" Referendum on the Royal Family "

They should go
Rule by blood line, how archaic.
Their not even british

every monarch for 200 years born in Britain but they are not British. ?
using that criteria how many million non British people are roaming around with British passports.?

Get Rid they do nothing for Wales and the whole country would save millions not having to pay the upkeep on the Royal houses, their security and the money they get to live on.

Get Rid they do nothing for Wales and the whole country would save millions not having to pay the upkeep on the Royal houses, their security and the money they get to live on.

Save millions and lose much more just in tourism income and lost jobs good economics

Get Rid they do nothing for Wales and the whole country would save millions not having to pay the upkeep on the Royal houses, their security and the money they get to live on.

Have to say I'm not too bothered throwing in my £1 a year into the Royal coffers. What annoys me most is forking out £2200 a year council tax, and I'm pretty certain I don't get £2200 worth of service from my local authority. To rub salt into the wounds. I think the leader of my local authority is one of the highest paid in the country. Equally cheesed off with paying The BBC £150 a year irrespective of whether or not I watch it. I'm not interested in the Royals, but their £1 a year from me is small fry considering some of the other stuff I am forced to pay each year.

Get Rid they do nothing for Wales and the whole country would save millions not having to pay the upkeep on the Royal houses, their security and the money they get to live on.

Have to say I'm not too bothered throwing in my £1 a year into the Royal coffers. What annoys me most is forking out £2200 a year council tax, and I'm pretty certain I don't get £2200 worth of service from my local authority. To rub salt into the wounds. I think the leader of my local authority is one of the highest paid in the country. Equally cheesed off with paying The BBC £150 a year irrespective of whether or not I watch it. I'm not interested in the Royals, but their £1 a year from me is small fry considering some of the other stuff I am forced to pay each year.

Steve it appears people are happy to pay people lots of money and dont get what pay for! but happy to see off people who while it looks a waste of money actually bring in more money than we pay them strange logic

They should go
Rule by blood line, how archaic.
Their not even british

Discussing the royals is such a distraction from the real elites destroying culture. Our lives won't change for the better if the royals leave.

The corrupt ruling class are international bankers and media elite. Lets concentrate on them before it's too late.

It is a bit silly these days at face, but its part of what makes Britain the great oddity it is.. so she can stay for me.

Get rid of the Assembly first. Then the BBC.

Discussing the royals is such a distraction from the real elites destroying culture. Our lives won't change for the better if the royals leave.

The corrupt ruling class are international bankers and media elite. Lets concentrate on them before it's too late.

its just a hypothetical vote mate..
not much wrong with life here either.. apart from that duke farmer bloke.

Probably best to pull the plug on the Royals before that crank Charles takes over.

Probably best to pull the plug on the Royals before that crank Charles takes over.

not sure he will be there long mate..

Pembroke Alan you still don't get it do you.
Lets try simplifying for you.
We the tax payer are giving millionaires an allowance each year.
Thousands of people all over the UK are using food banks (or have you conveniently forgot about this?)
Universal Credit has plunged the poorest people in our society in to poverty, or do you think that this is just bullshit?
We are supposedly the fifth richest nation in the world?
But and this is the big BUT we treat the poorest people in our country with contempt and reward the rich people with allowances and tax cuts.
I think you will respond to me as a lefty and a snowflake, which is par for the course on sites like this.
For once in your life think of the big picture, think outside the box.
Do we need people living in poverty (when the wealth that this country has got, there is no need for it)
Do we need to be giving millionaires handouts? The property the Royals have is beyond belief and if they feel the pinch, i am sure they could sell them off for a handsome profit, don't you?
You come across as someone who has never faced hardship and people's circumstances are their own fault.
You will probably come back with your stock answer: Well i didn't say that?
But my friend, we know what you are implying.

