Please read my view.

shame on BLM... because both you and they are pretending to care about black lives when you do not.

Oh my dear god. You're a lost cause. I can't believe you typed that, thought it was ok, then submitted it and still thought it was ok to say this. Can't be arsed.

yes mate, for you and what ever left wing group you belong to most people are lost causes...maybe if you actually gave a flying f**k about what your on about people would take you seriously...but you clearly don't, its just another cause in-between last months and next months..

I question the markings on the back of premier league shirts Rule 4 reads:-
any person(s), living or dead (unless part of the official competition name)
any local, regional, national or international political party/organisation/group, etc.
any local, regional or national government or any of its departments, offices or functions
any organisation which is discriminatory
any organisation whose aims/actions are likely to offend a notable number of people
any specific political act/event
All not permitted markings????

The guardian who once supported the slave trade. Close the Fooking rag down.

Doing BLM's job there Nukes

All lives can't matter until black lives do. It isn't difficult. If black people do nothing, nothing will change. When they do something, silently without hurting anyone, you complain. When they riot, you complain. Of course all lives matter but at the moment, black lives are less important and not just in the US, and that isn't OK.

You are making it out as if Black lives are 2nd class citizens.

A Black man has just as much of a chance to improve himself as a White man does in this country. You don't need to look far to see that.

I am a white man, I have never been racially abused or passed over for a job because of the colour of my skin. Black people have. All of my black friends have been racially abused in this country. I know that many black men and women are passed over for jobs, that is why there is a disproportionate number of black people in senior positions all over the country. Most people are decent however there is a sizeable minority that are not.

Absolutely correct. I've tried to stop posting on here in the last few days as I am so disappointed not only about some of the racist views being expressed but also the lack of education and ability to see it from the other side.

The OP has only re-emphasised that by stating that City fans have been "tolerant" towards some of our black players.

TOLERANT !! - what the hell have those people done to be merely tolerated !!?? It's that sort of supremacist attitude that got us in the mess that our society is now in, who the hell do you think you are to deign to tolerate a valuable part of our society I'm just waiting for the first "I'm not a racist but ......................" post

If our players want to protest let them protest. I would say the same if a white player didn't take part in the show of solidarity, it would their decision. Funnily enough, not one has, which hopefully indicates that the views on this board are not, in the main, shared by the majority our society.

That article is high on hyperbole, and low on evidence. I’ve worked with black/Asian guys for 30 years, and they’re paid the same rate as everybody else, different projects, different companies. Post whatever bullshit reinforces your fancy, but pay scales are absolute.

Let’s be honest, if you look to the Guardian for solace, it’s already too late.

The analysis is by the revolution foundation, not the Guardian. You can use that as your excuse to deny the truth and keep spinning your bigoted narrative though, if you want?

Resolution or Revolution? There is no evidence in that article whatsoever, apart from ‘analysis found that’.

Tell me which companies they analysed in order to produce their findings?

All lives can't matter until black lives do. It isn't difficult. If black people do nothing, nothing will change. When they do something, silently without hurting anyone, you complain. When they riot, you complain. Of course all lives matter but at the moment, black lives are less important and not just in the US, and that isn't OK.

What do you mean by "all lives can't matter until black lives do?"

Anyone who deliberately kills a black person will receive a life sentence as would a black man who deliberately kill a white person. That sounds to me that ALL lives matter and law doesn't discriminate on the grounds of colour.

All lives can't matter until black lives do. It isn't difficult. If black people do nothing, nothing will change. When they do something, silently without hurting anyone, you complain. When they riot, you complain. Of course all lives matter but at the moment, black lives are less important and not just in the US, and that isn't OK.

You are making it out as if Black lives are 2nd class citizens.

A Black man has just as much of a chance to improve himself as a White man does in this country. You don't need to look far to see that.

I am a white man, I have never been racially abused or passed over for a job because of the colour of my skin. Black people have. All of my black friends have been racially abused in this country. I know that many black men and women are passed over for jobs, that is why there is a disproportionate number of black people in senior positions all over the country. Most people are decent however there is a sizeable minority that are not.

