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Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Sun May 10, 2020 9:52 pm

Hmmmm?
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Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Sun May 10, 2020 10:30 pm

So, the Prime Minister is urging millions of non-essential workers to go out to work - but also telling people we still can’t see family or friends even if we maintain the same social distancing rules as non-essential workers at work?
Makes no sense.

Re: Could someone tell me ?

Sun May 10, 2020 11:16 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:'People will be fined for driving to exercise in Wales'

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has relaxed the exercise rules in England saying can people “drive to other destinations" for a walk.

But the Welsh Government's Counsel General Jeremy Miles has said this is not the case in Wales.

"Our regulations do not permit people to get in their car and drive to destinations in Wales," said Mr Miles.

"And that also means people getting in their cars in England."

Mr Miles says the police in Wales "absolutely have the power to fine" people for making non-essential journeys and not exercising near their homes.



I saw that interview, but the real concern is they cannot police it here now,what makes him think it will be different now?? The we are in this together b@locks is doing my box in! If we were,we would ALL still be on lockdown,as weak as that is! There were parties everywhere, including the end of the street I live in,no social distancing, strangers from other areas turning up all dancing together, but although the police went past(more than once! ) not a word was said to them,in fact they also went straight past a group of about 20 youths playing in a five aside (basketball) area,and I happened to be behind a police van,they didn't even slow down!! I was expecting them to have at least try and disperse them,but not a peep,so I know they won't be policing those who decide to "excersise and sit on our beaches" this is a piss poor decision by boris and his cronies (again!) No wonder people are confused :banghead: :old: :bluebird:

Re: Could someone tell me ?

Sun May 10, 2020 11:30 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:'People will be fined for driving to exercise in Wales'

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has relaxed the exercise rules in England saying can people “drive to other destinations" for a walk.

But the Welsh Government's Counsel General Jeremy Miles has said this is not the case in Wales.

"Our regulations do not permit people to get in their car and drive to destinations in Wales," said Mr Miles.

"And that also means people getting in their cars in England."

Mr Miles says the police in Wales "absolutely have the power to fine" people for making non-essential journeys and not exercising near their homes.



I saw that interview, but the real concern is they cannot police it here now,what makes him think it will be different now?? The we are in this together b@locks is doing my box in! If we were,we would ALL still be on lockdown,as weak as that is! There were parties everywhere, including the end of the street I live in,no social distancing, strangers from other areas turning up all dancing together, but although the police went past(more than once! ) not a word was said to them,in fact they also went straight past a group of about 20 youths playing in a five aside (basketball) area,and I happened to be behind a police van,they didn't even slow down!! I was expecting them to have at least try and disperse them,but not a peep,so I know they won't be policing those who decide to "excersise and sit on our beaches" this is a piss poor decision by boris and his cronies (again!) No wonder people are confused :banghead: :old: :bluebird:



the lockdown needs easing.. and the scare everyone to death language needed toning down..

Re: Could someone tell me ?

Mon May 11, 2020 12:07 am

skidemin wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:'People will be fined for driving to exercise in Wales'

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has relaxed the exercise rules in England saying can people “drive to other destinations" for a walk.

But the Welsh Government's Counsel General Jeremy Miles has said this is not the case in Wales.

"Our regulations do not permit people to get in their car and drive to destinations in Wales," said Mr Miles.

"And that also means people getting in their cars in England."

Mr Miles says the police in Wales "absolutely have the power to fine" people for making non-essential journeys and not exercising near their homes.



I saw that interview, but the real concern is they cannot police it here now,what makes him think it will be different now?? The we are in this together b@locks is doing my box in! If we were,we would ALL still be on lockdown,as weak as that is! There were parties everywhere, including the end of the street I live in,no social distancing, strangers from other areas turning up all dancing together, but although the police went past(more than once! ) not a word was said to them,in fact they also went straight past a group of about 20 youths playing in a five aside (basketball) area,and I happened to be behind a police van,they didn't even slow down!! I was expecting them to have at least try and disperse them,but not a peep,so I know they won't be policing those who decide to "excersise and sit on our beaches" this is a piss poor decision by boris and his cronies (again!) No wonder people are confused :banghead: :old: :bluebird:



the lockdown needs easing.. and the scare everyone to death language needed toning down..


