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Re: Swansea city

Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:21 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
What season we talking about? This one or our promotion year?

Sorry mate, this one.[/quote]

I’d imagine those bets will go to the wire. Big week ahead.

Re: Swansea city

Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:22 pm

YDdraigGwyn wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
What season we talking about? This one or our promotion year?

Sorry mate, this one.


I’d imagine those bets will go to the wire. Big week ahead.[/quote]
I agree. I’m sure it’ll very much go to the wire. I think it’ll be one of us two or Derby

Re: Swansea city

Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:48 pm

YDdraigGwyn wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:You drew away and won at home to Forest last time and beat Reading in the final.


Yes, I know that... I was there :D

During the season I’m talking about. We did the double over Reading comfortably. So comparing a situation like that (clearly being dominant over the other opponents) to this season where neither Swansea or Cardiff have managed to beat Brentford or Fulham in 8 attempts between us - suggests this seasons playoffs is a much tougher proposition.



not so sure....
points won by top 6 clubs against each other...
forest.....17 points
Brentford......15 points
Leeds..........13 points.
Cardiff.........12 points
Fulham.........11 points
WBA..........10 points...

if you were to replace us youve got 4 points...

Re: Swansea city

Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:50 pm

skidemin wrote:
YDdraigGwyn wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:You drew away and won at home to Forest last time and beat Reading in the final.


Yes, I know that... I was there :D

During the season I’m talking about. We did the double over Reading comfortably. So comparing a situation like that (clearly being dominant over the other opponents) to this season where neither Swansea or Cardiff have managed to beat Brentford or Fulham in 8 attempts between us - suggests this seasons playoffs is a much tougher proposition.



not so sure....
points won by top 6 clubs against each other...
forest.....17 points
Brentford......15 points
Leeds..........13 points.
Cardiff.........12 points
Fulham.........11 points
WBA..........10 points...

if you were to replace us youve got 4 points...


Not so sure about what?

As things stand, neither us or yourselves have beaten either Fulham or Brentford in 8 attempts this season.

The likelihood is whoever finishes 6th will be facing one of them and if we do manage to prevail over 2 legs - the other one will be waiting in the final.

Re: Swansea city

Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:04 pm

YDdraigGwyn wrote:
skidemin wrote:
YDdraigGwyn wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:You drew away and won at home to Forest last time and beat Reading in the final.


Yes, I know that... I was there :D

During the season I’m talking about. We did the double over Reading comfortably. So comparing a situation like that (clearly being dominant over the other opponents) to this season where neither Swansea or Cardiff have managed to beat Brentford or Fulham in 8 attempts between us - suggests this seasons playoffs is a much tougher proposition.



not so sure....
points won by top 6 clubs against each other...
forest.....17 points
Brentford......15 points
Leeds..........13 points.
Cardiff.........12 points
Fulham.........11 points
WBA..........10 points...

if you were to replace us youve got 4 points...


Not so sure about what?

As things stand, neither us or yourselves have beaten either Fulham or Brentford in 8 attempts this season.

The likelihood is whoever finishes 6th will be facing one of them and if we do manage to prevail over 2 legs - the other one will be waiting in the final.



we have drawn with both and are competitive against the better teams.

but anything Cardiff positive you knock.... always have always will......

Re: Swansea city

Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:08 pm

skidemin wrote:
YDdraigGwyn wrote:
skidemin wrote:
YDdraigGwyn wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:You drew away and won at home to Forest last time and beat Reading in the final.


Yes, I know that... I was there :D

During the season I’m talking about. We did the double over Reading comfortably. So comparing a situation like that (clearly being dominant over the other opponents) to this season where neither Swansea or Cardiff have managed to beat Brentford or Fulham in 8 attempts between us - suggests this seasons playoffs is a much tougher proposition.



not so sure....
points won by top 6 clubs against each other...
forest.....17 points
Brentford......15 points
Leeds..........13 points.
Cardiff.........12 points
Fulham.........11 points
WBA..........10 points...

if you were to replace us youve got 4 points...


Not so sure about what?

As things stand, neither us or yourselves have beaten either Fulham or Brentford in 8 attempts this season.

The likelihood is whoever finishes 6th will be facing one of them and if we do manage to prevail over 2 legs - the other one will be waiting in the final.



we have drawn with both and are competitive against the better teams.

but anything Cardiff positive you knock.... always have always will...


Don’t be so ludicrous, I say it as it is, always have. But people are very sensitive to the truth.

