MY VIEW: TERRIBLE DEFENDING ONCE AGAIN BY CARDIFF / BUT THIS

Don’t really like the term first team players as that implies there are only 11 main players at the club.

Every single one of them who started (bar Coxe) would he expected to perform to as high a standard as the team who played on Sunday. So yes in that case scraping a 4-3 win against the team 21st in League 2 is a shocking performance.

THANK YOU

Ok answer why did Bristol lose and all the other teams who lost to lower league opponents? Now they played their alternative 11 same as city? Can you see the common denominator?

Something fishy is going on with this board.

Why has my post been edited with Annis' comments added on?
Is there a glitch or is someone editing peoples comments?

Something fishy is going on with this board.

Why has my post been edited with Annis' comments added on?
Is there a glitch or is someone editing peoples comments?

I have added my comments, not touched yours, yours are as you posted


My Comments I added







FOREVER BLUE:



Ok fantastic football by players who never have been first team players for us this season or over the last year or so

And are not in Harris plans to be main players Smithies

You lot win, these names have not been main players for us

I give up


Alex Smithies

Sol Bamba
Aden Flint
Jazz Richards
Will Vaulks
Joe Ralls
Gavin Whyte
Josh Murphy
Callum Paterson
Danny Ward

Don’t really like the term first team players as that implies there are only 11 main players at the club.

Every single one of them who started (bar Coxe) would he expected to perform to as high a standard as the team who played on Sunday. So yes in that case scraping a 4-3 win against the team 21st in League 2 is a shocking performance.

THANK YOU

Ok answer why did Bristol lose and all the other teams who lost to lower league opponents? Now they played their alternative 11 same as city? Can you see the common denominator?

Bristol played their strongest team and lost. They’re in complete disarray which is a completely other story. Aside from that there were no real upsets

I WILL LEAVE IT THERE & WILL MONITOR THESE PLAYERS


& DONT FORGET HOW MUCH HARRIS RATES JAZZ




FOREVER BLUE:



Ok fantastic football by players who never have been first team players for us this season or over the last year or so

And are not in Harris plans to be main players Smithies

You lot win, these names have not been main players for us

I give up


Alex Smithies

Sol Bamba
Aden Flint
Jazz Richards
Will Vaulks
Joe Ralls
Gavin Whyte
Josh Murphy
Callum Paterson
Danny Ward

Carlisle, 21st in League Two, had been the lowest-ranked team left in the tournament but they could not find a fourth goal and Cardiff will now play at Reading on Saturday, 25 January.

It means Northampton Town, who face Derby at home in the fourth round, pick up an extra £250,000 for being the last remaining League Two side left in the FA Cup.

Shouldn't be conceding 5 goals against Carlisle whatever team we put out.
I never thought Harris was a sensible appointment and that opinion hasn't changed.

Annis.

You seem to have a very low opinion of Neil Harris but had a high one of Neil Warnock.

Of the team that defended badly this evening, how many were signed by Warnock and how many by Harris? An entirely different back four was selected tonight from that which defended well against Swansea, assumedly to give them a chance to see if they could prove themselves worthy of being first choice selections.They failed ,which will help Harris in his choices going forward.

Until Neil Harris has at least two transfer windows to reshape the squad he inherited from Neil Warnock it is really difficult to judge his talents. Neil Warnock was good in inspiring “ journeymen” footballers to perform to the best of their abilities but was pretty useless in getting the best out of those that cost relatively big fees ( Murphy,Reid, Madine,Smithies,Cunningham). He also did some extremely dodgy transfer deals with the likes of Bacuna and two of the sons of Willie McKay which seemed to be of far greater financial benefit to his family and friends than to Cardiff City FC.So the promotion he got the club was great but his lack of ability at the higher level, some of the transfer dealings referred to above and the damage and evidence that is likely to come out from the various reports on the Emiliano Sala tragedy due out over the next few months is likely to cost the club dear reputationally and financially.

People need to stop being fan boys and sticking up for the team when they play terrible admit it.

That was a team full of first team players no matter how anybody try’s to twist it.

That’s not the U23 squad that’s the first team squad.

And it’s not going to change because the people in charge of running the club can not make any decent footballing decisions between them.

Five managers they’ve appointed and only one has been any good.

75% of the transfers they make are terrible. When was the last time we signed a young exciting promising player like when we signed Chopra the first time it’s always millions on donkeys like Flint and Madine.

Spot on. More than 75% mind. We lucky if we get one in 5 right

Annis.

You seem to have a very low opinion of Neil Harris but had a high one of Neil Warnock.

Of the team that defended badly this evening, how many were signed by Warnock and how many by Harris? An entirely different back four was selected tonight from that which defended well against Swansea, assumedly to give them a chance to see if they could prove themselves worthy of being first choice selections.They failed ,which will help Harris in his choices going forward.

Until Neil Harris has at least two transfer windows to reshape the squad he inherited from Neil Warnock it is really difficult to judge his talents. Neil Warnock was good in inspiring “ journeymen” footballers to perform to the best of their abilities but was pretty useless in getting the best out of those that cost relatively big fees ( Murphy,Reid, Madine,Smithies,Cunningham). He also did some extremely dodgy transfer deals with the likes of Bacuna and two of the sons of Willie McKay which seemed to be of far greater financial benefit to his family and friends than to Cardiff City FC.So the promotion he got the club was great but his lack of ability at the higher level, some of the transfer dealings referred to above and the damage and evidence that is likely to come out from the various reports on the Emiliano Sala tragedy due out over the next few months is likely to cost the club dear reputationally and financially.