Or we all comevents out at the same times, as now in England people willbe put in droves,Thus increasing the chance of the virus spreading again,if that's what they believe? What makes England any different to us or Scotland? After all, they have the most deaths being attributed to this virus,so why the easing of restrictions there but not elswhere? It is a very naive move in my opinion,I no longer listen to the daily nonsense,or watch mainstream b@llox either,and every action they take,I mistrust them even more.that's me though. :old: :bluebird:

Re: Could someone tell me ?

Mon May 11, 2020 12:38 am

bluesince62 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:'People will be fined for driving to exercise in Wales'

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has relaxed the exercise rules in England saying can people “drive to other destinations" for a walk.

But the Welsh Government's Counsel General Jeremy Miles has said this is not the case in Wales.

"Our regulations do not permit people to get in their car and drive to destinations in Wales," said Mr Miles.

"And that also means people getting in their cars in England."

Mr Miles says the police in Wales "absolutely have the power to fine" people for making non-essential journeys and not exercising near their homes.



I saw that interview, but the real concern is they cannot police it here now,what makes him think it will be different now?? The we are in this together b@locks is doing my box in! If we were,we would ALL still be on lockdown,as weak as that is! There were parties everywhere, including the end of the street I live in,no social distancing, strangers from other areas turning up all dancing together, but although the police went past(more than once! ) not a word was said to them,in fact they also went straight past a group of about 20 youths playing in a five aside (basketball) area,and I happened to be behind a police van,they didn't even slow down!! I was expecting them to have at least try and disperse them,but not a peep,so I know they won't be policing those who decide to "excersise and sit on our beaches" this is a piss poor decision by boris and his cronies (again!) No wonder people are confused :banghead: :old: :bluebird:



the lockdown needs easing.. and the scare everyone to death language needed toning down..


Or we all comevents out at the same times, as now in England people willbe put in droves,Thus increasing the chance of the virus spreading again,if that's what they believe? What makes England any different to us or Scotland? After all, they have the most deaths being attributed to this virus,so why the easing of restrictions there but not elswhere? It is a very naive move in my opinion,I no longer listen to the daily nonsense,or watch mainstream b@llox either,and every action they take,I mistrust them even more.that's me though. :old: :bluebird:



it depends what you believe... I don't believe this was worthy of these restrictions to start with...and I don't believe Boris went far enough last night to be honest..
what if something comes along that kills 1% { that's 200 times more than this } of us randomly and equally of all ages with or without prior conditions. what then ? that is actually what I thought it would take for the actions being taken to happen.. judging the reaction for this maybe if that did happen thousands would just die of fright ..

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 7:21 am

ITV
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Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 7:23 am

ITV this morning


Apparently you can travel 300 miles now to a park or beach but not to your family ?

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 7:24 am

2blue2handle wrote:I really dont underatand why anyone with hearing and sight have any confusion. The rules differ from England to Wales but they are still very clear with more info to come in England. I find the political point scoring going on over social media poor.


Luke,


So you really understood all the rules last night?
Honesty



ITV this morning


Apparently you can travel 300 miles now to a park or beach but not to your family ?

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 7:25 am

ITV

How are they going to police this?

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 7:27 am

Why tell people in a Sunday night, you can go back to work tomorrow.

Why not say it last Thursday or Friday?

So people can prepare

Dr Hilary very confused.

“Guess what cleaners can work in someone’s home.”

“Yet you can’t go to see your family in their homes.”



“Are dentists allowed back? .”


"So cleaners can go house to house??"

