Updated: ‘ Jacks quite a shock ‘

As much as I 'dislike' them it's sad news for Welsh Football and the National Team, a lot of decent talent has come through their ranks.

Fully appreciate I will be in a small minority mind haba

Definitely in the minority

They don't bother me that much mate, as much as I would always like us to finish above them.

Iv always hated Bristol City and detest Newport County.

I'm with you on all you say above

It certainly is sad for Welsh football and the National Team and (somewhat embarrassingly for us on times) some very good players have come through their Academy

Surely it should be for our club to first match and then exceed them in every way to re-adjust the natural balance in Wales rather than wish their demise?

I've stated previously that it's not Swansea the football club I dislike; it's mainly the sycophantic fans and particularly the ones who come on here when the sun was shining on their part of the world only to disappear (with the one obvious twisted, needy and inane exception) when their going got tough

For me, the Bristol City (rather than Rovers) rivalry has always been the bigger; but that's not to say I don't enjoy the 'Jack' encounters and the ones in the Premier League (our first time around) were ones for Wales to be proud of

Classic asset stripping by the investors Thou I am no fan of the swans it is some what sad for football in general that this is happening The future does not look bright for the swans

Yes fantastic news isn't it, hopefully they will go under in a few years

Other than the “in a few years” bit, I’m with you

I dont believe anything about the Jacks , unless roathie explains everything in great detail 15 times .
Having said that , it must be true.
Because there's no sign of #welshcasual !

He’s banned mate.

Been back since with another name but I’m sure he’s lurking not far away shaking and frothing at the mouth ready to post.

I dont believe anything about the Jacks , unless roathie explains everything in great detail 15 times .
Having said that , it must be true.
Because there's no sign of #welshcasual !

He’s banned mate.

Been back since with another name but I’m sure he’s lurking not far away shaking and frothing at the mouth ready to post.

You can imagine him writing out his notes now about how this can only be a good thing for them.

Mad Swansea have sold their academy ground and have dropped from a category 1 to a 3 at the end of season

Jacks parachute drops from circa £33m this season to circa £15m next season.

Let’s hope we do the reverse. They will be in meltdown over this

F*ck them !!!

Remember the collection buckets when they were going into administration, should have left them to rot.

Agreed.

The Jack's have pulled out of Merthyr

The jacks are questioning the validity of that twitter account as nothings come out from club or press.

The jacks are questioning the validity of that twitter account as nothings come out from club or press.

Their club is holding back I heard and were waiting fir the right time.

I got given it before that account put it out by a Jack scout who use to be on Cardiff’s books.

Wonder if we could poach their Academy staff, they done a good job there and could bring that experience to us.

The jacks are questioning the validity of that twitter account as nothings come out from club or press.

Their club is holding back I heard and were waiting fir the right time.

I got given it before that account put it out by a Jack scout who use to be on Cardiff’s books.

Not suprised if they are holding it back. Fans will finally get the message the yanks arent here to spend money.

All that work being undone.

The jacks are questioning the validity of that twitter account as nothings come out from club or press.

Their club is holding back I heard and were waiting fir the right time.

I got given it before that account put it out by a Jack scout who use to be on Cardiff’s books.

Not suprised if they are holding it back. Fans will finally get the message the yanks arent here to spend money.

All that work being undone.

Old news.

Trevor Birch gives key update on the future of Swansea City's academy amid reports of possible sale
The Swans' chairman has vowed to update supporters on what could happen with the club's academy, whether it's "good or not so good" news


By Ian Mitchelmore

30 DEC 2019

SPORT


Trevor Birch has revealed an announcement on the future of Swansea City's academy will be made after the January transfer window.

Reports in the national media recently claimed that the club were considering selling their Landore facility as they continue to cut costs following last year's relegation from the Premier League.


The success of Swansea's academy has been well documented over the last 18 months, with Graham Potter using no fewer than nine players from the youth set-up last season.

Steve Cooper has gone on to use five of those in his debut campaign at SA1 while also giving a further five their first team bows.

But with parachute payments set to drop once again in the summer, Swansea must continue to reduce costs.

The jacks are questioning the validity of that twitter account as nothings come out from club or press.