Agree

Annis.

You seem to have a very low opinion of Neil Harris but had a high one of Neil Warnock.

Of the team that defended badly this evening, how many were signed by Warnock and how many by Harris? An entirely different back four was selected tonight from that which defended well against Swansea, assumedly to give them a chance to see if they could prove themselves worthy of being first choice selections.They failed ,which will help Harris in his choices going forward.

Until Neil Harris has at least two transfer windows to reshape the squad he inherited from Neil Warnock it is really difficult to judge his talents. Neil Warnock was good in inspiring “ journeymen” footballers to perform to the best of their abilities but was pretty useless in getting the best out of those that cost relatively big fees ( Murphy,Reid, Madine,Smithies,Cunningham). He also did some extremely dodgy transfer deals with the likes of Bacuna and two of the sons of Willie McKay which seemed to be of far greater financial benefit to his family and friends than to Cardiff City FC.So the promotion he got the club was great but his lack of ability at the higher level, some of the transfer dealings referred to above and the damage and evidence that is likely to come out from the various reports on the Emiliano Sala tragedy due out over the next few months is likely to cost the club dear reputationally and financially.

With you all the way, Warnock 3 years at our club, 1 very good year, followed by 2 very poor years. Now all this criticism of Harris, he wasn’t my choice, but he’s lost twice, is still finding his way, but as you rightly said is having to manage the very players that Warnock signed that couldn’t save their gaffers job. Great post mate

Annis.

You seem to have a very low opinion of Neil Harris but had a high one of Neil Warnock.

Of the team that defended badly this evening, how many were signed by Warnock and how many by Harris? An entirely different back four was selected tonight from that which defended well against Swansea, assumedly to give them a chance to see if they could prove themselves worthy of being first choice selections.They failed ,which will help Harris in his choices going forward.

Until Neil Harris has at least two transfer windows to reshape the squad he inherited from Neil Warnock it is really difficult to judge his talents. Neil Warnock was good in inspiring “ journeymen” footballers to perform to the best of their abilities but was pretty useless in getting the best out of those that cost relatively big fees ( Murphy,Reid, Madine,Smithies,Cunningham). He also did some extremely dodgy transfer deals with the likes of Bacuna and two of the sons of Willie McKay which seemed to be of far greater financial benefit to his family and friends than to Cardiff City FC.So the promotion he got the club was great but his lack of ability at the higher level, some of the transfer dealings referred to above and the damage and evidence that is likely to come out from the various reports on the Emiliano Sala tragedy due out over the next few months is likely to cost the club dear reputationally and financially.

Keith,

First am I not allowed my opinions ?

2nd I believe and feel NEIL HARRIS IS NOT THE RIGHT MANAGER FOR CARDIFF CITY , am I not allowed to say that?

3rd Harris is not a proven Championship manager, compared to NEIL Warnock and that’s a fact.


4th Yes I rate highly what NEIL WARNOCK has done in the past for other clubs and for us

No one was complaining when Warnock kept us up, promoted us and nearly kept us up

5th Keith. Has it not been quite clearly stated time & time again after Ole , Cardiff City has a transfer committee?

6th Keith. Does the Transfer committee not consist of Tan, Dalman, Choo & who ever the manager is?

7th Keith. What was the transfer committee set up for?

8th Keith . Who has the final say on all transfers at CCFC?


9th Keith. Have I ever stated Warnock was a good manager at a higher level/ Prem?
In fact I have said he was not.

10th Keith. Who is in charge of Cardiff City’s finances?




Keith,

Please can you answer all the above questions

Regards Annis

Carlisle boss Chris Beech: "I'm pleased with the efforts the players put in. They were honest and put in some hard work. I told them that's what I'm looking for.

"I felt we played the conditions better and we have scored five goals in two games against a side that was in the Premier League not so long ago.

"Maybe we should play Cardiff every week if we can get performances like that."

Now, now children. Surely only one thing really matters. Despite a poor(ish) performance, we are through . Now for revenge in a double header against Reading, and don't forget we still owe them one for that playoff double disaster when they beat us in the semi and threw the final against a JB X!

A win is a win in poor conditions but you can’t get away from the fact that they all bar Coxe have played at championship level and would be considered championship standard players by most people ....the other fact is we simply cannot defend this season....we have conceded so many soft goals as a team it’s embarrassing.
Warnock couldn’t sort it out and not has Harris yet.
Not many supporters from either side would have seen Carlisle scoring 3 times tonight...
But we move on to the next round, so its job done at the end of the day I guess

Annis.

You seem to have a very low opinion of Neil Harris but had a high one of Neil Warnock.

Of the team that defended badly this evening, how many were signed by Warnock and how many by Harris? An entirely different back four was selected tonight from that which defended well against Swansea, assumedly to give them a chance to see if they could prove themselves worthy of being first choice selections.They failed ,which will help Harris in his choices going forward.

Until Neil Harris has at least two transfer windows to reshape the squad he inherited from Neil Warnock it is really difficult to judge his talents. Neil Warnock was good in inspiring “ journeymen” footballers to perform to the best of their abilities but was pretty useless in getting the best out of those that cost relatively big fees ( Murphy,Reid, Madine,Smithies,Cunningham). He also did some extremely dodgy transfer deals with the likes of Bacuna and two of the sons of Willie McKay which seemed to be of far greater financial benefit to his family and friends than to Cardiff City FC.So the promotion he got the club was great but his lack of ability at the higher level, some of the transfer dealings referred to above and the damage and evidence that is likely to come out from the various reports on the Emiliano Sala tragedy due out over the next few months is likely to cost the club dear reputationally and financially.

lack of ability at a higher level….pretty much everyone thought we would finish bottom....many with a very low points total ... yes?

