(ENGLISH) WIGAN REJECT CARDIFF CITY BID FOR STRIKER

Should have offered a straight swap for Madine if they wanted him
Or add him into the deal.

Dont think Moore is the answer though unfortunately.
If they did sign him though surely it puts a question mark over Glatzels future here ?

Should have offered a straight swap for Madine if they wanted him
Or add him into the deal.

Dont think Moore is the answer though unfortunately.
If they did sign him though surely it puts a question mark over Glatzels future here ?

We'd have had to pay them more if we wanted them to take Madine off our hands!

Madine will find a club soon enough at his proper level - League 1 or below.

We can only hope this is false journalism (just because he plays for wales we must be interested type of crap).

My worry though is that this is the type of player Harris knows all too well and is likely to sign.

Yep

What a shame

He's focal point when playing for Wales but he's also surrounded by Gareth Bale, Aaron Ramsey, Daniel James, David Brooks, Harry Wilson etc which I feel makes him look better than he actually is playing with players of that quality. I prefer to look at his record at Championship level which reads

Yeovil - 20 games 4 goals.
Ipswich Town - 11 games 0 goals.
Barnsley - 20 games 4 goals
Wigan Athletic - 17 games 2 goals (This season, and 1 was a penalty)

He's 27 now and I have tbh im disappointed if we're looking to spend 2.3m+ on a player with that record. I mean who knows maybe he's a late bloomer and might be better in our style of play (I doubt it), but I find it odd that we're prioritising a striker specifically one who's record isn't particularly good at this level. Id have thought other positions might have had more of a priority.

Have to love our fan's, we are a mid table championship team did you all think we would be signing players from the Premier league? We have to balance the books and look at players from the championship and youngsters from league one.

This is going to be our future for the next few years.

He's focal point when playing for Wales but he's also surrounded by Gareth Bale, Aaron Ramsey, Daniel James, David Brooks, Harry Wilson etc which I feel makes him look better than he actually is playing with players of that quality. I prefer to look at his record at Championship level which reads

Yeovil - 20 games 4 goals.
Ipswich Town - 11 games 0 goals.
Barnsley - 20 games 4 goals
Wigan Athletic - 17 games 2 goals (This season, and 1 was a penalty)

He's 27 now and I have tbh im disappointed if we're looking to spend 2.3m+ on a player with that record. I mean who knows maybe he's a late bloomer and might be better in our style of play (I doubt it), but I find it odd that we're prioritising a striker specifically one who's record isn't particularly good at this level. Id have thought other positions might have had more of a priority.

Yes midfield and defence is of higher priority! Not sure we need another striker 1st .... unless of course NH as plans we dont know about..

Have to love our fan's, we are a mid table championship team did you all think we would be signing players from the Premier league? We have to balance the books and look at players from the championship and youngsters from league one.

This is going to be our future for the next few years.

Fair enough but why spend what little money we have available on players who will not improve us in the slightest?

Have to love our fan's, we are a mid table championship team did you all think we would be signing players from the Premier league? We have to balance the books and look at players from the championship and youngsters from league one.

This is going to be our future for the next few years.

Fair enough but why spend what little money we have available on players who will not improve us in the slightest?

He's a Harris type of player, I wouldn't be surprised if in the summer Glatzel and Ward are sold.

Have to love our fan's, we are a mid table championship team did you all think we would be signing players from the Premier league? We have to balance the books and look at players from the championship and youngsters from league one.

This is going to be our future for the next few years.

Fair enough but why spend what little money we have available on players who will not improve us in the slightest?

He's a Harris type of player, I wouldn't be surprised if in the summer Glatzel and Ward are sold.

agree.

Have to love our fan's, we are a mid table championship team did you all think we would be signing players from the Premier league? We have to balance the books and look at players from the championship and youngsters from league one.

This is going to be our future for the next few years.

Fair enough but why spend what little money we have available on players who will not improve us in the slightest?

He's a Harris type of player, I wouldn't be surprised if in the summer Glatzel and Ward are sold.

A striker who hardly ever scores at Championship level - if that's a Harris type of player we're in real trouble.

Especially as we've just got rid of another such striker.

we are going backwards fast.

We have been since the relegation. We are heading quickly toward where we were before warnock took over.

we are going backwards fast.

We have been since the relegation. We are heading quickly toward where we were before warnock took over.

