OFF TOPIC: CORONAVIRUS IN WALES

[bluesince62]

I’m over in Tenerife at the moment,you would nt know there was a problem,straight through airport no signs,no restriction and no checks

Well I was watching the news earlier on a coach full of people being allowed to leave the hotel where there had been isolation protocol in place?

[caerblue]

I’m over in Tenerife at the moment,you would nt know there was a problem,straight through airport no signs,no restriction and no checks

Well I was watching the news earlier on a coach full of people being allowed to leave the hotel where there had been isolation protocol in place?

My point being was without the news or internet,you wouldn’t know there was an out break in tenerife

[OriginalGrangeEndBlue]

I’m in Singapore at the moment and the only visible difference to other journeys at Changi airport is extra hand sanitisers about the place and a desk where they are checking travellers incoming with temperature screening.

Extra cleaning of high contact ares is apparently going on also.

I don’t believe they’re allowing anyone who has been to China within the last 14 days in either.

[montyblue]

ORIGIONALGRANGEENDBLUE


hope you stay safe, and if you happen spot a decent striker out there inform the board at city .

[Isawgarystevensscoreagoal]

Just saying

[montyblue]

ISAWGARYSTEVENSSCOREAGOAL

Thing is this has only just started its new your quoting figures and illnesses that have been around for a long time this is only just starting with no anti virus for 12 months

[OriginalGrangeEndBlue]

ORIGIONALGRANGEENDBLUE


hope you stay safe, and if you happen spot a decent striker out there inform the board at city .

Thanks Monty boy!

Been away travelling quite a while now and no signs of a decent striker anyway!!
The good thing is I’ve missed a load of games which is no big loss from what I can gather.

[2blue2handle]

first one in Cardiff now.

[TopCat CCFC]

2 more in Wales today

[bluesince62]

I’m over in Tenerife at the moment,you would nt know there was a problem,straight through airport no signs,no restriction and no checks

Well I was watching the news earlier on a coach full of people being allowed to leave the hotel where there had been isolation protocol in place?

My point being was without the news or internet,you wouldn’t know there was an out break in tenerife

Fair enough

[dogfound]

ISAWGARYSTEVENSSCOREAGOAL

Thing is this has only just started its new your quoting figures and illnesses that have been around for a long time this is only just starting with no anti virus for 12 months

its still extremely low numbers mate
I will consider getting concerned when 1% of the population have been infected { if ever } . that's 23,000 times worse than it is now.

[TopCat CCFC]

Another 2 today in Wales .

[bluesince62]

Another 2 today in Wales .

15 at last count.

[Bluebina]

ISAWGARYSTEVENSSCOREAGOAL

Thing is this has only just started its new your quoting figures and illnesses that have been around for a long time this is only just starting with no anti virus for 12 months

its still extremely low numbers mate
I will consider getting concerned when 1% of the population have been infected { if ever } . that's 23,000 times worse than it is now.

We’ve done well so far but most predictions day we are two weeks behind Italy, so things will probably look a lot different in the next three weeks.

[Forever Blue]

Nine more individuals in Wales have tested positive for coronavirus, health officials confirmed on Tuesday evening.

It brings the number of cases in the nation to 15, after the first case was confirmed in Swansea 12 days ago .

Wales' chief medical officer said seven of the new infections were identified following a resident in the Neath Port Talbot area contracting the virus.

The other two new cases are from the Carmarthenshire area and had recently returned from northern Italy.

Five of the new cases linked to the first Neath Port Talbot patient identified on Monday are living in the same council area.

Another is from Swansea, while the seventh is a resident in the Cardiff area.

Earlier on Tuesday, a call centre in Cardiff was closed after an individual there was diagnosed with Covid-19.

The Sky contact centre was evacuated at 14:30 GMT and is undergoing a "deep clean".

In a statement, Sky said: "We can confirm that a Sky colleague in our Cardiff contact centre has been diagnosed with Covid-19 and they are self-isolating at home."

[Logie]

Dunno if people know Joe Rogan pod cast but he had an interview with a medical detectice who gives lots of information on Corna

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZFhjMQrVts

Yea some of it is a bit scary, but he offers advice. Good to see kids dont really get ill from it but they still fking spread it lol

[bluesince62]

Was watching the news last night, an interview with a top doctor in Italy, and he described it as being at war! It will be a couple more weeks at least,before we know how bad it's going to get,fingers crossed everyone.

[BLUE54]

Just a point, I don't know if I've missed any reports, but the running daily total of confirmed cases (& unfortunately deaths) is issued daily. It is now over 2 weeks since the first confirmed case in GB. What I haven't seen is any running total of any of these confirmed cases where people have recovered. Do any of you know if there has been yet, and if so, are they taken off the running total?

[epping blue]

Just a point, I don't know if I've missed any reports, but the running daily total of confirmed cases (& unfortunately deaths) is issued daily. It is now over 2 weeks since the first confirmed case in GB. What I haven't seen is any running total of any of these confirmed cases where people have recovered. Do any of you know if there has been yet, and if so, are they taken off the running total?