Annis.

You seem to have a very low opinion of Neil Harris but had a high one of Neil Warnock.

Of the team that defended badly this evening, how many were signed by Warnock and how many by Harris? An entirely different back four was selected tonight from that which defended well against Swansea, assumedly to give them a chance to see if they could prove themselves worthy of being first choice selections.They failed ,which will help Harris in his choices going forward.

Until Neil Harris has at least two transfer windows to reshape the squad he inherited from Neil Warnock it is really difficult to judge his talents. Neil Warnock was good in inspiring “ journeymen” footballers to perform to the best of their abilities but was pretty useless in getting the best out of those that cost relatively big fees ( Murphy,Reid, Madine,Smithies,Cunningham). He also did some extremely dodgy transfer deals with the likes of Bacuna and two of the sons of Willie McKay which seemed to be of far greater financial benefit to his family and friends than to Cardiff City FC.So the promotion he got the club was great but his lack of ability at the higher level, some of the transfer dealings referred to above and the damage and evidence that is likely to come out from the various reports on the Emiliano Sala tragedy due out over the next few months is likely to cost the club dear reputationally and financially.

Keith,

First am I not allowed my opinions ?

2nd I believe and feel NEIL HARRIS IS NOT THE RIGHT MANAGER FOR CARDIFF CITY , am I not allowed to say that?

3rd Harris is not a proven Championship manager, compared to NEIL Warnock and that’s a fact.


4th Yes I rate highly what NEIL WARNOCK has done in the past for other clubs and for us

No one was complaining when Warnock kept us up, promoted us and nearly kept us up

5th Keith. Has it not been quite clearly stated time & time again after Ole , Cardiff City has a transfer committee?

6th Keith. Does the Transfer committee not consist of Tan, Dalman, Choo & who ever the manager is?

7th Keith. What was the transfer committee set up for?

8th Keith . Who has the final say on all transfers at CCFC?

Keith,

Please can you answer all the above questions

Regards Annis

Quite happy to answer all of those questions if you are then happy to directly answer a couple of mine

1.Yes of course you are entitled to your opinions, as is everyone else although you do of course have the advantage over everyone else by having your own messageboard to voice those opinions. You don’t stop anyone else posting their views but you are able to allow and control the large numbers of “stickies” posted by you.
2.As stated in 1 above your views on the abilities of Neil Harris are as equally valid ( but no more so) than anybody else’s whether they agree with you or not.
3.Neil Harris has a decent record as a Championship manager but has not been around as long as Neil Warnock so not yet possible to assess what the comparison of good and poor seasons at this level will be compared to NW over time.
4.I didn’t complain when NW got us promoted nor did I when Dave Jones did.Fans of otherclubs that got promoted under NW also didn’t complain but it is interesting that a number of them that I speak to regularly question his methods and dealings afterwards.
5.6. 7.8 Yes the club has a transfer committee comprised of the people you say, with some input from Steve Borley as well and the weakness of that committe has been a lack of sufficient football knowledge to control the manager better. The final say always is that of the owner Vincent Tan, to whom NW would go directly if he couldn’t get his own way with that committee.

Some questions for you.

Do you agree that NW has been involved in a number of dodgy transfer deals such as Bacuna and the two McKay brothers of benefit to him, his son and a friend who is a disgraced former football agent who NW knew was not allowed to be involved in football transfers rather than for the benefit of CCFC?
Are you worried that various reports due out this year on transactions and activities involving NW will show him and the club in a very bad light?

Annis.

You seem to have a very low opinion of Neil Harris but had a high one of Neil Warnock.

Of the team that defended badly this evening, how many were signed by Warnock and how many by Harris? An entirely different back four was selected tonight from that which defended well against Swansea, assumedly to give them a chance to see if they could prove themselves worthy of being first choice selections.They failed ,which will help Harris in his choices going forward.

Until Neil Harris has at least two transfer windows to reshape the squad he inherited from Neil Warnock it is really difficult to judge his talents. Neil Warnock was good in inspiring “ journeymen” footballers to perform to the best of their abilities but was pretty useless in getting the best out of those that cost relatively big fees ( Murphy,Reid, Madine,Smithies,Cunningham). He also did some extremely dodgy transfer deals with the likes of Bacuna and two of the sons of Willie McKay which seemed to be of far greater financial benefit to his family and friends than to Cardiff City FC.So the promotion he got the club was great but his lack of ability at the higher level, some of the transfer dealings referred to above and the damage and evidence that is likely to come out from the various reports on the Emiliano Sala tragedy due out over the next few months is likely to cost the club dear reputationally and financially.

Keith,

First am I not allowed my opinions ?

2nd I believe and feel NEIL HARRIS IS NOT THE RIGHT MANAGER FOR CARDIFF CITY , am I not allowed to say that?

3rd Harris is not a proven Championship manager, compared to NEIL Warnock and that’s a fact.


4th Yes I rate highly what NEIL WARNOCK has done in the past for other clubs and for us

No one was complaining when Warnock kept us up, promoted us and nearly kept us up

5th Keith. Has it not been quite clearly stated time & time again after Ole , Cardiff City has a transfer committee?

