NEIL HARRIS BEING COMPARED TO RUSSELL SLADE?

Totally different set up for him to NH! slade was brought in to stabilise team and to cut costs which he did and of course got us much closer to playoffs than expected! NH has got no such mandate in fact has he got any mandate? He has been left with a big under performing squad use to playing kick and rush football which he as got to change on both counts, but he'll need couple of windows to get in players to change way we play and bit time to see if any youngsters can make step up! It is not going to be a quick fix thats for sure.

and there was me thinking OGS failed but apparently nobody expected to even get to 8th....waw

no mate OGS failed slade failed by a bigger margin..one hell of a squad and made us look like Grimsby..

I agree with everyone ,it's rubbish ,

Slade gets a lot of stick but although his football at times was dull the stuff trotted out by Harris is consistently dire.

The real issue here though is surely the decision makers; people with little football knowledge.

Nigel Pearson was available wasn’t he?

What does Harris have which got the support of those in the boardroom?

Slade gets a lot of stick but although his football at times was dull the stuff trotted out by Harris is consistently dire.

The real issue here though is surely the decision makers; people with little football knowledge.

Nigel Pearson was available wasn’t he?

What does Harris have which got the support of those in the boardroom?

Why would Pearson join a mid table struggling Championship side????

What I find rather sad is the spirit of togetherness even as we were related seems to have evaporated largely due to our club appointment of an unknown man after the charismatic presence of Warnock,we needed a manager with a bit of form or a bigger name maybe Houghton someone like that .
Maybe we are being churlish after just 8 games who knows,I think I agree with the poster who said next Oct Harris s job will be under threat ,.

Harris left Millwall. Millwall. Who they? His interview pitch was either awesome or the board wanted a cheap option. His pitch could not have been awesome...he's achieved nothing as a manager. Vision, belief. Nah.

Saved Millwall from almodt nailed on relegation from league one.

Got them to play ay off finals twice and promoted second time.

Beat 3 Premier league teams in FA Cup run.

Finished mid table Championship with smallest budget out of all the clubs

Yeah achieved nothing ha ha.

I take yr point but it just seems disappointing

Fair one. Merely meant he's hardly an inspirational managerial appointment

Harris left Millwall. Millwall. Who they? His interview pitch was either awesome or the board wanted a cheap option. His pitch could not have been awesome...he's achieved nothing as a manager. Vision, belief. Nah.

Saved Millwall from almodt nailed on relegation from league one.

Got them to play ay off finals twice and promoted second time.

Beat 3 Premier league teams in FA Cup run.

Finished mid table Championship with smallest budget out of all the clubs

Yeah achieved nothing ha ha.

So in terms of actual achievements, he got 1 promotion from league 1... hardly a glowing CV for a club supposedly looking to get back to the Premier league at the first attempt.

Might as well have got Dave Jones back...1 FA Cup final, 1 Play off final, made the play offs on another occasion and at least played decent football.

In the meantime there were managers out of work who had actually achieved promotion from this league. Maybe they wouldn’t have come...but given how quickly MD said they were ready to make the appointment, it’s hard to believe they were even considered.

I don’t blame Harris...why wouldn’t you take this job if offered it. The blame has to sit squarely with the board for making a complete mess of the opportunity in front of them as far back as the summer.

Harris left Millwall. Millwall. Who they? His interview pitch was either awesome or the board wanted a cheap option. His pitch could not have been awesome...he's achieved nothing as a manager. Vision, belief. Nah.

Saved Millwall from almodt nailed on relegation from league one.

Got them to play ay off finals twice and promoted second time.

Beat 3 Premier league teams in FA Cup run.

Finished mid table Championship with smallest budget out of all the clubs

Yeah achieved nothing ha ha.

So in terms of actual achievements, he got 1 promotion from league 1... hardly a glowing CV for a club supposedly looking to get back to the Premier league at the first attempt.

Might as well have got Dave Jones back...1 FA Cup final, 1 Play off final, made the play offs on another occasion and at least played decent football.

