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Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:33 am

Sven wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:That OP is right up there with the most ridiculous posts for a long, long time. We have to try to build not take Warnock back until what, the end of the season?

Couldn't be more right! :clap: :ayatollah:

Warnock's legacy at this club is intact but is now firmly in the past

Like him, we move on and the baton is handed on... :ayatollah: :bluescarf:


That it’s one of the most ridiculous posts for a long time?

Seen this board lately.

Hardly crazy. If it is why are our fans calling for NH’s heed?

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:37 am

Is this the Facebook brigade because I physically havent heard one fan call for harris to go like I said we beat the Jack's all the facebook brigade will change there tune

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:38 am

maccydee wrote:
Sven wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:That OP is right up there with the most ridiculous posts for a long, long time. We have to try to build not take Warnock back until what, the end of the season?

Couldn't be more right! :clap: :ayatollah:

Warnock's legacy at this club is intact but is now firmly in the past

Like him, we move on and the baton is handed on... :ayatollah: :bluescarf:


That it’s one of the most ridiculous posts for a long time?

Seen this board lately.

Hardly crazy. If it is why are our fans calling for NH’s heed?

Let's face it Harris has been left the crap warnock left him with the most exp manager in league couldnt get best out of team so what does that say

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:12 pm

Chippy82 wrote:Is this the Facebook brigade because I physically havent heard one fan call for harris to go like I said we beat the Jack's all the facebook brigade will change there tune


Not on here after the QPR game?

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:39 pm

maccydee wrote:
Chippy82 wrote:Is this the Facebook brigade because I physically havent heard one fan call for harris to go like I said we beat the Jack's all the facebook brigade will change there tune


Not on here after the QPR game?

So what you're saying a few negative comments on here facebook whatever because of one result what % of the fan base is that mind these same fans be kissing harris backside if we do swansea next week the sad thing is the QPR result has been coming all season I didnt want harris in but what's he supposed to do with the crap warnock's left him the team has next to no quality we got a defence with zero pace a midfield well let's be said and our strikers lol only time we look a threat is when tomlin plays other than that we are a poor side as sad as that is to say it's the truth

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:48 pm

eddiep wrote:No.

Awful football
Wasted money
No youth
No pace
Unsustainable.


This with knobs on.

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:55 pm

In A Heartbeat. It Was A Bit Of A Shame How He Left Us Because He Deserved A Good Send Off.

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:56 pm

No for me....wasn’t the same manager after the Sala stuff....did a great job but his time came to an end.
Interesting that he hasn’t jumped into another job yet .

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:55 pm

He is welcome back; with a clean slate. Meaning he has to refund all of his shocking waste of money signings that have not moved the club forward one little bit.

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:30 pm

Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:He is welcome back; with a clean slate. Meaning he has to refund all of his shocking waste of money signings that have not moved the club forward one little bit.


You were about last two seasons weren’t you?

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:57 pm

maccydee wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:He is welcome back; with a clean slate. Meaning he has to refund all of his shocking waste of money signings that have not moved the club forward one little bit.


You were about last two seasons weren’t you?


We can definitely go back to January 2019 and Bacuna and Niasse. I'd like Niasse loan fee and wages back. Then summer 2019 window obviously speaks for itself.

I've said it before but will we recoup any money for any of his signings? We haven't got anything back yet for Reid and I'm not sure anyone he signed for money is worth anything to any other club.

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:39 am

Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:He is welcome back; with a clean slate. Meaning he has to refund all of his shocking waste of money signings that have not moved the club forward one little bit.


You were about last two seasons weren’t you?


We can definitely go back to January 2019 and Bacuna and Niasse. I'd like Niasse loan fee and wages back. Then summer 2019 window obviously speaks for itself.

I've said it before but will we recoup any money for any of his signings? We haven't got anything back yet for Reid and I'm not sure anyone he signed for money is worth anything to any other club.



yes you have said it before. was a bit ill thought out then as it is now..
the value is playing.. and they do play.... as for sell on value its secondary to playing and you just do not know. people said we wouldn't recoup the reid money.. nobody thought we would get 8 mill for zohore
we lost 6 regular players plus sol long term injured... what do you suggest ? we didnt need players or what..yes id have liked messi too.