6th Keith. Does the Transfer committee not consist of Tan, Dalman, Choo & who ever the manager is?

7th Keith. What was the transfer committee set up for?

8th Keith . Who has the final say on all transfers at CCFC?

Keith,

Please can you answer all the above questions

Regards Annis

Quite happy to answer all of those questions if you are then happy to directly answer a couple of mine

1.Yes of course you are entitled to your opinions, as is everyone else although you do of course have the advantage over everyone else by having your own messageboard to voice those opinions. You don’t stop anyone else posting their views but you are able to allow and control the large numbers of “stickies” posted by you.
2.As stated in 1 above your views on the abilities of Neil Harris are as equally valid ( but no more so) than anybody else’s whether they agree with you or not.
3.Neil Harris has a decent record as a Championship manager but has not been around as long as Neil Warnock so not yet possible to assess what the comparison of good and poor seasons at this level will be compared to NW over time.
4.I didn’t complain when NW got us promoted nor did I when Dave Jones did.Fans of otherclubs that got promoted under NW also didn’t complain but it is interesting that a number of them that I speak to regularly question his methods and dealings afterwards.
5.6. 7.8 Yes the club has a transfer committee comprised of the people you say, with some input from Steve Borley as well and the weakness of that committe has been a lack of sufficient football knowledge to control the manager better. The final say always is that of the owner Vincent Tan, to whom NW would go directly if he couldn’t get his own way with that committee.

Some questions for you.

Do you agree that NW has been involved in a number of dodgy transfer deals such as Bacuna and the two McKay brothers of benefit to him, his son and a friend who is a disgraced former football agent who NW knew was not allowed to be involved in football transfers rather than for the benefit of CCFC?
Are you worried that various reports due out this year on transactions and activities involving NW will show him and the club in a very bad light?

do you have evidence of any of this ?

Annis.

You seem to have a very low opinion of Neil Harris but had a high one of Neil Warnock.

Of the team that defended badly this evening, how many were signed by Warnock and how many by Harris? An entirely different back four was selected tonight from that which defended well against Swansea, assumedly to give them a chance to see if they could prove themselves worthy of being first choice selections.They failed ,which will help Harris in his choices going forward.

Until Neil Harris has at least two transfer windows to reshape the squad he inherited from Neil Warnock it is really difficult to judge his talents. Neil Warnock was good in inspiring “ journeymen” footballers to perform to the best of their abilities but was pretty useless in getting the best out of those that cost relatively big fees ( Murphy,Reid, Madine,Smithies,Cunningham). He also did some extremely dodgy transfer deals with the likes of Bacuna and two of the sons of Willie McKay which seemed to be of far greater financial benefit to his family and friends than to Cardiff City FC.So the promotion he got the club was great but his lack of ability at the higher level, some of the transfer dealings referred to above and the damage and evidence that is likely to come out from the various reports on the Emiliano Sala tragedy due out over the next few months is likely to cost the club dear reputationally and financially.

You can not honestly sit there and blame Warnock for transfers when Warnock was left to wheel and deal the promotion season it was all rosey in the garden.

But then we got promoted and our major major flaw showed it’s ugly face again. Cardiff City has not been able to spend any decent amount of money on signing players. You can’t blame it on the manager it’s the club as a whole.

Facts are we can’t buy players and we can’t recruit the right managers. There’s nobody at the club with any decent football knowledge.

Of all the managers available why Neil Harris. Why are we having Millwalls cast offs?

They are even above us in the league now.

Why aren’t we signing young hungry talented players like Swansea why are we looking STILL at strikers who can not score a goal. Is it because the transfer committee doesn’t even know these players exist.

We are the championship version of Man Utd we’ve got business men running a football club. Until there’s a football guy on the board then nothing will change and we will keep spunking millions of pounds up the wall.

Annis.

You seem to have a very low opinion of Neil Harris but had a high one of Neil Warnock.

Of the team that defended badly this evening, how many were signed by Warnock and how many by Harris? An entirely different back four was selected tonight from that which defended well against Swansea, assumedly to give them a chance to see if they could prove themselves worthy of being first choice selections.They failed ,which will help Harris in his choices going forward.

Until Neil Harris has at least two transfer windows to reshape the squad he inherited from Neil Warnock it is really difficult to judge his talents. Neil Warnock was good in inspiring “ journeymen” footballers to perform to the best of their abilities but was pretty useless in getting the best out of those that cost relatively big fees ( Murphy,Reid, Madine,Smithies,Cunningham). He also did some extremely dodgy transfer deals with the likes of Bacuna and two of the sons of Willie McKay which seemed to be of far greater financial benefit to his family and friends than to Cardiff City FC.So the promotion he got the club was great but his lack of ability at the higher level, some of the transfer dealings referred to above and the damage and evidence that is likely to come out from the various reports on the Emiliano Sala tragedy due out over the next few months is likely to cost the club dear reputationally and financially.

Keith,

First am I not allowed my opinions ?

2nd I believe and feel NEIL HARRIS IS NOT THE RIGHT MANAGER FOR CARDIFF CITY , am I not allowed to say that?

3rd Harris is not a proven Championship manager, compared to NEIL Warnock and that’s a fact.


4th Yes I rate highly what NEIL WARNOCK has done in the past for other clubs and for us

No one was complaining when Warnock kept us up, promoted us and nearly kept us up

5th Keith. Has it not been quite clearly stated time & time again after Ole , Cardiff City has a transfer committee?