Absolutely correct. I've tried to stop posting on here in the last few days as I am so disappointed not only about some of the racist views being expressed but also the lack of education and ability to see it from the other side.

The OP has only re-emphasised that by stating that City fans have been "tolerant" towards some of our black players.

TOLERANT !! - what the hell have those people done to be merely tolerated !!?? It's that sort of supremacist attitude that got us in the mess that our society is now in, who the hell do you think you are to deign to tolerate a valuable part of our society I'm just waiting for the first "I'm not a racist but ......................" post

If our players want to protest let them protest. I would say the same if a white player didn't take part in the show of solidarity, it would their decision. Funnily enough, not one has, which hopefully indicates that the views on this board are not, in the main, shared by the majority our society.

Ohh look at me I can twist a sentence to make it sound he meant something completely different. Nice one

I am a white man, I have never been racially abused or passed over for a job because of the colour of my skin. Black people have. All of my black friends have been racially abused in this country. I know that many black men and women are passed over for jobs, that is why there is a disproportionate number of black people in senior positions all over the country. Most people are decent however there is a sizeable minority that are not.

You might not be aware that you have been the subject of racial abuse but there is a high probability that you have. I used to live in an area high in Asian residents and I was told one day by an Asian friend that I had just been racially abuse by a group of Asian men in their own language. He informed me of the words and I listened out for them and I was astonished how often I would hear them when I passed groups of Asians.

Black men and women may have TOLD you they were passed over for jobs (presumably on the grounds of race) but you and them don't know why they were actually passed over it could be because a better qualified person (who may have also been black) got the job instead. If these people want to become more qualified then they should get off their arses and become better educated in how to perform a trade or technical job rather than crying about being a failure and blaming mythical racism and pointing fingers at white people

All lives can't matter until black lives do. It isn't difficult. If black people do nothing, nothing will change. When they do something, silently without hurting anyone, you complain. When they riot, you complain. Of course all lives matter but at the moment, black lives are less important and not just in the US, and that isn't OK.

You are making it out as if Black lives are 2nd class citizens.

A Black man has just as much of a chance to improve himself as a White man does in this country. You don't need to look far to see that.

I am a white man, I have never been racially abused or passed over for a job because of the colour of my skin. Black people have. All of my black friends have been racially abused in this country. I know that many black men and women are passed over for jobs, that is why there is a disproportionate number of black people in senior positions all over the country. Most people are decent however there is a sizeable minority that are not.

Absolutely correct. I've tried to stop posting on here in the last few days as I am so disappointed not only about some of the racist views being expressed but also the lack of education and ability to see it from the other side.

The OP has only re-emphasised that by stating that City fans have been "tolerant" towards some of our black players.

TOLERANT !! - what the hell have those people done to be merely tolerated !!?? It's that sort of supremacist attitude that got us in the mess that our society is now in, who the hell do you think you are to deign to tolerate a valuable part of our society I'm just waiting for the first "I'm not a racist but ......................" post

If our players want to protest let them protest. I would say the same if a white player didn't take part in the show of solidarity, it would their decision. Funnily enough, not one has, which hopefully indicates that the views on this board are not, in the main, shared by the majority our society.

Ohh look at me I can twist a sentence to make it sound he meant something completely different. Nice one

Totally agree. There are many contexts of the word 'tolerant'. Piledriver is simply using hysteria because he has nothing else to add to the debate.

Tony

Absolutely spot on.

I've said in previous posts, it's an excuse for some lazy black people not to get on.

Play the victim card.

We can say look at that family (white) been on benefits all there lives

But if it's a lazy black family, dont dare say the same thing

Its racist

Black & Asian folk are more protected in the UK than the white folk

And this recent nonsense

Proves it

Tony

Absolutely spot on.

I've said in previous posts, it's an excuse for some lazy black people not to get on.

Play the victim card.