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 7:31 am

Confusion over Boris Johnson's tentative three-stage lockdown exit plan to get Britain back to normal within three months as

PM says millions MUST return to work today and can exercise as much as they like - but people STILL cannot see their relatives

Boris Johnson has made an address to the nation laying out his 'exit strategy' from the coronavirus lockdown

The premier tells Britons to 'stay alert, control virus and save lives' in new government coronavirus slogan
But within minutes of the speech, political rivals said it created confusion over who could meet up and where
Colleagues can return to work in any numbers if social distancing is enforced, but families cannot meet up

Johnson's 'conditional' plan could see schools start to open in June and parts of hospitality industry in July
He will introduce a five-tier DefCon-style warning system to monitor the threat the virus poses in the UK

Garden centres will be given the green light to reopen from Wednesday with 'social distancing' rules in place
Once-a-day-rule on outdoor exercise is being ditched and bigger focus on going to work where possible
There are concerns No 10's order to 'stay at home' had been too effective and damaged the UK economy
PM has come under fire from Nicola Sturgeon and Labour for 'mistake' and 'total joke' new 'stay alert' mantra

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 8:02 am

UK Monday 11/05/20
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Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 8:03 am

Forever Blue wrote:Hmmmm?



You can Piers you tool, at 2 metres outside :roll:

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 8:05 am

Forever Blue wrote:Why tell people in a Sunday night, you can go back to work tomorrow.

Why not say it last Thursday or Friday?

So people can prepare

Dr Hilary very confused.

“Guess what cleaners can work in someone’s home.”

“Yet you can’t go to see your family in their homes.”



“Are dentists allowed back? .”


"So cleaners can go house to house??"


It wasn't clear but they have confirmed today it's back to work on Wednesday.

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 8:06 am

Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Hmmmm?



You can Piers you tool, at 2 metres outside :roll:



:lol:

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 8:08 am

Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Why tell people in a Sunday night, you can go back to work tomorrow.

Why not say it last Thursday or Friday?

So people can prepare

Dr Hilary very confused.

“Guess what cleaners can work in someone’s home.”

“Yet you can’t go to see your family in their homes.”



“Are dentists allowed back? .”


"So cleaners can go house to house??"


It wasn't clear but they have confirmed today it's back to work on Wednesday.



You have to admit , Boris left the UK so confused yesterday and everyone really does not know exactly what are the rules now.

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 8:10 am

Why has not Boris kept to the same rules as the other 3 nations people are getting confused on what they can and cannot do , It could be the case that England lifts their lockdown before the other home nations then there will be real problems , the police can’t cope as it is.

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 8:11 am

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Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 8:14 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Why tell people in a Sunday night, you can go back to work tomorrow.

Why not say it last Thursday or Friday?

So people can prepare

Dr Hilary very confused.

“Guess what cleaners can work in someone’s home.”

“Yet you can’t go to see your family in their homes.”



“Are dentists allowed back? .”


"So cleaners can go house to house??"


It wasn't clear but they have confirmed today it's back to work on Wednesday.



You have to admit , Boris left the UK so confused yesterday and everyone really does not know exactly what are the rules now.



He did, it was a mistake, he should have done his little speech you can't include everything, then released the 50 page book straight away and taken 20 questions to clear up some of the most important points, and then said the rest is in the booklet.

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 8:14 am

Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Why tell people in a Sunday night, you can go back to work tomorrow.

Why not say it last Thursday or Friday?

So people can prepare

Dr Hilary very confused.

“Guess what cleaners can work in someone’s home.”

“Yet you can’t go to see your family in their homes.”



“Are dentists allowed back? .”


"So cleaners can go house to house??"


It wasn't clear but they have confirmed today it's back to work on Wednesday.



You have to admit , Boris left the UK so confused yesterday and everyone really does not know exactly what are the rules now.



He did, it was a mistake, he should have done his little speech you can't include everything, then released the 50 page book straight away and taken 20 questions to clear up some of the most important points, and then said the rest is in the booklet.


