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How about a party who wants to stand up for democracy and honour the Referendum result, to create trade deals with who they want to deal with, not to be answerable to Brussels, a responsibly run dynamic economy, to protect the Union, a proper defence policy, a responsible immigration system, a properly budgeted run NHS and Police...

Is that enough for you?

Nah not really. And to respond to your NHS, here’s your lovely Tory government doing a great job for the NHS. Shocking you would back this!

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Anyone who votes Labour has to be living in the past.
1. Labour is not for the working class Why ? Plans to reverse the public sector pay gap after 9 years of Tories paying for their rich busddies by limiting Public Sector pay to 1%, increasing the living wage much quicker than weven the Tories current plans, what more do you want ?
2.they will I crease benefits making it attractive to stay out of work for some Possibly but at least they'll make siure those that need benefits get them, unlike the Tories whohave poverty and homelessness at an all time high in modern times. I'd rather pay more tax than live in this current situation where people are really suffering.
3. They are removing the 2 child benefit and increasing the benefit for every child you have, for as many as you have, regardless whether you can afford it... making it attractive to have 11 kids and stay out of work. The usual Daily Mail line. Yes there will be a tiny minority that may think like that but the proportion of large families is much lowe r now anmd the actual impact on spending is minimal compared to high level tax dodgers who can get away with it now due to the cuts in HMRC
4. They have no respect for the armed forces and live in a world that does not exist.. no one knows where the next Hitler will come from and a deterrent is just that, it deters other nations from taking over other nations and has worked for over 70 years I think they respect them but just don't believe they are a priority. Do you really see a future war where the number of ground troops will be of any consequence ? I don't.
5. Their maths do not add up, free internet, taking back utility companies and rail service. Free education when you leave school and so on, where is this money coming from They have openly said they they will be borrowing huge amounts, so too are the Tories. The last 9 years we have fallen behind many other countries and it's now a matter of playing catch up and that has to be front loaded. Are you really telling me that the rail service is better now than when it was nationalised. The best rail services across the world are nationalised, that will also benefit the working class as they won't have to put up with not only late/cancelled trains but also constant, above inflation fare increases
6. Open door immigration.. yes immigration is a good thing in controlled numbers, on mass is never a good thing. We would need more schools, hospitals, better roads and so on to cope, plus how many people can live on this island before we are unable to cope? 85 million?In general I agree that we need to limiy immigration. But we also have to base it on the roles we need not on how much people will earn as proposed by the Tories. We will always need nurses, fruit pickers, etc., in big numbers but none of those will pass the £30K test that the Tories propose
7. All politicians are lying twats but sometimes, it is better the Devil you know

I agree with the first comment not the second because I already know that after 9 years of Tory rule I am significantly wqorse off than I was prior to them, and not just monetary wise

Living in the past !!??

I'm living in the present and can't see for the life of me what the Tories are going to do for the working man.

I actually agree with quite a few bits of what you say (we should re nationalise the rail networks) and vehemently disagree with others (austerity is the sole fault of the Tories).

The problem we have to my eye is that Labours shift to an extreme leftist position means that there is no centrist opposition.

The Tories really aren't conservative/right wing anymore, you reference Blair's, New Labour - really and truly how far away was the last elected Tory government (I.e. May's government) ideologically from Blair's?

Our politics is broken and we need a reset. The only chance I believe we have of achieving that is first to deliver the democratic will of the people which is Brexit - otherwise everything else is moot.

If we can achieve that, the Tory's need to move back to the right to reclaim their right centre position as they are currently centre left. There are hints of this in Boris Johnson's rhetoric, if not in his government's manifesto.

With an established centre right government the opposition should hopefully return to a moderate centre left and sensible dialogue can resume.

The alternative is further shifts to the extremes to either side of the political axis and that is a bad, bad thing.

Corbyn's Labour (and to al lesser extent Swinson's Liberal Democrats) needs to fail and fail so comprehensively that it is essential to completley rebuild it with it's original focus on the needs of the working class at its core rather that an out of touch, middle class champagne socialist elite.

A Tory landslide is the only hope of hitting the reset button and even then it might be too late.