Their club is holding back I heard and were waiting fir the right time.

I got given it before that account put it out by a Jack scout who use to be on Cardiff’s books.

Not suprised if they are holding it back. Fans will finally get the message the yanks arent here to spend money.

All that work being undone.

Old news.

Trevor Birch gives key update on the future of Swansea City's academy amid reports of possible sale
The Swans' chairman has vowed to update supporters on what could happen with the club's academy, whether it's "good or not so good" news


By Ian Mitchelmore

30 DEC 2019

SPORT


Trevor Birch has revealed an announcement on the future of Swansea City's academy will be made after the January transfer window.

Reports in the national media recently claimed that the club were considering selling their Landore facility as they continue to cut costs following last year's relegation from the Premier League.


The success of Swansea's academy has been well documented over the last 18 months, with Graham Potter using no fewer than nine players from the youth set-up last season.

Steve Cooper has gone on to use five of those in his debut campaign at SA1 while also giving a further five their first team bows.

But with parachute payments set to drop once again in the summer, Swansea must continue to reduce costs.

Well not really old news?

as the transfer market for Jan has not finished yet and they then will announce it.

The jacks are questioning the validity of that twitter account as nothings come out from club or press.

Their club is holding back I heard and were waiting fir the right time.

I got given it before that account put it out by a Jack scout who use to be on Cardiff’s books.

Not suprised if they are holding it back. Fans will finally get the message the yanks arent here to spend money.

All that work being undone.

Old news.

Trevor Birch gives key update on the future of Swansea City's academy amid reports of possible sale
The Swans' chairman has vowed to update supporters on what could happen with the club's academy, whether it's "good or not so good" news


By Ian Mitchelmore

30 DEC 2019

SPORT


Trevor Birch has revealed an announcement on the future of Swansea City's academy will be made after the January transfer window.

Reports in the national media recently claimed that the club were considering selling their Landore facility as they continue to cut costs following last year's relegation from the Premier League.


The success of Swansea's academy has been well documented over the last 18 months, with Graham Potter using no fewer than nine players from the youth set-up last season.

Steve Cooper has gone on to use five of those in his debut campaign at SA1 while also giving a further five their first team bows.

But with parachute payments set to drop once again in the summer, Swansea must continue to reduce costs.

Well not really old news?

as the transfer market for Jan has not finished yet and they then will announce it.

Yes but what ever decesion is made it won't come as a shock . there's plenty of rumours going around about Landore being sold for a business to take over ( its in a commercial area so very unlikely houses would be built there) and fairwood is half owned by the Unviversity so the Club could sell their half , if the University wanted to buy it , if they didn't then who to ?its a massive complex I can't imagine a decesion would be made before knowing whether the big earners are sold in January or if theres a chance of promotion . Everyone knows the yanks aren't in the Club to invest and thats seems to have been accepted but who knows eh ?

The jacks are questioning the validity of that twitter account as nothings come out from club or press.

Their club is holding back I heard and were waiting fir the right time.

I got given it before that account put it out by a Jack scout who use to be on Cardiff’s books.

Not suprised if they are holding it back. Fans will finally get the message the yanks arent here to spend money.

All that work being undone.

Old news.

Trevor Birch gives key update on the future of Swansea City's academy amid reports of possible sale
The Swans' chairman has vowed to update supporters on what could happen with the club's academy, whether it's "good or not so good" news


By Ian Mitchelmore

30 DEC 2019

SPORT


Trevor Birch has revealed an announcement on the future of Swansea City's academy will be made after the January transfer window.

Reports in the national media recently claimed that the club were considering selling their Landore facility as they continue to cut costs following last year's relegation from the Premier League.


The success of Swansea's academy has been well documented over the last 18 months, with Graham Potter using no fewer than nine players from the youth set-up last season.

Steve Cooper has gone on to use five of those in his debut campaign at SA1 while also giving a further five their first team bows.

But with parachute payments set to drop once again in the summer, Swansea must continue to reduce costs.

Well not really old news?

as the transfer market for Jan has not finished yet and they then will announce it.

