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Sat Jun 06, 2020 6:03 pm
Black / White / Yellow / Inuit / Amazonian - all lives matter.
But these idiots have just signed other poeple's death sentence. And according to research they are in far greater danger if they catch it.
Sat Jun 06, 2020 6:10 pm
STAY HOME!!
Stick to the advice. We are in uncharted territory with this KILLER PANDEMIC.
Guaranteed some of these idiots will be bleating when there is a spike in confirmed cases in their neighbourhoods.
No issue if they succumb BUT the spread to others is an issue!
Sat Jun 06, 2020 6:12 pm
There is injustice every minute of every day in this world we inhabit. Protest and mass demonstration has solved nothing. Now America is looting & burning there own people's properties that when the dust settles the tax payer will have to fund to rebuild. As the alleged 250 million who marched against Brexit proved it doesn't do a thing. 250 million I said as if you believed BBC that's how many there was even though the UK is what 70 millionish in total. There was more arrests that day than when pro Brexit march. But guess what, the liberal BBC, SKY AND CHANNEL4 only mentioned the arrests at the pro Brexit rally. The media has lot to answer for and is one of the main problem when it comes to propaganda. Said Khan is the Major of London, yet has from what I gather okayd the March whilst slaying Cummings?? It's all a joke. Khan your responsible for the safety of London you cretin.
Sat Jun 06, 2020 6:15 pm
Citysince72 wrote:Annis the left have no respect for Churchill and what he achieved. It's an excuse for gang mentality, most of the idiots are middle class white clowns who would fall over if you blew at them
Citysince72 wrote:Annis the left have no respect for Churchill and what he achieved. It's an excuse for gang mentality, most of the idiots are middle class white clowns who would fall over if you blew at them
Hmmm, methinks you need to settle down and pick up a decent history book
Churchill was the orchestrator of the war effort and his achievements in galvanising this nation to withstand the threat of the enemy (not withstanding Hitler's odd but thankful decision not to press home the advantage when he had it) and for that alone he will forever hold a place of gratitude in the nation's heart
However, closer examination in respect of some of his other actions/decisions might make you revise your assertion that there is no reason to criticise the man; and that is no more relevant than when (as Home Secretary) he sent in the troops to quell the impoverished miners during the so-called Tonyoandy Riots
Although the extent of Churchill's involvement is often disputed, as then Home Secretary the decision fell on him
However, I do agree that those out 'protesting' today clearly cannot think beyond their own heads
Sat Jun 06, 2020 6:16 pm
Our war as 1 species is against the coronavirus. Whether your black or white its time to unite to fight this virus NOT gather in big gatherings to fuel the virus. We are humans on this planet it does not matter what colour your skin is. Now is the time to unite NOT cause disruptions and chaos.
Sat Jun 06, 2020 6:34 pm
Disrespectful
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Sat Jun 06, 2020 6:57 pm
Since the horrific murder of Stephen Lawrence 27 years ago there have been an enormous number of murders of young people in London from the BAME community. The vast majority have been carried out by people from the BAME community. If you asked 95% of those on that march today they wouldn't be able to name a single one of them beyond Mark Duggan. To me it seems that the slogan Black lives matter depends on whose doing the killing.
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Sat Jun 06, 2020 6:57 pm
Sven wrote:Citysince72 wrote:Annis the left have no respect for Churchill and what he achieved. It's an excuse for gang mentality, most of the idiots are middle class white clowns who would fall over if you blew at them
Citysince72 wrote:Annis the left have no respect for Churchill and what he achieved. It's an excuse for gang mentality, most of the idiots are middle class white clowns who would fall over if you blew at them
Hmmm, methinks you need to settle down and pick up a decent history book
Churchill was the orchestrator of the war effort and his achievements in galvanising this nation to withstand the threat of the enemy (not withstanding Hitler's odd but thankful decision not to press home the advantage when he had it) and fir that alone he will forever hold a place of gratitude in the nation's heart
However, closer examination in respect of some of his other actions/decisions might make you revise your assertion that there is no reason to criticise the man; and that is no more relevant than when (as Home Secretary) he sent in the troops to quell the impoverished miners during the so-called Tonyoandy Riots
Although the extent of Churchill's involvement is often disputed, as then Home Secretary the decision fell on him
However, I do agree that those out 'protesting' today clearly cannot think beyond their own heads

I'm not that clued up on Churchill your right there, point I was trying to make (altjough badly i know) is the sacrifice our soldiers made for us and future Britons is lost on the left. It's there way and if you don't like it your racist, homophobic, transphobic, erg etc
Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:47 pm
epping blue wrote:Since the horrific murder of Stephen Lawrence 27 years ago there have been an enormous number of murders of young people in London from the BAME community. The vast majority have been carried out by people from the BAME community. If you asked 95% of those on that march today they wouldn't be able to name a single one of them beyond Mark Duggan. To me it seems that the slogan Black lives matter depends on whose doing the killing.