In the meantime there were managers out of work who had actually achieved promotion from this league. Maybe they wouldn’t have come...but given how quickly MD said they were ready to make the appointment, it’s hard to believe they were even considered.

I don’t blame Harris...why wouldn’t you take this job if offered it. The blame has to sit squarely with the board for making a complete mess of the opportunity in front of them as far back as the summer.

What manager bigger than Harris would have taken on a mid table struggling cardiff city??

Like a poster mentioned Pearson above, he wouldn't even look at us. People need to wake up. We are Cardiff city.

To condemn a guy 8 games in with 1 loss and no window to buy and i think 8 first team injuries is frankly ridiculous.

The big managers you want all started somewhere

Leave Millwall. Mediocre. Few weeks break. Storm interview with us.What?

Our board won’t pay a better Manager to come.. wasn’t Houghton on £5m a year at Brighton. Then you have to back him.
If you want a Wolves comparison, you first have to get a Wolves type board.

Harris left Millwall. Millwall. Who they? His interview pitch was either awesome or the board wanted a cheap option. His pitch could not have been awesome...he's achieved nothing as a manager. Vision, belief. Nah.

A lot of managers achieve nothing and get a job is that so unusual? So promotion is nothing?

Harris left Millwall. Millwall. Who they? His interview pitch was either awesome or the board wanted a cheap option. His pitch could not have been awesome...he's achieved nothing as a manager. Vision, belief. Nah.

Saved Millwall from almodt nailed on relegation from league one.

Got them to play ay off finals twice and promoted second time.

Beat 3 Premier league teams in FA Cup run.

Finished mid table Championship with smallest budget out of all the clubs

Yeah achieved nothing ha ha.

So in terms of actual achievements, he got 1 promotion from league 1... hardly a glowing CV for a club supposedly looking to get back to the Premier league at the first attempt.

Might as well have got Dave Jones back...1 FA Cup final, 1 Play off final, made the play offs on another occasion and at least played decent football.

In the meantime there were managers out of work who had actually achieved promotion from this league. Maybe they wouldn’t have come...but given how quickly MD said they were ready to make the appointment, it’s hard to believe they were even considered.

I don’t blame Harris...why wouldn’t you take this job if offered it. The blame has to sit squarely with the board for making a complete mess of the opportunity in front of them as far back as the summer.

What manager bigger than Harris would have taken on a mid table struggling cardiff city??

Like a poster mentioned Pearson above, he wouldn't even look at us. People need to wake up. We are Cardiff city.

To condemn a guy 8 games in with 1 loss and no window to buy and i think 8 first team injuries is frankly ridiculous.

Are you serious? What manager bigger than Harris? We are a team that just missed out on staying up - if VAR had been around last season, we may well have stayed up. We were mid table but within 5/6 points of 3rd with a squad that could/should be doing better and crowds bigger than many teams in this league or the Premier League...we are an attractive enough proposition for managers who have been out of work but have better credentials or at least ones that the board stated they were looking for.

As I said, I don’t blame Harris for taking the job but the board have buggered this up. However, I do think Harris is full of rhetoric and will be surprised if we are any better off in 6 months time...he might have had injuries to contend with, but what manager doesn’t.


The big managers you want all started somewhere

Slade gets a lot of stick but although his football at times was dull the stuff trotted out by Harris is consistently dire.

The real issue here though is surely the decision makers; people with little football knowledge.

Nigel Pearson was available wasn’t he?

What does Harris have which got the support of those in the boardroom?

Why would Pearson join a mid table struggling Championship side????

My point I thought was pretty obvious. He amongst others appears not to have been approached or considered.

I reiterate my averment (implicit if it wasn’t understood) that Harris was a risk averse, cheap, uninspired choice made when the club should have been more ambitious, and if necessary hold out for an experienced manager in the vein of the two who currently occupy positions 1 and 2 in the league or someone more unknown but more enticing such as the one in charge of the team currently 3rd.

