" Get ready for another peak in England "

[bluesince62]

The English freedom to allow people to travel in cars to exercise, will mean the Brecon Beacons will be full of walkers from England.

There is no way to police it, totally farcical situation.

I watched someone on the Welsh news earlier, forget his name,but he was asked the question you have brought up,all he said is,its wales and we are not doing the same here,and anyone who travels from England to wales,to excersise, they are open to being fined,my concerns are the same,but in reality it could happen,and we simply cannot police it!! Put signs up on the m4 & m50 then,warning anyone travelling from England will be stopped,fined and turned around, after all,they may well be infected,thus bringing more chance of spread here..I thought we were " in this together"???? On lockdown,the whole island should be united,otherwise,let us all do the same,it's pitifully poor leadership from Westminster and that buffoon boris!!

[skidemin]

You should have listened to the Prime Ministers speech before posting this.

People have been sunbathing in parks and on the beaches. The police have admitted they have lost control of this. So it will be allowed as long as they follow the rules, otherwise there will be an increased fine system.

Many of the people he talked about are already (or never stopped) working, like construction workers.
Schools have stayed open, and may open up more if the conditions are right in 3 weeks.
No mention of shops opening for some time.

I suggest you listen to his speech and not the left wing media outlets with an agenda.
The first minister of Wales (dreary Drakeford) even contradicted his own health minister (Vaughan Gethin) today, and basically agreed with the Prime Ministers stance.

It is almost certain there will be an increase in cases as the lockdown eases (as in every other country) followed by a 2nd, even 3rd wave, of the spread of the virus whatever precautions are taken.

Bring up this topic in a few weeks when I'm proven right.

Unless the rest of your body has joined your head up Boris Johnson's arse by then.

what will become evident is that deaths as a consequence of lockdown will outstrip those of covid..of not with..
boris message..not much changes.. but I thought labours guy was keen on an exit.. wanted an exit plan when deaths were over a thousand ?

Correct, our leader wanted an exit strategy and it was much needed.

But tonight's performance from the Prime Minister was very vague. There will be more details in Parliament tomorrow, and I look forward to hearing them - I really hope there is a lot more detail and that those who don't watch Parliament are informed well.

But I can only judge it on the Ministerial Statement tonight and Keir Starmer is right.

"Many people wanted clarity and some sort of consensus tonight, and I don't think they got either."

much needed.. come off it . an ever changing for the worse pandemic and out he comes with wanting exit strategy.... its going to change mate, not here but everywhere, what might look ok now could change depending on cases deaths and what is working or not working in other countries. at that point we were what now looks like a peak, spain and Italy were still hitting 500 deaths per day...and for all the experts worldwide nobody knew where we would be today just like we don't know how much better or worse it might be in another month..he sounded like a football pundit wanting boris to guess the prem outcome

[worcester_ccfc]

You should have listened to the Prime Ministers speech before posting this.

People have been sunbathing in parks and on the beaches. The police have admitted they have lost control of this. So it will be allowed as long as they follow the rules, otherwise there will be an increased fine system.

Many of the people he talked about are already (or never stopped) working, like construction workers.
Schools have stayed open, and may open up more if the conditions are right in 3 weeks.
No mention of shops opening for some time.

I suggest you listen to his speech and not the left wing media outlets with an agenda.
The first minister of Wales (dreary Drakeford) even contradicted his own health minister (Vaughan Gethin) today, and basically agreed with the Prime Ministers stance.

It is almost certain there will be an increase in cases as the lockdown eases (as in every other country) followed by a 2nd, even 3rd wave, of the spread of the virus whatever precautions are taken.

Bring up this topic in a few weeks when I'm proven right.

Unless the rest of your body has joined your head up Boris Johnson's arse by then.

what will become evident is that deaths as a consequence of lockdown will outstrip those of covid..of not with..
boris message..not much changes.. but I thought labours guy was keen on an exit.. wanted an exit plan when deaths were over a thousand ?

Correct, our leader wanted an exit strategy and it was much needed.

But tonight's performance from the Prime Minister was very vague. There will be more details in Parliament tomorrow, and I look forward to hearing them - I really hope there is a lot more detail and that those who don't watch Parliament are informed well.

But I can only judge it on the Ministerial Statement tonight and Keir Starmer is right.