Put worldometers coronavirus into google. Great for the stats if that interests you. I don't think we list many clear of the illness and we don't given any figures for those critically ill. That's one of the alarming things on Italy. Despite the numbers who die the figures given for the numbers critically ill are rising faster day on day.

[BLUE54]

No I’m not interested in stats. My point is that we are constantly told how many are infected, but not how many of those have recovered. In my opinion that’s also important for the public to know. Or doesn’t that make as big a headline?

[Steve Zodiak]

No I’m not interested in stats. My point is that we are constantly told how many are infected, but not how many of those have recovered. In my opinion that’s also important for the public to know. Or doesn’t that make as big a headline?

The media are not interested in how many recover. Good news does not sell newspapers or attract views. That's why the headlines are all doom and gloom. Brexit is done, the general election is over, and the floods are last weeks news. Once this virus dies out, the media will be desperate for a disaster of some kind. An asteroid threatening to destroy mankind would be brilliant for them.

[dogfound]

No I’m not interested in stats. My point is that we are constantly told how many are infected, but not how many of those have recovered. In my opinion that’s also important for the public to know. Or doesn’t that make as big a headline?

there are 67 thousand totally recovered worldwide..
54 thousand active cases. of which 48k are described as mild.
7 thousand have died.
and much like many viruses the vast majority of those who died are over 70 years old and were already suffering other medical conditions.

[dogfound]

Just a point, I don't know if I've missed any reports, but the running daily total of confirmed cases (& unfortunately deaths) is issued daily. It is now over 2 weeks since the first confirmed case in GB. What I haven't seen is any running total of any of these confirmed cases where people have recovered. Do any of you know if there has been yet, and if so, are they taken off the running total?

Put worldometers coronavirus into google. Great for the stats if that interests you. I don't think we list many clear of the illness and we don't given any figures for those critically ill. That's one of the alarming things on Italy. Despite the numbers who die the figures given for the numbers critically ill are rising faster day on day.

correct,we don't see many lists.. but here is one..
this time last year 195 had died of the flu in the UK and another two thousand one hundred had been treated in intensive care units. god knows how many actually caught it without getting that ill.

[Bluebina]

I don't think the media help much. One British person has died from this so far. On average, 12,000 people die of seasonal flu in the UK each year, and records say this has been as much as 20,000 in the past. I suppose ordinary flu which kills thousands each years does not sell newspapers or attract advertisers. I remember the swine flu epidemic which had similar coverage by the media. I think eventually that was responsible for around 400 deaths. Hopefully this one won't be any worse. Maybe the youngsters will get some extra school holidays out of it.

Hmmm are you sure about that ?

[Bluebina]

I don't think the media help much. One British person has died from this so far. On average, 12,000 people die of seasonal flu in the UK each year, and records say this has been as much as 20,000 in the past. I suppose ordinary flu which kills thousands each years does not sell newspapers or attract advertisers. I remember the swine flu epidemic which had similar coverage by the media. I think eventually that was responsible for around 400 deaths. Hopefully this one won't be any worse. Maybe the youngsters will get some extra school holidays out of it.

Not demeaning the seriousness of this virus and the effects on many people but you are so right that seasonal flu results in thousands of related deaths each year

Coronavirus has taken relatively few to date and is not considered as serious as previous 'new' outbreaks

This year's current media focus; in the New Year it was Harry and Meghan and others will surely follow as the days (and media need for stories to run with) roll on...

What a difference a few weeks makes !!!

[Bluebina]

I don't think the media help much. One British person has died from this so far. On average, 12,000 people die of seasonal flu in the UK each year, and records say this has been as much as 20,000 in the past. I suppose ordinary flu which kills thousands each years does not sell newspapers or attract advertisers. I remember the swine flu epidemic which had similar coverage by the media. I think eventually that was responsible for around 400 deaths. Hopefully this one won't be any worse. Maybe the youngsters will get some extra school holidays out of it.

seems to be most peoples take on it mate.. the numbers do not correspond with the media coverage..
so they are either over reacting or hiding the truth ?

Well let's hope it's the former eh?

I have a friend who is from Hong Kong originally and returned from a visit back from Hong Kong about 3 weeks ago and she said the people out their adament it's a lot worse in China than is being reported which would surprise no one.

correct

[Profesora]

No I’m not interested in stats. My point is that we are constantly told how many are infected, but not how many of those have recovered. In my opinion that’s also important for the public to know. Or doesn’t that make as big a headline?

there are 67 thousand totally recovered worldwide..
54 thousand active cases. of which 48k are described as mild.
7 thousand have died.
and much like many viruses the vast majority of those who died are over 70 years old and were already suffering other medical conditions.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

This is a good website, updates live.

At time of writing (or indeed first time of writing before it was deleted) 79,881 have recovered and 7,164 have died. 8% of the outcomes have been death thus far. No doubt that figure is higher than reality due to the number of unreported cases, but in terms of reported cases - this is the rate.

