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Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:56 pm

Personally I hope they stay out of politics and just concentrate on playing football. They should not have to give in to an extremely vocal minority who are getting hysterical about the whole thing. It is obvious from the opinions on here that the large minority don't want them to take the knee.

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:13 pm

If it’s on the TV I will turn it off and won’t watch. If it’s at the ground I would walk out and not come back. If you want to support an anarchist group hell bent on causing a race war I want no part of it.

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:06 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:If it’s on the TV I will turn it off and won’t watch. If it’s at the ground I would walk out and not come back. If you want to support an anarchist group hell bent on causing a race war I want no part of it.



don't think your going to be watching as they will follow the prem , everyone seems afraid to be neutral in case they are tarred as being far right football lads

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:22 am

skidemin wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:If it’s on the TV I will turn it off and won’t watch. If it’s at the ground I would walk out and not come back. If you want to support an anarchist group hell bent on causing a race war I want no part of it.



don't think your going to be watching as they will follow the prem , everyone seems afraid to be neutral in case they are tarred as being far right football lads

Well I ain’t a sheep that’s gullible to take in the bullshit

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:46 am

Nuclearblue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:If it’s on the TV I will turn it off and won’t watch. If it’s at the ground I would walk out and not come back. If you want to support an anarchist group hell bent on causing a race war I want no part of it.



don't think your going to be watching as they will follow the prem , everyone seems afraid to be neutral in case they are tarred as being far right football lads

Well I ain’t a sheep that’s gullible to take in the bullshit



you don't need to be a sheep to watch though.. im sure there will be many who disagree with this knee thing that will still watch...

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:32 pm

Taking the knee at Villa tonight

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:52 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:If it’s on the TV I will turn it off and won’t watch. If it’s at the ground I would walk out and not come back. If you want to support an anarchist group hell bent on causing a race war I want no part of it.

:wave:

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:22 am

moonboots wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:If it’s on the TV I will turn it off and won’t watch. If it’s at the ground I would walk out and not come back. If you want to support an anarchist group hell bent on causing a race war I want no part of it.

:wave:

I will join you.

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:20 am

JJ1927 wrote:
moonboots wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:If it’s on the TV I will turn it off and won’t watch. If it’s at the ground I would walk out and not come back. If you want to support an anarchist group hell bent on causing a race war I want no part of it.

:wave:

I will join you.



From what I see it is not political at all, It comes from an American football player bending the knee to make a stand about police brutality and racial discrimination, how can anyone disagree with that. What is unacceptable is all the violence and pulling down and defacing of statues and monements in all the demonstrations, peaceful protests are ok at the right time, but I have an issue with these demonstrations in the middle of a Covid19 pandemic, with these people having no thought whatsoever about spreading the virus!

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:50 am

He was an attention seeker,

And was an attack on America in general hence not standing for national anthem

Its mad how all these black folk who get on in life have had no problems with police brutality
I had issues with the police in my younger years, because I behaved like a prick,

But then I grew up educated and got a job

Since I changed my ways , guess what, I've never had an issue with a copper since

Why dont these do gooders go after the black rappers who rap hate, gangster shxt

Sport is something to enjoy, sportsmen are not politicians

Hearing Redknapp and dalglish's daughter going on about it last night was cringeworthy

I will watch the game after first 10 minutes Sunday, dont want to see such nonsense

As I think it's absolutely pathetic and has no place in sport

If I want news il put it on, I put sport on for sport

Not some peer pressure "we are such lovely white folk" part of the in crowd

Bending knee nonsense

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:00 pm

Igovernor wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:
moonboots wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:If it’s on the TV I will turn it off and won’t watch. If it’s at the ground I would walk out and not come back. If you want to support an anarchist group hell bent on causing a race war I want no part of it.

:wave:

I will join you.