Totally agree

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 8:50 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Why tell people in a Sunday night, you can go back to work tomorrow.

Why not say it last Thursday or Friday?

So people can prepare

Dr Hilary very confused.

“Guess what cleaners can work in someone’s home.”

“Yet you can’t go to see your family in their homes.”



“Are dentists allowed back? .”


"So cleaners can go house to house??"


It wasn't clear but they have confirmed today it's back to work on Wednesday.



You have to admit , Boris left the UK so confused yesterday and everyone really does not know exactly what are the rules now.



He did, it was a mistake, he should have done his little speech you can't include everything, then released the 50 page book straight away and taken 20 questions to clear up some of the most important points, and then said the rest is in the booklet.


Totally agree


He was clear on his speech

Full details will be marked out during his time in westminster this morning and he will take questions at 5pm today to answer any further questions

What more can he do ?

It's not his fault the other nations leaders want to try and go there own way just to justify there jobs.
All four countries should follow the prime minister who was voted in for this exact reason, and I dont even like the guy but hes in charge the scottish and welsh governments are only doing it differently to try and break up the UK permanently especially sturgeon.

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 8:54 am

thomasblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Why tell people in a Sunday night, you can go back to work tomorrow.

Why not say it last Thursday or Friday?

So people can prepare

Dr Hilary very confused.

“Guess what cleaners can work in someone’s home.”

“Yet you can’t go to see your family in their homes.”



“Are dentists allowed back? .”


"So cleaners can go house to house??"


It wasn't clear but they have confirmed today it's back to work on Wednesday.



You have to admit , Boris left the UK so confused yesterday and everyone really does not know exactly what are the rules now.



He did, it was a mistake, he should have done his little speech you can't include everything, then released the 50 page book straight away and taken 20 questions to clear up some of the most important points, and then said the rest is in the booklet.


Totally agree


He was clear on his speech

Full details will be marked out during his time in westminster this morning and he will take questions at 5pm today to answer any further questions

What more can he do ?

It's not his fault the other nations want to try and go there own way just to justify there jobs.
All four countries should follow the prime minister who was voted in for this exact reason, and I dont even like the guy but hes in charge the scottish and welsh governments are only doing it differently to try and break up the UK permanently especially sturgeon.



Thomas,


Sorry but I don’t agree with you and it seems most of the UK don’t either , poor leadership .


Just a couple of many

Don’t use public transport / but get to work

Why did No one in the UK Govt realise what a risk this was ?
Airports will now stop you, but after over three months he let 18 million people in without any questions at all, UK airports were amongst the 10% .

You can travel hundreds of miles to go to a beach or park but not visit your loved ones

Absolutely shocking

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 9:01 am

thomasblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Why tell people in a Sunday night, you can go back to work tomorrow.

Why not say it last Thursday or Friday?

So people can prepare

Dr Hilary very confused.

“Guess what cleaners can work in someone’s home.”

“Yet you can’t go to see your family in their homes.”



“Are dentists allowed back? .”


"So cleaners can go house to house??"


It wasn't clear but they have confirmed today it's back to work on Wednesday.



You have to admit , Boris left the UK so confused yesterday and everyone really does not know exactly what are the rules now.



He did, it was a mistake, he should have done his little speech you can't include everything, then released the 50 page book straight away and taken 20 questions to clear up some of the most important points, and then said the rest is in the booklet.


Totally agree


He was clear on his speech

Full details will be marked out during his time in westminster this morning and he will take questions at 5pm today to answer any further questions

What more can he do ?

It's not his fault the other nations leaders want to try and go there own way just to justify there jobs.
All four countries should follow the prime minister who was voted in for this exact reason, and I dont even like the guy but hes in charge the scottish and welsh governments are only doing it differently to try and break up the UK permanently especially sturgeon.