Behead the lot of them and share their wealth out to the real needy

Pembroke Alan you still don't get it do you.
Lets try simplifying for you.
We the tax payer are giving millionaires an allowance each year.
Thousands of people all over the UK are using food banks (or have you conveniently forgot about this?)
Universal Credit has plunged the poorest people in our society in to poverty, or do you think that this is just bullshit?
We are supposedly the fifth richest nation in the world?
But and this is the big BUT we treat the poorest people in our country with contempt and reward the rich people with allowances and tax cuts.
I think you will respond to me as a lefty and a snowflake, which is par for the course on sites like this.
For once in your life think of the big picture, think outside the box.
Do we need people living in poverty (when the wealth that this country has got, there is no need for it)
Do we need to be giving millionaires handouts? The property the Royals have is beyond belief and if they feel the pinch, i am sure they could sell them off for a handsome profit, don't you?
You come across as someone who has never faced hardship and people's circumstances are their own fault.
You will probably come back with your stock answer: Well i didn't say that?
But my friend, we know what you are implying.

poverty is realative...we do not have real poverty here not compared to other counties and not compared to 20, 40 60 years ago in this country...there will always be people at the bottom with less and they will always be considered poor... think outside the box ? just try thinking at all.

Not the response I expected but respect to you sir for your reply.
The sooner we chop the heads off of the bloodsuckers the better.
It will herald the fall of the establishment.
Until the establishment fall we will always have a level of crime, hate, inequality and poverty in this country of ours.
It grates my piss to say so !!!!!!!!!

Pembroke Alan you still don't get it do you.
Lets try simplifying for you.
We the tax payer are giving millionaires an allowance each year.
Thousands of people all over the UK are using food banks (or have you conveniently forgot about this?)
Universal Credit has plunged the poorest people in our society in to poverty, or do you think that this is just bullshit?
We are supposedly the fifth richest nation in the world?
But and this is the big BUT we treat the poorest people in our country with contempt and reward the rich people with allowances and tax cuts.
I think you will respond to me as a lefty and a snowflake, which is par for the course on sites like this.
For once in your life think of the big picture, think outside the box.
Do we need people living in poverty (when the wealth that this country has got, there is no need for it)
Do we need to be giving millionaires handouts? The property the Royals have is beyond belief and if they feel the pinch, i am sure they could sell them off for a handsome profit, don't you?
You come across as someone who has never faced hardship and people's circumstances are their own fault.
You will probably come back with your stock answer: Well i didn't say that?
But my friend, we know what you are implying.

I get it but do you? We give billionaires tax breaks instead of taxing them to support the poor! We waste billions on WAG we wastes billions on defence equipment that doesn't work? We wasted billions on public IT systems that dont work can go on.... we spend millions on royal family who bring in billions to economy is that a waste compared to the billions I mentioned? As for universal credit that is a government entity so blame them not others! As for lefty and snowflake you are an idiot because your assuming I'm something you know nothing about? Wont bother to describe you as will get a stock answer. .

Ps I worked all my life and no never had money! And now retired on nhs pension so not exactly loaded...

Discussing the royals is such a distraction from the real elites destroying culture. Our lives won't change for the better if the royals leave.

The corrupt ruling class are international bankers and media elite. Lets concentrate on them before it's too late.

its just a hypothetical vote mate..
not much wrong with life here either.. apart from that duke farmer bloke.

dogfound, how can you say everything is fine? Maybe judging by our current GDP or unemployment rate. But look a little deeper, there is huge problems simmering away under the surface in British society. Huge anti depressant use, single parent families, STD rates, male suicide have all sky rocketed, a sure sign of societal decay is our declining birthrate...feminism has a corrosive affect on traditional male/female bonds that worked for millenia.
It seems Every other woman i meet is on anxiety medication. So much for female emanicipation. There's a lot of single young men about, which doesn't bode well for this decade ahead...to top it all off we are slowly being replaced by muslims and their issues are hidden from view. while middle class newspaper collumist target their middle class readers about having fewer kids due to a "climate emergency". Smell a conspiracy...lol
In my memory our media elite have never been so detached from the people, they serve nobody but their foreign globalist owners. Thats why i say The royal debate is such a distraction...it keeps the plebs happy while globalists torch Rome.

Check this 5 minute clip based on spengler... bumpy times ahead and probably the fall of liberal democracy, which will be very interesting...https://youtu.be/eaQHjzVUkNs

Alan agree with everything except the Royals.

Discussing the royals is such a distraction from the real elites destroying culture. Our lives won't change for the better if the royals leave.