Oh and as for Pearson why wouldn’t he be attracted to a club who were in the PL last season and potentially could get into the top 6?

Club only has itself to blame when it comes to ST renewal. 18,000 this year, average 31000 last. Time to run the club properly isn’t it? Look at wolves now for example.....

Spot On

Harris left Millwall. Millwall. Who they? His interview pitch was either awesome or the board wanted a cheap option. His pitch could not have been awesome...he's achieved nothing as a manager. Vision, belief. Nah.

Saved Millwall from almodt nailed on relegation from league one.

Got them to play ay off finals twice and promoted second time.

Beat 3 Premier league teams in FA Cup run.

Finished mid table Championship with smallest budget out of all the clubs

Yeah achieved nothing ha ha.

So in terms of actual achievements, he got 1 promotion from league 1... hardly a glowing CV for a club supposedly looking to get back to the Premier league at the first attempt.

Might as well have got Dave Jones back...1 FA Cup final, 1 Play off final, made the play offs on another occasion and at least played decent football.

In the meantime there were managers out of work who had actually achieved promotion from this league. Maybe they wouldn’t have come...but given how quickly MD said they were ready to make the appointment, it’s hard to believe they were even considered.

I don’t blame Harris...why wouldn’t you take this job if offered it. The blame has to sit squarely with the board for making a complete mess of the opportunity in front of them as far back as the summer.

What manager bigger than Harris would have taken on a mid table struggling cardiff city??

Like a poster mentioned Pearson above, he wouldn't even look at us. People need to wake up. We are Cardiff city.

To condemn a guy 8 games in with 1 loss and no window to buy and i think 8 first team injuries is frankly ridiculous.

Are you serious? What manager bigger than Harris? We are a team that just missed out on staying up - if VAR had been around last season, we may well have stayed up. We were mid table but within 5/6 points of 3rd with a squad that could/should be doing better and crowds bigger than many teams in this league or the Premier League...we are an attractive enough proposition for managers who have been out of work but have better credentials or at least ones that the board stated they were looking for.

As I said, I don’t blame Harris for taking the job but the board have buggered this up. However, I do think Harris is full of rhetoric and will be surprised if we are any better off in 6 months time...he might have had injuries to contend with, but what manager doesn’t.


The big managers you want all started somewhere

8 points off relegation when he joined us too.

As for your claim if VAR had been around we'd have stayed up its laughable l, to claim that I'll assume you've looked at every single game?? Brighton may have finished with an extra 6 poi ts if VAR had been around.

Who has better credentials that would be a serious option for Cardiff in the Championship because in all your posts you've not named one

Harris left Millwall. Millwall. Who they? His interview pitch was either awesome or the board wanted a cheap option. His pitch could not have been awesome...he's achieved nothing as a manager. Vision, belief. Nah.

Saved Millwall from almodt nailed on relegation from league one.

Got them to play ay off finals twice and promoted second time.

Beat 3 Premier league teams in FA Cup run.

Finished mid table Championship with smallest budget out of all the clubs

Yeah achieved nothing ha ha.

pretty sure he got relegated with Millwall, not from lge1 but the championship 10 points from 10- games..
followed that up with 2 play off seasons...which in all honesty youd expect a relegated club to be achieving ?
but I don't think its results are the issue its how dire the games are...

Harris left Millwall. Millwall. Who they? His interview pitch was either awesome or the board wanted a cheap option. His pitch could not have been awesome...he's achieved nothing as a manager. Vision, belief. Nah.

A lot of managers achieve nothing and get a job is that so unusual? So promotion is nothing?

Russell Slade being an example of someone who had achieved nothing and got a job on a regular basis.

Yet despite the supposedly good job he did with us have any other Championship clubs felt that he was the man they need for a promotion push or to save them from relegation?

Harris left Millwall. Millwall. Who they? His interview pitch was either awesome or the board wanted a cheap option. His pitch could not have been awesome...he's achieved nothing as a manager. Vision, belief. Nah.