From what I see it is not political at all, It comes from an American football player bending the knee to make a stand about police brutality and racial discrimination, how can anyone disagree with that. What is unacceptable is all the violence and pulling down and defacing of statues and monements in all the demonstrations, peaceful protests are ok at the right time, but I have an issue with these demonstrations in the middle of a Covid19 pandemic, with these people having no thought whatsoever about spreading the virus!



seriously ?
so next time our national team play and hen wlad fy nhadau starts playing youd find it quite acceptable for 2 players to stand on one leg picking with head in hands , 3 lie face down on the grass and another is stood with both arms stretched out all in protests regarding different things..... no mate ..I disagree and here just like in the USA the vast majority would disagree.. ...respect the anthem or do one...

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:27 pm

Igovernor wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:
moonboots wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:If it’s on the TV I will turn it off and won’t watch. If it’s at the ground I would walk out and not come back. If you want to support an anarchist group hell bent on causing a race war I want no part of it.

:wave:

I will join you.



From what I see it is not political at all, It comes from an American football player bending the knee to make a stand about police brutality and racial discrimination, how can anyone disagree with that. What is unacceptable is all the violence and pulling down and defacing of statues and monements in all the demonstrations, peaceful protests are ok at the right time, but I have an issue with these demonstrations in the middle of a Covid19 pandemic, with these people having no thought whatsoever about spreading the virus!
It was about that now it’s a way of saying sorry for the past. And sorry on behalf of everyone because of the police. As they said it’s a BLM stance. People are doing this not knowing what the true BLM are. They are a true hatred group full of black white hating people and self loathing white people. There demands are the police force to be abolished and instead replace it with a mob of criminals. Also to remove white privileges that they deem we have and no person of colour does not have. There aim is that we are ruled by people of colour. But hey sheep will be sheep and they don’t realise BLM and Antífa are funded by the same organisation the Open Foundation. Which one of their backers is Hilary Clinton.
This is a race war designed to try and bring down Trump and stop him getting a second term. Also Clinton and her mob are in court later this year and if found guilty will spend a lot of time doing bird. This is her final desperate attempt to save her ass and stop Trump.

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:38 pm

skidemin wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:
moonboots wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:If it’s on the TV I will turn it off and won’t watch. If it’s at the ground I would walk out and not come back. If you want to support an anarchist group hell bent on causing a race war I want no part of it.

:wave:

I will join you.



From what I see it is not political at all, It comes from an American football player bending the knee to make a stand about police brutality and racial discrimination, how can anyone disagree with that. What is unacceptable is all the violence and pulling down and defacing of statues and monements in all the demonstrations, peaceful protests are ok at the right time, but I have an issue with these demonstrations in the middle of a Covid19 pandemic, with these people having no thought whatsoever about spreading the virus!



seriously ?
so next time our national team play and hen wlad fy nhadau starts playing youd find it quite acceptable for 2 players to stand on one leg picking with head in hands , 3 lie face down on the grass and another is stood with both arms stretched out all in protests regarding different things..... no mate ..I disagree and here just like in the USA the vast majority would disagree.. ...respect the anthem or do one...


Are we seperated at birth lad
We think so alike

Top post :clap:

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:57 pm

Citysince72 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:
moonboots wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:If it’s on the TV I will turn it off and won’t watch. If it’s at the ground I would walk out and not come back. If you want to support an anarchist group hell bent on causing a race war I want no part of it.

:wave:

I will join you.



From what I see it is not political at all, It comes from an American football player bending the knee to make a stand about police brutality and racial discrimination, how can anyone disagree with that. What is unacceptable is all the violence and pulling down and defacing of statues and monements in all the demonstrations, peaceful protests are ok at the right time, but I have an issue with these demonstrations in the middle of a Covid19 pandemic, with these people having no thought whatsoever about spreading the virus!



seriously ?
so next time our national team play and hen wlad fy nhadau starts playing youd find it quite acceptable for 2 players to stand on one leg picking with head in hands , 3 lie face down on the grass and another is stood with both arms stretched out all in protests regarding different things..... no mate ..I disagree and here just like in the USA the vast majority would disagree.. ...respect the anthem or do one...