Agree been saying that here for days.
Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:04 pm
Stunned.
All lives matter however I feel a number of anarchists are jumping on the bandwagon looking for a ruck in order to defy/undermine law and order. Sad thing is, this happened in the USA not UK, where current figures in USA show the majority of people shot by police happen to be ‘white’ people . I have served and fought beside all colours, creeds, nationality’s, sexual orientation and have never discriminated against any person or group in theatres of war and conflict but what I see is is people up for a ruck in the name of a man who was illegally killed.
This happened 3000 miles away yet these people who try and goad police, deface the Cenotaph should direct their anger across the pound and not against the police. The police do a hard and thankless task and again I believe people who defy the law hate them with a passion whereas law abiding people should support them in protecting us. The demonstrations in this country have NO PURPOSE and only serve to enhance infection of Covoid 19. When the 2nd wave hits these people will be the drain on already strained resources.
Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:20 pm
Stunned.
All lives matter however I feel a number of anarchists are jumping on the bandwagon looking for a ruck in order to defy/undermine law and order. Sad thing is, this happened in the USA not UK, where current figures in USA show the majority of people shot by police happen to be ‘white’ people . I have served and fought beside all colours, creeds, nationality’s, sexual orientation and have never discriminated against any person or group in theatres of war and conflict but what I see is is people up for a ruck in the name of a man who was illegally killed.
This happened 3000 miles away yet these people who try and goad police, deface the Cenotaph should direct their anger across the pound and not against the police. The police do a hard and thankless task and again I believe people who defy the law hate them with a passion whereas law abiding people should support them in protecting us. The demonstrations in this country have NO PURPOSE and only serve to enhance infection of Covoid 19. When the 2nd wave hits these people will be the drain on already strained resources.
Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:49 pm
I personally have never been a fan of the police BUT this is way out of order
THIS IS FROM A ‘PEACEFUL PROTEST’ TODAY WHERE A LADY POLICE OFFICER WAS PUNCHED AND DRAGGED FROM HER HORSE!!
HOW THE HELL IS THAT HELPING THE SITUATION IN AMERICA??
WHAT A LOAD OF BOLLOCKS!!
IF THIS WAS AT A FOOTBALL MATCH OR SIMILAR THE POLICE WOULD BE CHARGING AT EVERYONE AND SMASHING PEOPLES SKULLS IN WITH BATONS!
GET THE BATONS OUT
GET THE WATER CANNONS OUT
NOTHING BUT PRICKS USING WHAT HAPPENED AS AN EXCUSE TO RIOT FACT!
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Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:07 pm
Forever Blue wrote:I personally have never been a fan of the police BUT this is way out of order
THIS IS FROM A ‘PEACEFUL PROTEST’ TODAY WHERE A LADY POLICE OFFICER WAS PUNCHED AND DRAGGED FROM HER HORSE!!
HOW THE HELL IS THAT HELPING THE SITUATION IN AMERICA??
WHAT A LOAD OF BOLLOCKS!!
IF THIS WAS AT A FOOTBALL MATCH OR SIMILAR THE POLICE WOULD BE CHARGING AT EVERYONE AND SMASHING PEOPLES SKULLS IN WITH BATONS!
GET THE BATONS OUT
GET THE WATER CANNONS OUT
NOTHING BUT PRICKS USING WHAT HAPPENED AS AN EXCUSE TO RIOT FACT!
It’s disgusting. Probably a few from here will jump to they defence and say the pictures are fake.
Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:25 pm
This country's Police force are in paralysis.. and the rest of the world is laughing. The only ones who aren’t are the British public, aside from the Labour Party and it’s associated scruffs..
Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:28 pm
I think they’d be surprised how much support they would have if they didn’t us kid gloves with these idiots. They are in the massive minority.
Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:29 pm
And this BLM are probably the most racist group by far in the uk.
Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:41 pm
Police should be able to wade in and clear them out, bunch of vermin. If this was a Pro Brexit rally, any march thats deemed off centre heads would have been cracked by now.
Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:29 am
Citysince72 wrote:Sven wrote:Citysince72 wrote:Annis the left have no respect for Churchill and what he achieved. It's an excuse for gang mentality, most of the idiots are middle class white clowns who would fall over if you blew at them
Citysince72 wrote:Annis the left have no respect for Churchill and what he achieved. It's an excuse for gang mentality, most of the idiots are middle class white clowns who would fall over if you blew at them
Hmmm, methinks you need to settle down and pick up a decent history book
Churchill was the orchestrator of the war effort and his achievements in galvanising this nation to withstand the threat of the enemy (not withstanding Hitler's odd but thankful decision not to press home the advantage when he had it) and fir that alone he will forever hold a place of gratitude in the nation's heart
However, closer examination in respect of some of his other actions/decisions might make you revise your assertion that there is no reason to criticise the man; and that is no more relevant than when (as Home Secretary) he sent in the troops to quell the impoverished miners during the so-called Tonyoandy Riots
Although the extent of Churchill's involvement is often disputed, as then Home Secretary the decision fell on him
However, I do agree that those out 'protesting' today clearly cannot think beyond their own heads

I'm not that clued up on Churchill your right there, point I was trying to make (altjough badly i know) is the sacrifice our soldiers made for us and future Britons is lost on the left. It's there way and if you don't like it your racist, homophobic, transphobic, erg etc
Sadly, you're not wrong...!
Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:41 am
Bigmarkw wrote:And this BLM are probably the most racist group by far in the uk.
That's a bold statement to make,unless you have evidence that they are?
Sun Jun 07, 2020 1:21 am
bluesince62 wrote:Bigmarkw wrote:And this BLM are probably the most racist group by far in the uk.
That's a bold statement to make,unless you have evidence that they are?

no doubt he has as much evidence as all the rioters, looters and murderers of this last few days have when calling what happened to George Floyd racial...
Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:43 am
Sven wrote:Citysince72 wrote:Annis the left have no respect for Churchill and what he achieved. It's an excuse for gang mentality, most of the idiots are middle class white clowns who would fall over if you blew at them
Citysince72 wrote:Annis the left have no respect for Churchill and what he achieved. It's an excuse for gang mentality, most of the idiots are middle class white clowns who would fall over if you blew at them
Hmmm, methinks you need to settle down and pick up a decent history book
Churchill was the orchestrator of the war effort and his achievements in galvanising this nation to withstand the threat of the enemy (not withstanding Hitler's odd but thankful decision not to press home the advantage when he had it) and for that alone he will forever hold a place of gratitude in the nation's heart
However, closer examination in respect of some of his other actions/decisions might make you revise your assertion that there is no reason to criticise the man; and that is no more relevant than when (as Home Secretary) he sent in the troops to quell the impoverished miners during the so-called Tonyoandy Riots
Although the extent of Churchill's involvement is often disputed, as then Home Secretary the decision fell on him
However, I do agree that those out 'protesting' today clearly cannot think beyond their own heads

I thought the Lord Lieutenant of Glamorgan called the troops in and Churchill pulled them out?
Irrespective this Isn’t about BLM many of the groups in attend wantBoris out and Brexit reversed, same in the States this is about getting Trump out and Creepy Joe the sex case in.
Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:07 am
Momentum's new ploy ?
Annis you myself and many more have been saying it for years that this country has shot itself in the foot by being too far into this human rights mess !!
Any turn up at NHS with symptoms should be checked against rioting thugs pictures and if they were there refuse treatment!! f**k ' em.
Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:19 am
JulesK wrote:Momentum's new ploy ?
Annis you myself and many more have been saying it for years that this country has shot itself in the foot by being too far into this human rights mess !!
Any turn up at NHS with symptoms should be checked against rioting thugs pictures and if they were there refuse treatment!! f**k ' em.
Jules, 100% agree with you.
Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:19 am
Police horses were used to regain control, but one horse galloped ahead and its rider fell to the ground after hitting her head on a traffic light. Her injuries are not life-threatening, the Metropolitan Police said.
Fourteen people were arrested and 10 officers were injured after a smaller group became "angry and intent on violence", the force added.
That was yesterday - More demonstrations planned today in the UK and London again is expecting a high turn out .
Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:24 am
Problem we have is that boris is such a weak man he will just hide away and hope that this will all go away in stead of stepping in to try and sort this mess out
him and his cabinet are just a bunch weak c**ts
Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:58 am
bluesince62 wrote:Bigmarkw wrote:And this BLM are probably the most racist group by far in the uk.
That's a bold statement to make,unless you have evidence that they are?

What about everyone lives matter. If someone made a group white lives matter It would be hammered. If they weren’t racist it would be Called LM or ALM. On most counts this whole race thing is in people’s heads.
Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:59 am
Hello all, hello Annis, still as passionate as ever I see. I used to post here a few years ago but someone nicked my name (jama). Anyway good to see you all still going at it hammer and tongs the same as all them years ago.
A couple of issues with a few of the posts is I could be so bold. The opinion that matches/demonstrating etc achieve nothing is wrong, ie the poll tax riots, the suffragettes, and of course our very own demonstrations against the rebrand ( let's not drag that one back up lol). Unlike Annis and most other posters I've thought considering the size (the one in Manchester looked huge) and the emotive subject matter i thought the protests have thankfully been well behaved, although you always going to get a handful of idiots and troublemakers. Its worth remembering that the woman of the past protesting for the vote often used extreme violence in their struggle and are now viewed as heroes.
The points condemning marches over the spread of covid
are understandable and fair although after the Cummings debacle and again the emotive issue I can sort of understand the protesters. It's worth remembering that there have been protests all across the world on this issue so it's not just one particular group/age/race/country who have decided the issue is serious to flout the covid distance rules. It's a difficult one though because it could effect the lives of other innocents and thus virus is unrelenting so I'd prefer if the protests took another way now, but that's just my opinion.
I can see a lot of other protests over various issues in the not to distant future, ie Hong Kong, Climate change etc. The climate change one will be imo intresting because it's mainly youngsters and with one of the unseen happenings due to this awful virus has seen communities across the world coming together and an increase in air purity not seen since the end of world war 2. Im on the kids side on this one.
As for the American killing I'm 100% on the side of the protests and I dont class myself as a wishy washy liberal. If you saw a group of police officers put a knee into the neck of a dog and deny it its last breath youd be outraged so the same applies for a human being, no excuses.
I understand emotions are running high with everything from this, the lockdown, people worrying about jobs and families etc (i think the top cat covid updates have been excellent on here, very clear and informative) but maybe I've still got the old hippy peace and love attitude in me. Live and let live.
A thought for all our ex serviceman on the anniversary this weekend and all who have lost lives since. My thoughts go to the family and mother of soldier Lee Rigby who have to endure another anniversary without him being with them. His mother must be the bravest of the brave for putting out the statement she did the other day, not sure I'd have her courage. What a fantastic lady.
https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2020-0 ... -campaign/Ps. Take care all, stay safe and let's get back to going to watch the fuvking football
Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:25 am
Bobby banks wrote:Hello all, hello Annis, still as passionate as ever I see. I used to post here a few years ago but someone nicked my name (jama). Anyway good to see you all still going at it hammer and tongs the same as all them years ago.
A couple of issues with a few of the posts is I could be so bold. The opinion that matches/demonstrating etc achieve nothing is wrong, ie the poll tax riots, the suffragettes, and of course our very own demonstrations against the rebrand ( let's not drag that one back up lol). Unlike Annis and most other posters I've thought considering the size (the one in Manchester looked huge) and the emotive subject matter i thought the protests have thankfully been well behaved, although you always going to get a handful of idiots and troublemakers. Its worth remembering that the woman of the past protesting for the vote often used extreme violence in their struggle and are now viewed as heroes.
The points condemning marches over the spread of covid
are understandable and fair although after the Cummings debacle and again the emotive issue I can sort of understand the protesters. It's worth remembering that there have been protests all across the world on this issue so it's not just one particular group/age/race/country who have decided the issue is serious to flout the covid distance rules. It's a difficult one though because it could effect the lives of other innocents and thus virus is unrelenting so I'd prefer if the protests took another way now, but that's just my opinion.