Anyone who votes Labour has to be living in the past.
1. Labour is not for the working class Why ? Plans to reverse the public sector pay gap after 9 years of Tories paying for their rich busddies by limiting Public Sector pay to 1%, increasing the living wage much quicker than weven the Tories current plans, what more do you want ?
2.they will I crease benefits making it attractive to stay out of work for some Possibly but at least they'll make siure those that need benefits get them, unlike the Tories whohave poverty and homelessness at an all time high in modern times. I'd rather pay more tax than live in this current situation where people are really suffering.
3. They are removing the 2 child benefit and increasing the benefit for every child you have, for as many as you have, regardless whether you can afford it... making it attractive to have 11 kids and stay out of work. The usual Daily Mail line. Yes there will be a tiny minority that may think like that but the proportion of large families is much lowe r now anmd the actual impact on spending is minimal compared to high level tax dodgers who can get away with it now due to the cuts in HMRC
4. They have no respect for the armed forces and live in a world that does not exist.. no one knows where the next Hitler will come from and a deterrent is just that, it deters other nations from taking over other nations and has worked for over 70 years I think they respect them but just don't believe they are a priority. Do you really see a future war where the number of ground troops will be of any consequence ? I don't.
5. Their maths do not add up, free internet, taking back utility companies and rail service. Free education when you leave school and so on, where is this money coming from They have openly said they they will be borrowing huge amounts, so too are the Tories. The last 9 years we have fallen behind many other countries and it's now a matter of playing catch up and that has to be front loaded. Are you really telling me that the rail service is better now than when it was nationalised. The best rail services across the world are nationalised, that will also benefit the working class as they won't have to put up with not only late/cancelled trains but also constant, above inflation fare increases
6. Open door immigration.. yes immigration is a good thing in controlled numbers, on mass is never a good thing. We would need more schools, hospitals, better roads and so on to cope, plus how many people can live on this island before we are unable to cope? 85 million?In general I agree that we need to limiy immigration. But we also have to base it on the roles we need not on how much people will earn as proposed by the Tories. We will always need nurses, fruit pickers, etc., in big numbers but none of those will pass the £30K test that the Tories propose
7. All politicians are lying twats but sometimes, it is better the Devil you know

I agree with the first comment not the second because I already know that after 9 years of Tory rule I am significantly wqorse off than I was prior to them, and not just monetary wise

Living in the past !!??

I'm living in the present and can't see for the life of me what the Tories are going to do for the working man.

I actually agree with quite a few bits of what you say (we should re nationalise the rail networks) and vehemently disagree with others (austerity is the sole fault of the Tories).

The problem we have to my eye is that Labours shift to an extreme leftist position means that there is no centrist opposition.

The Tories really aren't conservative/right wing anymore, you reference Blair's, New Labour - really and truly how far away was the last elected Tory government (I.e. May's government) ideologically from Blair's?

Our politics is broken and we need a reset. The only chance I believe we have of achieving that is first to deliver the democratic will of the people which is Brexit - otherwise everything else is moot.

If we can achieve that, the Tory's need to move back to the right to reclaim their right centre position as they are currently centre left. There are hints of this in Boris Johnson's rhetoric, if not in his government's manifesto.

With an established centre right government the opposition should hopefully return to a moderate centre left and sensible dialogue can resume.

The alternative is further shifts to the extremes to either side of the political axis and that is a bad, bad thing.

Corbyn's Labour (and to al lesser extent Swinson's Liberal Democrats) needs to fail and fail so comprehensively that it is essential to completley rebuild it with it's original focus on the needs of the working class at its core rather that an out of touch, middle class champagne socialist elite.

A Tory landslide is the only hope of hitting the reset button and even then it might be too late.

There wont be a Tory landslide that's for sure. As much as I would love it, its not going to happen, tactical voting will take care of that.

Anyone who votes Labour has to be living in the past.
1. Labour is not for the working class Why ? Plans to reverse the public sector pay gap after 9 years of Tories paying for their rich busddies by limiting Public Sector pay to 1%, increasing the living wage much quicker than weven the Tories current plans, what more do you want ?
2.they will I crease benefits making it attractive to stay out of work for some Possibly but at least they'll make siure those that need benefits get them, unlike the Tories whohave poverty and homelessness at an all time high in modern times. I'd rather pay more tax than live in this current situation where people are really suffering.
3. They are removing the 2 child benefit and increasing the benefit for every child you have, for as many as you have, regardless whether you can afford it... making it attractive to have 11 kids and stay out of work. The usual Daily Mail line. Yes there will be a tiny minority that may think like that but the proportion of large families is much lowe r now anmd the actual impact on spending is minimal compared to high level tax dodgers who can get away with it now due to the cuts in HMRC
4. They have no respect for the armed forces and live in a world that does not exist.. no one knows where the next Hitler will come from and a deterrent is just that, it deters other nations from taking over other nations and has worked for over 70 years I think they respect them but just don't believe they are a priority. Do you really see a future war where the number of ground troops will be of any consequence ? I don't.
5. Their maths do not add up, free internet, taking back utility companies and rail service. Free education when you leave school and so on, where is this money coming from They have openly said they they will be borrowing huge amounts, so too are the Tories. The last 9 years we have fallen behind many other countries and it's now a matter of playing catch up and that has to be front loaded. Are you really telling me that the rail service is better now than when it was nationalised. The best rail services across the world are nationalised, that will also benefit the working class as they won't have to put up with not only late/cancelled trains but also constant, above inflation fare increases
6. Open door immigration.. yes immigration is a good thing in controlled numbers, on mass is never a good thing. We would need more schools, hospitals, better roads and so on to cope, plus how many people can live on this island before we are unable to cope? 85 million?In general I agree that we need to limiy immigration. But we also have to base it on the roles we need not on how much people will earn as proposed by the Tories. We will always need nurses, fruit pickers, etc., in big numbers but none of those will pass the £30K test that the Tories propose
7. All politicians are lying twats but sometimes, it is better the Devil you know