Spot on. Wales and Scotland were always going to be different when the opportunity to do so presented itself. Playing the only adult in the playground role. Anything to justify the Micky Mouse parliaments they lead. At the end of the day BJ is the UK PM - for something like CV19 the one thing that you would have thought important is to have all mainland UK regions doing the same thing..

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 9:02 am

Boris Johnson:
Don’t go to work , go to work , stay in, no go outside , use public transport, don’t use public transport , go and chat to a friend at safety level, but don’t visit relatives at safety levels , Stay at home , No just stay alert , play football with relatives in the parks but don’t go and visit them etc etc

Go to work tomorrow, no go Wednesday now

If they don’t understand how can we:

Andrew Brudgen Conservative MP ( Leicester) said yes go and visit your family, but I don’t speak for the Govt, you could not make it up :lol:

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 9:05 am

I agree it may be a bit too soon for many but the economy has to move sometime.

He said he would lay out details today, he NEVER said you can travel hundreds of miles that is Piers Morgan being a dick and causing shit like normal. I fully expect them to say today that excersise will still have to be done local to your house but as many times as you like. They never once said beaches were allowed to open either

He said walk and use cycling as much as possible as it is safer which is a fact anyway and will help stop the spread.

For weeks everyone has been banging on about airport checks , now they have done it they are still told they are wrong

Regarding work , they never closed factories and warehouses, if people do not go to work on these places we will very soon run out of food and essentials . That has to happen regardless of we are all in the shit.

Everyone needs to wait for the fully laid out plans today before jumping on them in my opinion. He has a very very difficult job on his hands

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 10:45 am

Just announced you can see your family members and travel to them :thumbright: :thumbright:

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 10:48 am

thomasblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Why tell people in a Sunday night, you can go back to work tomorrow.

Why not say it last Thursday or Friday?

So people can prepare

Dr Hilary very confused.

“Guess what cleaners can work in someone’s home.”

“Yet you can’t go to see your family in their homes.”



“Are dentists allowed back? .”


"So cleaners can go house to house??"


It wasn't clear but they have confirmed today it's back to work on Wednesday.



You have to admit , Boris left the UK so confused yesterday and everyone really does not know exactly what are the rules now.



He did, it was a mistake, he should have done his little speech you can't include everything, then released the 50 page book straight away and taken 20 questions to clear up some of the most important points, and then said the rest is in the booklet.


Totally agree


He was clear on his speech

Full details will be marked out during his time in westminster this morning and he will take questions at 5pm today to answer any further questions

What more can he do ?

It's not his fault the other nations leaders want to try and go there own way just to justify there jobs.
All four countries should follow the prime minister who was voted in for this exact reason, and I dont even like the guy but hes in charge the scottish and welsh governments are only doing it differently to try and break up the UK permanently especially sturgeon.

Agree

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 10:50 am

Some of you on here can't have any common sense and need the government to hold your hands and spell out in layman's terms everything ffs it's getting a bit of a joke now ,if you can't understand the advice stay in and dont put other members of the public at risk !

Re: Could someone tell me ? ( Honest Question)

Mon May 11, 2020 10:53 am

Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Why tell people in a Sunday night, you can go back to work tomorrow.

Why not say it last Thursday or Friday?

So people can prepare

Dr Hilary very confused.

“Guess what cleaners can work in someone’s home.”

“Yet you can’t go to see your family in their homes.”



“Are dentists allowed back? .”


"So cleaners can go house to house??"


It wasn't clear but they have confirmed today it's back to work on Wednesday.



You have to admit , Boris left the UK so confused yesterday and everyone really does not know exactly what are the rules now.



He did, it was a mistake, he should have done his little speech you can't include everything, then released the 50 page book straight away and taken 20 questions to clear up some of the most important points, and then said the rest is in the booklet.

He did say the detail is released today ,people need to take a step back and read the 50 pages today ,the media have made up most of there headlines today and are a massive problem to the public