A lot of managers achieve nothing and get a job is that so unusual? So promotion is nothing?

Russell Slade being an example of someone who had achieved nothing and got a job on a regular basis.

Yet despite the supposedly good job he did with us have any other Championship clubs felt that he was the man they need for a promotion push or to save them from relegation?

Not likely b thought he was a number two normally?

Harris left Millwall. Millwall. Who they? His interview pitch was either awesome or the board wanted a cheap option. His pitch could not have been awesome...he's achieved nothing as a manager. Vision, belief. Nah.

Saved Millwall from almodt nailed on relegation from league one.

Got them to play ay off finals twice and promoted second time.

Beat 3 Premier league teams in FA Cup run.

Finished mid table Championship with smallest budget out of all the clubs

Yeah achieved nothing ha ha.

So in terms of actual achievements, he got 1 promotion from league 1... hardly a glowing CV for a club supposedly looking to get back to the Premier league at the first attempt.

Might as well have got Dave Jones back...1 FA Cup final, 1 Play off final, made the play offs on another occasion and at least played decent football.

In the meantime there were managers out of work who had actually achieved promotion from this league. Maybe they wouldn’t have come...but given how quickly MD said they were ready to make the appointment, it’s hard to believe they were even considered.

I don’t blame Harris...why wouldn’t you take this job if offered it. The blame has to sit squarely with the board for making a complete mess of the opportunity in front of them as far back as the summer.

What manager bigger than Harris would have taken on a mid table struggling cardiff city??

Like a poster mentioned Pearson above, he wouldn't even look at us. People need to wake up. We are Cardiff city.

To condemn a guy 8 games in with 1 loss and no window to buy and i think 8 first team injuries is frankly ridiculous.

The big managers you want all started somewhere

this idea which is so often said is completely crazy..

MOST out of work managers want a job...it really is as simple as that. will Houghton , Pullis or Mark Hughes work again ? really you just do not know, and neither do they.. so a newly relegated championship club getting very decent crowds is interested ..what do they do, listen or wait for ed woodwards phone call.

this is a very decent club not the mickey mouse outfit your making it out to be.

Harris left Millwall. Millwall. Who they? His interview pitch was either awesome or the board wanted a cheap option. His pitch could not have been awesome...he's achieved nothing as a manager. Vision, belief. Nah.

Saved Millwall from almodt nailed on relegation from league one.

Got them to play ay off finals twice and promoted second time.

Beat 3 Premier league teams in FA Cup run.

Finished mid table Championship with smallest budget out of all the clubs

Yeah achieved nothing ha ha.

So in terms of actual achievements, he got 1 promotion from league 1... hardly a glowing CV for a club supposedly looking to get back to the Premier league at the first attempt.

Might as well have got Dave Jones back...1 FA Cup final, 1 Play off final, made the play offs on another occasion and at least played decent football.

In the meantime there were managers out of work who had actually achieved promotion from this league. Maybe they wouldn’t have come...but given how quickly MD said they were ready to make the appointment, it’s hard to believe they were even considered.

I don’t blame Harris...why wouldn’t you take this job if offered it. The blame has to sit squarely with the board for making a complete mess of the opportunity in front of them as far back as the summer.

What manager bigger than Harris would have taken on a mid table struggling cardiff city??

Like a poster mentioned Pearson above, he wouldn't even look at us. People need to wake up. We are Cardiff city.

To condemn a guy 8 games in with 1 loss and no window to buy and i think 8 first team injuries is frankly ridiculous.

The big managers you want all started somewhere

this idea which is so often said is completely crazy..

MOST out of work managers want a job...it really is as simple as that. will Houghton , Pullis or Mark Hughes work again ? really you just do not know, and neither do they.. so a newly relegated championship club getting very decent crowds is interested ..what do they do, listen or wait for ed woodwards phone call.

this is a very decent club not the mickey mouse outfit your making it out to be.

The guys you listed salaries aside got milion plus on getting sacked they don't need to work tomorrow so yes they can wait.