I agree with the first comment not the second because I already know that after 9 years of Tory rule I am significantly wqorse off than I was prior to them, and not just monetary wise

Living in the past !!??

I'm living in the present and can't see for the life of me what the Tories are going to do for the working man.

I actually agree with quite a few bits of what you say (we should re nationalise the rail networks) and vehemently disagree with others (austerity is the sole fault of the Tories).

The problem we have to my eye is that Labours shift to an extreme leftist position means that there is no centrist opposition.

The Tories really aren't conservative/right wing anymore, you reference Blair's, New Labour - really and truly how far away was the last elected Tory government (I.e. May's government) ideologically from Blair's?

Our politics is broken and we need a reset. The only chance I believe we have of achieving that is first to deliver the democratic will of the people which is Brexit - otherwise everything else is moot.

If we can achieve that, the Tory's need to move back to the right to reclaim their right centre position as they are currently centre left. There are hints of this in Boris Johnson's rhetoric, if not in his government's manifesto.

With an established centre right government the opposition should hopefully return to a moderate centre left and sensible dialogue can resume.

The alternative is further shifts to the extremes to either side of the political axis and that is a bad, bad thing.

Corbyn's Labour (and to al lesser extent Swinson's Liberal Democrats) needs to fail and fail so comprehensively that it is essential to completley rebuild it with it's original focus on the needs of the working class at its core rather that an out of touch, middle class champagne socialist elite.

A Tory landslide is the only hope of hitting the reset button and even then it might be too late.

There wont be a Tory landslide that's for sure. As much as I would love it, its not going to happen, tactical voting will take care of that.

I'm not so sure to be honest, the remain alliance have done their best to alienate their core base and the general public opinion is not reflected in the media which is overly representative of the remain parties.

If the 'average man' votes we may just see something special happen.

That said I have an unfortunate tendency towards optimism so I may well be completely wrong.

But I live in hope. Either way this will be a critical moment in history. I just hope we're on the right side of it.

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How about a party who wants to stand up for democracy and honour the Referendum result, to create trade deals with who they want to deal with, not to be answerable to Brussels, a responsibly run dynamic economy, to protect the Union, a proper defence policy, a responsible immigration system, a properly budgeted run NHS and Police...

Is that enough for you?

Nah not really. And to respond to your NHS, here’s your lovely Tory government doing a great job for the NHS. Shocking you would back this!

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That is the red rag cherry picking out one incident. How about pictures of the tens of thousands of patients who talk nothing but good of their treatment?

ps Anyone got a photo to hand of Corbyn with his IRA mates?

The man is a f*cking c**t.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... 9-50717606

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How about a party who wants to stand up for democracy and honour the Referendum result, to create trade deals with who they want to deal with, not to be answerable to Brussels, a responsibly run dynamic economy, to protect the Union, a proper defence policy, a responsible immigration system, a properly budgeted run NHS and Police...

Is that enough for you?

Nah not really. And to respond to your NHS, here’s your lovely Tory government doing a great job for the NHS. Shocking you would back this!

76854FA7-1019-4548-A58E-3128B6BC78D8.jpeg

That is the red rag cherry picking out one incident. How about pictures of the tens of thousands of patients who talk nothing but good of their treatment?

ps Anyone got a photo to hand of Corbyn with his IRA mates?

If his link is the picture of the child on floor it is nothing but a stunt to discredit him! That hospital should be prosecuted for neglect no patient should or need to be on floor regardless of how full it is! As for the mother she should be ashamed of herself for letting hospital put him on floor! Would anyone on here allow that to their child under any circumstances I Dont think so? and that's why it is someone looking to make political gain it's that simple...

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How about a party who wants to stand up for democracy and honour the Referendum result, to create trade deals with who they want to deal with, not to be answerable to Brussels, a responsibly run dynamic economy, to protect the Union, a proper defence policy, a responsible immigration system, a properly budgeted run NHS and Police...

Is that enough for you?

Nah not really. And to respond to your NHS, here’s your lovely Tory government doing a great job for the NHS. Shocking you would back this!

76854FA7-1019-4548-A58E-3128B6BC78D8.jpeg

That is the red rag cherry picking out one incident. How about pictures of the tens of thousands of patients who talk nothing but good of their treatment?

ps Anyone got a photo to hand of Corbyn with his IRA mates?