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:58 am

The title of this thread is ridiculous, it’s his squad , his players, and his tactics this mostly underachieving , slow, disjointed, bloated, unimaginative, overpaid squad that he assembled are drilled into playing. And now due to his reckless spending the new man has allegedly nothing to spend on trying to put it right. He has left a poisoned chalice. The last 12 months of his reign have damaged our club and taken us backwards, we are swimming upstream for some time ahead it seems. It could get worse before it gets better, and sadly we are all experienced in being exposed to that, tolerance testing times ahead once again. But hey, I’ll be there. :ayatollah:

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:23 am

tangledupinblue wrote:The title of this thread is ridiculous, it’s his squad , his players, and his tactics this mostly underachieving , slow, disjointed, bloated, unimaginative, overpaid squad that he assembled are drilled into playing. And now due to his reckless spending the new man has allegedly nothing to spend on trying to put it right. He has left a poisoned chalice. The last 12 months of his reign have damaged our club and taken us backwards, we are swimming upstream for some time ahead it seems. It could get worse before it gets better, and sadly we are all experienced in being exposed to that, tolerance testing times ahead once again. But hey, I’ll be there. :ayatollah:




reckless ? ...most are having game time playing for a different manager. which is the point of having footballers. try comparing with other clubs transfer business, which I know you haven't because your saying this nonsense..
and how can being in the premier league earning all that TV money be damaging the club ? how much of that then gets spent or gets spent in the future is not down to the manager or future managers..
we didn't spend nearly enough going up..
and the budget wasn't nearly big enough to adequately replace the 6 we lost plus cover for Sol coming down..
if you want to blame Warnock for not getting messi for 6 mill carry on but its nonsense..

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:31 am

Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:He is welcome back; with a clean slate. Meaning he has to refund all of his shocking waste of money signings that have not moved the club forward one little bit.


You were about last two seasons weren’t you?


We can definitely go back to January 2019 and Bacuna and Niasse. I'd like Niasse loan fee and wages back. Then summer 2019 window obviously speaks for itself.

I've said it before but will we recoup any money for any of his signings? We haven't got anything back yet for Reid and I'm not sure anyone he signed for money is worth anything to any other club.


Niasse did a job for us. Some of our best performances were with him up front.

He did lose all confidence at the very end but he offered us something we didn’t have before.

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:44 am

maccydee wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:He is welcome back; with a clean slate. Meaning he has to refund all of his shocking waste of money signings that have not moved the club forward one little bit.


You were about last two seasons weren’t you?


We can definitely go back to January 2019 and Bacuna and Niasse. I'd like Niasse loan fee and wages back. Then summer 2019 window obviously speaks for itself.

I've said it before but will we recoup any money for any of his signings? We haven't got anything back yet for Reid and I'm not sure anyone he signed for money is worth anything to any other club.


Niasse did a job for us. Some of our best performances were with him up front.

He did lose all confidence at the very end but he offered us something we didn’t have before.



prior to signing Niasse there were half a dozen Niasse threads on here all very positive and mostly people saying we should sign him and he would be an asset..
having signed him it remained positive towards him initially. the threads are there to be seen.

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:06 pm

All those on here shouting Warnocks corner and defending him are all quoting examples from over 12 months ago. That says it all, no mention of what’s happened under his tenure since relegation. We deserved to be relegated, a change of manager last winter may well have seen a fresh impetus , new ideas and may have seen us kept up. I don’t think it would have been any worse. I struggle to find one Warnock signing, that I can really say I enjoyed watching or excited me. And certainly since he took over and particularly in the last year as a team. It was the right decision for him to go, should have been done sooner, and has left us with a very average bloated squad. Which is why raising the question for a return is ridiculous.

Reserve keeper Smithies on 30k???
Over approx 40 million spent on Reid, Murphy, Madine, Flint, Glatzel.
What do do with Callum Paterson
Send Reid and Cunningham out on loan
Blind to the lack of pace in the back 4 and midfield
Failure to revert to a plan B or C formation

Can you honestly say your a fan of Warnocks footballing style?? Week after week watching the other team have twice as much of the ball? Creativity, pace, flair was not part of the Warnock way.

