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Re: Racism in Italian Football

Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:05 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:The topic did drift but that happens. Initially i responded to somebody suggesting we evolved from monkeys. Which is Darwin's deeply irrational theory of evolution promoted by globalists with their roots in Communism. This theory (lie) has been very damaging and used to excuse all manner of immoral behaviour, turning us from spiritually men with morals into greedy "creatures" of rational self interest. If people want to be subtley stripped of an identity or morals in the name of Marxism that's fine. But i should be allowed to point out it's intellectual flaws. Which i did, probably badly but hey ho.
So why the hostility? People are hostile to Christianity because there's been a heavily funded campaign to promote Atheism & remove christianity from society. They're using the same anti Christian brain washing methods devised by Joeseph Stalin in Communist Russia. They're the same billionaire marxists funding all the subversive Anti Family movements that dominate our Government pressure groups and media today(LGBTQ, Mass Immigration, Radical Feminism, Antifa) All these groups are being USED by Neo-Communist billionaires to destroy our culture from within. Our society has been infiltrated, we're moving towards Communism.

Yesterday in America a Christian man was sentanced to 16 years prison for removing a rainbow flag from his Church doorway.

Yesterday in Britain, a grooming gang were sentenced to just 8 years for raping a 12 year old girl who had just lost her father and was very vulnerable. They will be out in FOUR years.

Wake up!

If you're an Atheist saying we aren't the result of a creator then that's an irrational position and you're playing into the hands of Neo Communists funding these movements. their sole purpose? destroy our moral base, while you defer critical thought to others and watch porn or other trivial distractions. Check this image from a Jewish Italian Communist named Antonio Gramsci. He is the God father of todays movements psychologically destroying the West.


The fact that there are numerous different religions with different Gods should be all you need to know that it isn’t real

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:11 pm

BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:The topic did drift but that happens. Initially i responded to somebody suggesting we evolved from monkeys. Which is Darwin's deeply irrational theory of evolution promoted by globalists with their roots in Communism. This theory (lie) has been very damaging and used to excuse all manner of immoral behaviour, turning us from spiritually men with morals into greedy "creatures" of rational self interest. If people want to be subtley stripped of an identity or morals in the name of Marxism that's fine. But i should be allowed to point out it's intellectual flaws. Which i did, probably badly but hey ho.
So why the hostility? People are hostile to Christianity because there's been a heavily funded campaign to promote Atheism & remove christianity from society. They're using the same anti Christian brain washing methods devised by Joeseph Stalin in Communist Russia. They're the same billionaire marxists funding all the subversive Anti Family movements that dominate our Government pressure groups and media today(LGBTQ, Mass Immigration, Radical Feminism, Antifa) All these groups are being USED by Neo-Communist billionaires to destroy our culture from within. Our society has been infiltrated, we're moving towards Communism.

Yesterday in America a Christian man was sentanced to 16 years prison for removing a rainbow flag from his Church doorway.

Yesterday in Britain, a grooming gang were sentenced to just 8 years for raping a 12 year old girl who had just lost her father and was very vulnerable. They will be out in FOUR years.

Wake up!

If you're an Atheist saying we aren't the result of a creator then that's an irrational position and you're playing into the hands of Neo Communists funding these movements. their sole purpose? destroy our moral base, while you defer critical thought to others and watch porn or other trivial distractions. Check this image from a Jewish Italian Communist named Antonio Gramsci. He is the God father of todays movements psychologically destroying the West.


The fact that there are numerous different religions with different Gods should be all you need to know that it isn’t real


They all believe in a creator.

There are thousands of different words for water. That doesn't mean water doesn't sustain life.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:24 pm

BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:The topic did drift but that happens. Initially i responded to somebody suggesting we evolved from monkeys. Which is Darwin's deeply irrational theory of evolution promoted by globalists with their roots in Communism. This theory (lie) has been very damaging and used to excuse all manner of immoral behaviour, turning us from spiritually men with morals into greedy "creatures" of rational self interest. If people want to be subtley stripped of an identity or morals in the name of Marxism that's fine. But i should be allowed to point out it's intellectual flaws. Which i did, probably badly but hey ho.
So why the hostility? People are hostile to Christianity because there's been a heavily funded campaign to promote Atheism & remove christianity from society. They're using the same anti Christian brain washing methods devised by Joeseph Stalin in Communist Russia. They're the same billionaire marxists funding all the subversive Anti Family movements that dominate our Government pressure groups and media today(LGBTQ, Mass Immigration, Radical Feminism, Antifa) All these groups are being USED by Neo-Communist billionaires to destroy our culture from within. Our society has been infiltrated, we're moving towards Communism.