Exactly.

Have to love our fan's, we are a mid table championship team did you all think we would be signing players from the Premier league? We have to balance the books and look at players from the championship and youngsters from league one.

This is going to be our future for the next few years.

Fair enough but why spend what little money we have available on players who will not improve us in the slightest?

He's a Harris type of player, I wouldn't be surprised if in the summer Glatzel and Ward are sold.

A striker who hardly ever scores at Championship level - if that's a Harris type of player we're in real trouble.

Especially as we've just got rid of another such striker.

it completely beats me...you've been watching us and along with others don't seem to know how we have been playing.... we need..the ball to stick..thats where our goals come from.. we are not creating striker opportunities by playing fast flowing football and that's not going to change, certainly not in this window.. but so many people seem to think a fox in the box is what we should sign..
im not saying Moore, but the manager knows how he wants to play and therefore knows the type of player he wants .

Have to love our fan's, we are a mid table championship team did you all think we would be signing players from the Premier league? We have to balance the books and look at players from the championship and youngsters from league one.

This is going to be our future for the next few years.

Fair enough but why spend what little money we have available on players who will not improve us in the slightest?

He's a Harris type of player, I wouldn't be surprised if in the summer Glatzel and Ward are sold.

A striker who hardly ever scores at Championship level - if that's a Harris type of player we're in real trouble.

Especially as we've just got rid of another such striker.

it completely beats me...you've been watching us and along with others don't seem to know how we have been playing.... we need..the ball to stick..thats where our goals come from.. we are not creating striker opportunities by playing fast flowing football and that's not going to change, certainly not in this window.. but so many people seem to think a fox in the box is what we should sign..

We certainly need a striker who holds ball up neither two we have can do that maybe NH is thinking of 442 with him and glatzel upfront or glatzel behind him? Either way need to change something or going nowhere this season.

Glatzel and Moore up front...

Ffs release madine and replace with another donkey. May as well put flint up top. Are the 3 stooges on this transfer comittee?

No thanks

we are going backwards fast.

We have been since the relegation. We are heading quickly toward where we were before warnock took over.

Exactly.

I think we all knew how 'special' Neil Warnock was and how well he fitted into this club

He led us to some unbelievable times that will stay in the memory of the real supporters

Too many 'knocked' when the going got even slightly tough and it is now coming home to roost!

Glatzel and Moore up front...

I know we do SFA dont sighn anyone and then we can all look at your posts and marvel at positivity for signing nobody..

Ffs release madine and replace with another donkey. May as well put flint up top. Are the 3 stooges on this transfer comittee?

No thanks

Have to love our fan's, we are a mid table championship team did you all think we would be signing players from the Premier league? We have to balance the books and look at players from the championship and youngsters from league one.

This is going to be our future for the next few years.

Exatly it's amazing that our fan base I'd love to know who fans realistically think we are going sign someone wrote week or so ago dwight gale what would he cost in this market 10-12 million we wouldnt have spent that in the premier why would we now . This is our future I completely agree mayb if warnock didnt blow millions on glatsel flint to name 2 then mayb we could be pushing the boat out but i would love to know who the fans expect us to get in in this window

Honestly now from the fans on here who do you really see us bringing in this window money spent etc etc and realistic names players you would be happy with

Have to love our fan's, we are a mid table championship team did you all think we would be signing players from the Premier league? We have to balance the books and look at players from the championship and youngsters from league one.

This is going to be our future for the next few years.

Fair enough but why spend what little money we have available on players who will not improve us in the slightest?

He's a Harris type of player, I wouldn't be surprised if in the summer Glatzel and Ward are sold.

A striker who hardly ever scores at Championship level - if that's a Harris type of player we're in real trouble.

Especially as we've just got rid of another such striker.

it completely beats me...you've been watching us and along with others don't seem to know how we have been playing.... we need..the ball to stick..thats where our goals come from.. we are not creating striker opportunities by playing fast flowing football and that's not going to change, certainly not in this window.. but so many people seem to think a fox in the box is what we should sign..
im not saying Moore, but the manager knows how he wants to play and therefore knows the type of player he wants .

I guess you're probably right. I've been watching all season and have no idea how we are trying to play. Doesn't seem to be any real tactical awareness or particular system especially as far as the attacking aspect of the game is concerned other than just lumping the ball aimlessly up the field and hoping something drops in our favour.

we are going backwards fast.

