so i looked.

and am i reading this correctly ? in amongst an anti Tory rant your selling the NHS claims boil down to maybe having to pay more for medicines ?

1st post doesn't mention him
1st reply (mine) doesn't mention him
2nd reply (yours) 'give it half an hour for him to research Femis views'.

Defund, privatise, increase costs. Think the NHS will survive? And that's ignoring the delays to medicine and loss of healthcare cooperation schemes with a no deal brexit.

But don't worry, at least you can have a blue passport* (which you could've already had)
*Made in Poland.



bit pedantic... but yes it was on another similarly named thread that he was mentioned , a week ago i had zero knowledge of him...
so selling the NHS amounts to stuff that is NOT SELLING THE NHS.. .. what i do not understand is when youve swallowed and repeated something parrot fashion only to find out it was lies, exaggerations and rubbish... how you do not reset instead of just hammering now completely different shapes into the wrong shaped holes...
no government has ever reduced NHS funding.. you simply cant because each year there are more new treatments and more patients, private hospitals already do work for the NHS and have done for years. its still free to public...
and do i think it will survive ? yes mate im not a conspiracy theorist .
nothing youve said goes close to selling off the NHS ..you know this so want to move on to passports or any other anti Tory crap .


https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2019-02-27-br ... mic-report

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/br ... s-reveals/

Damn those conspiracy theories at the journal of epidemiology and community health.

Just to confirm. You do know that selling the NHS doesn't mean in a footballing term. We won't be shipping our hospitals and staff after accepting a £1 million deal from Iran.

'Trump doesn’t actually want ‘the NHS’ as a whole," Lee explains, "only the profit-making parts, like data, support and back office services, planned easy surgery, drug price hikes.'

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:59 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:no Josh i did not bring him up, someone else found it quite funny who your using as a source, so i looked.

and am i reading this correctly ? in amongst an anti Tory rant your selling the NHS claims boil down to maybe having to pay more for medicines ?

1st post doesn't mention him
1st reply (mine) doesn't mention him
2nd reply (yours) 'give it half an hour for him to research Femis views'.

Defund, privatise, increase costs. Think the NHS will survive? And that's ignoring the delays to medicine and loss of healthcare cooperation schemes with a no deal brexit.

But don't worry, at least you can have a blue passport* (which you could've already had)
*Made in Poland.



bit pedantic... but yes it was on another similarly named thread that he was mentioned , a week ago i had zero knowledge of him...
so selling the NHS amounts to stuff that is NOT SELLING THE NHS.. .. what i do not understand is when youve swallowed and repeated something parrot fashion only to find out it was lies, exaggerations and rubbish... how you do not reset instead of just hammering now completely different shapes into the wrong shaped holes...
no government has ever reduced NHS funding.. you simply cant because each year there are more new treatments and more patients, private hospitals already do work for the NHS and have done for years. its still free to public...
and do i think it will survive ? yes mate im not a conspiracy theorist .
nothing youve said goes close to selling off the NHS ..you know this so want to move on to passports or any other anti Tory crap .


https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2019-02-27-br ... mic-report

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/br ... s-reveals/

Damn those conspiracy theories at the journal of epidemiology and community health.

Just to confirm. You do know that selling the NHS doesn't mean in a footballing term. We won't be shipping our hospitals and staff after accepting a £1 million deal from Iran.

'Trump doesn’t actually want ‘the NHS’ as a whole," Lee explains, "only the profit-making parts, like data, support and back office services, planned easy surgery, drug price hikes.'



honestly mate, its taken so long for any sort of firm answer i thought, im sure others thought the same . that YOU thought thats what selling it means...now be honest..you did ,didnt you.. otherwise why not spit it out in the beginning..
anyway ,at least now youve seen we are not selling it... shame you now have to twist and adjust your thinking, but eh oh, if you didnt you just wouldnt be Josh..

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:22 pm

skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:no Josh i did not bring him up, someone else found it quite funny who your using as a source, so i looked.

and am i reading this correctly ? in amongst an anti Tory rant your selling the NHS claims boil down to maybe having to pay more for medicines ?