I've never said we are a mickey mouse outfit but some city fans need a reality check on how big a club we are.

Harris left Millwall. Millwall. Who they? His interview pitch was either awesome or the board wanted a cheap option. His pitch could not have been awesome...he's achieved nothing as a manager. Vision, belief. Nah.

Saved Millwall from almodt nailed on relegation from league one.

Got them to play ay off finals twice and promoted second time.

Beat 3 Premier league teams in FA Cup run.

Finished mid table Championship with smallest budget out of all the clubs

Yeah achieved nothing ha ha.

So in terms of actual achievements, he got 1 promotion from league 1... hardly a glowing CV for a club supposedly looking to get back to the Premier league at the first attempt.

Might as well have got Dave Jones back...1 FA Cup final, 1 Play off final, made the play offs on another occasion and at least played decent football.

In the meantime there were managers out of work who had actually achieved promotion from this league. Maybe they wouldn’t have come...but given how quickly MD said they were ready to make the appointment, it’s hard to believe they were even considered.

I don’t blame Harris...why wouldn’t you take this job if offered it. The blame has to sit squarely with the board for making a complete mess of the opportunity in front of them as far back as the summer.

What manager bigger than Harris would have taken on a mid table struggling cardiff city??

Like a poster mentioned Pearson above, he wouldn't even look at us. People need to wake up. We are Cardiff city.

To condemn a guy 8 games in with 1 loss and no window to buy and i think 8 first team injuries is frankly ridiculous.

The big managers you want all started somewhere

this idea which is so often said is completely crazy..

MOST out of work managers want a job...it really is as simple as that. will Houghton , Pullis or Mark Hughes work again ? really you just do not know, and neither do they.. so a newly relegated championship club getting very decent crowds is interested ..what do they do, listen or wait for ed woodwards phone call.

this is a very decent club not the mickey mouse outfit your making it out to be.

The guys you listed salaries aside got milion plus on getting sacked they don't need to work tomorrow so yes they can wait.

I've never said we are a mickey mouse outfit but some city fans need a reality check on how big a club we are.

yes they have millions...but seriously might not find another job..so if you've been around football all your life youre probably missing it...you only have to look at the TV panels.. these blokes don't need to be doing these gigs financially yet there they are travelling hundreds of miles to be a part of it again..
how big a club we are...…..well we should be able to look a bit further than an out of work ex Millwall manager..
Harris out of work
Warnock out of work...only stretched to NW because of the mess we were in..
Trolls promoted from within
Slade a lge 2 manager with 20 years experience of how not to get promoted..

we spend 10s of millions on players yet scrimp on THE most important man at the club... makes zero sense.

Slade came in at a time when Tan had clearly lost interest in the club and was happy to strip it back. Changing back to blue was to come at a price and it did. Given Slade’s remit he didn’t do too bad given that we were a mess. There were some exciting games during his tenure albeit a lot were dull and drab but that was the nature of the beast given the situation. The fact we had a realistic chance of the playoffs going into the last few games was not a bad feat. We certainly haven’t seen yet under Harris any performances to match the best performances under Slade.

Slade came in at a time when Tan had clearly lost interest in the club and was happy to strip it back. Changing back to blue was to come at a price and it did. Given Slade’s remit he didn’t do too bad given that we were a mess. There were some exciting games during his tenure albeit a lot were dull and drab but that was the nature of the beast given the situation. The fact we had a realistic chance of the playoffs going into the last few games was not a bad feat. We certainly haven’t seen yet under Harris any performances to match the best performances under Slade.

most were dull mate....which showed in how few were actually turning up even though they had a ticket...
I agree though in that we have seen nothing under this manager as of yet that's better.
early days though so fingers crossed we don't get 2 years worth a la slade..

One thing I was really surprised with was the speed in which the NH decision came about!! He was confirmed as manager before the media team could even prep an interview!!