"Many people wanted clarity and some sort of consensus tonight, and I don't think they got either."

much needed.. come off it . an ever changing for the worse pandemic and out he comes with wanting exit strategy.... its going to change mate, not here but everywhere, what might look ok now could change depending on cases deaths and what is working or not working in other countries. at that point we were what now looks like a peak, spain and Italy were still hitting 500 deaths per day...and for all the experts worldwide nobody knew where we would be today just like we don't know how much better or worse it might be in another month..he sounded like a football pundit wanting boris to guess the prem outcome

An exit strategy was always important. It's ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

The public's morale is very important and an exit strategy which the public understand is crucial to that.

The Government clearly agree or they wouldn't have done this.

Nearly every other country across the World have had an exit strategy, so to suggest it's not needed is at best discourteous to the general public and at worst a betrayal of the UK's values.

[Nuclearblue]

So there is the talk there is a real possibility that this virus was in our country last December even possibly October. So if it peaks later this month would that make it the third or even fourth peak ?
And if it did happen why didn’t we have a lockdown last year ? But we didn’t know about it I can hear you all say. But didn’t anyone notice the extra deaths ? Now come on if you believe what they are telling us it was averaging over 800 a day don’t you think we would of known ?
So either it isn’t true and we didn’t have this Virus the back end of last year or January or if it is true then they are lying over the number of deaths this time.
In America in some states they are paying coroners for every death certificate that they put Covid19 on Not saying it is happening here but for one they don’t have to have medical proof to state Covid19 as the cause of death.

[skidemin]

You should have listened to the Prime Ministers speech before posting this.

People have been sunbathing in parks and on the beaches. The police have admitted they have lost control of this. So it will be allowed as long as they follow the rules, otherwise there will be an increased fine system.

Many of the people he talked about are already (or never stopped) working, like construction workers.
Schools have stayed open, and may open up more if the conditions are right in 3 weeks.
No mention of shops opening for some time.

I suggest you listen to his speech and not the left wing media outlets with an agenda.
The first minister of Wales (dreary Drakeford) even contradicted his own health minister (Vaughan Gethin) today, and basically agreed with the Prime Ministers stance.

It is almost certain there will be an increase in cases as the lockdown eases (as in every other country) followed by a 2nd, even 3rd wave, of the spread of the virus whatever precautions are taken.

Bring up this topic in a few weeks when I'm proven right.

Unless the rest of your body has joined your head up Boris Johnson's arse by then.

what will become evident is that deaths as a consequence of lockdown will outstrip those of covid..of not with..
boris message..not much changes.. but I thought labours guy was keen on an exit.. wanted an exit plan when deaths were over a thousand ?

Correct, our leader wanted an exit strategy and it was much needed.

But tonight's performance from the Prime Minister was very vague. There will be more details in Parliament tomorrow, and I look forward to hearing them - I really hope there is a lot more detail and that those who don't watch Parliament are informed well.

But I can only judge it on the Ministerial Statement tonight and Keir Starmer is right.

"Many people wanted clarity and some sort of consensus tonight, and I don't think they got either."

much needed.. come off it . an ever changing for the worse pandemic and out he comes with wanting exit strategy.... its going to change mate, not here but everywhere, what might look ok now could change depending on cases deaths and what is working or not working in other countries. at that point we were what now looks like a peak, spain and Italy were still hitting 500 deaths per day...and for all the experts worldwide nobody knew where we would be today just like we don't know how much better or worse it might be in another month..he sounded like a football pundit wanting boris to guess the prem outcome

An exit strategy was always important. It's ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

The public's morale is very important and an exit strategy which the public understand is crucial to that.

The Government clearly agree or they wouldn't have done this.

Nearly every other country across the World have had an exit strategy, so to suggest it's not needed is at best discourteous to the general public and at worst a betrayal of the UK's values.

of course we would come out of lockdown at some point.. and of course it gets talked about in loose terms.. but in an ever changing situation to put out firm plans to exit something you've just put in place while both cases and deaths are rising would be insane..and yes every other country announced exit strategies after their peaks not when they were not sure they had even hit it..and lets be honest everyone and his goldfish knew one way or another it would be gradual not just an announcement that tomorrow everything is back to normal... im all for labour asking questions. but how about questions that are constructive or being critical providing they've been honest enough to say what they think first and not this wait for whats said and then throw stones no matter what it is he says... its poor because you can be critical after the event if he extended it as is.. slackened slightly or tightened...

