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Re: Is the S.Wales derby dead?

Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:18 pm

Stairway to Merthyr wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
DexterMorgan420 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
DexterMorgan420 wrote:Two out of two games the atmosphere has been tame. We were crap at creating and atmosphere and I only really heard Swansea before kick off and after the game ended ( probably cos they had no choice but to stay behind).

Maybe it's because it's now in the second tier and tasting the premier League has taken the shine off it all?

Or is it just me?


Atmosphere in the first game was fantastic.

Cardiff haven’t scored against Swansea in 6 years so probably feels worse for you guys.


If you really think the first game was a great atmosphere - it must of been your first derby.


I have been to many, it was fantastic. “The Liberty is rocking” was the phrase used a lot by the pundits and neutrals.


Not surprised it was rocking, it feels like it was made by Bob the builder



It certainly was bouncing at city end you could feel the concrete moving.. :o

Re: Is the S.Wales derby dead?

Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:44 pm

Stringfellow wrote:Decent atmosphere for a 0-0 Sunday modern day support, compare it to the other games in the country because comparing it to the olden days is apples and oranges. The edge has gone simple as that.

It had the potential to go up a few notches with some more goal mouth action and a goal but is was as good as you are going to get in the modern game.


I agree. A goal for us and atmosphere would have been rsused 500%.

Re: Is the S.Wales derby dead?

Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:39 pm

welshcasual wrote:
DexterMorgan420 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
DexterMorgan420 wrote:Two out of two games the atmosphere has been tame. We were crap at creating and atmosphere and I only really heard Swansea before kick off and after the game ended ( probably cos they had no choice but to stay behind).

Maybe it's because it's now in the second tier and tasting the premier League has taken the shine off it all?

Or is it just me?


Atmosphere in the first game was fantastic.

Cardiff haven’t scored against Swansea in 6 years so probably feels worse for you guys.


If you really think the first game was a great atmosphere - it must of been your first derby.


I have been to many, it was fantastic. “The Liberty is rocking” was the phrase used a lot by the pundits and neutrals.


i think you hit the nail on the head when you say that phrase was used by pundits and neutrals....neturals would say, thats a good atmosphere when they have been there and experienced real atmospheres. and pundits say it for EVERY derby game thats in the UK. ooh you can hear the crowd, they have got "stadium x rocking" its to build excitement amongst the tv watchers.

both "derbies" had poor atmospheres, lets be realistic here. anyone who thought either had a "derby atmosphere" either is a modern day fan, i'm only 28, but i remember games in Ninian park, with about 10,000/12000 fans that was extremely intimidating and bouncing, and those games were tuesday night and non derbies. the modern day derby is dead. honestly does anyone car about us playing each other. to me swansea is just another game theres nothing exciting about it. if we lose it doesnt hurt like it should and if we win it doesnt feel as good as it should.

i've got plenty of good friends who are swans fans, all say the same. the derby is dead, its the youngsters who look forward to it, and "enjoy" but if you think that either of the derbies had a decent atmosphere my friend, i have sympathy you never experienced the old atmospheres...i dont mean violent but really intimidating and really bouncing

Re: Is the S.Wales derby dead?

Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:41 pm

bluebird04 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
DexterMorgan420 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
DexterMorgan420 wrote:Two out of two games the atmosphere has been tame. We were crap at creating and atmosphere and I only really heard Swansea before kick off and after the game ended ( probably cos they had no choice but to stay behind).

Maybe it's because it's now in the second tier and tasting the premier League has taken the shine off it all?

Or is it just me?


Atmosphere in the first game was fantastic.

Cardiff haven’t scored against Swansea in 6 years so probably feels worse for you guys.


If you really think the first game was a great atmosphere - it must of been your first derby.


I have been to many, it was fantastic. “The Liberty is rocking” was the phrase used a lot by the pundits and neutrals.


i think you hit the nail on the head when you say that phrase was used by pundits and neutrals....neturals would say, thats a good atmosphere when they have been there and experienced real atmospheres. and pundits say it for EVERY derby game thats in the UK. ooh you can hear the crowd, they have got "stadium x rocking" its to build excitement amongst the tv watchers.

both "derbies" had poor atmospheres, lets be realistic here. anyone who thought either had a "derby atmosphere" either is a modern day fan, i'm only 28, but i remember games in Ninian park, with about 10,000/12000 fans that was extremely intimidating and bouncing, and those games were tuesday night and non derbies. the modern day derby is dead. honestly does anyone car about us playing each other. to me swansea is just another game theres nothing exciting about it. if we lose it doesnt hurt like it should and if we win it doesnt feel as good as it should.

i've got plenty of good friends who are swans fans, all say the same. the derby is dead, its the youngsters who look forward to it, and "enjoy" but if you think that either of the derbies had a decent atmosphere my friend, i have sympathy you never experienced the old atmospheres...i dont mean violent but really intimidating and really bouncing


You're not wrong about the pundits tbh, sky were bigging it up many times throughout the build up and during the game.