I don’t see how taking 2 points from 12 and winning zero is a positive to be fair. But if this is something you feel you need to vigorously defend as the reason you can beat both in succession then be my guest. :roll:

Re: Swansea city

Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:18 pm

YDdraigGwyn wrote:
skidemin wrote:
YDdraigGwyn wrote:
skidemin wrote:
YDdraigGwyn wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:You drew away and won at home to Forest last time and beat Reading in the final.


Yes, I know that... I was there :D

During the season I’m talking about. We did the double over Reading comfortably. So comparing a situation like that (clearly being dominant over the other opponents) to this season where neither Swansea or Cardiff have managed to beat Brentford or Fulham in 8 attempts between us - suggests this seasons playoffs is a much tougher proposition.



not so sure....
points won by top 6 clubs against each other...
forest.....17 points
Brentford......15 points
Leeds..........13 points.
Cardiff.........12 points
Fulham.........11 points
WBA..........10 points...

if you were to replace us youve got 4 points...


Not so sure about what?

As things stand, neither us or yourselves have beaten either Fulham or Brentford in 8 attempts this season.

The likelihood is whoever finishes 6th will be facing one of them and if we do manage to prevail over 2 legs - the other one will be waiting in the final.



we have drawn with both and are competitive against the better teams.

but anything Cardiff positive you knock.... always have always will...


Don’t be so ludicrous, I say it as it is, always have. But people are very sensitive to the truth.

I don’t see how taking 2 points from 12 and winning zero is a positive to be fair. But if this is something you feel you need to vigorously defend as the reason you can beat both in succession then be my guest. :roll:



its hardly vigorous... ive put some facts up and you dont like them....

Re: Swansea city

Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:21 pm

skidemin wrote:

its hardly vigorous... ive put some facts up and you dont like them....


I have no reason to like or dislike them, they seem irrelevant.

2 points out of a possible 12 and zero wins against the two teams in question is hardly worthy of a point being made. It essentially backs what I said in the first place.

But if you feel that strongly about it that you accuse me of “taking positives away from Cardiff” then as I said, be my guest.

Re: Swansea city

Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:32 pm

YDdraigGwyn wrote:
skidemin wrote:

its hardly vigorous... ive put some facts up and you dont like them....


I have no reason to like or dislike them, they seem irrelevant.

2 points out of a possible 12 and zero wins against the two teams in question is hardly worthy of a point being made. It essentially backs what I said in the first place.

But if you feel that strongly about it that you accuse me of “taking positives away from Cardiff” then as I said, be my guest.



i dont feel strongly about it...
just pointing out how top 6 record and what you do...have always done . which is then followed by this squirming, twisting dog with a bone thing...

Re: Swansea city

Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:45 pm

skidemin wrote:
YDdraigGwyn wrote:
skidemin wrote:

its hardly vigorous... ive put some facts up and you dont like them....


I have no reason to like or dislike them, they seem irrelevant.

2 points out of a possible 12 and zero wins against the two teams in question is hardly worthy of a point being made. It essentially backs what I said in the first place.

But if you feel that strongly about it that you accuse me of “taking positives away from Cardiff” then as I said, be my guest.



i dont feel strongly about it...
just pointing out how top 6 record and what you do...have always done . which is then followed by this squirming, twisting dog with a bone thing...


Where is the squirming or dog with a bone?

I said the likely path is Brentford and Fulham, teams which neither of us have beaten in 8 attempts combined.

You said you drew twice.... right, great.

So we both agree with my point that neither have beaten them this season then. Where is the need to squirm? I fear you are on a trolling mission today which is a shame for two reasons.

1) it makes you look silly, which is a shame because you have been ok in the past.
2) you will never beat me with nonsense. Which seems to be what you are relying on. So it’s a waste of effort all round.

Re: Swansea city

Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:26 pm

YDdraigGwyn wrote:It will also be either Brentford or Fulham first up in the play-offs for whoever makes it into 6th.

Between us both, we have had 8 attempts combined at beating them this season and not managed it once. The likelihood is the 6th placed team will need to beat them both in succession.

Very unlikely. Very.


Brentford have lost both games against Nots forest, and Fulham have lost one game against forest this season

Re: Swansea city

Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:03 pm

rontom wrote:
YDdraigGwyn wrote:It will also be either Brentford or Fulham first up in the play-offs for whoever makes it into 6th.

Between us both, we have had 8 attempts combined at beating them this season and not managed it once. The likelihood is the 6th placed team will need to beat them both in succession.

Very unlikely. Very.


Brentford have lost both games against Nots forest, and Fulham have lost one game against forest this season


Right. They won 3 out of 4 against both of us though. Convincingly.

Re: Swansea city

Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:24 am

Jacks got no chance given their run in. Its between us and Milwall IMO.

Re: Swansea city

Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:45 am

phildavies wrote:Jacks got no chance given their run in. Its between us and Milwall IMO.