I can see a lot of other protests over various issues in the not to distant future, ie Hong Kong, Climate change etc. The climate change one will be imo intresting because it's mainly youngsters and with one of the unseen happenings due to this awful virus has seen communities across the world coming together and an increase in air purity not seen since the end of world war 2. Im on the kids side on this one.
As for the American killing I'm 100% on the side of the protests and I dont class myself as a wishy washy liberal. If you saw a group of police officers put a knee into the neck of a dog and deny it its last breath youd be outraged so the same applies for a human being, no excuses.
I understand emotions are running high with everything from this, the lockdown, people worrying about jobs and families etc (i think the top cat covid updates have been excellent on here, very clear and informative) but maybe I've still got the old hippy peace and love attitude in me. Live and let live.
A thought for all our ex serviceman on the anniversary this weekend and all who have lost lives since. My thoughts go to the family and mother of soldier Lee Rigby who have to endure another anniversary without him being with them. His mother must be the bravest of the brave for putting out the statement she did the other day, not sure I'd have her courage. What a fantastic lady.
https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2020-0 ... -campaign/Ps. Take care all, stay safe and let's get back to going to watch the fuvking football
Welcome back and a very interesting post and your opinion as usual is respected.
I agree with protests and demonstrations, but not when the riot and tear down our history and statues etc
Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:22 am
TopCat CCFC wrote:Police horses were used to regain control, but one horse galloped ahead and its rider fell to the ground after hitting her head on a traffic light. Her injuries are not life-threatening, the Metropolitan Police said.
Fourteen people were arrested and 10 officers were injured after a smaller group became "angry and intent on violence", the force added.
That was yesterday - More demonstrations planned today in the UK and London again is expecting a high turn out .
one horse galloped ahead...?
after having bricks, bottles ,flares and push bikes thrown at it..
Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:28 am
Jock wrote:Sven wrote:Citysince72 wrote:Annis the left have no respect for Churchill and what he achieved. It's an excuse for gang mentality, most of the idiots are middle class white clowns who would fall over if you blew at them
Citysince72 wrote:Annis the left have no respect for Churchill and what he achieved. It's an excuse for gang mentality, most of the idiots are middle class white clowns who would fall over if you blew at them
Hmmm, methinks you need to settle down and pick up a decent history book
Churchill was the orchestrator of the war effort and his achievements in galvanising this nation to withstand the threat of the enemy (not withstanding Hitler's odd but thankful decision not to press home the advantage when he had it) and for that alone he will forever hold a place of gratitude in the nation's heart
However, closer examination in respect of some of his other actions/decisions might make you revise your assertion that there is no reason to criticise the man; and that is no more relevant than when (as Home Secretary) he sent in the troops to quell the impoverished miners during the so-called Tonyoandy Riots
Although the extent of Churchill's involvement is often disputed, as then Home Secretary the decision fell on him
However, I do agree that those out 'protesting' today clearly cannot think beyond their own heads

I thought the Lord Lieutenant of Glamorgan called the troops in and Churchill pulled them out?
Irrespective this Isn’t about BLM many of the groups in attend wantBoris out and Brexit reversed, same in the States this is about getting Trump out and Creepy Joe the sex case in.
That's where the confusion arises. Churchill initially rejected the requests as being OTT for troops, as at that point there had mainly been some hand to hand fighting, vandalism of one of the pump houses and some windows smashed by around 70 of the near thousand workers at Penygraig Pit
However, he sent in what are now the Met Police with a mounted section that included the option to deploy the military
"if required" and this led to the cavalry being used, although that particular unit weren't specifically authorised by the Home Office
The confusion surrounding Churchill is whether he signed the agreement (disputed by some) or was it someone below him?
Either way, Churchill was the man in charge and knew the situation
With regard to the march in London, I don't know what motivated these people to gather in a mass huddle and act like Grade 1 backsides during a pandemic, but I do know (from experience in my younger days) that many wouldn't really have a Scooby Doo of why they were there in reality and used it as an excuse to 'kick back' after the frustrations of the apparent lockdown
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