Can everyone stop this "Drop Etheridge" rubbish

Smithies for me - thought he was unlucky to be dropped as started to look a decent keeper once he got some games under his belt.

People talk about the positioning of Etheridge and how he positions himself well - Bristol City if you watch the goal back he is nearly at his six yard line with the ball outside the box - to far from the line in that situation - that’s just one example - on the lone he saves it

His kicking and distribution is poor and you have to remember when we don’t have the ball much retention is vital as you keep inviting pressure back on you - whilst his poor distribution might not directly lead to the goal no rest bite for the defenders will increase errors.

I don’t hound a player I just give my opinion good or bad and how I see it

You should watch the goal again as he was 3 yards off his line and the ball was deflected off Flint and took a massive deflection. Again another great strike imo and it dipped massively.

Ridiculous post this.. people telling others not to have an opinion because it differs to theirs.

What’s this place for?

well he is our 1st choice keeper a big part of our promotion season and doesn't half get a slaughtering for doing very little wrong....
the thread showcases arguments that are incredibly unfair mate...and not football based tbh..
take a look at that jed Wallace free kick...if one of ours scored that everyone would be jumping around for 5 mins...if the goal had been scored by bale or Ronaldo in the champions lge 20 million people would be aghast in front of their TVS...the goal was described as unstoppable. spectacular. a stunning strike. and unbelievable by various media and the 2 managers... but a goalkeeping error by these 2 ..?
the criticism has been not been fair ..the comparison not level. and today some jaw dropping comments made about positioning ..these are not realistic criticisms …... by some miracle the player chooses the other corner ffs...really ?

You just dont like it when people opinion differs from yours.

No he was not at fault for the goal and he probably wouldnt have saved it anyway it was a great free kick. That does not change the fact he was still in a poor starting position . He had to sprint across his goal ffs. That was poor goalkeeping by any standards.

You have to look at everything about the goal not just the strike, the point is it has happened a few times and he really should be better. His positioning and shot stopping was always very good but hes gone backwards this season.

The free kick was a worldie imo and just about unstoppable though I guess you will say different.
Your point about Etheridge being in a poor position is totally wrong as the wall is set to his left and he takes the right to the middle position. I'm sure the coaching manuel's tell you this but you still choose to have a pop and not to tip your cap and say it was a world class strike as many in the ground said.
You will tell us next Madine is our number one centre forward and Glatzel is rubbish.

Anyway you have your opinion but I feel it's more of a dig of our number one keeper

No one is saying strike wasnt brilliant but from where ball was positioned and the wall placed that ball was only going one place and that's where it went ! So if thats case why was Etheridge so far opposite side goal that he couldn't get anywhere near the ball? And if you think being harsh Iused to play in goal and said at time ball was going where it went ! So why couldn't Etheridge see that?

Smithies for me - thought he was unlucky to be dropped as started to look a decent keeper once he got some games under his belt.

People talk about the positioning of Etheridge and how he positions himself well - Bristol City if you watch the goal back he is nearly at his six yard line with the ball outside the box - to far from the line in that situation - that’s just one example - on the lone he saves it

His kicking and distribution is poor and you have to remember when we don’t have the ball much retention is vital as you keep inviting pressure back on you - whilst his poor distribution might not directly lead to the goal no rest bite for the defenders will increase errors.

I don’t hound a player I just give my opinion good or bad and how I see it

You should watch the goal again as he was 3 yards off his line and the ball was deflected off Flint and took a massive deflection. Again another great strike imo and it dipped massively.

mate its not about what actually happens. its about how they see it.. 6 yards can be 3 and vice versa... stats don't count reality doesn't count only their preconceived view counts... you can not debate with people who compare a really top of the range goal and a massive deflection with 3 savable shots at WBA which i only put up as an explanation as to why he got left out.
for me the worse thing about this is if Etheridge were to have a poor game it would be meltdown ...possibly resulting in a Smithies recall, who is then under the microscope himself...not good for Cardiff.

Ridiculous post this.. people telling others not to have an opinion because it differs to theirs.

What’s this place for?

well he is our 1st choice keeper a big part of our promotion season and doesn't half get a slaughtering for doing very little wrong....
the thread showcases arguments that are incredibly unfair mate...and not football based tbh..
take a look at that jed Wallace free kick...if one of ours scored that everyone would be jumping around for 5 mins...if the goal had been scored by bale or Ronaldo in the champions lge 20 million people would be aghast in front of their TVS...the goal was described as unstoppable. spectacular. a stunning strike. and unbelievable by various media and the 2 managers... but a goalkeeping error by these 2 ..?
the criticism has been not been fair ..the comparison not level. and today some jaw dropping comments made about positioning ..these are not realistic criticisms …... by some miracle the player chooses the other corner ffs...really ?