The corrupt ruling class are international bankers and media elite. Lets concentrate on them before it's too late.

its just a hypothetical vote mate..
not much wrong with life here either.. apart from that duke farmer bloke.

dogfound, how can you say everything is fine? Maybe judging by our current GDP or unemployment rate. But look a little deeper, there is huge problems simmering away under the surface in British society. Huge anti depressant use, single parent families, STD rates, male suicide have all sky rocketed, a sure sign of societal decay is our declining birthrate...feminism has a corrosive affect on traditional male/female bonds that worked for millenia.
It seems Every other woman i meet is on anxiety medication. So much for female emanicipation. There's a lot of single young men about, which doesn't bode well for this decade ahead...to top it all off we are slowly being replaced by muslims and their issues are hidden from view. while middle class newspaper collumist target their middle class readers about having fewer kids due to a "climate emergency". Smell a conspiracy...lol
In my memory our media elite have never been so detached from the people, they serve nobody but their foreign globalist owners. Thats why i say The royal debate is such a distraction...it keeps the plebs happy while globalists torch Rome.

Check this 5 minute clip based on spengler... bumpy times ahead and probably the fall of liberal democracy, which will be very interesting...https://youtu.be/eaQHjzVUkNs

All this over a discussion about referendum on the royals? Lifes not perfect for lots of people! but there are people all over the world who would love to live in the uk wonder why?

Discussing the royals is such a distraction from the real elites destroying culture. Our lives won't change for the better if the royals leave.

The corrupt ruling class are international bankers and media elite. Lets concentrate on them before it's too late.

its just a hypothetical vote mate..
not much wrong with life here either.. apart from that duke farmer bloke.

dogfound, how can you say everything is fine? Maybe judging by our current GDP or unemployment rate. But look a little deeper, there is huge problems simmering away under the surface in British society. Huge anti depressant use, single parent families, STD rates, male suicide have all sky rocketed, a sure sign of societal decay is our declining birthrate...feminism has a corrosive affect on traditional male/female bonds that worked for millenia.
It seems Every other woman i meet is on anxiety medication. So much for female emanicipation. There's a lot of single young men about, which doesn't bode well for this decade ahead...to top it all off we are slowly being replaced by muslims and their issues are hidden from view. while middle class newspaper collumist target their middle class readers about having fewer kids due to a "climate emergency". Smell a conspiracy...lol
In my memory our media elite have never been so detached from the people, they serve nobody but their foreign globalist owners. Thats why i say The royal debate is such a distraction...it keeps the plebs happy while globalists torch Rome.

Check this 5 minute clip based on spengler... bumpy times ahead and probably the fall of liberal democracy, which will be very interesting...https://youtu.be/eaQHjzVUkNs

All this over a discussion about referendum on the royals? Lifes not perfect for lots of people! but there are people all over the world who would love to live in the uk wonder why?

Free money

Ely Boy,
Smack on the money.
To many MSM is gospel people on this site butty.
The football side of it is good but political views of some some people are very ill informed.
But hey we have all got opinions, whatever they maybe.
But people please research what people are telling you.

Respect to you Ely Boy

Ely Boy,
Smack on the money.
To many MSM is gospel people on this site butty.
The football side of it is good but political views of some some people are very ill informed.
But hey we have all got opinions, whatever they maybe.
But people please research what people are telling you.

Respect to you Ely Boy

Watching a youtube video is not exactly research.

Discussing the royals is such a distraction from the real elites destroying culture. Our lives won't change for the better if the royals leave.

The corrupt ruling class are international bankers and media elite. Lets concentrate on them before it's too late.

its just a hypothetical vote mate..
not much wrong with life here either.. apart from that duke farmer bloke.

dogfound, how can you say everything is fine? Maybe judging by our current GDP or unemployment rate. But look a little deeper, there is huge problems simmering away under the surface in British society. Huge anti depressant use, single parent families, STD rates, male suicide have all sky rocketed, a sure sign of societal decay is our declining birthrate...feminism has a corrosive affect on traditional male/female bonds that worked for millenia.
It seems Every other woman i meet is on anxiety medication. So much for female emanicipation. There's a lot of single young men about, which doesn't bode well for this decade ahead...to top it all off we are slowly being replaced by muslims and their issues are hidden from view. while middle class newspaper collumist target their middle class readers about having fewer kids due to a "climate emergency". Smell a conspiracy...lol
In my memory our media elite have never been so detached from the people, they serve nobody but their foreign globalist owners. Thats why i say The royal debate is such a distraction...it keeps the plebs happy while globalists torch Rome.