[Tony Blue Williams]

Let me take you back to the start when it was : 5 PILLARS then 5 KEY MEASURES and now 5 LEVELS ....

I Have tried to find these 5 LEVELS to post but No luck to date . We are on level 4 or 3 and trying to get to level 2 etc...

Whenever the word level came to me and i was playing Blankety Blank - it would be -- Level ( 42 ) .

Now they had some hits ( for the older posters out there !! ) Remember " The Chinese Way " Hmmmm.

At a guess I would think the 5 levels will be similar to Spain's phased return to a new normal. We 'should' hopefully find out more tonight when Boris is taking the press conference @ 7pm.

[Tony Blue Williams]

So there is the talk there is a real possibility that this virus was in our country last December even possibly October. So if it peaks later this month would that make it the third or even fourth peak ?
And if it did happen why didn’t we have a lockdown last year ? But we didn’t know about it I can hear you all say. But didn’t anyone notice the extra deaths ? Now come on if you believe what they are telling us it was averaging over 800 a day don’t you think we would of known ?
So either it isn’t true and we didn’t have this Virus the back end of last year or January or if it is true then they are lying over the number of deaths this time.
In America in some states they are paying coroners for every death certificate that they put Covid19 on Not saying it is happening here but for one they don’t have to have medical proof to state Covid19 as the cause of death.

This virus will be with us for decades to come. The H1N1 flu virus which comes around every winter originates from Spanish flu which first appeared in 1918 and has been through hundreds of waves since.

As for the death/infection numbers I agree every Government in the world has bullshitted it's figures only the scale of the deception is different.

[Jock]

So there is the talk there is a real possibility that this virus was in our country last December even possibly October. So if it peaks later this month would that make it the third or even fourth peak ?
And if it did happen why didn’t we have a lockdown last year ? But we didn’t know about it I can hear you all say. But didn’t anyone notice the extra deaths ? Now come on if you believe what they are telling us it was averaging over 800 a day don’t you think we would of known ?
So either it isn’t true and we didn’t have this Virus the back end of last year or January or if it is true then they are lying over the number of deaths this time.
In America in some states they are paying coroners for every death certificate that they put Covid19 on Not saying it is happening here but for one they don’t have to have medical proof to state Covid19 as the cause of death.

This virus will be with us for decades to come. The H1N1 flu virus which comes around every winter originates from Spanish flu which first appeared in 1918 and has been through hundreds of waves since.

As for the death/infection numbers I agree every Government in the world has bullshitted it's figures only the scale of the deception is different.

Tony if the first Covid outbreak and deaths were in the U.K. and it started around Porton Down what would you think about it’s origins?

[Tony Blue Williams]

So there is the talk there is a real possibility that this virus was in our country last December even possibly October. So if it peaks later this month would that make it the third or even fourth peak ?
And if it did happen why didn’t we have a lockdown last year ? But we didn’t know about it I can hear you all say. But didn’t anyone notice the extra deaths ? Now come on if you believe what they are telling us it was averaging over 800 a day don’t you think we would of known ?
So either it isn’t true and we didn’t have this Virus the back end of last year or January or if it is true then they are lying over the number of deaths this time.
In America in some states they are paying coroners for every death certificate that they put Covid19 on Not saying it is happening here but for one they don’t have to have medical proof to state Covid19 as the cause of death.

This virus will be with us for decades to come. The H1N1 flu virus which comes around every winter originates from Spanish flu which first appeared in 1918 and has been through hundreds of waves since.

As for the death/infection numbers I agree every Government in the world has bullshitted it's figures only the scale of the deception is different.

Tony if the first Covid outbreak and deaths were in the U.K. and it started around Porton Down what would you think about it’s origins?

Yes I would. Whilst I don't know the exact origins of COVID-19 I certainly would-not rule out an accidental leak from the viral lab which is apparently in Wuhan.

[Jock]

So there is the talk there is a real possibility that this virus was in our country last December even possibly October. So if it peaks later this month would that make it the third or even fourth peak ?
And if it did happen why didn’t we have a lockdown last year ? But we didn’t know about it I can hear you all say. But didn’t anyone notice the extra deaths ? Now come on if you believe what they are telling us it was averaging over 800 a day don’t you think we would of known ?
So either it isn’t true and we didn’t have this Virus the back end of last year or January or if it is true then they are lying over the number of deaths this time.
In America in some states they are paying coroners for every death certificate that they put Covid19 on Not saying it is happening here but for one they don’t have to have medical proof to state Covid19 as the cause of death.