Its not just one incident though is it, its been a shit state for years your argument is dumb as f**k

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How about a party who wants to stand up for democracy and honour the Referendum result, to create trade deals with who they want to deal with, not to be answerable to Brussels, a responsibly run dynamic economy, to protect the Union, a proper defence policy, a responsible immigration system, a properly budgeted run NHS and Police...

Is that enough for you?

Nah not really. And to respond to your NHS, here’s your lovely Tory government doing a great job for the NHS. Shocking you would back this!

76854FA7-1019-4548-A58E-3128B6BC78D8.jpeg

That is the red rag cherry picking out one incident. How about pictures of the tens of thousands of patients who talk nothing but good of their treatment?

ps Anyone got a photo to hand of Corbyn with his IRA mates?

If his link is the picture of the child on floor it is nothing but a stunt to discredit him! That hospital should be prosecuted for neglect no patient should or need to be on floor regardless of how full it is! As for the mother she should be ashamed of herself for letting hospital put him on floor! Would anyone on here allow that to their child under any circumstances I Dont think so? and that's why it is someone looking to make political gain.

Get used to it because it'll get worse with the tories in charge and those of you that vote for them will have no right at all to complain, you will be responsible.

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How about a party who wants to stand up for democracy and honour the Referendum result, to create trade deals with who they want to deal with, not to be answerable to Brussels, a responsibly run dynamic economy, to protect the Union, a proper defence policy, a responsible immigration system, a properly budgeted run NHS and Police...

Is that enough for you?

Nah not really. And to respond to your NHS, here’s your lovely Tory government doing a great job for the NHS. Shocking you would back this!

76854FA7-1019-4548-A58E-3128B6BC78D8.jpeg

That is the red rag cherry picking out one incident. How about pictures of the tens of thousands of patients who talk nothing but good of their treatment?

ps Anyone got a photo to hand of Corbyn with his IRA mates?

Its not just one incident though is it, its been a shit state for years your argument is dumb as f**k

Yes labour AM for this area and wag doing great job in closing down our hospital here, and they are advertising this election by saying save nhs from Tories? They are thick as 1st minister

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How about a party who wants to stand up for democracy and honour the Referendum result, to create trade deals with who they want to deal with, not to be answerable to Brussels, a responsibly run dynamic economy, to protect the Union, a proper defence policy, a responsible immigration system, a properly budgeted run NHS and Police...

Is that enough for you?

Nah not really. And to respond to your NHS, here’s your lovely Tory government doing a great job for the NHS. Shocking you would back this!

76854FA7-1019-4548-A58E-3128B6BC78D8.jpeg

That is the red rag cherry picking out one incident. How about pictures of the tens of thousands of patients who talk nothing but good of their treatment?

ps Anyone got a photo to hand of Corbyn with his IRA mates?

If his link is the picture of the child on floor it is nothing but a stunt to discredit him! That hospital should be prosecuted for neglect no patient should or need to be on floor regardless of how full it is! As for the mother she should be ashamed of herself for letting hospital put him on floor! Would anyone on here allow that to their child under any circumstances I Dont think so? and that's why it is someone looking to make political gain.

Get used to it because it'll get worse with the tories in charge and those of you that vote for them will have no right at all to complain, you will be responsible.

Bollocks if you think labour will improve nhs?
It is devolved in wales and labour wants to close our hospital nothing to do with Tories just incompetent management of nhs by labour WAG and AM ... your blind if think that picture is anything other than political stunt to try and gain labour votes

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How about a party who wants to stand up for democracy and honour the Referendum result, to create trade deals with who they want to deal with, not to be answerable to Brussels, a responsibly run dynamic economy, to protect the Union, a proper defence policy, a responsible immigration system, a properly budgeted run NHS and Police...

Is that enough for you?

Nah not really. And to respond to your NHS, here’s your lovely Tory government doing a great job for the NHS. Shocking you would back this!

76854FA7-1019-4548-A58E-3128B6BC78D8.jpeg

That is the red rag cherry picking out one incident. How about pictures of the tens of thousands of patients who talk nothing but good of their treatment?

ps Anyone got a photo to hand of Corbyn with his IRA mates?

If his link is the picture of the child on floor it is nothing but a stunt to discredit him! That hospital should be prosecuted for neglect no patient should or need to be on floor regardless of how full it is! As for the mother she should be ashamed of herself for letting hospital put him on floor! Would anyone on here allow that to their child under any circumstances I Dont think so? and that's why it is someone looking to make political gain.

Get used to it because it'll get worse with the tories in charge and those of you that vote for them will have no right at all to complain, you will be responsible.