You just dont like it when people opinion differs from yours.

No he was not at fault for the goal and he probably wouldnt have saved it anyway it was a great free kick. That does not change the fact he was still in a poor starting position . He had to sprint across his goal ffs. That was poor goalkeeping by any standards.

You have to look at everything about the goal not just the strike, the point is it has happened a few times and he really should be better. His positioning and shot stopping was always very good but hes gone backwards this season.

The free kick was a worldie imo and just about unstoppable though I guess you will say different.
Your point about Etheridge being in a poor position is totally wrong as the wall is set to his left and he takes the right to the middle position. I'm sure the coaching manuel's tell you this but you still choose to have a pop and not to tip your cap and say it was a world class strike as many in the ground said.
You will tell us next Madine is our number one centre forward and Glatzel is rubbish.

Anyway you have your opinion but I feel it's more of a dig of our number one keeper

No one is saying strike wasnt brilliant but from where ball was positioned and the wall placed that ball was only going one place and that's where it went ! So if thats case why was Etheridge so far opposite side goal that he couldn't get anywhere near the ball? And if you think being harsh Iused to play in goal and said at time ball was going where it went ! So why couldn't Etheridge see that?

your talking rubbish..its not harsh its rubbish....
i cant begin to imagine the team you played for

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It's because the coaching manuel tells the keeper not to stand behind the wall I guess and if he did then Wallace may have put it the other side. If you played and stood behind the wall then I guess it's why you were in goals Al.
Anyway imo it was a worldie and I couldn't point the finger at the keeper

Ridiculous post this.. people telling others not to have an opinion because it differs to theirs.

What’s this place for?

well he is our 1st choice keeper a big part of our promotion season and doesn't half get a slaughtering for doing very little wrong....
the thread showcases arguments that are incredibly unfair mate...and not football based tbh..
take a look at that jed Wallace free kick...if one of ours scored that everyone would be jumping around for 5 mins...if the goal had been scored by bale or Ronaldo in the champions lge 20 million people would be aghast in front of their TVS...the goal was described as unstoppable. spectacular. a stunning strike. and unbelievable by various media and the 2 managers... but a goalkeeping error by these 2 ..?
the criticism has been not been fair ..the comparison not level. and today some jaw dropping comments made about positioning ..these are not realistic criticisms …... by some miracle the player chooses the other corner ffs...really ?

You just dont like it when people opinion differs from yours.

No he was not at fault for the goal and he probably wouldnt have saved it anyway it was a great free kick. That does not change the fact he was still in a poor starting position . He had to sprint across his goal ffs. That was poor goalkeeping by any standards.

You have to look at everything about the goal not just the strike, the point is it has happened a few times and he really should be better. His positioning and shot stopping was always very good but hes gone backwards this season.

The free kick was a worldie imo and just about unstoppable though I guess you will say different.
Your point about Etheridge being in a poor position is totally wrong as the wall is set to his left and he takes the right to the middle position. I'm sure the coaching manuel's tell you this but you still choose to have a pop and not to tip your cap and say it was a world class strike as many in the ground said.
You will tell us next Madine is our number one centre forward and Glatzel is rubbish.

Anyway you have your opinion but I feel it's more of a dig of our number one keeper

No one is saying strike wasnt brilliant but from where ball was positioned and the wall placed that ball was only going one place and that's where it went ! So if thats case why was Etheridge so far opposite side goal that he couldn't get anywhere near the ball? And if you think being harsh Iused to play in goal and said at time ball was going where it went ! So why couldn't Etheridge see that?

your talking rubbish..its not harsh its rubbish....
i cant begin to imagine the team you played for

crap sides in Cardiff as played for the fun of it ! And no wasnt crap keeper played from age of 11 for school and continued through youth club and local sides in Cardiff on wed sat and Sunday, and in several parts of uk for better clubs for about 30yrs..... as for talking rubbish others have same opinion as me ? so whose talking rubbish us or you and the others with same opion?.

Al, it's all opinion but one question to you as you were a keeper for 30 years, that free kick, where would you have stood ?

