Drakeford the clown

It baffles me why so many posters on this forum support a Welsh team but at the same time are ready to run anything Wesh down.
I for one, am glad I live in Wales and am still in lockdown. I’m certainly not a Labour supporter but thak goodness we have an option here in Wales as Johnson has lost the plot completely. With more deaths than any other country bar USA do you really believe we are ready to come out of lockdown? Wales, Scotland ans NI don’t, and it’s not political point scoring it’s about saving lives!

your assuming the lockdown will save and not cost lives.. non covid death numbers are through the roof now and a little bit of research into how recession effects life expectancy and death will show you whats happening now is a drop in the ocean to what we have already stored up..

It is a right mess.

But those at blame are not Drakeford and Welsh Labour but the Prime Minister and the Government.

In fairness to Wez, he would never admit that.

The Tories seem to be pulling at straws after the annihilation Keir gave the PM yesterday.

What would be different if Corbyn or Starmer were in No. 10?

It is a right mess.

But those at blame are not Drakeford and Welsh Labour but the Prime Minister and the Government.

In fairness to Wez, he would never admit that.

The Tories seem to be pulling at straws after the annihilation Keir gave the PM yesterday.

What would be different if Corbyn or Starmer were in No. 10?

The post was about Drakeford as compared to Johnson.
Here’s a few more thoughts
Covid-19, a virus that ORIGINATED OVERSEAS, has spread here because a government that got elected off the back of closing borders (i.e. BREXIT) FAILED to close the borders when it really mattered (the early stages).

The results are horrific: -

UK - 50,000 DEAD.

NEW ZEALAND - 21. (Also an island)

Tens of thousands of people have died as a direct consequence of government policy. In NZ, the policy was to protect the public from day 1.

The Conservative & Unionist Party's policy at the CRITICAL EARLY STAGES was "HERD IMMUNITY". We must never, ever forget this.

Today, the UK government HAS NO POLICY AND NO DIRECTION.

Boris has given us the worst of both possible worlds: high deaths AND a trashed economy. That's what happens when you fudge opposite policies. In the critical early stages, he did nothing. Direct flights from WUHAN with NO CHECKS! (What's more, the silver spoon buffoon even caught the disease himself by shaking hands with people in hospitals - and bragged about it!).

WALES DOESN'T HAVE TO BE RUN BY THESE HYPOCRITES.
Only today, JAKE BERRY MP (Lancashire, England) has been spotted at the beach near his holiday home in north Wales (Rhoscolyn, Anglesey) despite having a social media avatar that says STAY HOME). We understand this has been reported to the North Wales Police and we hope he will be prosecuted for endangering the people in the local community.

WE NEED TO RUN OURSELVES
WE MUST PROTECT WALES

CYMRU AM BYTH

We do run ourselves.. that’s what everyone is complaining about. And your dumbo makes Drakeford look like Einstein..

It is a right mess.

But those at blame are not Drakeford and Welsh Labour but the Prime Minister and the Government.

In fairness to Wez, he would never admit that.

The Tories seem to be pulling at straws after the annihilation Keir gave the PM yesterday.

What would be different if Corbyn or Starmer were in No. 10?

Easy to watch and criticise from the outside mate. Labour are the experts at that.

I know mate.. I keep asking for good ideas to be put up for discussion as opposed to constant whinging and sniping, any chimp can do that. But what you get is more whinging and sniping. Its brainless.

I know mate.. I keep asking for good ideas to be put up for discussion as opposed to constant whinging and sniping, any chimp can do that. But what you get is more whinging and sniping. Its brainless.

I know mate. Whenever any opposition MP is on tv complaining I find myself screaming 'What would YOU do then?' and of course they rarely say. If the interviewer asks then all we get is a load of stuttering, waffling etc. Some things never change. I have constant nightmares of how Corbyn and his circus would have managed

First minister cautious over tourism return

BBC Radio 4

First Minister Mark Drakeford says he would like to open Wales to "some aspects of tourism" during the summer season so people can begin to earn a living.

But he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that it will have to be "careful and cautious and with the consent of the communities".

Mr Drakeford said a major meeting concerning tourism took place in the Welsh Government on Thursday and another was due today.

We do run ourselves.. that’s what everyone is complaining about. And your dumbo makes Drakeford look like Einstein..

Then you obviously don’t understand devolution. Only some aspects are devolved. Thankfully health and education being two as we are doing a far better job than England. The concern in England is the economy here in Wales as in Scotland and NI it’s saving people’s lives. And I’m not a Labour supporter

It is a right mess.

But those at blame are not Drakeford and Welsh Labour but the Prime Minister and the Government.

In fairness to Wez, he would never admit that.

The Tories seem to be pulling at straws after the annihilation Keir gave the PM yesterday.