Are we seperated at birth lad
We think so alike

Top post :clap:




the fella decides to do the knee as a peaceful protest....during the national anthem..?
really ?
his initial protest was to not stand and just sat there , changed up to this do the kier kier thing... and people don't see much wrong.. or don't understand other people losing their shit... its the same people that see nothing wrong with riots, looting, pulling down statues and defacing war memorials... as don't see anything wrong with doing your own thing during a national anthem .. its crap..

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:16 pm

davids wrote:Don't care about taking a knee but I certainly hope that on Sunday the players wear black armbands in tribute to the legend that is Peter Whittingham.

Spot on :thumbup:

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:20 pm

davids wrote:Don't care about taking a knee but I certainly hope that on Sunday the players wear black armbands in tribute to the legend that is Peter Whittingham.


That is a shout :thumbup:

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:38 pm

Can't get worked up about it one way or another, to be honest. We've never really had a problem with racism at our club. I remember going to see the City play Millwall at Ninian Park in division 3 in 1976. There were three black players on the pitch, which was unheard of in those days, (Clive Charles for us, Trevor Lee and Phil Walker for them). No problem from either set of fans, as far as I recall. It was remarked about, simply because it was so unusual. Cardiff has always been a multicultural city. Most posters on here seem to be well to the right of myself, which is fair enough. I don't support looting and vandalising statues, but this BLM seems to have a bit of a momentum behind it. If they take the knee, or not, then so be it. Won't be outraged either way. Just move on.

We do need a proper tribute to Peter Whittingham, though, as soon as possible when crowds are back. Agree with others on that.

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:52 pm

llangainbluebird wrote:Can't get worked up about it one way or another, to be honest. We've never really had a problem with racism at our club. I remember going to see the City play Millwall at Ninian Park in division 3 in 1976. There were three black players on the pitch, which was unheard of in those days, (Clive Charles for us, Trevor Lee and Phil Walker for them). No problem from either set of fans, as far as I recall. It was remarked about, simply because it was so unusual. Cardiff has always been a multicultural city. Most posters on here seem to be well to the right of myself, which is fair enough. I don't support looting and vandalising statues, but this BLM seems to have a bit of a momentum behind it. If they take the knee, or not, then so be it. Won't be outraged either way. Just move on.

We do need a proper tribute to Peter Whittingham, though, as soon as possible when crowds are back. Agree with others on that.



your experience of going to football is the same as most . hence the offence being taken at being lumped as a bunch of racists.. maybe your happy with that .. or do you think they are only angry with some of us..

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:15 pm

skidemin wrote:
llangainbluebird wrote:Can't get worked up about it one way or another, to be honest. We've never really had a problem with racism at our club. I remember going to see the City play Millwall at Ninian Park in division 3 in 1976. There were three black players on the pitch, which was unheard of in those days, (Clive Charles for us, Trevor Lee and Phil Walker for them). No problem from either set of fans, as far as I recall. It was remarked about, simply because it was so unusual. Cardiff has always been a multicultural city. Most posters on here seem to be well to the right of myself, which is fair enough. I don't support looting and vandalising statues, but this BLM seems to have a bit of a momentum behind it. If they take the knee, or not, then so be it. Won't be outraged either way. Just move on.

We do need a proper tribute to Peter Whittingham, though, as soon as possible when crowds are back. Agree with others on that.



your experience of going to football is the same as most . hence the offence being taken at being lumped as a bunch of racists.. maybe your happy with that .. or do you think they are only angry with some of us..



That's not what I said. Apart from Reading Football Club, I don't remember anyone calling us a bunch of rascists. You seem to be looking for an argument when there is no grounds for one. If anybody calls all football fans racists, (which includes you and me), then of course I would not be happy. And I don't think that I'm better than anyone else, which you seem to suggest. I'm anything but! That's all.