Check this 5 minute clip based on spengler... bumpy times ahead and probably the fall of liberal democracy, which will be very interesting...https://youtu.be/eaQHjzVUkNs

All this over a discussion about referendum on the royals? Lifes not perfect for lots of people! but there are people all over the world who would love to live in the uk wonder why?

Free money

Yes exactly and someone on here blaming poverty on paying the royal family when clearly the fault lies elsewhere? And it's the people of the UK who choose the people who make the laws enabling tom dick and arry to take the money even though not put penny into the economy.

Ely Boy,
Smack on the money.
To many MSM is gospel people on this site butty.
The football side of it is good but political views of some some people are very ill informed.
But hey we have all got opinions, whatever they maybe.
But people please research what people are telling you.

Respect to you Ely Boy

Respect to you spike, My political views were misguided for so long, i took a career break while our brexit vote was clearly being denied by a detatched political elite. It caused a massive awakening in me. if people knew the level of deception and lies, the psychological manipulation from MSM. There'd be a revolt.
These problems would be sorted if free speech were respected, but that ship sailed long ago... once the elites remove a sense of free speech, the abuse of power is stepped up and nobody daren't object as opposing views become unacceptable. Imagine grooming gangs happening 40 years ago and the outcry then conpared to now. On here, I go on about this subject a lot but it hurts me so much seeing my people subtly subjugated to the point grooming gangs can happen to our daughters. We must all break the mental bondage and start speaking up. For me, an attack on one girl is an attack on all of our girls. Our politicians don't care, you rarely hear mainstream views like mine on the media anymore. I genuinely believe there's trouble brewing in society, left and right we need to mobilise and build links offline for the future.

Ely Boy,
Smack on the money.
To many MSM is gospel people on this site butty.
The football side of it is good but political views of some some people are very ill informed.
But hey we have all got opinions, whatever they maybe.
But people please research what people are telling you.

Respect to you Ely Boy

Watching a youtube video is not exactly research.

If you object to Spengler's ideas thats fine. Objecting to the medium? That Doesn't go anywhere steve, i can't see the point. I know his books are superior because of the detail but as an entry. What is wrong with the link i posted?

Discussing the royals is such a distraction from the real elites destroying culture. Our lives won't change for the better if the royals leave.

The corrupt ruling class are international bankers and media elite. Lets concentrate on them before it's too late.

its just a hypothetical vote mate..
not much wrong with life here either.. apart from that duke farmer bloke.

dogfound, how can you say everything is fine? Maybe judging by our current GDP or unemployment rate. But look a little deeper, there is huge problems simmering away under the surface in British society. Huge anti depressant use, single parent families, STD rates, male suicide have all sky rocketed, a sure sign of societal decay is our declining birthrate...feminism has a corrosive affect on traditional male/female bonds that worked for millenia.
It seems Every other woman i meet is on anxiety medication. So much for female emanicipation. There's a lot of single young men about, which doesn't bode well for this decade ahead...to top it all off we are slowly being replaced by muslims and their issues are hidden from view. while middle class newspaper collumist target their middle class readers about having fewer kids due to a "climate emergency". Smell a conspiracy...lol
In my memory our media elite have never been so detached from the people, they serve nobody but their foreign globalist owners. Thats why i say The royal debate is such a distraction...it keeps the plebs happy while globalists torch Rome.

Check this 5 minute clip based on spengler... bumpy times ahead and probably the fall of liberal democracy, which will be very interesting...https://youtu.be/eaQHjzVUkNs

All this over a discussion about referendum on the royals? Lifes not perfect for lots of people! but there are people all over the world who would love to live in the uk wonder why?