We can say look at that family (white) been on benefits all there lives

But if it's a lazy black family, dont dare say the same thing

Its racist

Black & Asian folk are more protected in the UK than the white folk

And this recent nonsense

Proves it

Thanks City72 until all people (to use a phrase) 'are educated' that it is about personal responsibility and not race we will be continually having these nonsensical accusations of racism.

All lives can't matter until black lives do. It isn't difficult. If black people do nothing, nothing will change. When they do something, silently without hurting anyone, you complain. When they riot, you complain. Of course all lives matter but at the moment, black lives are less important and not just in the US, and that isn't OK.

What do you mean by "all lives can't matter until black lives do?"

Anyone who deliberately kills a black person will receive a life sentence as would a black man who deliberately kill a white person. That sounds to me that ALL lives matter and law doesn't discriminate on the grounds of colour.

Why are black people paid less than white people for the same job? Of course all lives matter, nobody is debating that.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... ite-people

Watch that. If you still disagree, I pity you.

I was so disappointed with our players taking the knee and those doing the Black power pump that was particularly stomach churning.
No these are millionaires most of them that have made money from the club the fans and sponsors. They have nothing in common now with those living in poverty and the ghettos. They have privileges we could only dream of.
Security for there kids and Grandkids. Now the slavery thing yes we have had a tainted past but the whole of humanity has had a tainted past no matter what colour they are.

They are there using their mobiles and technology that these tech firms use slavery in Africa and South America. Where do they get the materials for the batteries that run them ? Not Tesco that’s for sure.
They are mined using child slaves that will have vastly shortened lives but these BLM only are interested in the slave trade hundreds of years ago.
In Africa now the slave trade is huge but they are slaved by other Black tribes or criminals. Where is the fight against them ? Or that fight isn’t the in thing because they are not white oppressors.

You have other Black sportsmen like Hamilton who wears his Hugo Boss where that company made the uniforms for the Nazis. His company of which makes him him tens of millions used to make car parts from slave Labour. Does his morals say he dumps his gravy train ? No
Then you have Anthony Joshua who told a rally that they should only buy from black businesses despite most of his training camp being white, his promoters are white and the vast majority of his fan base is white. And where was his morals when fighting in Saudi Arabia ? Millions of pounds Make morals disappear.

Now our pampered stars that put aside there morals for the pound sign I would say if you think you are repressed then look up a sportsman called Jack Johnson he was a remarkable sportsman but he suffered horrific racist abuse. Most of you youngsters would of never heard of him so do your research on him.

One of BLM main financial backers is George Soros a Nazi collaborator who turned in fellow Jews and pillaged their property as a reward and he even admits to this. Where is there outrage.

Now one thing everyone needs to realise this whole episode has been orchestrated to have everyone fighting and now shit is getting real and these footballers need to realise they are putting petrol on the bonfire.

As Cardiff fans they are very tolerant we have worshipped black players like Robert Earnshaw, Nathan Blake, Danny Gabbidon, the Bennett Brothers to now Sol Bamba and who can ever forget the legend I saw Eddie score despite being shit gave us one of the most memorable goals at Ninian Park.
Black lives matter will breed white lives matter and there the hate and divide begins. What the establishment don’t want to here from blacks and whites is All Lives Matter. Why can’t we all agree on this ?

Not getting in another of these debates, I think most on here know my position by now on all of this and I'm tired of the constant false narratives and basic ignorance of those on the other side of this conversation. But just to say this is an excellent post and I agree with every bit of it

All lives can't matter until black lives do. It isn't difficult. If black people do nothing, nothing will change. When they do something, silently without hurting anyone, you complain. When they riot, you complain. Of course all lives matter but at the moment, black lives are less important and not just in the US, and that isn't OK.

You are making it out as if Black lives are 2nd class citizens.

A Black man has just as much of a chance to improve himself as a White man does in this country. You don't need to look far to see that.

I am a white man, I have never been racially abused or passed over for a job because of the colour of my skin. Black people have. All of my black friends have been racially abused in this country. I know that many black men and women are passed over for jobs, that is why there is a disproportionate number of black people in senior positions all over the country. Most people are decent however there is a sizeable minority that are not.