Agree. Boris and his buffoons causes chaos. With no communication meetings with welsh government etc

We do run ourselves.. that’s what everyone is complaining about. And your dumbo makes Drakeford look like Einstein..

Then you obviously don’t understand devolution. Only some aspects are devolved. Thankfully health and education being two as we are doing a far better job than England. The concern in England is the economy here in Wales as in Scotland and NI it’s saving people’s lives. And I’m not a Labour supporter

Were back to ‘better than England’ again.. it’s all you have mate. And I’m not saying you support Labour. I said the failure that is Adam Pryce makes Drakeford look like a genius. You still haven’t explained his disastrous business venture at great cost to the taxpayer.. neither has he.

We do run ourselves.. that’s what everyone is complaining about. And your dumbo makes Drakeford look like Einstein..

Then you obviously don’t understand devolution. Only some aspects are devolved. Thankfully health and education being two as we are doing a far better job than England. The concern in England is the economy here in Wales as in Scotland and NI it’s saving people’s lives. And I’m not a Labour supporter

Education is definitely not better in Wales since devolution and it's not currently better either. The amount of money wasted is staggering.
I love my country and proud to be Welsh. I don't have a problem being British either and from what I've seen with our WAG (along with Scotland) they spend far too much time and effort doing different to what no 10 decides.

We do run ourselves.. that’s what everyone is complaining about. And your dumbo makes Drakeford look like Einstein..

Then you obviously don’t understand devolution. Only some aspects are devolved. Thankfully health and education being two as we are doing a far better job than England. The concern in England is the economy here in Wales as in Scotland and NI it’s saving people’s lives. And I’m not a Labour supporter

Were back to ‘better than England’ again.. it’s all you have mate. And I’m not saying you support Labour. I said the failure that is Adam Pryce makes Drakeford look like a genius. You still haven’t explained his disastrous business venture at great cost to the taxpayer.. neither has he.

Seems familiar doesn't it, all you have is 'better than Wales' Why do you run your country down so much? do you support Wales at football? I think this crisis is showing everybody that Wales is good enough, big enough and clever enough!

As for Adam Price, I'm not sure if you've got the right information regarding the ventilators. Have a read here...https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articl ... on-device/

If you can show me where money was wasted fair enough...

We do run ourselves.. that’s what everyone is complaining about. And your dumbo makes Drakeford look like Einstein..

Then you obviously don’t understand devolution. Only some aspects are devolved. Thankfully health and education being two as we are doing a far better job than England. The concern in England is the economy here in Wales as in Scotland and NI it’s saving people’s lives. And I’m not a Labour supporter

Education is definitely not better in Wales since devolution and it's not currently better either. The amount of money wasted is staggering.
I love my country and proud to be Welsh. I don't have a problem being British either and from what I've seen with our WAG (along with Scotland) they spend far too much time and effort doing different to what no 10 decides.

it's damn good thing that they're doing things differently regarding this virus don't you think?

We do run ourselves.. that’s what everyone is complaining about. And your dumbo makes Drakeford look like Einstein..

Then you obviously don’t understand devolution. Only some aspects are devolved. Thankfully health and education being two as we are doing a far better job than England. The concern in England is the economy here in Wales as in Scotland and NI it’s saving people’s lives. And I’m not a Labour supporter

Education is definitely not better in Wales since devolution and it's not currently better either. The amount of money wasted is staggering.
I love my country and proud to be Welsh. I don't have a problem being British either and from what I've seen with our WAG (along with Scotland) they spend far too much time and effort doing different to what no 10 decides.

it's damn good thing that they're doing things differently regarding this virus don't you think?

0.4 r rate in london now ,heard immunity springs to mind

We do run ourselves.. that’s what everyone is complaining about. And your dumbo makes Drakeford look like Einstein..

Then you obviously don’t understand devolution. Only some aspects are devolved. Thankfully health and education being two as we are doing a far better job than England. The concern in England is the economy here in Wales as in Scotland and NI it’s saving people’s lives. And I’m not a Labour supporter

Education is definitely not better in Wales since devolution and it's not currently better either. The amount of money wasted is staggering.
I love my country and proud to be Welsh. I don't have a problem being British either and from what I've seen with our WAG (along with Scotland) they spend far too much time and effort doing different to what no 10 decides.

it's damn good thing that they're doing things differently regarding this virus don't you think?

Time will tell mate

We do run ourselves.. that’s what everyone is complaining about. And your dumbo makes Drakeford look like Einstein..