Yesterday in America a Christian man was sentanced to 16 years prison for removing a rainbow flag from his Church doorway.

Yesterday in Britain, a grooming gang were sentenced to just 8 years for raping a 12 year old girl who had just lost her father and was very vulnerable. They will be out in FOUR years.

Wake up!

If you're an Atheist saying we aren't the result of a creator then that's an irrational position and you're playing into the hands of Neo Communists funding these movements. their sole purpose? destroy our moral base, while you defer critical thought to others and watch porn or other trivial distractions. Check this image from a Jewish Italian Communist named Antonio Gramsci. He is the God father of todays movements psychologically destroying the West.


The fact that there are numerous different religions with different Gods should be all you need to know that it isn’t real



im not religious.. but its a fact that every group, tribe ,race concluded there were gods or a god.. they were not bombarded by know better than you people insisting there was . so im open minded about it. there is so much we do not know.
I do know I do not like the shutting down of any debate on a raft of things including religion.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:38 pm

Well, whoever decided that that poster of the 3 monkeys was appropriate to promote tolerance is flawed.

My question to Elyboy and all the slaggers off is This:

Can you not believe that Evolution is the most likely theory But that some kind of deity did exist Even if it was a wise man or wise men who wrote the Scriptures a fair few millennia later to explain things that the people did not comprehend and also the Control of the masses.

Some christian religions do believe in both.

I do not think that anybody should slag off anyone's opinions if they do not pose a danger to themselves or others.

Is there some higher power ? who knows, certainly not me but do believe in Human Kindness, truth and wisdom even if I fall short in a lot of ways.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:25 pm

powysblue wrote:Well, whoever decided that that poster of the 3 monkeys was appropriate to promote tolerance is flawed.

My question to Elyboy and all the slaggers off is This:

Can you not believe that Evolution is the most likely theory But that some kind of deity did exist Even if it was a wise man or wise men who wrote the Scriptures a fair few millennia later to explain things that the people did not comprehend and also the Control of the masses.

Some christian religions do believe in both.

I do not think that anybody should slag off anyone's opinions if they do not pose a danger to themselves or others.

Is there some higher power ? who knows, certainly not me but do believe in Human Kindness, truth and wisdom even if I fall short in a lot of ways.


Hello powysblue, some people say the evolution debate is a distraction. Our creator could haved designed us to evolve.

However, evolution is a deeply irrational theory for 2 main reaons:-

1) Basic cells can't just create something like an eyeball out of nothing. It's the same reasoning behind the universe origins. nothing comes from nothing, 
there is something, therefore, there was never nothing. 
This something could not bring itself into existence, 
because to do that, it would have to exist before it ex- 
isted. Therefore, something else had to bring it into 
existence.

2) Darwin's theory of natural selection contradicts itself. Take for example a Wasp. If by some miracle it began growing a wing from nothing. That wing would be 1% then over generations 2% then 3%... until the wasp wing is say 50% in size then enables flight. But the wing at 1%/2%/3% has zero function. Under Darwin's own theory of natural selection a trait with zero function becomes bred out of existence. Yet Darwin's theory claims the opposite happened. It contradicts itself. wasps wouldn't continually breed a useless trait into existence Over 100s of generations. It's illogical and intellectually flawed.

Everyones entitked to their opinion. Just consider that Marxists dominate academia and media and they're hostile to Christianity. Atheism is irrational and philosophically a dead end. It doesn't go anywhere.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Wed Dec 25, 2019 5:06 pm

The percentages of say 1% is not zero function tho’. It is 1%. Some beetles and insects don’t fly very well and it is possible to assume they are evolving but over aeons rather than generations.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Wed Dec 25, 2019 5:37 pm

What function does 1% wing have?