Yes but what ever decesion is made it won't come as a shock . there's plenty of rumours going around about Landore being sold for a business to take over ( its in a commercial area so very unlikely houses would be built there) and fairwood is half owned by the Unviversity so the Club could sell their half , if the University wanted to buy it , if they didn't then who to ?its a massive complex I can't imagine a decesion would be made before knowing whether the big earners are sold in January or if theres a chance of promotion . Everyone knows the yanks aren't in the Club to invest and thats seems to have been accepted but who knows eh ?

Well it was a shock to me and many other Cardiff fans, as I thought from the outside they were well run.

I dont believe anything about the Jacks , unless roathie explains everything in great detail 15 times .
Having said that , it must be true.
Because there's no sign of #welshcasual !

He already did tell you about it:-

The parachute money you've had, the £35M for James and no socks Mcburnie. Read planet swamp as they are all asking the question. Its comedy gold I tell you

It doesn't matter who is asking it really, the answer remains the same.

Parachute payments are there to cover a drop in revenue upon relegation. We went from income around the 105m mark to about 18m. Parachute payments would bump that up to around 60m leaving a 45m per year black hole.

James and McBurnie were sold but sales are amortised, meaning thy payments are spread across a period of time, meaning you dont get 35m up front. So far we have probably had a third of both fees - 12m lets say. Leaving a 33m black hole. This was reduced further by getting rid of salaries etc for the likes of Fer, J Ayew, Narsingh, Bony and Olsson which all in all (including some others) we expected trimmed another 24m of the salary bill. We also added about 1m worth of players in transfer fees, signing on fees and agents fees leaving a 10m loss roughly for the year. Almost certainly some form of loss and no profit at all.

Parachute payments are reduced by around 8m in the second season, yet we carry the costs over from the season before. Its likely we will need to sell another 1 or 2 before being able to break even (that's with the parachute payments).

Without the parachute payments we will need to restructure further, making cuts to the academy status etc to enable us to live self sufficiently.

Anyone who thinks there is any money to take is living in cloud cuckoo land. To be blunt. Hope that answers your question.

Well it was a shock to me and many other Cardiff fans, as I thought from the outside they were well run.

You were right to post it, certainly newsworthy - but not something that wasn't known if you know what I mean.

This happening doesn't suggest the club isn't well run, quite the opposite. Decisions like these are hard but they have to be made for the club to be self sufficient outside the PL, not taking this decision would be the indication of not being well run. Category 1 status academies are Premier League luxuries.

The academy isn't being sold, just downgraded as expected. Their share of the land has been sold to the uni and then leased back to the club.

Well it was a shock to me and many other Cardiff fans, as I thought from the outside they were well run.

You were right to post it, certainly newsworthy - but not something that wasn't known if you know what I mean.

This happening doesn't suggest the club isn't well run, quite the opposite. Decisions like these are hard but they have to be made for the club to be self sufficient outside the PL, not taking this decision would be the indication of not being well run. Category 1 status academies are Premier League luxuries.

The academy isn't being sold, just downgraded as expected. Their share of the land has been sold to the uni and then leased back to the club.

Cheers

Classic asset stripping by the investors Thou I am no fan of the swans it is some what sad for football in general that this is happening The future does not look bright for the swans

It is not asset stripping, it is cost cutting.

Do you really think the club can keep its Premier League overheads in the Championship? It would be sad for football should this decision not have been made, we have seen enough clubs struggle financially and live beyond their means over the years.

It is the same with Cardiff, there is a reason the club are not looking to spend money in January, there is very little money after relegation.

Well it was a shock to me and many other Cardiff fans, as I thought from the outside they were well run.

You were right to post it, certainly newsworthy - but not something that wasn't known if you know what I mean.

This happening doesn't suggest the club isn't well run, quite the opposite. Decisions like these are hard but they have to be made for the club to be self sufficient outside the PL, not taking this decision would be the indication of not being well run. Category 1 status academies are Premier League luxuries.

The academy isn't being sold, just downgraded as expected. Their share of the land has been sold to the uni and then leased back to the club.

And he’s back.....

And he’s back.....

Hi goats, this academy downgrade was predicted at the back end of last year. There was no other course of action.