And you want this man to return? It’s not a question of what he did in his first 12 months. That’s backwards loyalty. when was the last time a Cardiff City player or group of players excited you , that you really looked forward to watching play? Dave Jones signings. I am only interested in the now and the future of our club, I want to enjoy the way we play again, I want players exciting me. It never happened under Warnock, and as the fir the sell on value of the crop he left? Do me a favour. Can we stop living in the past and bickering about a past tense manager and focus on looking forward regrouping and trying to work with the poor squad and the lack of funds his stint as manager has left us with

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:33 pm

dogfound wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:He is welcome back; with a clean slate. Meaning he has to refund all of his shocking waste of money signings that have not moved the club forward one little bit.


You were about last two seasons weren’t you?


We can definitely go back to January 2019 and Bacuna and Niasse. I'd like Niasse loan fee and wages back. Then summer 2019 window obviously speaks for itself.

I've said it before but will we recoup any money for any of his signings? We haven't got anything back yet for Reid and I'm not sure anyone he signed for money is worth anything to any other club.


Niasse did a job for us. Some of our best performances were with him up front.

He did lose all confidence at the very end but he offered us something we didn’t have before.



prior to signing Niasse there were half a dozen Niasse threads on here all very positive and mostly people saying we should sign him and he would be an asset..
having signed him it remained positive towards him initially. the threads are there to be seen.


We suddenly started playing with him up top. Playing better away especially.

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:07 pm

No

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:28 pm

A manager who assembled this squad who couldnt get the best out of this squad to return and do what with this squad exatly .

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:29 pm

maccydee wrote:
dogfound wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:He is welcome back; with a clean slate. Meaning he has to refund all of his shocking waste of money signings that have not moved the club forward one little bit.


You were about last two seasons weren’t you?


We can definitely go back to January 2019 and Bacuna and Niasse. I'd like Niasse loan fee and wages back. Then summer 2019 window obviously speaks for itself.

I've said it before but will we recoup any money for any of his signings? We haven't got anything back yet for Reid and I'm not sure anyone he signed for money is worth anything to any other club.


Niasse did a job for us. Some of our best performances were with him up front.

He did lose all confidence at the very end but he offered us something we didn’t have before.



prior to signing Niasse there were half a dozen Niasse threads on here all very positive and mostly people saying we should sign him and he would be an asset..
having signed him it remained positive towards him initially. the threads are there to be seen.


We suddenly started playing with him up top. Playing better away especially.

Lol and look where that got us we still got relegated and niasse did he score once and did he even look like scoring no awful signing

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:32 pm

maccydee wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:He is welcome back; with a clean slate. Meaning he has to refund all of his shocking waste of money signings that have not moved the club forward one little bit.


You were about last two seasons weren’t you?


We can definitely go back to January 2019 and Bacuna and Niasse. I'd like Niasse loan fee and wages back. Then summer 2019 window obviously speaks for itself.

I've said it before but will we recoup any money for any of his signings? We haven't got anything back yet for Reid and I'm not sure anyone he signed for money is worth anything to any other club.


Niasse did a job for us. Some of our best performances were with him up front.

He did lose all confidence at the very end but he offered us something we didn’t have before.

Offered something we didnt have before we had enough strikers not scoring not performing niasse added to that stat so what on earth did he offer different then

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:41 pm

Sam ReaN wrote:In A Heartbeat. It Was A Bit Of A Shame How He Left Us Because He Deserved A Good Send Off.

He would have had a good send off at old Trafford winning there and leaving but no between the board and the signings warnock made warnock not getting the best out of the team now harris is stuck with the team warnock left him defence no pace midfield less said strikers who less face it not good enough only time team look good is when tomlin plays when he dont we look worse than awful but yet some people still calling for warnock to come back the man could have left at old Trafford head held high but another few months and now look at state of team we got the sad thing is bamba is prob the quickest defender we have

Re: Would you take Warnock back?

Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:13 pm

Chippy82 wrote:
Sam ReaN wrote:In A Heartbeat. It Was A Bit Of A Shame How He Left Us Because He Deserved A Good Send Off.

He would have had a good send off at old Trafford winning there and leaving but no between the board and the signings warnock made warnock not getting the best out of the team now harris is stuck with the team warnock left him defence no pace midfield less said strikers who less face it not good enough only time team look good is when tomlin plays when he dont we look worse than awful but yet some people still calling for warnock to come back the man could have left at old Trafford head held high but another few months and now look at state of team we got the sad thing is bamba is prob the quickest defender we have


agree he's the reason we are where we are, regardless of what he achieved with us two years ago. I respect those who have said yes but what do you expect different this is his team he signed these players and failed first time?