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Wed Dec 25, 2019 5:41 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:What function does 1% wing have?


It can not facilitate flight. If you know the function let me know...

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:59 pm

Structure and function evolve over millenia, percentage points are irrelevant, but if you want to quantify that way, great. There is no 1% because you don’t know the end point.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Wed Dec 25, 2019 7:55 pm

rumpo kid wrote:Structure and function evolve over millenia, percentage points are irrelevant, but if you want to quantify that way, great. There is no 1% because you don’t know the end point.


Naturally the 1% is from it's unlikely magical appearence to the present day. If you back the theory you have to explain What function .1 % wing have? It certainly couldn't enable flight...

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:25 pm

Fossil records detail some of the changes and these are clear to see. Still don’t see any relevance to percentages, rather a number of design processes. Any extra info you should consult any published gene expression trials. That can explain far better than I, and even then it’s still theory.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:40 pm

I do like the fact that people who believe in Gods claim that science is “irrational” :laughing6:

I also like the fact people point to tribes and the fact they believed in Gods as a reason as to why it’s probably true. Most Tribes were a version of pagan, they worshipped the earth and the things that gave earth is characteristics. As far as they were concerned that big light in the sky gave them safety from predators, warmth and allowed food to grow, they worshipped the Sun or even thought the sun was a God. Much of ancient Egypt religion is actually surrounding the Sun God Ra.

In winter many tribes sacrificed human babies for months as an offering for consistent warmth to come back (the summer), reckon we should do that too?... or do you reckon we know better and the Sun is a ball of flaming gas that we orbit around and will happen no matter what we offer the mysterious Gods?

Christianity is a cheap rip off from the Egyptian religion created (I use that word intentionally) thousands of years previously. Born on the 25th to a virgin mother, wise men following a star in the east, had 12 followers, walked on water, healed the sick and raised the dead, upon his death at 30 he was buried for 3 days before being resurrected and descended into heaven.

Jesus you may think? No, Horus. 3000 years prior to the Christianity story being created. :thumbright:

Merry Xmas.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Thu Dec 26, 2019 10:48 am

ElyBoy1984 wrote:
powysblue wrote:Well, whoever decided that that poster of the 3 monkeys was appropriate to promote tolerance is flawed.

My question to Elyboy and all the slaggers off is This:

Can you not believe that Evolution is the most likely theory But that some kind of deity did exist Even if it was a wise man or wise men who wrote the Scriptures a fair few millennia later to explain things that the people did not comprehend and also the Control of the masses.

Some christian religions do believe in both.

I do not think that anybody should slag off anyone's opinions if they do not pose a danger to themselves or others.

Is there some higher power ? who knows, certainly not me but do believe in Human Kindness, truth and wisdom even if I fall short in a lot of ways.


Hello powysblue, some people say the evolution debate is a distraction. Our creator could haved designed us to evolve.

However, evolution is a deeply irrational theory for 2 main reaons:-

1) Basic cells can't just create something like an eyeball out of nothing. It's the same reasoning behind the universe origins. nothing comes from nothing, 
there is something, therefore, there was never nothing. 
This something could not bring itself into existence, 
because to do that, it would have to exist before it ex- 
isted. Therefore, something else had to bring it into 
existence.

2) Darwin's theory of natural selection contradicts itself. Take for example a Wasp. If by some miracle it began growing a wing from nothing. That wing would be 1% then over generations 2% then 3%... until the wasp wing is say 50% in size then enables flight. But the wing at 1%/2%/3% has zero function. Under Darwin's own theory of natural selection a trait with zero function becomes bred out of existence. Yet Darwin's theory claims the opposite happened. It contradicts itself. wasps wouldn't continually breed a useless trait into existence Over 100s of generations. It's illogical and intellectually flawed.

Everyones entitked to their opinion. Just consider that Marxists dominate academia and media and they're hostile to Christianity. Atheism is irrational and philosophically a dead end. It doesn't go anywhere.




So explain the tortois on the Galapagos islands?