Classic asset stripping by the investors Thou I am no fan of the swans it is some what sad for football in general that this is happening The future does not look bright for the swans

It is not asset stripping, it is cost cutting.

Do you really think the club can keep its Premier League overheads in the Championship? It would be sad for football should this decision not have been made, we have seen enough clubs struggle financially and live beyond their means over the years.

It is the same with Cardiff, there is a reason the club are not looking to spend money in January, there is very little money after relegation.

Roathie just can't stay away, You're the living embodiment of cringe.

Wasn't a Swansea fan on here a few weeks ago stating how much of a model club they are, because they invested in their academy rather than their stadium, as stadiums are all but worthless.

Well now they have no academy and no stadium. Ouch.

Wasn't a Swansea fan on here a few weeks ago stating how much of a model club they are, because they invested in their academy rather than their stadium, as stadiums are all but worthless.

Well now they have no academy and no stadium. Ouch.

It's the guy above called badgeofhonor, he was WelshCasual before and has had a shit load of accounts just to post on here.
It's really sad.

Wasn't a Swansea fan on here a few weeks ago stating how much of a model club they are, because they invested in their academy rather than their stadium, as stadiums are all but worthless.

Well now they have no academy and no stadium. Ouch.

No, ''how much of a model club they are'' is something you have added.

What was said was it was far more important spending money on an academy than buying a stadium we already had a 100 year lease on. That remains correct.

Category 1 status allowed us to bring in the likes of McBurnie, Dan James, Cian Harris and Ben Cabango. Not to mention develop the likes of Ben Davies and Conor Roberts.

I don't know what you mean by Swansea have ''no academy'' now? The academy is staying, it is being downgraded from category 1 - something not many clubs outside the Premier League can afford.

Wasn't a Swansea fan on here a few weeks ago stating how much of a model club they are, because they invested in their academy rather than their stadium, as stadiums are all but worthless.

Well now they have no academy and no stadium. Ouch.

No, ''how much of a model club they are'' is something you have added.

What was said was it was far more important spending money on an academy than buying a stadium we already had a 100 year lease on. That remains correct.

Category 1 status allowed us to bring in the likes of McBurnie, Dan James, Cian Harris and Ben Cabango. Not to mention develop the likes of Ben Davies and Conor Roberts.

I don't know what you mean by Swansea have ''no academy'' now? The academy is staying, it is being downgraded from category 1 - something not many clubs outside the Premier League can afford.

Bore off Roathy No one falls for your shite anymore, you know it's bad news we know it's fantastic news, your golden goose has just been shot

Wasn't a Swansea fan on here a few weeks ago stating how much of a model club they are, because they invested in their academy rather than their stadium, as stadiums are all but worthless.

Well now they have no academy and no stadium. Ouch.

I've not read anywhere that the Club have no academy nor a stadium to play in , any links ?

Bore off Roathy No one falls for your shite anymore, you know it's bad news we know it's fantastic news, your golden goose has just been shot

What do you mean ''it's bad news''?

It's part and parcel of relegation, it isn't really ''news'' as such. Just like Ayew will be sold off in the summer, it wont be ''bad news'', just one of a number of things that have to happen upon relegation - the academy downgrade was one such thing... hence why I have said it several times on here over the last 6 months or so. I am amazed it was kep category 1 this long to be honest.

Bore off Roathy No one falls for your shite anymore, you know it's bad news we know it's fantastic news, your golden goose has just been shot

What do you mean ''it's bad news''?

It's part and parcel of relegation, it isn't really ''news'' as such. Just like Ayew will be sold off in the summer, it wont be ''bad news'', just one of a number of things that have to happen upon relegation - the academy downgrade was one such thing... hence why I have said it several times on here over the last 6 months or so. I am amazed it was kep category 1 this long to be honest.

Bore off to your own site Roathy try telling them it's not an issue there are 5 pages saying what a disaster it is and how the Yanks never put any money in

it could be a category 3, and still produce more and better than we are producing. they have got kids from all over south wales and developing them, and all we got are a bunch of kids that NW came out and said werent good enough, i mean we got the likes of Coxe and Brown, who are over 20. your a youth player IMO when your 18, after 18, you should be making first team appearances and then at 20/21 you should be a regular to help your development,