I didn't go for personal reasons but my mates who went said it was the worst derby theh have been to in terms of atmosphere, they were proper deflated, stewards came in for some flack, I don't know what the answer is, getting people to sit down every ten seconds doesn't help, we need to be allowed to have a section close to the away fans where people can stand and sing be it the Ninian Stand or the Canton swapping with family.

Wales games are good but it's a one way atmosphere.

Re: Is the S.Wales derby dead?

Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:03 pm

RV Casual wrote:
bluebird04 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
DexterMorgan420 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
DexterMorgan420 wrote:Two out of two games the atmosphere has been tame. We were crap at creating and atmosphere and I only really heard Swansea before kick off and after the game ended ( probably cos they had no choice but to stay behind).

Maybe it's because it's now in the second tier and tasting the premier League has taken the shine off it all?

Or is it just me?


Atmosphere in the first game was fantastic.

Cardiff haven’t scored against Swansea in 6 years so probably feels worse for you guys.


If you really think the first game was a great atmosphere - it must of been your first derby.


I have been to many, it was fantastic. “The Liberty is rocking” was the phrase used a lot by the pundits and neutrals.


i think you hit the nail on the head when you say that phrase was used by pundits and neutrals....neturals would say, thats a good atmosphere when they have been there and experienced real atmospheres. and pundits say it for EVERY derby game thats in the UK. ooh you can hear the crowd, they have got "stadium x rocking" its to build excitement amongst the tv watchers.

both "derbies" had poor atmospheres, lets be realistic here. anyone who thought either had a "derby atmosphere" either is a modern day fan, i'm only 28, but i remember games in Ninian park, with about 10,000/12000 fans that was extremely intimidating and bouncing, and those games were tuesday night and non derbies. the modern day derby is dead. honestly does anyone car about us playing each other. to me swansea is just another game theres nothing exciting about it. if we lose it doesnt hurt like it should and if we win it doesnt feel as good as it should.

i've got plenty of good friends who are swans fans, all say the same. the derby is dead, its the youngsters who look forward to it, and "enjoy" but if you think that either of the derbies had a decent atmosphere my friend, i have sympathy you never experienced the old atmospheres...i dont mean violent but really intimidating and really bouncing


You're not wrong about the pundits tbh, sky were bigging it up many times throughout the build up and during the game.

I didn't go for personal reasons but my mates who went said it was the worst derby theh have been to in terms of atmosphere, they were proper deflated, stewards came in for some flack, I don't know what the answer is, getting people to sit down every ten seconds doesn't help, we need to be allowed to have a section close to the away fans where people can stand and sing be it the Ninian Stand or the Canton swapping with family.

Wales games are good but it's a one way atmosphere.



moving the home end is not going to happen...
not even sure how much real appetite there is amongst fans.. a fella started a petition a few months back, put links up and it reached about 30 signatures ??????????????

Re: Is the S.Wales derby dead?

Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:40 pm

Didn’t some Swansea fans on Twitter last year make a reference to Sala swimming away from Cardiff once the news broke? I know the swim away chant has been around since they chased those kids into the sea (even if they weren’t kids, how weird is it that a large group are proud of chasing a handful of people into the sea?) but they managed to put two and two together and make some sick joke about it

Re: Is the S.Wales derby dead?

Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:27 pm

BluebirdForever wrote:Didn’t some Swansea fans on Twitter last year make a reference to Sala swimming away from Cardiff once the news broke? I know the swim away chant has been around since they chased those kids into the sea (even if they weren’t kids, how weird is it that a large group are proud of chasing a handful of people into the sea?) but they managed to put two and two together and make some sick joke about it


Put the spade down.

Re: Is the S.Wales derby dead?

Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:35 pm

welshcasual wrote:
BluebirdForever wrote:Didn’t some Swansea fans on Twitter last year make a reference to Sala swimming away from Cardiff once the news broke? I know the swim away chant has been around since they chased those kids into the sea (even if they weren’t kids, how weird is it that a large group are proud of chasing a handful of people into the sea?) but they managed to put two and two together and make some sick joke about it


Put the spade down.

Pity

Re: Is the S.Wales derby dead?

Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:38 pm

Dead ????

Re: Is the S.Wales derby dead?

Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:48 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:Dead ????


You didn’t win one, people are throwing their toys out of the pram.

Re: Is the S.Wales derby dead?

Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:56 pm

welshcasual wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:Dead ????


You didn’t win one, people are throwing their toys out of the pram.


;)