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:51 pm

llangainbluebird wrote:
skidemin wrote:
llangainbluebird wrote:Can't get worked up about it one way or another, to be honest. We've never really had a problem with racism at our club. I remember going to see the City play Millwall at Ninian Park in division 3 in 1976. There were three black players on the pitch, which was unheard of in those days, (Clive Charles for us, Trevor Lee and Phil Walker for them). No problem from either set of fans, as far as I recall. It was remarked about, simply because it was so unusual. Cardiff has always been a multicultural city. Most posters on here seem to be well to the right of myself, which is fair enough. I don't support looting and vandalising statues, but this BLM seems to have a bit of a momentum behind it. If they take the knee, or not, then so be it. Won't be outraged either way. Just move on.

We do need a proper tribute to Peter Whittingham, though, as soon as possible when crowds are back. Agree with others on that.



your experience of going to football is the same as most . hence the offence being taken at being lumped as a bunch of racists.. maybe your happy with that .. or do you think they are only angry with some of us..



That's not what I said. Apart from Reading Football Club, I don't remember anyone calling us a bunch of rascists. You seem to be looking for an argument when there is no grounds for one. If anybody calls all football fans racists, (which includes you and me), then of course I would not be happy. And I don't think that I'm better than anyone else, which you seem to suggest. I'm anything but! That's all.



no not looking to argue... and yes I was angry after the Reading game too... I was there and it wasn't justified , feeling that does not make it right wing.. im proud of my country as most previous generations have been and also proud of my club...

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:58 pm

skidemin wrote:
llangainbluebird wrote:
skidemin wrote:
llangainbluebird wrote:Can't get worked up about it one way or another, to be honest. We've never really had a problem with racism at our club. I remember going to see the City play Millwall at Ninian Park in division 3 in 1976. There were three black players on the pitch, which was unheard of in those days, (Clive Charles for us, Trevor Lee and Phil Walker for them). No problem from either set of fans, as far as I recall. It was remarked about, simply because it was so unusual. Cardiff has always been a multicultural city. Most posters on here seem to be well to the right of myself, which is fair enough. I don't support looting and vandalising statues, but this BLM seems to have a bit of a momentum behind it. If they take the knee, or not, then so be it. Won't be outraged either way. Just move on.

We do need a proper tribute to Peter Whittingham, though, as soon as possible when crowds are back. Agree with others on that.



your experience of going to football is the same as most . hence the offence being taken at being lumped as a bunch of racists.. maybe your happy with that .. or do you think they are only angry with some of us..



That's not what I said. Apart from Reading Football Club, I don't remember anyone calling us a bunch of rascists. You seem to be looking for an argument when there is no grounds for one. If anybody calls all football fans racists, (which includes you and me), then of course I would not be happy. And I don't think that I'm better than anyone else, which you seem to suggest. I'm anything but! That's all.



no not looking to argue... and yes I was angry after the Reading game too... I was there and it wasn't justified , feeling that does not make it right wing.. im proud of my country as most previous generations have been and also proud of my club...


So am I, mate! All the best!

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:35 pm

skidemin wrote:
Citysince72 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:
moonboots wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:If it’s on the TV I will turn it off and won’t watch. If it’s at the ground I would walk out and not come back. If you want to support an anarchist group hell bent on causing a race war I want no part of it.

:wave:

I will join you.



From what I see it is not political at all, It comes from an American football player bending the knee to make a stand about police brutality and racial discrimination, how can anyone disagree with that. What is unacceptable is all the violence and pulling down and defacing of statues and monements in all the demonstrations, peaceful protests are ok at the right time, but I have an issue with these demonstrations in the middle of a Covid19 pandemic, with these people having no thought whatsoever about spreading the virus!



seriously ?
so next time our national team play and hen wlad fy nhadau starts playing youd find it quite acceptable for 2 players to stand on one leg picking with head in hands , 3 lie face down on the grass and another is stood with both arms stretched out all in protests regarding different things..... no mate ..I disagree and here just like in the USA the vast majority would disagree.. ...respect the anthem or do one...