Absolutely correct. I've tried to stop posting on here in the last few days as I am so disappointed not only about some of the racist views being expressed but also the lack of education and ability to see it from the other side.

The OP has only re-emphasised that by stating that City fans have been "tolerant" towards some of our black players.

TOLERANT !! - what the hell have those people done to be merely tolerated !!?? It's that sort of supremacist attitude that got us in the mess that our society is now in, who the hell do you think you are to deign to tolerate a valuable part of our society I'm just waiting for the first "I'm not a racist but ......................" post

If our players want to protest let them protest. I would say the same if a white player didn't take part in the show of solidarity, it would their decision. Funnily enough, not one has, which hopefully indicates that the views on this board are not, in the main, shared by the majority our society.

Ohh look at me I can twist a sentence to make it sound he meant something completely different. Nice one

Totally agree. There are many contexts of the word 'tolerant'. Piledriver is simply using hysteria because he has nothing else to add to the debate.

So you would both use the word "tolerant" towards a white player ? Really ?

Just demonstrates that no matter what you say, or do, your attitude is different towards those of colour.

Ever heard of unconscious bias ? Look it up and educate yourselves.

There, is that enough to "add to the debate" ?

Unconscious bias is there no doubt. Conscious bias by definition is blm, or white lives matter. It’s still bias whichever way.

Ever heard of unconscious bias ? Look it up and educate yourselves.

This lazy false intellectual superiority is really starting to get tiresome. As someone who has educated themselves (literally) I politely ask you to look beyond the sound bites around implicit bias and answer a few questions I put to another poster who raised this topic on a previous thread.

I guess I would ask if implicit bias is a subconscious bias how do we regulate thought without entering into a minority report Orwellian dystopia?

And if we are to dismiss ideas of thought crime as fantasy then what explicit demonstrations of racial bias are either legal or socially acceptable in 2020?

Finally, if we are to accept the premise of implicit bias, which cards on the table I wholly reject, then what do you think the violent actions of BLM in recent weeks will have done in terms of the subconscious bias of the general population. Do you think that at the implicit, subconscious level the high profile violence and destruction of property will help reaffirm a positive subconcious stereotype within us collectively as a society? Have BLM raised awareness or sown seeds of dissent at the unconscious level?

As Kafka (the poster on this messageboard not that Czech fella) said, I think most of us are actually all on the same side in terms of the concept of racial equality. Just there are massive gaps in how we think it should be approached.

What do you think are our chances at Preston though lads

Ever heard of unconscious bias ? Look it up and educate yourselves.

This lazy false intellectual superiority is really starting to get tiresome. As someone who has educated themselves (literally) I politely ask you to look beyond the sound bites around implicit bias and answer a few questions I put to another poster who raised this topic on a previous thread.

I guess I would ask if implicit bias is a subconscious bias how do we regulate thought without entering into a minority report Orwellian dystopia?

And if we are to dismiss ideas of thought crime as fantasy then what explicit demonstrations of racial bias are either legal or socially acceptable in 2020?

Finally, if we are to accept the premise of implicit bias, which cards on the table I wholly reject, then what do you think the violent actions of BLM in recent weeks will have done in terms of the subconscious bias of the general population. Do you think that at the implicit, subconscious level the high profile violence and destruction of property will help reaffirm a positive subconcious stereotype within us collectively as a society? Have BLM raised awareness or sown seeds of dissent at the unconscious level?

As Kafka (the poster on this messageboard not that Czech fella) said, I think most of us are actually all on the same side in terms of the concept of racial equality. Just there are massive gaps in how we think it should be approached.

Clever deflection tactic, you should be a politician.; easy to see through and no substance.

If you want to use some abstract academic bulls%^t diatribe to make a point keep going

Now get off your condescending horse and answer the question: would you use the word "tolerate" towards a white player purely on a racial/skin colour grounds as it was in the context of the original post ? Yes or no ?