Bollocks if you think labour will improve nhs?
It is devolved in wales and labour wants to close our hospital nothing to do with Tories just incompetent management of nhs by labour WAG and AM

Tories have been responsible for the NHS and its decline for the past decade nice try trying to pass on the blame.

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How about a party who wants to stand up for democracy and honour the Referendum result, to create trade deals with who they want to deal with, not to be answerable to Brussels, a responsibly run dynamic economy, to protect the Union, a proper defence policy, a responsible immigration system, a properly budgeted run NHS and Police...

Is that enough for you?

Nah not really. And to respond to your NHS, here’s your lovely Tory government doing a great job for the NHS. Shocking you would back this!

76854FA7-1019-4548-A58E-3128B6BC78D8.jpeg

That is the red rag cherry picking out one incident. How about pictures of the tens of thousands of patients who talk nothing but good of their treatment?

ps Anyone got a photo to hand of Corbyn with his IRA mates?

If his link is the picture of the child on floor it is nothing but a stunt to discredit him! That hospital should be prosecuted for neglect no patient should or need to be on floor regardless of how full it is! As for the mother she should be ashamed of herself for letting hospital put him on floor! Would anyone on here allow that to their child under any circumstances I Dont think so? and that's why it is someone looking to make political gain.

Get used to it because it'll get worse with the tories in charge and those of you that vote for them will have no right at all to complain, you will be responsible.

Bollocks if you think labour will improve nhs?
It is devolved in wales and labour wants to close our hospital nothing to do with Tories just incompetent management of nhs by labour WAG and AM

Tories have been responsible for the NHS and its decline for the past decade nice try trying to pass on the blame.

Who runs nhs in Wales? "WAG DOES" wag is labour controlled it is their responsibility or didnt you know that?

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How about a party who wants to stand up for democracy and honour the Referendum result, to create trade deals with who they want to deal with, not to be answerable to Brussels, a responsibly run dynamic economy, to protect the Union, a proper defence policy, a responsible immigration system, a properly budgeted run NHS and Police...

Is that enough for you?

Nah not really. And to respond to your NHS, here’s your lovely Tory government doing a great job for the NHS. Shocking you would back this!

76854FA7-1019-4548-A58E-3128B6BC78D8.jpeg

That is the red rag cherry picking out one incident. How about pictures of the tens of thousands of patients who talk nothing but good of their treatment?

ps Anyone got a photo to hand of Corbyn with his IRA mates?

If his link is the picture of the child on floor it is nothing but a stunt to discredit him! That hospital should be prosecuted for neglect no patient should or need to be on floor regardless of how full it is! As for the mother she should be ashamed of herself for letting hospital put him on floor! Would anyone on here allow that to their child under any circumstances I Dont think so? and that's why it is someone looking to make political gain.

Get used to it because it'll get worse with the tories in charge and those of you that vote for them will have no right at all to complain, you will be responsible.

Be interesting to know why exactly that happened. My daughter is a nurse in a local hospital, and while there are pressures in her hospital (under the Labour controlled NHS in Wales), she has said that not all the blame can be pinned on those at the Senedd. She has said that all the staff there are well aware that years of poor management from pen pushers with no experience of working on a ward have played a big part in her, and others, considering their future in the NHS. I take no notice of photographs in a daily rag without knowing the facts, and that includes the photographs of Corbyn with known terrorists which have been used as anti Labour propaganda. Every newspaper, both Tory and Labour, are searching hard to publish anything that backs up the party they back. We will see more of the odd photos that will be used to try and shock us, but we won't see any photos of the thousands of people who receive a good service every day of the week.

85811424-7662-4BED-AA30-77346CCCABC2.jpeg

How about a party who wants to stand up for democracy and honour the Referendum result, to create trade deals with who they want to deal with, not to be answerable to Brussels, a responsibly run dynamic economy, to protect the Union, a proper defence policy, a responsible immigration system, a properly budgeted run NHS and Police...

Is that enough for you?

Nah not really. And to respond to your NHS, here’s your lovely Tory government doing a great job for the NHS. Shocking you would back this!

76854FA7-1019-4548-A58E-3128B6BC78D8.jpeg

I bet Johnson is in BUPA.If he needed A'E in an emergerecy he would go in through the back door.

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How about a party who wants to stand up for democracy and honour the Referendum result, to create trade deals with who they want to deal with, not to be answerable to Brussels, a responsibly run dynamic economy, to protect the Union, a proper defence policy, a responsible immigration system, a properly budgeted run NHS and Police...

Is that enough for you?

Nah not really. And to respond to your NHS, here’s your lovely Tory government doing a great job for the NHS. Shocking you would back this!

76854FA7-1019-4548-A58E-3128B6BC78D8.jpeg

That is the red rag cherry picking out one incident. How about pictures of the tens of thousands of patients who talk nothing but good of their treatment?

ps Anyone got a photo to hand of Corbyn with his IRA mates?