This virus will be with us for decades to come. The H1N1 flu virus which comes around every winter originates from Spanish flu which first appeared in 1918 and has been through hundreds of waves since.

As for the death/infection numbers I agree every Government in the world has bullshitted it's figures only the scale of the deception is different.

Tony if the first Covid outbreak and deaths were in the U.K. and it started around Porton Down what would you think about it’s origins?

Yes I would. Whilst I don't know the exact origins of COVID-19 I certainly would-not rule out an accidental leak from the viral lab which is apparently in Wuhan.

The whole thing looks dodgy, can’t be doing with mental conspiracy theorists but this is definitely suspect.

[BlueGog]

That's if people follow the Prime Minister's advice.

If you live in Wales or Scotland, just go with what your First Minister says. Listen to Stormont if you live in Northern Ireland.

But in England there will be millions going back to work, people sunbathing in parks and soon schools reopening, shops open etc.

There will be another peak in England within the next few weeks.

Shambolic.

England..........................Wales
Millions going back to work - Same
People sunbathing in parks - Same
Schools reopening in June - Same
Shops reopen - Shit we just opened garden centres 2 days earlier Armageddon

Its all the same just the devolved governments odn't have the real responsibility as when in doubt they just blame London.

Sorry pal but you've got it totally wrong.
The Welsh Government orders us to STAY HOME, anyone not doing that is breaking the law. There have been numerous cases of people been fined for non essential travel. Many 'tourist' have been fined, sent home and then have to report at their local police station. Happening all the time up here.
Anyone 'sunbathing etc' is doing so at their own risk and against WG advice.
School will not open in June. WG Education Minister Kirsty Williams stated this last week. The unions have stated that the schools need three weeks notice before opening. As for the clown Johnson's idea of sending reception children to school in June, can you see 5 year olds keeping a safe distance from each other. The man's a total idiot but unfortunately this idiot has blood on his hands!

[worcester_ccfc]

Even worse performance from the Prime Minister tonight

No wonder last night was pre recorded

[Cardiff dyskinesia]

I find it a little strange that people seemed quite happy to go into lockdown when the government said that the reason for the lockdown was that they were "following the science".

Presumably the government are still "following the science" in loosening the restrictions but the population seems unwilling to accept the same scientific advice that led to the lockdown in the first place.

Unless the government have decided to ignore the current scientific advice?

If however the government is indeed following the science it just goes to show how terrified the population has become over the last few months and how they are no longer willing to accept what they are being told by those in charge.

The truth is A lot of people are comfortable on furlough payments mate and happy getting paid to sit at home.
I looked at my Facebook and all the people who were self employed or sole earners in the house were happy to get back to earning money , the ones who have normal full or part time shop jobs were kicking off. Strange that.

Don’t do the tory’s dirty work, dividing ordinary people with this poison to distract from their inept performance. Haven’t you thought that these people with ordinary jobs might be genuinely scared?

[thomasblue]

Even worse performance from the Prime Minister tonight

No wonder last night was pre recorded

That was the first time I've listened to it and thought he is under pressure. He didnt answer a single question properly and was trying to hand ove to the other two quickly which is not like him.

He looked like he did not believe the answers he was spitting out were the right thing to do. Maybe hes being pressured into easing this lockdown when in reality he doesnt want to really do it yet

[TopCat CCFC]

New lockdown laws published

The revised rules on what you can and can't do in England


Dominic Casciani

Home Affairs Correspondent

These are the all-important new legal rules for the lockdown in England.

They are written in Parliamentary legal language so can be hard to read. But here are the most important parts.

From midnight tonight you can:

Visit a "public open space" for "open-air recreation to promote physical or mental health or emotional wellbeing"
That can be done with one member of another household

A public space includes any open or public land or a "public garden"

The new regulation confirms that garden centres can open - and that people can visit estate agents and view homes they want to buy or rent.

Right Move !!!

[TopCat CCFC]

Happy new home - house moves in England can restart

House moves and viewings will be able to resume again in England from tomorrow.

In changes by the Government to lockdown regulations, potential buyers and renters will be able to visit showhomes and view houses which are on the market to let or buy.

Moving home will also be allowed again, as will visiting estate agents and letting agents.

Anyone who has already bought a new home will be able to visit it to prepare it for moving in.