Just so you know, tolerate means "showing willingness to allow the existence of opinions or behaviour that one does not necessarily agree with." Tell me how the "tolerating" of black players can be dressed up in a way that is not belittling or derogatory.

I really didn't want to spend all day picking other peoples posts apart, but you and Josh just make it so damned hard not to bite.

@ Annis you really should pay these lads a commission you know - they keep me on here all day because I just can't let these things go. I should probably see someone about it.

Anyway, here goes...

Clever deflection tactic

In fact, I've made no comment about tolerance one way or the other so it doesn't really have any relevance to the points I've made above and this is my first post on the topic (other than a brief acknowledgement of the OP) so I don't really get where or how I'm deflecting. You made a point, I politely raised some questions on it and you reverted to a point in a conversation you were having with someone else.

Surely that would be you deflecting not me?

you should be a politician

C'mon now that just plain rude, there's no need for that level of insult.

Now get off your condescending horse

I'm only on a high horse because I'm sick to death with being told to educate myself. I'm actually a fairly reasonable and well mannered chap when not being called an idiot, racist, nazi etc. I also make a mean mojito.

If you want to use some abstract academic bulls%^t diatribe to make a point keep going

The problem here is that implicit bias, which was the subject of my post responding to your post on, um, implicit bias, is an academic abstract concept (first published by Banaji and Greenwald of Havard in 1995 http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~bana ... i_JPSP.pdf)

You can't really have a pop at someone for referring to academic studies if you're going to use academic terminology - that's not really fair is it? How can I ask you your opinion on an abstract academic concept that you brought into the conversation, if I'm not allowed to refer to abstract academic concepts?

answer the question: would you use the word "tolerate" towards a white player purely on a racial/skin colour grounds as it was in the context of the original post ? Yes or no ?

Depends if they are any good I guess. Generally, I don't think of players as black or white. I tend to think of them as legends or donkeys. This was very much the gist of the OP as well and I would humbly suggest that deep down you know this as well as I do.

You seem to have picked up a semantic argument because there is little else wrong with the OPs position and it is certainly anything but racist. Nothing particularly wrong in this, it is a valid debating tactic that allows you to move the conversation into a different area of the topic, putting you on the attack rather than defence. But it isn't particularly honest way of approaching debate and not one I would choose to use personally.

Just so you know, tolerate means "showing willingness to allow the existence of opinions or behaviour that one does not necessarily agree with." Tell me how the "tolerating" of black players can be dressed up in a way that is not belittling or derogatory.

Not that I was going to weigh in on this but seeing as you asked...

Tolerance is the minimum and maximum expectation within any society that respects personal liberty and it is a question of ensuring the negative rights of the individual are not imposed upon by the positive rights of the society.

No group, whether they be white, black, gay, straight or anything else has a right to demand anything other than tolerance if we are to live in an equal society as anything beyond tolerance requires asserting the dominance of the group over the will of the individual.

It all boils down to negative vs. positive rights. A negative right is a right not to be subjected to an action of another person or group - i.e the group must tolerate the individual to an extent that their rights are not infringed.

A positive right is a right to be subjected to an action of another person or group. i.e. a defined requirement of acceptance (i.e. a favourable reception as per a dictionary.com definition) and requires an individual to potentially negate his individual rights to comply with the group's set positive right.

Most liberal democracies enshrine negative rights into their constitution and ethical framework, whereas positive rights are generally agreed to be a step towards authoritarianism unless the positive right is a willingly entered into social contract.

There is no additional layer between tolerance and acceptance so to enforce anything more than tolerance is to impose positive rights without consent, which is the antithesis of a free and liberal society.

This by the way was Martin Luther King Jr's position as well. (an all time hero of mine incidentally)

You did ask.

That said I think your just looking for any loose thread you can find in the OP to try and unravel it and get outraged by the overt racism in his post that most sensible people realise simply isn't there.

Ok you right, I’m wrong and there is no racism in this thread or OP ............ !!!

You know as well as I do that is b^!!^#¥s !!

The whole reason BLM is about is the complete lack of empathy shown by those who haven’t had to suffer like black peoples have.