Free money

Yes exactly and someone on here blaming poverty on paying the royal family when clearly the fault lies elsewhere? And it's the people of the UK who choose the people who make the laws enabling tom dick and arry to take the money even though not put penny into the economy.

Democracy is a sham Allan, people are given a false choice between two zionist puppets. Our desires and wants are largely manipulated by multi nationals who weild more power than government. So there's little free will.
Both Communism and Thatchers Neo Liberal capatalism are poison and have been disastrous for Europe.

Discussing the royals is such a distraction from the real elites destroying culture. Our lives won't change for the better if the royals leave.

The corrupt ruling class are international bankers and media elite. Lets concentrate on them before it's too late.

its just a hypothetical vote mate..
not much wrong with life here either.. apart from that duke farmer bloke.

dogfound, how can you say everything is fine? Maybe judging by our current GDP or unemployment rate. But look a little deeper, there is huge problems simmering away under the surface in British society. Huge anti depressant use, single parent families, STD rates, male suicide have all sky rocketed, a sure sign of societal decay is our declining birthrate...feminism has a corrosive affect on traditional male/female bonds that worked for millenia.
It seems Every other woman i meet is on anxiety medication. So much for female emanicipation. There's a lot of single young men about, which doesn't bode well for this decade ahead...to top it all off we are slowly being replaced by muslims and their issues are hidden from view. while middle class newspaper collumist target their middle class readers about having fewer kids due to a "climate emergency". Smell a conspiracy...lol
In my memory our media elite have never been so detached from the people, they serve nobody but their foreign globalist owners. Thats why i say The royal debate is such a distraction...it keeps the plebs happy while globalists torch Rome.

Check this 5 minute clip based on spengler... bumpy times ahead and probably the fall of liberal democracy, which will be very interesting...https://youtu.be/eaQHjzVUkNs

All this over a discussion about referendum on the royals? Lifes not perfect for lots of people! but there are people all over the world who would love to live in the uk wonder why?

Free money

Yes exactly and someone on here blaming poverty on paying the royal family when clearly the fault lies elsewhere? And it's the people of the UK who choose the people who make the laws enabling tom dick and arry to take the money even though not put penny into the economy.

Democracy is a sham Allan, people are given a false choice between two zionist puppets. Our desires and wants are largely manipulated by multi nationals who weild more power than government. So there's little free will.
Both Communism and Thatchers Neo Liberal capatalism are poison and have been disastrous for Europe.

Well after the Brexit fiasco I tend to agree but unfortunately what we have is the only one going to get in my lifetime.

Alan agree with everything except the Royals.

Ok and I'm not a royalist either! But not sure I would want a president Corbyn or boris for that matter. ... but a modernisation of the monarchy and way it is financed will happen as time goes by, queeny as done lots to reform how she is funded and what she spends just the rest of the mob to be reformed and we'll be sorted.

I am nobody’s subject and nobody is born better than or worse than me. Get rid of the ridiculous institution and along with it change the completely flawed political system we have in this country. Scrap the unelected House of Lords with its 22 Bishops and make politics secular as it should be. Absolute ridiculous that we have an unelected head of state which our MP’s have to swear vows to. Also shouldn’t be giving out subsidies to the likes of the Duke of Buccleath who get over £2 million a year just because he own aload of unused “farmland” in Scotland that would be better of it was allowed to instead be rewilded.

See Phil knows more then most he watches them at the U23 polo games

Your sad obsession with me just because I don’t agree with you is hilarious

I am nobody’s subject and nobody is born better than or worse than me. Get rid of the ridiculous institution and along with it change the completely flawed political system we have in this country. Scrap the unelected House of Lords with its 22 Bishops and make politics secular as it should be. Absolute ridiculous that we have an unelected head of state which our MP’s have to swear vows to. Also shouldn’t be giving out subsidies to the likes of the Duke of Buccleath who get over £2 million a year just because he own aload of unused “farmland” in Scotland that would be better of it was allowed to instead be rewilded.

the last bit... those subsidies are not just given out to Dukes..and rewilded ..yep that's the idea..has zero to do with privilege or titles...

Yes exactly the farming subsidies are idiotic and stop land being rewilded. Instead we pay billions every year to people just to keep land barren it’s utterly pathetic.