I wouldn’t go that far. Important to be realistic at this stage. 1 point behind with a better goal difference gives us every chance.

My point is that regardless who gets 6th - there is very little chance of promotion over 3 games vs the two clubs we are discussing.

Re: Swansea city

Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:49 am

YDdraigGwyn wrote:
phildavies wrote:Jacks got no chance given their run in. Its between us and Milwall IMO.


I wouldn’t go that far. Important to be realistic at this stage. 1 point behind with a better goal difference gives us every chance.

My point is that regardless who gets 6th - there is very little chance of promotion over 3 games vs the two clubs we are discussing.


Just did my run in prediction on this https://www.worldfootball.net/table_cal ... mpionship/

I gave you 4 points from your last 3 which is pretty generous given who your playing in it and you still finished 10th with 67 points. We ended up 6th with 69 points above Millwall on goal difference just.

Re: Swansea city

Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:15 am

YDdraigGwyn wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:You drew away and won at home to Forest last time and beat Reading in the final.


Yes, I know that... I was there :D

During the season I’m talking about. We did the double over Reading comfortably. So comparing a situation like that (clearly being dominant over the other opponents) to this season where neither Swansea or Cardiff have managed to beat Brentford or Fulham in 8 attempts between us - suggests this seasons playoffs is a much tougher proposition.


Logic would tell you that's the case, but this is football and if either team won the next three in a row and went into them with confidence anything could happen.

The good news is we have an extra days recovery time over Derby, while you have a day less recovery over Forrest, so hopefully, we can take advantage, although I think seven more points would see us finish sixth.

Re: Swansea city

Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:00 pm

Be nice to see Brentford go up.. new ground and good to watch, good club.

Re: Swansea city

Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:30 pm

rumpo kid wrote:Be nice to see Brentford go up.. new ground and good to watch, good club.



They have been on fire since the re start,and now only a point behind WBA! If weeds lost two and draw one of their next 3 and the others win their final 2 games,weeds could fall to 3rd!! Anyway,let's just worry about us eh? Win the next 2 games and we are there in the mix,where anything is possible,Brentford held on to an early lead in their game last night,but didn't play particularly well,they could well sneak into top 2 though.and whoever drops out of autos will be devastated,after all both have been there for some time now.keep the gaith :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:

Re: Swansea city

Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:11 am

bluesince62 wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:Be nice to see Brentford go up.. new ground and good to watch, good club.



They have been on fire since the re start,and now only a point behind WBA! If weeds lost two and draw one of their next 3 and the others win their final 2 games,weeds could fall to 3rd!! Anyway,let's just worry about us eh? Win the next 2 games and we are there in the mix,where anything is possible,Brentford held on to an early lead in their game last night,but didn't play particularly well,they could well sneak into top 2 though.and whoever drops out of autos will be devastated,after all both have been there for some time now.keep the gaith :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:


Even if Leeds won a game and lost the other 2 they would end up third if the other won their games as WBA would be a point ahead of them and Brentford would be level but with a far superior goal difference.

Unlikely yes but not impossible as they have proven to be a team full of bottlers in the past and their manager is an expert in failure who has failed at every club job he has had in Europe. Would love it if the miracle happens and they blew it as I have no doubts we would also beat them in playoffs causing their fans and the media that bum them to go into meltdown :lol:

Re: Swansea city

Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:37 pm

Hmmmm looks like my prediction could be spot on. Will taste so sweet

Re: Swansea city

Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:03 pm

We were the better team both times against Fulham and home to Brentford. I’d give us a chance. What happened in season is irrelevant, it’s a new competition and very different to the league games. We are improving every game under Harris. Yes it will be hard but who thinks the playoffs are easy?!

Trick is (When P5/6) to win at home first and then sit back, make them chase the game and play on counter 2nd leg.

Re: Swansea city

Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:30 am

phildavies wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:Be nice to see Brentford go up.. new ground and good to watch, good club.



They have been on fire since the re start,and now only a point behind WBA! If weeds lost two and draw one of their next 3 and the others win their final 2 games,weeds could fall to 3rd!! Anyway,let's just worry about us eh? Win the next 2 games and we are there in the mix,where anything is possible,Brentford held on to an early lead in their game last night,but didn't play particularly well,they could well sneak into top 2 though.and whoever drops out of autos will be devastated,after all both have been there for some time now.keep the gaith :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:


Even if Leeds won a game and lost the other 2 they would end up third if the other won their games as WBA would be a point ahead of them and Brentford would be level but with a far superior goal difference.