6th Keith. Does the Transfer committee not consist of Tan, Dalman, Choo & who ever the manager is?

7th Keith. What was the transfer committee set up for?

8th Keith . Who has the final say on all transfers at CCFC?

Keith,

Please can you answer all the above questions

Regards Annis

Quite happy to answer all of those questions if you are then happy to directly answer a couple of mine

1.Yes of course you are entitled to your opinions, as is everyone else although you do of course have the advantage over everyone else by having your own messageboard to voice those opinions. You don’t stop anyone else posting their views but you are able to allow and control the large numbers of “stickies” posted by you.
2.As stated in 1 above your views on the abilities of Neil Harris are as equally valid ( but no more so) than anybody else’s whether they agree with you or not.
3.Neil Harris has a decent record as a Championship manager but has not been around as long as Neil Warnock so not yet possible to assess what the comparison of good and poor seasons at this level will be compared to NW over time.
4.I didn’t complain when NW got us promoted nor did I when Dave Jones did.Fans of otherclubs that got promoted under NW also didn’t complain but it is interesting that a number of them that I speak to regularly question his methods and dealings afterwards.
5.6. 7.8 Yes the club has a transfer committee comprised of the people you say, with some input from Steve Borley as well and the weakness of that committe has been a lack of sufficient football knowledge to control the manager better. The final say always is that of the owner Vincent Tan, to whom NW would go directly if he couldn’t get his own way with that committee.

Some questions for you.

Do you agree that NW has been involved in a number of dodgy transfer deals such as Bacuna and the two McKay brothers of benefit to him, his son and a friend who is a disgraced former football agent who NW knew was not allowed to be involved in football transfers rather than for the benefit of CCFC?
Are you worried that various reports due out this year on transactions and activities involving NW will show him and the club in a very bad light?

Keith,


I Never avoid answering anyone’s questions

As to the stickies if you watch I try and give a balance view by always letting both positive & negative opinions on thee

As to my own forum, anyone can start there own Never stopped anyone This forum has been going strong for nearly 12 years , so it must be doing something right

So the Committee as you’ve answered have the final say on transfers , with Tan at the head of it.


As to Warnock , I can’t accuse him of any wrong doings as I have NO evidence .
But I have a few suspicions and have done on many managers before him, it seems football is still full of dodgy dealings and has never stopped for 50 plus years and some how it continues.

As to the EMILIANO SALA deal from day one , I had big big suspicions about our clubs involvements , but was shot down on here, many times for suggesting it.


Last questions from me

Are you happy how our debt has still be so high after 10years? And who do you blame for the current debts?

Regards

Annis

Annis.

You seem to have a very low opinion of Neil Harris but had a high one of Neil Warnock.

Of the team that defended badly this evening, how many were signed by Warnock and how many by Harris? An entirely different back four was selected tonight from that which defended well against Swansea, assumedly to give them a chance to see if they could prove themselves worthy of being first choice selections.They failed ,which will help Harris in his choices going forward.

Until Neil Harris has at least two transfer windows to reshape the squad he inherited from Neil Warnock it is really difficult to judge his talents. Neil Warnock was good in inspiring “ journeymen” footballers to perform to the best of their abilities but was pretty useless in getting the best out of those that cost relatively big fees ( Murphy,Reid, Madine,Smithies,Cunningham). He also did some extremely dodgy transfer deals with the likes of Bacuna and two of the sons of Willie McKay which seemed to be of far greater financial benefit to his family and friends than to Cardiff City FC.So the promotion he got the club was great but his lack of ability at the higher level, some of the transfer dealings referred to above and the damage and evidence that is likely to come out from the various reports on the Emiliano Sala tragedy due out over the next few months is likely to cost the club dear reputationally and financially.

Keith,

First am I not allowed my opinions ?

2nd I believe and feel NEIL HARRIS IS NOT THE RIGHT MANAGER FOR CARDIFF CITY , am I not allowed to say that?

3rd Harris is not a proven Championship manager, compared to NEIL Warnock and that’s a fact.


4th Yes I rate highly what NEIL WARNOCK has done in the past for other clubs and for us

No one was complaining when Warnock kept us up, promoted us and nearly kept us up

5th Keith. Has it not been quite clearly stated time & time again after Ole , Cardiff City has a transfer committee?

6th Keith. Does the Transfer committee not consist of Tan, Dalman, Choo & who ever the manager is?

7th Keith. What was the transfer committee set up for?

8th Keith . Who has the final say on all transfers at CCFC?

Keith,

Please can you answer all the above questions

Regards Annis

Quite happy to answer all of those questions if you are then happy to directly answer a couple of mine

1.Yes of course you are entitled to your opinions, as is everyone else although you do of course have the advantage over everyone else by having your own messageboard to voice those opinions. You don’t stop anyone else posting their views but you are able to allow and control the large numbers of “stickies” posted by you.
2.As stated in 1 above your views on the abilities of Neil Harris are as equally valid ( but no more so) than anybody else’s whether they agree with you or not.
3.Neil Harris has a decent record as a Championship manager but has not been around as long as Neil Warnock so not yet possible to assess what the comparison of good and poor seasons at this level will be compared to NW over time.
4.I didn’t complain when NW got us promoted nor did I when Dave Jones did.Fans of otherclubs that got promoted under NW also didn’t complain but it is interesting that a number of them that I speak to regularly question his methods and dealings afterwards.
5.6. 7.8 Yes the club has a transfer committee comprised of the people you say, with some input from Steve Borley as well and the weakness of that committe has been a lack of sufficient football knowledge to control the manager better. The final say always is that of the owner Vincent Tan, to whom NW would go directly if he couldn’t get his own way with that committee.