If his link is the picture of the child on floor it is nothing but a stunt to discredit him! That hospital should be prosecuted for neglect no patient should or need to be on floor regardless of how full it is! As for the mother she should be ashamed of herself for letting hospital put him on floor! Would anyone on here allow that to their child under any circumstances I Dont think so? and that's why it is someone looking to make political gain.

Get used to it because it'll get worse with the tories in charge and those of you that vote for them will have no right at all to complain, you will be responsible.

Be interesting to know why exactly that happened. My daughter is a nurse in a local hospital, and while there are pressures in her hospital (under the Labour controlled NHS in Wales), she has said that not all the blame can be pinned on those at the Senedd. She has said that all the staff there are well aware that years of poor management from pen pushers with no experience of working on a ward have played a big part in her, and others, considering their future in the NHS. I take no notice of photographs in a daily rag without knowing the facts, and that includes the photographs of Corbyn with known terrorists which have been used as anti Labour propaganda. Every newspaper, both Tory and Labour, are searching hard to publish anything that backs up the party they back. We will see more of the odd photos that will be used to try and shock us, but we won't see any photos of the thousands of people who receive a good service every day of the week.

Like said steve that picture is aimed at discrediting boris and for all pressures on hospitals that situation is totally unacceptable and totally unnecessary and people should be taken to task for allowing it to be staged managed ! I still work around hospitals even after retirement 8 yrs ago and it is getting more and more pressure but it's not simply cuts better treatment is leading to people to have more treatments and procedures where as years ago they be dead! Typical example is cancer which I mostly deal with? patients are living many years longer than previously and as result are still using NHS treatment long after they use to... no government labour or Tory can fully fund nhs under present system.

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The man is a f*cking c**t.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... 9-50717606

SHE made a make shift bed and took a photo. thought it was Corbyn doing a NHS version of no seats on trains when you said the man is a c**t...sorry
the NHS is always desperation tactics by labour has always been. truth is the NHS has never ever had enough money no matter who is in power . as there will be more procedures more drugs and more patients nxt year and the year after and the year after that..

The man is a f*cking c**t.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... 9-50717606

SHE made a make shift bed and took a photo. thought it was Corbyn doing a NHS version of no seats on trains when you said the man is a c**t...sorry
the NHS is always desperation tactics by labour has always been. truth is the NHS has never ever had enough money no matter who is in power . as there will be more procedures more drugs and more patients nxt year and the year after and the year after that..

Doggy would you allow your child be put on floor at a hospital in real life like this? I certainly wouldn't ,
it's an appalling way to use a child for whatever reason.

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How about a party who wants to stand up for democracy and honour the Referendum result, to create trade deals with who they want to deal with, not to be answerable to Brussels, a responsibly run dynamic economy, to protect the Union, a proper defence policy, a responsible immigration system, a properly budgeted run NHS and Police...

Is that enough for you?

Nah not really. And to respond to your NHS, here’s your lovely Tory government doing a great job for the NHS. Shocking you would back this!

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That is the red rag cherry picking out one incident. How about pictures of the tens of thousands of patients who talk nothing but good of their treatment?

ps Anyone got a photo to hand of Corbyn with his IRA mates?

If his link is the picture of the child on floor it is nothing but a stunt to discredit him! That hospital should be prosecuted for neglect no patient should or need to be on floor regardless of how full it is! As for the mother she should be ashamed of herself for letting hospital put him on floor! Would anyone on here allow that to their child under any circumstances I Dont think so? and that's why it is someone looking to make political gain.

Get used to it because it'll get worse with the tories in charge and those of you that vote for them will have no right at all to complain, you will be responsible.

Be interesting to know why exactly that happened. My daughter is a nurse in a local hospital, and while there are pressures in her hospital (under the Labour controlled NHS in Wales), she has said that not all the blame can be pinned on those at the Senedd. She has said that all the staff there are well aware that years of poor management from pen pushers with no experience of working on a ward have played a big part in her, and others, considering their future in the NHS. I take no notice of photographs in a daily rag without knowing the facts, and that includes the photographs of Corbyn with known terrorists which have been used as anti Labour propaganda. Every newspaper, both Tory and Labour, are searching hard to publish anything that backs up the party they back. We will see more of the odd photos that will be used to try and shock us, but we won't see any photos of the thousands of people who receive a good service every day of the week.

Like said steve that picture is aimed at discrediting boris and for all pressures on hospitals that situation is totally unacceptable and totally unnecessary and people should be taken to task for allowing it to be staged managed ! I still work around hospitals even after retirement 8 yrs ago and it is getting more and more pressure but it's not simply cuts better treatment is leading to people to have more treatments and procedures where as years ago they be dead! Typical example is cancer which I mostly deal with? patients are living many years longer than previously and as result are still using NHS treatment long after they use to... no government labour or Tory can fully fund nhs under present system.