He is 2/3 steps to far to his right he had no chance of getting to the left hand post. He may as well not have been in goal.

Given that it was a great strike to find the top corner.

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Al, it's all opinion but one question to you as you were a keeper for 30 years, that free kick, where would you have stood ?

Well for start the wall would have been further across and I would have been bit more to side ball went ! Because their player was always going for that corner of goal that's what I'd have done ? you asked so thats my view... like said brilliantly placed kick no question ... just questioning Etheridge positioning like others have done in previous games it's not just about this game it's more about his general positioning, Brentford goal and same type goal at home near post beaten several times that way and other situations throughout season....

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Is there any real need for a wall with a free kick that far out?

Is there any real need for a wall with a free kick that far out?

Possibly not? 2 man wall could have been sufficient and that would have given him better view and allowed him to be in better position , wouldn't be 1st time only 2 man wall for free kick for that situation ..

He is 2/3 steps to far to his right he had no chance of getting to the left hand post. He may as well not have been in goal.

Given that it was a great strike to find the top corner.

well you do have to see the ball is the answer and it really isn't 2/3 steps either....
being critical of this goal is ridiculous. even if he was a yard to far one way { which i don't think he was } you see far far worse every single weekend...
had he stood behind the wall it would have been why is he stood behind the wall unsighted. to move to his left post to where he could see he would have been on the post itself with the whole goals open...
for me the only real argument would be do you need a wall from that distance as claw said...its been much debated throughout the game for years and no doubt at our club with the GK coaches..

I think we should sell either Etheridge or Smithies depending on who gives us our valuation of one of these players, both are excellent Championship keepers but we don’t need both. Similarly with Morrison and Flint, they are very similar top Championship players but can’t play together. If we sold two of these players we could replace them with a midfielder and a striker. Two of our strikers need releasing, Bogle and Vassel/ Madine? Murphy? again if we again get right Price!

Ridiculous post this.. people telling others not to have an opinion because it differs to theirs.

What’s this place for?

well he is our 1st choice keeper a big part of our promotion season and doesn't half get a slaughtering for doing very little wrong....
the thread showcases arguments that are incredibly unfair mate...and not football based tbh..
take a look at that jed Wallace free kick...if one of ours scored that everyone would be jumping around for 5 mins...if the goal had been scored by bale or Ronaldo in the champions lge 20 million people would be aghast in front of their TVS...the goal was described as unstoppable. spectacular. a stunning strike. and unbelievable by various media and the 2 managers... but a goalkeeping error by these 2 ..?
the criticism has been not been fair ..the comparison not level. and today some jaw dropping comments made about positioning ..these are not realistic criticisms …... by some miracle the player chooses the other corner ffs...really ?

You just dont like it when people opinion differs from yours.

No he was not at fault for the goal and he probably wouldnt have saved it anyway it was a great free kick. That does not change the fact he was still in a poor starting position . He had to sprint across his goal ffs. That was poor goalkeeping by any standards.

You have to look at everything about the goal not just the strike, the point is it has happened a few times and he really should be better. His positioning and shot stopping was always very good but hes gone backwards this season.

The free kick was a worldie imo and just about unstoppable though I guess you will say different.
Your point about Etheridge being in a poor position is totally wrong as the wall is set to his left and he takes the right to the middle position. I'm sure the coaching manuel's tell you this but you still choose to have a pop and not to tip your cap and say it was a world class strike as many in the ground said.
You will tell us next Madine is our number one centre forward and Glatzel is rubbish.

Anyway you have your opinion but I feel it's more of a dig of our number one keeper

No one is saying strike wasnt brilliant but from where ball was positioned and the wall placed that ball was only going one place and that's where it went ! So if thats case why was Etheridge so far opposite side goal that he couldn't get anywhere near the ball? And if you think being harsh Iused to play in goal and said at time ball was going where it went ! So why couldn't Etheridge see that?

your talking rubbish..its not harsh its rubbish....
i cant begin to imagine the team you played for

crap sides in Cardiff as played for the fun of it ! And no wasnt crap keeper played from age of 11 for school and continued through youth club and local sides in Cardiff on wed sat and Sunday, and in several parts of uk for better clubs for about 30yrs..... as for talking rubbish others have same opinion as me ? so whose talking rubbish us or you and the others with same opion?.

you are..,,,i agree with the stats the coaches the managers and the football world in general.
and seriously you played in goals but would stand directly behind a wall after 30 years ?. it is rubbish..