On different island they the same species of giant tortois but on one island the tortois neck is far longer. Their necks evolved this way to reach the plants which grow higher on their specific island due to competition for sunlight from other plants. At one time all the islands were joined, and all the necks were the same.

That is evolution in it's most blatant form. There are thousands of examples similar to this.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Thu Dec 26, 2019 10:58 am

ancient Egyptian religeons .. insects with 1% wings, peter crouch tortoises... ..what about the monkey poster ?

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:07 pm

rumpo kid wrote:Fossil records detail some of the changes and these are clear to see. Still don’t see any relevance to percentages, rather a number of design processes. Any extra info you should consult any published gene expression trials. That can explain far better than I, and even then it’s still theory.


Rumpo, if you back a theory i'd expect you to articulate it's premise with logic and reason. Especially as you're a top poster on here. Instructing me to read a book... come on man lol

Darwin himself described his theory as "absurd", he was banking on a future scientific break through to back the theory. It hasn't happened and i'd speculate that Darwin would scrap his theory if alive today.

Darwinism is a political weapon used by Revolutionary Marxists to undermine the moral base of Western cultures.

Regarding fossils, research the "cambrian explosion"

From every thing ive read, fossil records do not back the tree of life theory. The gradual development of species is conspicuously absent from fossil records.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:08 pm

welshcasual wrote:I do like the fact that people who believe in Gods claim that science is “irrational” :laughing6:

I also like the fact people point to tribes and the fact they believed in Gods as a reason as to why it’s probably true. Most Tribes were a version of pagan, they worshipped the earth and the things that gave earth is characteristics. As far as they were concerned that big light in the sky gave them safety from predators, warmth and allowed food to grow, they worshipped the Sun or even thought the sun was a God. Much of ancient Egypt religion is actually surrounding the Sun God Ra.

In winter many tribes sacrificed human babies for months as an offering for consistent warmth to come back (the summer), reckon we should do that too?... or do you reckon we know better and the Sun is a ball of flaming gas that we orbit around and will happen no matter what we offer the mysterious Gods?

Christianity is a cheap rip off from the Egyptian religion created (I use that word intentionally) thousands of years previously. Born on the 25th to a virgin mother, wise men following a star in the east, had 12 followers, walked on water, healed the sick and raised the dead, upon his death at 30 he was buried for 3 days before being resurrected and descended into heaven.

Jesus you may think? No, Horus. 3000 years prior to the Christianity story being created. :thumbright:

Merry Xmas.


Get well soon

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:23 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:I do like the fact that people who believe in Gods claim that science is “irrational” :laughing6:

I also like the fact people point to tribes and the fact they believed in Gods as a reason as to why it’s probably true. Most Tribes were a version of pagan, they worshipped the earth and the things that gave earth is characteristics. As far as they were concerned that big light in the sky gave them safety from predators, warmth and allowed food to grow, they worshipped the Sun or even thought the sun was a God. Much of ancient Egypt religion is actually surrounding the Sun God Ra.

In winter many tribes sacrificed human babies for months as an offering for consistent warmth to come back (the summer), reckon we should do that too?... or do you reckon we know better and the Sun is a ball of flaming gas that we orbit around and will happen no matter what we offer the mysterious Gods?

Christianity is a cheap rip off from the Egyptian religion created (I use that word intentionally) thousands of years previously. Born on the 25th to a virgin mother, wise men following a star in the east, had 12 followers, walked on water, healed the sick and raised the dead, upon his death at 30 he was buried for 3 days before being resurrected and descended into heaven.

Jesus you may think? No, Horus. 3000 years prior to the Christianity story being created. :thumbright:

Merry Xmas.


Get well soon


The typical response from a religious type, that and... “God put that there to test our faith”. :laughing6:

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:28 pm

dogfound wrote:ancient Egyptian religeons .. insects with 1% wings, peter crouch tortoises... ..what about the monkey poster ?


Lol

Maybe we should start another thread or change the title of this one.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:33 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:
dogfound wrote:ancient Egyptian religeons .. insects with 1% wings, peter crouch tortoises... ..what about the monkey poster ?


Lol

Maybe we should start another thread or change the title of this one.



in all seriousness ive quite enjoyed the thread.. but its not what it says on the tin..