Some questions for you.

Do you agree that NW has been involved in a number of dodgy transfer deals such as Bacuna and the two McKay brothers of benefit to him, his son and a friend who is a disgraced former football agent who NW knew was not allowed to be involved in football transfers rather than for the benefit of CCFC?
Are you worried that various reports due out this year on transactions and activities involving NW will show him and the club in a very bad light?

Keith,


I Never avoid answering anyone’s questions

As to the stickies if you watch I try and give a balance view by always letting both positive & negative opinions on thee

As to my own forum, anyone can start there own Never stopped anyone This forum has been going strong for nearly 12 years , so it must be doing something right

So the Committee as you’ve answered have the final say on transfers , with Tan at the head of it.


As to Warnock , I can’t accuse him of any wrong doings as I have NO evidence .
But I have a few suspicions and have done on many managers before him, it seems football is still full of dodgy dealings and has never stopped for 50 plus years and some how it continues.

As to the EMILIANO SALA deal from day one , I had big big suspicions about our clubs involvements , but was shot down on here, many times for suggesting it.


Last questions from me

Are you happy how our debt has still be so high after 10years? And who do you blame for the current debts?

Regards

Annis

Sorry Keith,

Also where did you get your info on Neil Warnock?
Where is the evidence that Warnock took backhanders ?

VERDICT

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Annis.

You ask me what evidence I have of NW taking “ backhanders”. I can see nowhere where I have made that accusation.

I did describe some of his transfer dealings as “ dodgy” and stand by that view.
Bacuna was bought for more than market value on considerably more money than Reading were paying him and for an extraordinarily long contract (4.5 years rather than the usual 3).Apart from the player himself the main beneficiary rather than our club was his agent James Warnock. James Warnock is also the agent of Rhys Healey and Sean Morrison. It may of course be just a coincidence that SM received an improved contract very soon after changing agents to JW.

I would doubt if anyone can explain the benefit to CCFC of giving lucrative professional contracts to two sons of the disgraced former football agent Willie McKay who NW has known for some time has been banned from being a licensed intermediary and therefore not allowed to be involved directly or indirectly in football transfers. And yet he still dealt with him in negotiations in the tragic case of Emiliano Sala where the beneficiary of the inflated transfer fee ( WMcKay has admitted that he directly made efforts to inflate the fee) would have been the son of said WMcKay.

The above are facts not hearsay.

Annis.

You ask me what evidence I have of NW taking “ backhanders”. I can see nowhere where I have made that accusation.

I did describe some of his transfer dealings as “ dodgy” and stand by that view.
Bacuna was bought for more than market value on considerably more money than Reading were paying him and for an extraordinarily long contract (4.5 years rather than the usual 3).Apart from the player himself the main beneficiary rather than our club was his agent James Warnock. James Warnock is also the agent of Rhys Healey and Sean Morrison. It may of course be just a coincidence that SM received an improved contract very soon after changing agents to JW.

I would doubt if anyone can explain the benefit to CCFC of giving lucrative professional contracts to two sons of the disgraced former football agent Willie McKay who NW has known for some time has been banned from being a licensed intermediary and therefore not allowed to be involved directly or indirectly in football transfers. And yet he still dealt with him in negotiations in the tragic case of Emiliano Sala where the beneficiary of the inflated transfer fee ( WMcKay has admitted that he directly made efforts to inflate the fee) would have been the son of said WMcKay.

The above are facts not hearsay.

The Bacuna transfer was a last minute January transfer when we were desperate of course it’s going to be inflated.

An surely one of our lovely transfer committee should of been negotiating contracts and not the manager who had enough on his plate already.

Annis, you asked me one question which I forgot to answer earlier regarding the current level of debt the club has and was I happy with that level.

The most recent filed accounts are those for the year ended 31 May 2018,our promotion season. That year, despite making a big trading loss ( largely down to promotion bonuses paid) the club’s overall net liabilities were greatly reduced from around £80m to below £11m at the year end. This was down to two main factors,an upwards revaluation of the football stadium and a big conversion of the debt due to Vincent Tan into non- repayable shares.So yes I was pretty happy with the level of our debts then as they were considerably lower than most of our rivals at Championship level.

The May 2019 accounts have not been published and I have not yet had the opportunity of doing my usual pre- publication review of them. However, I expect to see a substantial trading profit for that year to further improve the net liability position. Until I see the accounts I have no idea if VT did further debt write offs or debt to equity conversions in the year but,if he did,the gross debt due to him will also have come down. .

Hope this helps

Keith

Annis, you asked me one question which I forgot to answer earlier regarding the current level of debt the club has and was I happy with that level.

The most recent filed accounts are those for the year ended 31 May 2018,our promotion season. That year, despite making a big trading loss ( largely down to promotion bonuses paid) the club’s overall net liabilities were greatly reduced from around £80m to below £11m at the year end. This was down to two main factors,an upwards revaluation of the football stadium and a big conversion of the debt due to Vincent Tan into non- repayable shares.So yes I was pretty happy with the level of our debts then as they were considerably lower than most of our rivals at Championship level.

The May 2019 accounts have not been published and I have not yet had the opportunity of doing my usual pre- publication review of them. However, I expect to see a substantial trading profit for that year to further improve the net liability position. Until I see the accounts I have no idea if VT did further debt write offs or debt to equity conversions in the year but,if he did,the gross debt due to him will also have come down. .