Unlikely yes but not impossible as they have proven to be a team full of bottlers in the past and their manager is an expert in failure who has failed at every club job he has had in Europe. Would love it if the miracle happens and they blew it as I have no doubts we would also beat them in playoffs causing their fans and the media that bum them to go into meltdown :lol:



I've just cleaned the egg off my face! You? Can't believe west brom and Brentford have both lost,ahhh well,it's the play off lottery then :thumbup: has to be seen as a cup this year,in all honesty I believe we are not ready for the prem,pretty much how we wern't prepared for the last promotion, a manager has a responsibility to inform us fans,that our club is aiming for the top,albeit knowing we are not ready as we stand,and before anyone says I'm a killjoy,I certainly ain't, and will be dancing in the moonlight, if we achieve the dream,just like all of us (well maybe barring a few!) And my nerves have already started in the guts!!! Although eerie as it is at present,I am enjoying it better than I thought I would in all truth :thumbup: c'mon the bluebirds,let's fly high again!!! :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:

Re: Swansea city

Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:22 am

phildavies wrote:
YDdraigGwyn wrote:
phildavies wrote:Jacks got no chance given their run in. Its between us and Milwall IMO.


I wouldn’t go that far. Important to be realistic at this stage. 1 point behind with a better goal difference gives us every chance.

My point is that regardless who gets 6th - there is very little chance of promotion over 3 games vs the two clubs we are discussing.


Just did my run in prediction on this https://www.worldfootball.net/table_cal ... mpionship/

I gave you 4 points from your last 3 which is pretty generous given who your playing in it and you still finished 10th with 67 points. We ended up 6th with 69 points above Millwall on goal difference just.


Please stop making predictions you are terrible at them :lol:

Re: Swansea city

Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:02 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
phildavies wrote:
YDdraigGwyn wrote:
phildavies wrote:Jacks got no chance given their run in. Its between us and Milwall IMO.


I wouldn’t go that far. Important to be realistic at this stage. 1 point behind with a better goal difference gives us every chance.

My point is that regardless who gets 6th - there is very little chance of promotion over 3 games vs the two clubs we are discussing.


Just did my run in prediction on this https://www.worldfootball.net/table_cal ... mpionship/

I gave you 4 points from your last 3 which is pretty generous given who your playing in it and you still finished 10th with 67 points. We ended up 6th with 69 points above Millwall on goal difference just.


Please stop making predictions you are terrible at them :lol:


I wouldn’t say that’s a bad prediction given Swansea will finish with 67 points and we will finish 6th ;)

Also I was one of the few amongst the gloom and doomers on here that actually predicted that at worst we would be in the playoffs come the end of the season.

Re: Swansea city

Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:39 pm

phildavies wrote:
I wouldn’t say that’s a bad prediction given Swansea will finish with 67 points and we will finish 6th ;)

Also I was one of the few amongst the gloom and doomers on here that actually predicted that at worst we would be in the playoffs come the end of the season.


Keep making those predictions Phil. ;) :laughing6:

Re: Swansea city

Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:44 pm

Gotta say fair play to the Jacks. Yeah it took forest shitting the bed for them to get there but that's an incredible result.

The momentum in the semi is with them too after Brentford choked auto this week.

Re: Swansea city

Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:53 pm

stuey1981 wrote:Hmmmm looks like my prediction could be spot on. Will taste so sweet

Isn't there some old saying about counting you chickens before they're hatched ? :ugeek:

Re: Swansea city

Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:02 pm

paulh_85 wrote:Gotta say fair play to the Jacks. Yeah it took forest shitting the bed for them to get there but that's an incredible result.

The momentum in the semi is with them too after Brentford choked auto this week.


That's a good point. When we went up Fulham had momentum going in to the playoffs. This season. 3rd look shakey and it's the other sides looking more stable.

Re: Swansea city

Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:26 pm

phildavies wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
phildavies wrote:
YDdraigGwyn wrote:
phildavies wrote:Jacks got no chance given their run in. Its between us and Milwall IMO.


I wouldn’t go that far. Important to be realistic at this stage. 1 point behind with a better goal difference gives us every chance.

My point is that regardless who gets 6th - there is very little chance of promotion over 3 games vs the two clubs we are discussing.


Just did my run in prediction on this https://www.worldfootball.net/table_cal ... mpionship/

I gave you 4 points from your last 3 which is pretty generous given who your playing in it and you still finished 10th with 67 points. We ended up 6th with 69 points above Millwall on goal difference just.


Please stop making predictions you are terrible at them :lol:


I wouldn’t say that’s a bad prediction given Swansea will finish with 67 points and we will finish 6th ;)

Also I was one of the few amongst the gloom and doomers on here that actually predicted that at worst we would be in the playoffs come the end of the season.



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