Then you obviously don’t understand devolution. Only some aspects are devolved. Thankfully health and education being two as we are doing a far better job than England. The concern in England is the economy here in Wales as in Scotland and NI it’s saving people’s lives. And I’m not a Labour supporter

Education is definitely not better in Wales since devolution and it's not currently better either. The amount of money wasted is staggering.
I love my country and proud to be Welsh. I don't have a problem being British either and from what I've seen with our WAG (along with Scotland) they spend far too much time and effort doing different to what no 10 decides.

it's damn good thing that they're doing things differently regarding this virus don't you think?

0.4 r rate in london now ,heard immunity springs to mind

Yes, and now approaching the peak in the north of Wales hence you can’t have the same policy for both countries!

We do run ourselves.. that’s what everyone is complaining about. And your dumbo makes Drakeford look like Einstein..

Then you obviously don’t understand devolution. Only some aspects are devolved. Thankfully health and education being two as we are doing a far better job than England. The concern in England is the economy here in Wales as in Scotland and NI it’s saving people’s lives. And I’m not a Labour supporter

Education is definitely not better in Wales since devolution and it's not currently better either. The amount of money wasted is staggering.
I love my country and proud to be Welsh. I don't have a problem being British either and from what I've seen with our WAG (along with Scotland) they spend far too much time and effort doing different to what no 10 decides.

it's damn good thing that they're doing things differently regarding this virus don't you think?

0.4 r rate in london now ,heard immunity springs to mind

Yes, and now approaching the peak in the north of Wales hence you can’t have the same policy for both countries!

Breaking News - R goes up to between 0.7 - 1

Were back to ‘better than England’ again.. it’s all you have mate. And I’m not saying you support Labour. I said the failure that is Adam Pryce makes Drakeford look like a genius. You still haven’t explained his disastrous business venture at great cost to the taxpayer.. neither has he.[/quote]

Seems familiar doesn't it, all you have is 'better than Wales' Why do you run your country down so much? do you support Wales at football? I think this crisis is showing everybody that Wales is good enough, big enough and clever enough!

As for Adam Price, I'm not sure if you've got the right information regarding the ventilators. Have a read here...https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articl ... on-device/

If you can show me where money was wasted fair enough...[/quote]

Ventilators?? Im talking about Ideoba. Running the WAG down is not running Wales down. They are separate entities. And no, I don’t support Wales at football, just Cardiff City.

This extra tier of Government is a complete waste of money. If Wales was truly independent, it would be bust in a month. We’ve been through all this before. Welsh politics is embarrassing, and apart from a few notable exceptions, Welsh politicians are piss poor.

Were back to ‘better than England’ again.. it’s all you have mate. And I’m not saying you support Labour. I said the failure that is Adam Pryce makes Drakeford look like a genius. You still haven’t explained his disastrous business venture at great cost to the taxpayer.. neither has he.

Seems familiar doesn't it, all you have is 'better than Wales' Why do you run your country down so much? do you support Wales at football? I think this crisis is showing everybody that Wales is good enough, big enough and clever enough!

As for Adam Price, I'm not sure if you've got the right information regarding the ventilators. Have a read here...https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articl ... on-device/

If you can show me where money was wasted fair enough...[/quote]

Ventilators?? Im talking about Ideoba. Running the WAG down is not running Wales down. They are separate entities. And no, I don’t support Wales at football, just Cardiff City.

This extra tier of Government is a complete waste of money. If Wales was truly independent, it would be bust in a month. We’ve been through all this before. Welsh politics is embarrassing, and apart from a few notable exceptions, Welsh politicians are piss poor.[/quote]


Here's the Ideoba story from 2015. How you can blame this on Adam Price I'll never know!!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-32591409

The only embarrassing politicians I've lately are all in Westminster (the blue ones)

'Bust in a month' Do you know they said that about Malta, Ireland, Iceland etc etc but strangely not one has gone and asked to be a colony again. Strange eh.

Were back to ‘better than England’ again.. it’s all you have mate. And I’m not saying you support Labour. I said the failure that is Adam Pryce makes Drakeford look like a genius. You still haven’t explained his disastrous business venture at great cost to the taxpayer.. neither has he.

Seems familiar doesn't it, all you have is 'better than Wales' Why do you run your country down so much? do you support Wales at football? I think this crisis is showing everybody that Wales is good enough, big enough and clever enough!

As for Adam Price, I'm not sure if you've got the right information regarding the ventilators. Have a read here...https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articl ... on-device/

If you can show me where money was wasted fair enough...

Ventilators?? Im talking about Ideoba. Running the WAG down is not running Wales down. They are separate entities. And no, I don’t support Wales at football, just Cardiff City.