Hope this helps

Keith

Wow!

If (and I don't doubt you, Keith) that is correct, it is one heck of a positive piece of news for Vincent Tan, the club itself and its supporters

Clearly, this will please the more pragmatic amongst us, who want Cardiff City to become a more 'responsible' club financially after the nightmare scenarios of not too distant times gone by

With a little (but not substantial) information on the matter that I believe to be factual, I suspect that Mr Tan will now further his attempts to move on and relinquish his control on a club he didn't really want in the beginning

As much as I appreciate that he saved us from oblivion and put a lot of his own money in, I feel that the fortuitous appointment of a very successful Neil Warnock has enabled him (Mr Tan) to bring forward his plans to hand the club over to someone else as soon as is practicable

It almost happened a season or so ago and it is likely he will try to do so again soon, as the indicators like removing Neil Warnock, putting in Russell Slade (oops, sorry, I mean his doppleganger Neil Harris) as a 'grateful to have a job' manager, not attending any matches this season and allowing his two 'key' men (Ken Choo and Mehmet Dalman) to relocate to London; although I understand the amiable Ken does still have a place in Cardiff that he uses

Only time will tell but the signs are there...

Annis, you asked me one question which I forgot to answer earlier regarding the current level of debt the club has and was I happy with that level.

The most recent filed accounts are those for the year ended 31 May 2018,our promotion season. That year, despite making a big trading loss ( largely down to promotion bonuses paid) the club’s overall net liabilities were greatly reduced from around £80m to below £11m at the year end. This was down to two main factors,an upwards revaluation of the football stadium and a big conversion of the debt due to Vincent Tan into non- repayable shares.So yes I was pretty happy with the level of our debts then as they were considerably lower than most of our rivals at Championship level.

The May 2019 accounts have not been published and I have not yet had the opportunity of doing my usual pre- publication review of them. However, I expect to see a substantial trading profit for that year to further improve the net liability position. Until I see the accounts I have no idea if VT did further debt write offs or debt to equity conversions in the year but,if he did,the gross debt due to him will also have come down. .

Hope this helps

Keith

Wow!

If (and I don't doubt you, Keith) that is correct, it is one heck of a positive piece of news for Vincent Tan, the club itself and its supporters

Clearly, this will please the more pragmatic amongst us, who want Cardiff City to become a more 'responsible' club financially after the nightmare scenarios of not too distant times gone by

With a little (but not substantial) information on the matter that I believe to be factual, I suspect that Mr Tan will now further his attempts to move on and relinquish his control on a club he didn't really want in the beginning

As much as I appreciate that he saved us from oblivion and put a lot of his own money in, I feel that the fortuitous appointment of a very successful Neil Warnock has enabled him (Mr Tan) to bring forward his plans to hand the club over to someone else as soon as is practicable

It almost happened a season or so ago and it is likely he will try to do so again soon, as the indicators like removing Neil Warnock, putting in Russell Slade (oops, sorry, I mean his doppleganger Neil Harris) as a 'grateful to have a job' manager, not attending any matches this season and allowing his two 'key' men (Ken Choo and Mehmet Dalman) to relocate to London; although I understand the amiable Ken does still have a place in Cardiff that he uses

Only time will tell but the signs are there...

Chris can Keith's statement about debt be put in a stand alone thread just so it can be seen by all..

Annis, you asked me one question which I forgot to answer earlier regarding the current level of debt the club has and was I happy with that level.

The most recent filed accounts are those for the year ended 31 May 2018,our promotion season. That year, despite making a big trading loss ( largely down to promotion bonuses paid) the club’s overall net liabilities were greatly reduced from around £80m to below £11m at the year end. This was down to two main factors,an upwards revaluation of the football stadium and a big conversion of the debt due to Vincent Tan into non- repayable shares.So yes I was pretty happy with the level of our debts then as they were considerably lower than most of our rivals at Championship level.

The May 2019 accounts have not been published and I have not yet had the opportunity of doing my usual pre- publication review of them. However, I expect to see a substantial trading profit for that year to further improve the net liability position. Until I see the accounts I have no idea if VT did further debt write offs or debt to equity conversions in the year but,if he did,the gross debt due to him will also have come down. .

Hope this helps

Keith

Wow!

If (and I don't doubt you, Keith) that is correct, it is one heck of a positive piece of news for Vincent Tan, the club itself and its supporters

Clearly, this will please the more pragmatic amongst us, who want Cardiff City to become a more 'responsible' club financially after the nightmare scenarios of not too distant times gone by

With a little (but not substantial) information on the matter that I believe to be factual, I suspect that Mr Tan will now further his attempts to move on and relinquish his control on a club he didn't really want in the beginning

As much as I appreciate that he saved us from oblivion and put a lot of his own money in, I feel that the fortuitous appointment of a very successful Neil Warnock has enabled him (Mr Tan) to bring forward his plans to hand the club over to someone else as soon as is practicable

It almost happened a season or so ago and it is likely he will try to do so again soon, as the indicators like removing Neil Warnock, putting in Russell Slade (oops, sorry, I mean his doppleganger Neil Harris) as a 'grateful to have a job' manager, not attending any matches this season and allowing his two 'key' men (Ken Choo and Mehmet Dalman) to relocate to London; although I understand the amiable Ken does still have a place in Cardiff that he uses

Only time will tell but the signs are there...