We have been since the relegation. We are heading quickly toward where we were before warnock took over.

Exactly.

I think we all knew how 'special' Neil Warnock was and how well he fitted into this club

He led us to some unbelievable times that will stay in the memory of the real supporters

Too many 'knocked' when the going got even slightly tough and it is now coming home to roost!

Yes but we are in this position because of the money warnock spent the fact that warnock put this team together and warnock mayb apart from Hodgson most experienced manager in uk couldnt get this his team to perform we have been crap the majority of this season and due to warnock's signings money spent we have a defence with zero pace bamba at his age is quickest we have we have a midfield what offers what to the team when tomlin isnt playing I do not know and strikers ha well less said there the better the sad thing best football we played this season was say 15 mins against shef wed at home when we battered them when tomlin came on apart from that we have been poor .

Have to love our fan's, we are a mid table championship team did you all think we would be signing players from the Premier league? We have to balance the books and look at players from the championship and youngsters from league one.

This is going to be our future for the next few years.

Fair enough but why spend what little money we have available on players who will not improve us in the slightest?

He's a Harris type of player, I wouldn't be surprised if in the summer Glatzel and Ward are sold.

A striker who hardly ever scores at Championship level - if that's a Harris type of player we're in real trouble.

Especially as we've just got rid of another such striker.

it completely beats me...you've been watching us and along with others don't seem to know how we have been playing.... we need..the ball to stick..thats where our goals come from.. we are not creating striker opportunities by playing fast flowing football and that's not going to change, certainly not in this window.. but so many people seem to think a fox in the box is what we should sign..
im not saying Moore, but the manager knows how he wants to play and therefore knows the type of player he wants .

I guess you're probably right. I've been watching all season and have no idea how we are trying to play. Doesn't seem to be any real tactical awareness or particular system especially as far as the attacking aspect of the game is concerned other than just lumping the ball aimlessly up the field and hoping something drops in our favour.

Maybe need to play without striker and put extra players in midfield and attack from there? Because only 7 teams have scored more goals than us so somewhere along the way we are managing to score reasonably amount of goals!

Being 8th in goals scored table is hardly an achievement or a yardstick of anything other than almost a third of the league are doing better in that department.

We need a new striker as our current crop are mid table standard strikers at best and Keiffer Moore is certainly not the answer to anything.

Confirmed that we HAVE made a bid - Harris can only play one way we are going to play uglier than under Warnock and not be as successful to set it off. I want Harris out

[quote="Bluebird Warrior"]He's focal point when playing for Wales but he's also surrounded by Gareth Bale, Aaron Ramsey, Daniel James, David Brooks, Harry Wilson etc which I feel makes him look better than he actually is playing with players of that quality. I prefer to look at his record at Championship level which reads

Yeovil - 20 games 4 goals.
Ipswich Town - 11 games 0 goals.
Barnsley - 20 games 4 goals
Wigan Athletic - 17 games 2 goals (This season, and 1 was a penalty)

He's 27 now and I have tbh im disappointed if we're looking to spend 2.3m+ on a player with that record. I mean who knows maybe he's a late bloomer and might be better in our style of play (I doubt it), but I find it odd that we're prioritising a striker specifically one who's record isn't particularly good at this level. Id have thought other positions might

I posted the original thread (not sticky ) on the Moore rumour. I was surprised at the level of negativity of responses. Many were doing cartwheels on here when Neil Warnock signed Madine and some still rate him.
At least Moore would give 100% and IMHO would have a better attitude.
now I don't know whether or not Moore would be a good signing or not but let's at least get the facts right

According to Wiki...?
2018–2019
Barnsley 51 appearances and 21 goals. That's a slightly better return than Gary at CCFC the

That aside, I tend to agree that central midfield is a more pressing problem. Gunnerson was a huge loss. ('remember our performances without him at the start of the Prem season). Pack is nowhere near as good Sadly Warnock should never have been manager this year and it's his poor signings that have set the club back. (except Curtis Nelson who appears a very good buy).
Too many on here have pre judged Harris and decided he is not up to the job. For goodness sake give the guy a fair chance!

If Harris believes Keiffer Moore is worth splashing money on then I’m afraid it shows he is out of his depth. It also shows that the football is going to be more turgid than currently I for one want him out ASAP before we lose the fans like last time