I try to go with personal experience Allan rather than what I read in these daily comics. Earlier this year my doctor spotted something that must have concerned him slightly, and within 10 days I was being X Rayed and checked out at a local hospital. Fortunately, all ok, and I couldn't fault any part of the process. Nobody asked me for my opinion on the NHS, or took pictures of me receiving a first class service. I know casualty is overflowing with people there who have sniffed or coughed, or have a headache. There are plenty there who shouldn't be there, and with an ever aging population and an increasing number of people in the UK, whoever is in power has a massive task on their hands. Easy for Labour to focus on what has obviously become a problem, but if Labour were to win the election, you can guarantee that the Tories will be doing exactly the same thing, as no single party has the money to enable the NHS to function as it did many years ago.

Let’s look at what the Tories have done for us. Poll Tax, mass privatisation, mass deregulation, attacking workers’ rights, fox hunting, supporting apartheid and slashing taxes for the rich
– to the modern-day Tory policies of austerity, zero hours contracts, supporting Fossil Fuel corporations, ignoring Climate Change, hiking Tuition Fees, scrapping EMA, slashing Disability Benefits, implementing the Bedroom Tax, culling badgers, supporting the Ivory Trade, and ignoring poverty, homelessness and the housing crisis whilst – surprise surprise – wasting yet more taxpayer money brazenly cutting taxes for the rich even further.
The primary function of the Conservative Party’s ideology – Toryism – is to ‘uphold the social order as it exists‘. Or, in other words, to promote policies, ideas and arguments which are specificially designed to conserve – or increase – the wealth and power of those who already hold it.

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How about a party who wants to stand up for democracy and honour the Referendum result, to create trade deals with who they want to deal with, not to be answerable to Brussels, a responsibly run dynamic economy, to protect the Union, a proper defence policy, a responsible immigration system, a properly budgeted run NHS and Police...

Is that enough for you?

Nah not really. And to respond to your NHS, here’s your lovely Tory government doing a great job for the NHS. Shocking you would back this!

76854FA7-1019-4548-A58E-3128B6BC78D8.jpeg

That is the red rag cherry picking out one incident. How about pictures of the tens of thousands of patients who talk nothing but good of their treatment?

ps Anyone got a photo to hand of Corbyn with his IRA mates?

If his link is the picture of the child on floor it is nothing but a stunt to discredit him! That hospital should be prosecuted for neglect no patient should or need to be on floor regardless of how full it is! As for the mother she should be ashamed of herself for letting hospital put him on floor! Would anyone on here allow that to their child under any circumstances I Dont think so? and that's why it is someone looking to make political gain.

Get used to it because it'll get worse with the tories in charge and those of you that vote for them will have no right at all to complain, you will be responsible.

Be interesting to know why exactly that happened. My daughter is a nurse in a local hospital, and while there are pressures in her hospital (under the Labour controlled NHS in Wales), she has said that not all the blame can be pinned on those at the Senedd. She has said that all the staff there are well aware that years of poor management from pen pushers with no experience of working on a ward have played a big part in her, and others, considering their future in the NHS. I take no notice of photographs in a daily rag without knowing the facts, and that includes the photographs of Corbyn with known terrorists which have been used as anti Labour propaganda. Every newspaper, both Tory and Labour, are searching hard to publish anything that backs up the party they back. We will see more of the odd photos that will be used to try and shock us, but we won't see any photos of the thousands of people who receive a good service every day of the week.

Like said steve that picture is aimed at discrediting boris and for all pressures on hospitals that situation is totally unacceptable and totally unnecessary and people should be taken to task for allowing it to be staged managed ! I still work around hospitals even after retirement 8 yrs ago and it is getting more and more pressure but it's not simply cuts better treatment is leading to people to have more treatments and procedures where as years ago they be dead! Typical example is cancer which I mostly deal with? patients are living many years longer than previously and as result are still using NHS treatment long after they use to... no government labour or Tory can fully fund nhs under present system.

I try to go with personal experience Allan rather than what I read in these daily comics. Earlier this year my doctor spotted something that must have concerned him slightly, and within 10 days I was being X Rayed and checked out at a local hospital. Fortunately, all ok, and I couldn't fault any part of the process. Nobody asked me for my opinion on the NHS, or took pictures of me receiving a first class service. I know casualty is overflowing with people there who have sniffed or coughed, or have a headache. There are plenty there who shouldn't be there, and with an ever aging population and an increasing number of people in the UK, whoever is in power has a massive task on their hands. Easy for Labour to focus on what has obviously become a problem, but if Labour were to win the election, you can guarantee that the Tories will be doing exactly the same thing, as no single party has the money to enable the NHS to function as it did many years ago.