Also, people are comparing this to other diseases that infect people gradually, meaning the health system can cope. With this virus, its going to affect a lot of people very quickly meaning the death rate is going to increase to a huge number because people simply won't be able to be treated. This isn't the case for the other illnesses. Say its 3% (true figure) with a working healthy system, it may well very quickly become 12% without one. This is what the concern is.

Another concern of mine is that I don't entirely trust the figures coming out of China. If you discount China the figures are frightening for the rest of the world in terms of deaths to recoveries.

11,200 recovered and 3,900 deaths - that's almost 35% of reported outcomes outside of China lead to death.

People harping on about media making this up don't have a clue and are hoping that if they say it enough then it may all just go away. This is serious and will affect our lives for a long time. That's the reality.

[Bluebina]

No I’m not interested in stats. My point is that we are constantly told how many are infected, but not how many of those have recovered. In my opinion that’s also important for the public to know. Or doesn’t that make as big a headline?

there are 67 thousand totally recovered worldwide..
54 thousand active cases. of which 48k are described as mild.
7 thousand have died.
and much like many viruses the vast majority of those who died are over 70 years old and were already suffering other medical conditions.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

This is a good website, updates live.

At time of writing (or indeed first time of writing before it was deleted) 79,881 have recovered and 7,164 have died. 8% of the outcomes have been death thus far. No doubt that figure is higher than reality due to the number of unreported cases, but in terms of reported cases - this is the rate.

Also, people are comparing this to other diseases that infect people gradually, meaning the health system can cope. With this virus, its going to affect a lot of people very quickly meaning the death rate is going to increase to a huge number because people simply won't be able to be treated. This isn't the case for the other illnesses. Say its 3% (true figure) with a working healthy system, it may well very quickly become 12% without one. This is what the concern is.

Another concern of mine is that I don't entirely trust the figures coming out of China. If you discount China the figures are frightening for the rest of the world in terms of deaths to recoveries.

11,200 recovered and 3,900 deaths - that's almost 35% of reported outcomes outside of China lead to death.

People harping on about media making this up don't have a clue and are hoping that if they say it enough then it may all just go away. This is serious and will affect our lives for a long time. That's the reality.

Agreed people way underestimate Corona Virus, there is a lot to come out yet, but it's clear it's mostly the old or people that already have serious conditions that will die due to it.

The government are clearly trying to protect them, which seems very sensible, the really old and weak should remain isolated until the vaccine is ready.

[Bluebina]

No I’m not interested in stats. My point is that we are constantly told how many are infected, but not how many of those have recovered. In my opinion that’s also important for the public to know. Or doesn’t that make as big a headline?

there are 67 thousand totally recovered worldwide..
54 thousand active cases. of which 48k are described as mild.
7 thousand have died.
and much like many viruses the vast majority of those who died are over 70 years old and were already suffering other medical conditions.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

This is a good website, updates live.

At time of writing (or indeed first time of writing before it was deleted) 79,881 have recovered and 7,164 have died. 8% of the outcomes have been death thus far. No doubt that figure is higher than reality due to the number of unreported cases, but in terms of reported cases - this is the rate.

Also, people are comparing this to other diseases that infect people gradually, meaning the health system can cope. With this virus, its going to affect a lot of people very quickly meaning the death rate is going to increase to a huge number because people simply won't be able to be treated. This isn't the case for the other illnesses. Say its 3% (true figure) with a working healthy system, it may well very quickly become 12% without one. This is what the concern is.

Another concern of mine is that I don't entirely trust the figures coming out of China. If you discount China the figures are frightening for the rest of the world in terms of deaths to recoveries.

11,200 recovered and 3,900 deaths - that's almost 35% of reported outcomes outside of China lead to death.

People harping on about media making this up don't have a clue and are hoping that if they say it enough then it may all just go away. This is serious and will affect our lives for a long time. That's the reality.

Agreed people way underestimate Corona Virus, there is a lot to come out yet, but it's clear it's mostly the old or people that already have serious conditions that will die due to it.

The government are clearly trying to protect them, which seems very sensible, the really old and weak should remain isolated until the vaccine is ready.

My views are pretty much the same, I feel the main mistake we have made is in the care homes, it was obvious early on where the dangers were, and protecting the elderly and vulnerable in care homes should have been the first priority!

[TopCat CCFC]

Number of coronavirus cases in Welsh prisons confirmed

There have been 119 confirmed cases of Covid-19 involving staff and prisoners at Wales' six jails, according to the Justice Minister Lucy Frazer.

She was responding to a request from Plaid Cymru's Liz Saville Roberts.

A total of 74 prisoners and 45 staff have been infected, with the breakdown as follows:

HMP Cardiff - 30

HMP Usk - 28

HMP Berwyn - 22

HMP Swansea - 20

HMP Parc - 13

HMP Prescoed - 6