Chris can Keith's statement about debt be put in a stand alone thread just so it can be seen by all..

Good suggestion, Allan...and done!

Annis, you asked me one question which I forgot to answer earlier regarding the current level of debt the club has and was I happy with that level.

The most recent filed accounts are those for the year ended 31 May 2018,our promotion season. That year, despite making a big trading loss ( largely down to promotion bonuses paid) the club’s overall net liabilities were greatly reduced from around £80m to below £11m at the year end. This was down to two main factors,an upwards revaluation of the football stadium and a big conversion of the debt due to Vincent Tan into non- repayable shares.So yes I was pretty happy with the level of our debts then as they were considerably lower than most of our rivals at Championship level.

The May 2019 accounts have not been published and I have not yet had the opportunity of doing my usual pre- publication review of them. However, I expect to see a substantial trading profit for that year to further improve the net liability position. Until I see the accounts I have no idea if VT did further debt write offs or debt to equity conversions in the year but,if he did,the gross debt due to him will also have come down. .

Hope this helps

Keith

Wow!

If (and I don't doubt you, Keith) that is correct, it is one heck of a positive piece of news for Vincent Tan, the club itself and its supporters

Clearly, this will please the more pragmatic amongst us, who want Cardiff City to become a more 'responsible' club financially after the nightmare scenarios of not too distant times gone by

With a little (but not substantial) information on the matter that I believe to be factual, I suspect that Mr Tan will now further his attempts to move on and relinquish his control on a club he didn't really want in the beginning

As much as I appreciate that he saved us from oblivion and put a lot of his own money in, I feel that the fortuitous appointment of a very successful Neil Warnock has enabled him (Mr Tan) to bring forward his plans to hand the club over to someone else as soon as is practicable

It almost happened a season or so ago and it is likely he will try to do so again soon, as the indicators like removing Neil Warnock, putting in Russell Slade (oops, sorry, I mean his doppleganger Neil Harris) as a 'grateful to have a job' manager, not attending any matches this season and allowing his two 'key' men (Ken Choo and Mehmet Dalman) to relocate to London; although I understand the amiable Ken does still have a place in Cardiff that he uses

Only time will tell but the signs are there...

James Warnock was the agent for 3 players ???????????????????

WOW INDEED...he does work for USM who are agents for loads of players including some of ours. but was not the agent on any of those deals...the FA were asked a year ago to check them , no charges no wrong doing ..now that is a FACT.
as for SM.we had turned down a substantial offer from Sheffield Wednesday.. the club therefore thought it wise to extend his contract. its what most clubs do.
Willy Mckay , yes id imagine NW knew he was banned, I did, lots of people did, was in the news papers for goodness sake...wasn't some secret and covert operation. everyone knew not just Warnock..
2 plus 2 doesn't make 6 ,

Annis, you asked me one question which I forgot to answer earlier regarding the current level of debt the club has and was I happy with that level.

The most recent filed accounts are those for the year ended 31 May 2018,our promotion season. That year, despite making a big trading loss ( largely down to promotion bonuses paid) the club’s overall net liabilities were greatly reduced from around £80m to below £11m at the year end. This was down to two main factors,an upwards revaluation of the football stadium and a big conversion of the debt due to Vincent Tan into non- repayable shares.So yes I was pretty happy with the level of our debts then as they were considerably lower than most of our rivals at Championship level.

The May 2019 accounts have not been published and I have not yet had the opportunity of doing my usual pre- publication review of them. However, I expect to see a substantial trading profit for that year to further improve the net liability position. Until I see the accounts I have no idea if VT did further debt write offs or debt to equity conversions in the year but,if he did,the gross debt due to him will also have come down. .

Hope this helps

Keith

Wow!

If (and I don't doubt you, Keith) that is correct, it is one heck of a positive piece of news for Vincent Tan, the club itself and its supporters

Clearly, this will please the more pragmatic amongst us, who want Cardiff City to become a more 'responsible' club financially after the nightmare scenarios of not too distant times gone by

With a little (but not substantial) information on the matter that I believe to be factual, I suspect that Mr Tan will now further his attempts to move on and relinquish his control on a club he didn't really want in the beginning

As much as I appreciate that he saved us from oblivion and put a lot of his own money in, I feel that the fortuitous appointment of a very successful Neil Warnock has enabled him (Mr Tan) to bring forward his plans to hand the club over to someone else as soon as is practicable

It almost happened a season or so ago and it is likely he will try to do so again soon, as the indicators like removing Neil Warnock, putting in Russell Slade (oops, sorry, I mean his doppleganger Neil Harris) as a 'grateful to have a job' manager, not attending any matches this season and allowing his two 'key' men (Ken Choo and Mehmet Dalman) to relocate to London; although I understand the amiable Ken does still have a place in Cardiff that he uses

Only time will tell but the signs are there...

James Warnock was the agent for 3 players ???????????????????

WOW INDEED...he does work for USM who are agents for loads of players including some of ours. but was not the agent on any of those deals...the FA were asked a year ago to check them , no charges no wrong doing ..now that is a FACT.
as for SM.we had turned down a substantial offer from Sheffield Wednesday.. the club therefore thought it wise to extend his contract. its what most clubs do.
Willy Mckay , yes id imagine NW knew he was banned, I did, lots of people did, was in the news papers for goodness sake...wasn't some secret and covert operation. everyone knew not just Warnock..
2 plus 2 doesn't make 6 ,

Sorry, I'm a little at a loss with regard to what you're getting at within my own or Keith's posts?