What was the rush!! CCFC were mid table team going nowhere. Why not put Bamba as caretaker and do a thorough manager search!! Make sure our next manager was the very best option as for me this was huge for the club!!

From the outside it looked like the candidates who applied in the first week and we would go with one probs the cheapest!

The only other way would be if NH was head hunted whilst Warnock was still manager!!

Surely that cant be the case!! NH might come good hes only had the team for 8 weeks.

General feel, malky mackay & Warnock appointments excited me, Slade, trollope & Harris have all a very underwhelming feel about them.

Harris left Millwall. Millwall. Who they? His interview pitch was either awesome or the board wanted a cheap option. His pitch could not have been awesome...he's achieved nothing as a manager. Vision, belief. Nah.

Saved Millwall from almodt nailed on relegation from league one.

Got them to play ay off finals twice and promoted second time.

Beat 3 Premier league teams in FA Cup run.

Finished mid table Championship with smallest budget out of all the clubs

Yeah achieved nothing ha ha.

So in terms of actual achievements, he got 1 promotion from league 1... hardly a glowing CV for a club supposedly looking to get back to the Premier league at the first attempt.

Might as well have got Dave Jones back...1 FA Cup final, 1 Play off final, made the play offs on another occasion and at least played decent football.

In the meantime there were managers out of work who had actually achieved promotion from this league. Maybe they wouldn’t have come...but given how quickly MD said they were ready to make the appointment, it’s hard to believe they were even considered.

I don’t blame Harris...why wouldn’t you take this job if offered it. The blame has to sit squarely with the board for making a complete mess of the opportunity in front of them as far back as the summer.

What manager bigger than Harris would have taken on a mid table struggling cardiff city??

Like a poster mentioned Pearson above, he wouldn't even look at us. People need to wake up. We are Cardiff city.

To condemn a guy 8 games in with 1 loss and no window to buy and i think 8 first team injuries is frankly ridiculous.

Are you serious? What manager bigger than Harris? We are a team that just missed out on staying up - if VAR had been around last season, we may well have stayed up. We were mid table but within 5/6 points of 3rd with a squad that could/should be doing better and crowds bigger than many teams in this league or the Premier League...we are an attractive enough proposition for managers who have been out of work but have better credentials or at least ones that the board stated they were looking for.

As I said, I don’t blame Harris for taking the job but the board have buggered this up. However, I do think Harris is full of rhetoric and will be surprised if we are any better off in 6 months time...he might have had injuries to contend with, but what manager doesn’t.


The big managers you want all started somewhere

8 points off relegation when he joined us too.

As for your claim if VAR had been around we'd have stayed up its laughable l, to claim that I'll assume you've looked at every single game?? Brighton may have finished with an extra 6 poi ts if VAR had been around.

Who has better credentials that would be a serious option for Cardiff in the Championship because in all your posts you've not named one

Oh come on - are you just looking for an argument for the sake of it. VAR - I said we may well have stayed up, not that we would have. General opinion amongst fans and pundits is that we got very rough decisions on more than one occasion.

As for managers - surely I don’t need to spell it out, but I’ll humour you. Pearson, Hughton, ex Fulham guy all out of work managers who have achieved promotion out of this league at ‘modest’ clubs similar in stature to us and therefore surely at least worth consideration if the ambition is promotion from the Championship - however it appears none of them were. That to be honest is my beef with the whole situation...it appears to have been a tin pot recruitment approach with the role given to someone who’s credentials didn’t match what the club stated they wanted.

As you seem to hold the club in such low regard, my question to you is what you believe the short and mid term ambitions of the club should be and with a blank piece of paper who would have been the best person to deliver that?

Past 10 years ...
Fa cup finalists
League cup finalists
Play offs
2 promotions to PL

Parachute payment for this and next season ...
Only 6 or so points from play offs
18000-20000 crowd

Hardly an unattractive option for a manager looking to get back in the game imo .

A manager coming in doesn’t care about recent history... why would they?

Plus the FA cup was 2008 and we are almost in 2020