It’s not as bad in the UK as it is in the US but it’s there.

Hide behind your articulate argument if you like, but deep down you must realise that the OP was a one sided view with very little acknowledgement of what some parts of our society have been through.

We won’t ever agree but neither will either of us back down from what we both believe in. Nothing wrong with that.

We won’t ever agree but neither will either of us back down from what we both believe in. Nothing wrong with that.

I'll take that middle ground. In fairness, its not that I don't think racism doesn't exist. I just think that the UK in 2020 is probably one of the least racist places that has ever existed in history and before the rise of identity politics we were moving year by year towards a world where race really wasn't an issue.

We've been moving backwards for the last decade and that regression has been given a turbo boost by BLM in the last month.

It honestly breaks my heart to see us falling apart over racial division. This is not the world I dreamed of when I was a kid.

Tony

Absolutely spot on.

I've said in previous posts, it's an excuse for some lazy black people not to get on.

Play the victim card.

We can say look at that family (white) been on benefits all there lives


But if it's a lazy black family, dont dare say the same thing

Its racist

Black & Asian folk are more protected in the UK than the white folk

And this recent nonsense

Proves it

I'd argue that you can say exactly the same thing about a black family just as long as you leave 'black' out of the sentence. Because if the whole point is about laziness you wouldn't need to say black so why would you?. Who the f**k says lazy white anyway? I've never heard it.

Tony

Absolutely spot on.

I've said in previous posts, it's an excuse for some lazy black people not to get on.

Play the victim card.

We can say look at that family (white) been on benefits all there lives


But if it's a lazy black family, dont dare say the same thing

Its racist

Black & Asian folk are more protected in the UK than the white folk

And this recent nonsense

Proves it

I'd argue that you can say exactly the same thing about a black family just as long as you leave 'black' out of the sentence. Because if the whole point is about laziness you wouldn't need to say black so why would you?. Who the f**k says lazy white anyway? I've never heard it.

Its a point, I ersinally wouldn't say white or black.
Couldn't give a dam either way

But id bet my last dollar the "black" family would find some way to bring racism into it when they are just bone IDLE, was the point.

Just ike the "white" family, always have an excuse

But the black folk been playing the victim card to long

Its gone boring.

Strange how these debates always seems to involve a crime where the black man is arrested.

Well, who is to say if he happened to be white same thing wouldn't have happened

But if that happened, wouldn't know about it would we

150 deaths in prisons over the years

13 black

Hard done by again in the UK aren't they.

Tony

Absolutely spot on.

I've said in previous posts, it's an excuse for some lazy black people not to get on.

Play the victim card.

We can say look at that family (white) been on benefits all there lives


But if it's a lazy black family, dont dare say the same thing

Its racist

Black & Asian folk are more protected in the UK than the white folk

And this recent nonsense

Proves it

I'd argue that you can say exactly the same thing about a black family just as long as you leave 'black' out of the sentence. Because if the whole point is about laziness you wouldn't need to say black so why would you?. Who the f**k says lazy white anyway? I've never heard it.

Its a point, I ersinally wouldn't say white or black.
Couldn't give a dam either way

You personally wouldn't say white or black? Your words were "I've said before, it's an excuse for some lazy black people not to get on. play the victim card"

Tony

Absolutely spot on.

I've said in previous posts, it's an excuse for some lazy black people not to get on.

Play the victim card.

We can say look at that family (white) been on benefits all there lives


But if it's a lazy black family, dont dare say the same thing

Its racist

Black & Asian folk are more protected in the UK than the white folk

And this recent nonsense

Proves it

I'd argue that you can say exactly the same thing about a black family just as long as you leave 'black' out of the sentence. Because if the whole point is about laziness you wouldn't need to say black so why would you?. Who the f**k says lazy white anyway? I've never heard it.

Its a point, I ersinally wouldn't say white or black.
Couldn't give a dam either way

You personally wouldn't say white or black? Your words were "I've said before, it's an excuse for some lazy black people not to get on. play the victim card"

Your evidently a bit dull

So I'm not going to waste my time replying to you again.