1st post doesn't mention him
1st reply (mine) doesn't mention him
2nd reply (yours) 'give it half an hour for him to research Femis views'.

Defund, privatise, increase costs. Think the NHS will survive? And that's ignoring the delays to medicine and loss of healthcare cooperation schemes with a no deal brexit.

But don't worry, at least you can have a blue passport* (which you could've already had)
*Made in Poland.



bit pedantic... but yes it was on another similarly named thread that he was mentioned , a week ago i had zero knowledge of him...
so selling the NHS amounts to stuff that is NOT SELLING THE NHS.. .. what i do not understand is when youve swallowed and repeated something parrot fashion only to find out it was lies, exaggerations and rubbish... how you do not reset instead of just hammering now completely different shapes into the wrong shaped holes...
no government has ever reduced NHS funding.. you simply cant because each year there are more new treatments and more patients, private hospitals already do work for the NHS and have done for years. its still free to public...
and do i think it will survive ? yes mate im not a conspiracy theorist .
nothing youve said goes close to selling off the NHS ..you know this so want to move on to passports or any other anti Tory crap .


https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2019-02-27-br ... mic-report

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/br ... s-reveals/

Damn those conspiracy theories at the journal of epidemiology and community health.

Just to confirm. You do know that selling the NHS doesn't mean in a footballing term. We won't be shipping our hospitals and staff after accepting a £1 million deal from Iran.

'Trump doesn’t actually want ‘the NHS’ as a whole," Lee explains, "only the profit-making parts, like data, support and back office services, planned easy surgery, drug price hikes.'



honestly mate, its taken so long for any sort of firm answer i thought, im sure others thought the same . that YOU thought thats what selling it means...now be honest..you did ,didnt you.. otherwise why not spit it out in the beginning..
anyway ,at least now youve seen we are not selling it... shame you now have to twist and adjust your thinking, but eh oh, if you didnt you just wouldnt be Josh..


C'mon Mikey. Don't try and project that on me.
You can admit that your actions will now lead to our NHS going down the pan (and before you bring it up I know it's not a real pan) and medicine shortages and price increases that will cause people to die. Or you can do the classic Mikey tactic of shoving your head in the sand and calling everyone a liar.

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:56 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:no Josh i did not bring him up, someone else found it quite funny who your using as a source, so i looked.

and am i reading this correctly ? in amongst an anti Tory rant your selling the NHS claims boil down to maybe having to pay more for medicines ?

1st post doesn't mention him
1st reply (mine) doesn't mention him
2nd reply (yours) 'give it half an hour for him to research Femis views'.

Defund, privatise, increase costs. Think the NHS will survive? And that's ignoring the delays to medicine and loss of healthcare cooperation schemes with a no deal brexit.

But don't worry, at least you can have a blue passport* (which you could've already had)
*Made in Poland.



bit pedantic... but yes it was on another similarly named thread that he was mentioned , a week ago i had zero knowledge of him...
so selling the NHS amounts to stuff that is NOT SELLING THE NHS.. .. what i do not understand is when youve swallowed and repeated something parrot fashion only to find out it was lies, exaggerations and rubbish... how you do not reset instead of just hammering now completely different shapes into the wrong shaped holes...
no government has ever reduced NHS funding.. you simply cant because each year there are more new treatments and more patients, private hospitals already do work for the NHS and have done for years. its still free to public...
and do i think it will survive ? yes mate im not a conspiracy theorist .
nothing youve said goes close to selling off the NHS ..you know this so want to move on to passports or any other anti Tory crap .


https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2019-02-27-br ... mic-report

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/br ... s-reveals/

Damn those conspiracy theories at the journal of epidemiology and community health.

Just to confirm. You do know that selling the NHS doesn't mean in a footballing term. We won't be shipping our hospitals and staff after accepting a £1 million deal from Iran.