This extra tier of Government is a complete waste of money. If Wales was truly independent, it would be bust in a month. We’ve been through all this before. Welsh politics is embarrassing, and apart from a few notable exceptions, Welsh politicians are piss poor.[/quote]


Here's the Ideoba story from 2015. How you can blame this on Adam Price I'll never know!!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-32591409

The only embarrassing politicians I've lately are all in Westminster (the blue ones)

'Bust in a month' Do you know they said that about Malta, Ireland, Iceland etc etc but strangely not one has gone and asked to be a colony again. Strange eh.[/quote]


so in a nutshell you think Drakeford and the boys are doing really well.
but would also vote them all out for Adam Price thinkalikes in a heartbeat..

You let bigotry cloud your judgement. There are good politicians in all colours. Just not here.
As for the economics, that’s why your lot are nowhere. And thankfully, that’s how it’ll stay. In the south anyways..

We do run ourselves.. that’s what everyone is complaining about. And your dumbo makes Drakeford look like Einstein..

Then you obviously don’t understand devolution. Only some aspects are devolved. Thankfully health and education being two as we are doing a far better job than England. The concern in England is the economy here in Wales as in Scotland and NI it’s saving people’s lives. And I’m not a Labour supporter

I think you are letting your heart rule your head here bluegog
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-50563833
"Wales remained the lowest performing within the UK for all subjects, with Scotland better than Northern Ireland at reading and Northern Ireland outperforming Scotland at maths and science.

In reading tests, Wales scored below the average for OECD countries, while England, Scotland and Northern Ireland were all above average."

I agree the government have made some massive mistakes Cheltenham going ahead, delaying going into lockdown, but Vaughan Gething doesn't come out of this smelling of roses, remember the "signed contract on testing" that the company (roche) withdrew from if it was a signed contract lets see the copy of it.

lets just hope this shitstorm is over asap

#staysafe

Its true Firque..the Welsh people have been failed in the last 20 years by the incompetents in the bay..

Bluegog is a decent lad really, but has to get over the English..in fact, he reminds me of a little Englander in many aspects..he's just got a different colour flag.

Drakeford stated this week at his daily press conference that we can socialise with people from outside our household provided we observe social distancing.

He was completely wrong. Our lockdown rules don't allow such behaviour.

Drakeford stated this week at his daily press conference that we can socialise with people from outside our household provided we observe social distancing.

He was completely wrong. Our lockdown rules don't allow such behaviour.

he is head honcho mate , so if he says it ,you can do it.

It baffles me why so many posters on this forum support a Welsh team but at the same time are ready to run anything Wesh down.
I for one, am glad I live in Wales and am still in lockdown. I’m certainly not a Labour supporter but thak goodness we have an option here in Wales as Johnson has lost the plot completely. With more deaths than any other country bar USA do you really believe we are ready to come out of lockdown? Wales, Scotland ans NI don’t, and it’s not political point scoring it’s about saving lives!

I both support Cardiff and quite happy we play in the English pyramid..
and yes it was political point scoring.. which is disgusting considering what its over they all rushed to be on TV before Boris and then after their 15 minutes of fame tweaked the lockdowns to be more in line. oh and people are dying and going to die in huge numbers because of lockdown, not of covid.. if you watch any news programme or read any paper in between the coronaphobia this is becoming obvious, not that it wasn't from the getgo… non covid deaths are up by 12,117 over the 8 week period where there are figures supplied by the ONS to date... and the weekly figure of extra non covid deaths rises every week...its less than covid deaths but that's only assuming that the old weak people with multiple illness that are dying of covid are not the very same elderly weak people with existing illnesses that would have died anyway.... and that's before you even start on the general health of the nation both physical and mental.
so no its not health versus wealth and hasn't been for the huge majority of us from day 1..

Its true Firque..the Welsh people have been failed in the last 20 years by the incompetents in the bay..

Bluegog is a decent lad really, but has to get over the English..in fact, he reminds me of a little Englander in many aspects..he's just got a different colour flag.

I’m not anti English innany way mate but I’m certainly anti Westminster because of the way they treat Wales.

It baffles me why so many posters on this forum support a Welsh team but at the same time are ready to run anything Wesh down.
I for one, am glad I live in Wales and am still in lockdown. I’m certainly not a Labour supporter but thak goodness we have an option here in Wales as Johnson has lost the plot completely. With more deaths than any other country bar USA do you really believe we are ready to come out of lockdown? Wales, Scotland ans NI don’t, and it’s not political point scoring it’s about saving lives!

Sturgeon really is shite, check education, health and the economy in Scotland. She’s been a total disaster.

Its true Firque..the Welsh people have been failed in the last 20 years by the incompetents in the bay..

Bluegog is a decent lad really, but has to get over the English..in fact, he reminds me of a little Englander in many aspects..he's just got a different colour flag.

I’m not anti English innany way mate but I’m certainly anti Westminster because of the way they treat Wales.

What do you want from Westminster?