Tony

Absolutely spot on.

I've said in previous posts, it's an excuse for some lazy black people not to get on.

Play the victim card.

We can say look at that family (white) been on benefits all there lives

But if it's a lazy black family, dont dare say the same thing

Its racist

Black & Asian folk are more protected in the UK than the white folk

And this recent nonsense

Proves it

Jesus wept

Tony

Absolutely spot on.

I've said in previous posts, it's an excuse for some lazy black people not to get on.

Play the victim card.

We can say look at that family (white) been on benefits all there lives


But if it's a lazy black family, dont dare say the same thing

Its racist

Black & Asian folk are more protected in the UK than the white folk

And this recent nonsense

Proves it

I'd argue that you can say exactly the same thing about a black family just as long as you leave 'black' out of the sentence. Because if the whole point is about laziness you wouldn't need to say black so why would you?. Who the f**k says lazy white anyway? I've never heard it.

Its a point, I ersinally wouldn't say white or black.
Couldn't give a dam either way

You personally wouldn't say white or black? Your words were "I've said before, it's an excuse for some lazy black people not to get on. play the victim card"

Your evidently a bit dull

So I'm not going to waste my time replying to you again.

So you contradicted yourself completely, I point it out but I'm the dull one?!
That in itself displays exactly how f*cking stupid you are. Clot.

So guys who is causing this division ? Well yep the MSM they are 100% behind it. And it’s the world elites who funds or owns these media stations. The elites want this race war and everything has been put in place for it to happen.
Locked in our houses
Can’t see family and friends
Close the pubs
Close restaurants
Close free speech on Facebook and Twitter
Close football grounds.
Use footballers to peddle divide and hatred
If anyone goes above and beyond causing dissent then they will either face prison or financially ruined. Like they done to that Burnley fan and his girlfriend.
An there is me thinking I’m going bananas. I’m just a conspiracy theorist. I’m seeing things that are not there.
People are frightened to speak out others are sleepwalking but when they wake up a new world is awaiting where your thoughts and actions will be illegal if it does not conform to the new suppressive ideals.
Winston Churchill famously said the next Fascists will claim to be Anti fascists. But right now if you are showing dissent on what is going on you are FAR RIGHT. Let that sink in, was Churchill right ?

So guys who is causing this division ? Well yep the MSM they are 100% behind it. And it’s the world elites who funds or owns these media stations. The elites want this race war and everything has been put in place for it to happen.
Locked in our houses
Can’t see family and friends
Close the pubs
Close restaurants
Close free speech on Facebook and Twitter
Close football grounds.
Use footballers to peddle divide and hatred
If anyone goes above and beyond causing dissent then they will either face prison or financially ruined. Like they done to that Burnley fan and his girlfriend.
An there is me thinking I’m going bananas. I’m just a conspiracy theorist. I’m seeing things that are not there.
People are frightened to speak out others are sleepwalking but when they wake up a new world is awaiting where your thoughts and actions will be illegal if it does not conform to the new suppressive ideals.
Winston Churchill famously said the next Fascists will claim to be Anti fascists. But right now if you are showing dissent on what is going on you are FAR RIGHT. Let that sink in, was Churchill right ?

Nukes, Its only a conspiracy if it is done behind closed doors. Everything is being done in plain site, its just the majority of people simply refuse to see it.

I can't remember if it was Goebels or Lenin who said tell a lie big enough and often enough it will become reality but that is what we are seeing on every level and it has been happening for a long, long time.

We are fed on emotionally charged nonsense not wedded to reality while things like agenda21 are openly discussed amongst the elitist class.

My only hope is their arrogance in leaving this out in the open will eventually be there downfall when enough people wake up to the reality of what is being played out.

Your not going bananas mate. You've just kept hold of the ability to think critically, something that has been slwoly eroded in a large section of society

On LBC they were just discussing the George Orwell statue at the new BBC Broadcasting House.. and his quote beside it.

“If liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”