And there lies the problem but who as enough strength to reform way nhs is funded long term? Possibly only way is through some sort of stand alone tax contribution?

Let’s look at what the Tories have done for us. Poll Tax, mass privatisation, mass deregulation, attacking workers’ rights, fox hunting, supporting apartheid and slashing taxes for the rich
– to the modern-day Tory policies of austerity, zero hours contracts, supporting Fossil Fuel corporations, ignoring Climate Change, hiking Tuition Fees, scrapping EMA, slashing Disability Benefits, implementing the Bedroom Tax, culling badgers, supporting the Ivory Trade, and ignoring poverty, homelessness and the housing crisis whilst – surprise surprise – wasting yet more taxpayer money brazenly cutting taxes for the rich even further.
The primary function of the Conservative Party’s ideology – Toryism – is to ‘uphold the social order as it exists‘. Or, in other words, to promote policies, ideas and arguments which are specificially designed to conserve – or increase – the wealth and power of those who already hold it.

Your wasting your time preaching to the Im alright jack brigade on here.

They wont be alright jack for long...lol

The man is a f*cking c**t.

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SHE made a make shift bed and took a photo. thought it was Corbyn doing a NHS version of no seats on trains when you said the man is a c**t...sorry
the NHS is always desperation tactics by labour has always been. truth is the NHS has never ever had enough money no matter who is in power . as there will be more procedures more drugs and more patients nxt year and the year after and the year after that..

Doggy would you allow your child be put on floor at a hospital in real life like this? I certainly wouldn't ,
it's an appalling way to use a child for whatever reason.

his mother admits that she made a make shift bed and took the photo.. nobody put him there except her...
normal mirror nonsense for the 1%

Let’s look at what the Tories have done for us. Poll Tax, mass privatisation, mass deregulation, attacking workers’ rights, fox hunting, supporting apartheid and slashing taxes for the rich
– to the modern-day Tory policies of austerity, zero hours contracts, supporting Fossil Fuel corporations, ignoring Climate Change, hiking Tuition Fees, scrapping EMA, slashing Disability Benefits, implementing the Bedroom Tax, culling badgers, supporting the Ivory Trade, and ignoring poverty, homelessness and the housing crisis whilst – surprise surprise – wasting yet more taxpayer money brazenly cutting taxes for the rich even further.
The primary function of the Conservative Party’s ideology – Toryism – is to ‘uphold the social order as it exists‘. Or, in other words, to promote policies, ideas and arguments which are specificially designed to conserve – or increase – the wealth and power of those who already hold it.

If the Labour party had not virtually bankrupt the country, there would be no need for austerity. I guess austerity is happening because the media tells me it is. As I have said plenty of times in the past, if I never read a paper or watched the news I would have no idea as to which party was in power. My life has been much the same for my entire life, and no party has made me rich or poor, certainly not that I would notice. I am no millionaire and I am not living in poverty either, and I know that whichever Tom, Dick or Harry wins on Thursday, my life will carry on with no noticeable difference, just as it has for 60 odd years.

Extreme wealth inequality like this is a sign of a sick economy.

The Tories are handing out tens of billions in tax giveaways to the wealthiest few and big business, while millions are living in poverty, schools are begging parents for funds and a record number of families are turning to foodbanks to feed themselves.

Boris Johnson is in bed with the billionaires – the Labour Party is on your side. Our country needs real change, where wealth and power are in the hands of the many, not the few.

Lets for a minute pretend they work so hard they deserve to be that rich....imagine what an evil person you’d need to be to hoard more wealth than you could spend in 100 lives whilst kids raid bins and war veterans sleep on streets!

I mean i have a fairly dim view of people earning £80k voting tory to avoid £8 a month in extra tax, but these billionaires are next level Ar**holes...


Vote Labour

Nobody 'earns' that degree of wealth, and the privilege that goes with it. we live in a system that is rigged to help the richest and trample on the rest with zero hours contracts, bogus self-employed status for people delivering goods etc, ridiculously fixed trade union laws and a punitive welfare system.

Additionally, since many of those on benefits are there because they earn so little, their employers benefit from being able to get away with paying them so little. In other words, some of their wealth comes from scrounging on the welfare state.

Nobody 'earns' that degree of wealth, and the privilege that goes with it. we live in a system that is rigged to help the richest and trample on the rest with zero hours contracts, bogus self-employed status for people delivering goods etc, ridiculously fixed trade union laws and a punitive welfare system.

Additionally, since many of those on benefits are there because they earn so little, their employers benefit from being able to get away with paying them so little. In other words, some of their wealth comes from scrounging on the welfare state.

Ahhh wonder where the rich labour mob got their riches? Probably same way as every other politician? But guess in your socialist world labour MPs belong to the working lower class , whatever that means in this day and age..