'Trump doesn’t actually want ‘the NHS’ as a whole," Lee explains, "only the profit-making parts, like data, support and back office services, planned easy surgery, drug price hikes.'



honestly mate, its taken so long for any sort of firm answer i thought, im sure others thought the same . that YOU thought thats what selling it means...now be honest..you did ,didnt you.. otherwise why not spit it out in the beginning..
anyway ,at least now youve seen we are not selling it... shame you now have to twist and adjust your thinking, but eh oh, if you didnt you just wouldnt be Josh..


C'mon Mikey. Don't try and project that on me.
You can admit that your actions will now lead to our NHS going down the pan (and before you bring it up I know it's not a real pan) and medicine shortages and price increases that will cause people to die. Or you can do the classic Mikey tactic of shoving your head in the sand and calling everyone a liar.



no projection needed... the NHS is there and will continue to be there... its you that have claimed otherwise.. always vaguely and the more the penny drops and you dont have answers the vaguer it gets... you simply cannot sell the NHS ..its really right up there with the most stupid things anyone has ever said...
and you can call me mikey all you like :laughing5: :laughing5: could be far worse, someone who talks a load of Tosh and is named Josh...nah nah, nah nah nah..

Re: Boris and farage battered you

Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:35 pm

skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
skidemin wrote:no Josh i did not bring him up, someone else found it quite funny who your using as a source, so i looked.

and am i reading this correctly ? in amongst an anti Tory rant your selling the NHS claims boil down to maybe having to pay more for medicines ?

1st post doesn't mention him
1st reply (mine) doesn't mention him
2nd reply (yours) 'give it half an hour for him to research Femis views'.

Defund, privatise, increase costs. Think the NHS will survive? And that's ignoring the delays to medicine and loss of healthcare cooperation schemes with a no deal brexit.

But don't worry, at least you can have a blue passport* (which you could've already had)
*Made in Poland.



bit pedantic... but yes it was on another similarly named thread that he was mentioned , a week ago i had zero knowledge of him...
so selling the NHS amounts to stuff that is NOT SELLING THE NHS.. .. what i do not understand is when youve swallowed and repeated something parrot fashion only to find out it was lies, exaggerations and rubbish... how you do not reset instead of just hammering now completely different shapes into the wrong shaped holes...
no government has ever reduced NHS funding.. you simply cant because each year there are more new treatments and more patients, private hospitals already do work for the NHS and have done for years. its still free to public...
and do i think it will survive ? yes mate im not a conspiracy theorist .
nothing youve said goes close to selling off the NHS ..you know this so want to move on to passports or any other anti Tory crap .


https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2019-02-27-br ... mic-report

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/br ... s-reveals/

Damn those conspiracy theories at the journal of epidemiology and community health.

Just to confirm. You do know that selling the NHS doesn't mean in a footballing term. We won't be shipping our hospitals and staff after accepting a £1 million deal from Iran.

'Trump doesn’t actually want ‘the NHS’ as a whole," Lee explains, "only the profit-making parts, like data, support and back office services, planned easy surgery, drug price hikes.'



honestly mate, its taken so long for any sort of firm answer i thought, im sure others thought the same . that YOU thought thats what selling it means...now be honest..you did ,didnt you.. otherwise why not spit it out in the beginning..
anyway ,at least now youve seen we are not selling it... shame you now have to twist and adjust your thinking, but eh oh, if you didnt you just wouldnt be Josh..


C'mon Mikey. Don't try and project that on me.
You can admit that your actions will now lead to our NHS going down the pan (and before you bring it up I know it's not a real pan) and medicine shortages and price increases that will cause people to die. Or you can do the classic Mikey tactic of shoving your head in the sand and calling everyone a liar.



no projection needed... the NHS is there and will continue to be there... its you that have claimed otherwise.. always vaguely and the more the penny drops and you dont have answers the vaguer it gets... you simply cannot sell the NHS ..its really right up there with the most stupid things anyone has ever said...
and you can call me mikey all you like :laughing5: :laughing5: could be far worse, someone who talks a load of Tosh and is named Josh...nah nah, nah nah nah..

f*cking hell you call me vague.
I've provided academic reports, quotes from presidents and people involved in the deals, opinions of doctors, government documents, etc etc.

Compared to you who has said.......
Erm.... 'nuh huh it won't go. La la la la I'm not listening.'