Are we seperated at birth lad
We think so alike

Top post :clap:




the fella decides to do the knee as a peaceful protest....during the national anthem..?
really ?
his initial protest was to not stand and just sat there , changed up to this do the kier kier thing... and people don't see much wrong.. or don't understand other people losing their shit... its the same people that see nothing wrong with riots, looting, pulling down statues and defacing war memorials... as don't see anything wrong with doing your own thing during a national anthem .. its crap..


With you 100% skidemin

Anyone who bends a knee to this crap is a sheep following clown

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:20 am

JJ1927 wrote:Every player in every league will do it because of the witch hunt that would follow if they didn't. To take a stand like this requires a very articulate individual explain why he is doing it not to mention bravery. The hysteria that has been whipped up by the BLM movement and the compliant media and politicians means that no one will do so.
100% aggree

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:45 pm

pengamblue wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:Every player in every league will do it because of the witch hunt that would follow if they didn't. To take a stand like this requires a very articulate individual explain why he is doing it not to mention bravery. The hysteria that has been whipped up by the BLM movement and the compliant media and politicians means that no one will do so.
100% aggree


Yep agree

That's the sad society we live in

That an opinion

Is not now seen as just that

If it doesnt conform to what they believe

They feel the need to give you a label,

Racist, transphobic etc

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:57 pm

I thought shows of political logos and signs/signals were banned anyway in football.

Didnt they try and stop teams wearing the poppy a whilst ago ?

I believe swiss players were fined at the world cup for showing a eagle sign when they scored

Why is kneeling and having your first in the air allowed when its a political / racial symbol ?

Why is the black lives matter name allowed on the shirts as it's a political group ?

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:08 pm

thomasblue wrote:I thought shows of political logos and signs/signals were banned anyway in football.

Didnt they try and stop teams wearing the poppy a whilst ago ?

I believe swiss players were fined at the world cup for showing a eagle sign when they scored

Why is kneeling and having your first in the air allowed when its a political / racial symbol ?

Why is the black lives matter name allowed on the shirts as it's a political group ?



yes mate there were issues regarding the poppy.. all four home nations were fined for various breaches of rules.{ not sure if the fines were over turned on appeal } . in our case it was the fans holding up coloured cards depicting a poppy..

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:01 pm

i have no issue with taking the knee, but i do agree with JJ1927 in terms of, if one player refuses then there will be a witch hunt. the same thing happens every year when James Mclean refuses to wear the poppy, everyone loses their shit. (i also have no problem with Mclean refusing to wear the poppy)

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:55 pm

Apparently players will take the knee but noticed last night not all players did before spurs game.

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:09 pm

If Cardiff "take the knee" I will turn my tv off and that will be me finished with football until things change. I've done it before when we went up 1st time. Been waiting since my 1st game in 1968 to see us in the top division, and thanks to red I didn't go once. Fair play to Tan, he changed his mind, back I went, and then back up we went in blue. F.T.J !!!

Re: If Cardiff players take the knee

Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:07 pm

cf40 wrote:If Cardiff "take the knee" I will turn my tv off and that will be me finished with football until things change. I've done it before when we went up 1st time. Been waiting since my 1st game in 1968 to see us in the top division, and thanks to red I didn't go once. Fair play to Tan, he changed his mind, back I went, and then back up we went in blue. F.T.J !!!


That is now quite a few feel, me included

I walked out after the home Charlton game thinking I should be happy, I've waited 39 years for this

But seeing our club in red and so many in "fans" in red to, hurt badly, but

Thank God he changed it back and Warnock helped gel the fans back together

Politics, religion, race has no place in sport,