The 'Ion' Political Threads (Merged)

[Jock]

I worked in the GMB and Unite Buildings in Cardiff.. biggest bunch of self-righteous know it all tossers i've ever had the misfortune to..not unlike the Cuckoo on here..

Surrounding yourself with like minded people leads to inertia, but they're happy.

Happy in their Marxist echo chamber.

[splottthedog]

I've found out you can tell your union that you don't want to make a political contribution out of your union fees , that way you don't have to give to Corbyn but are still covered for work purposes

funny thing is, corbyn is fighting to give you more protections at work and increase union rights. the current gov voted in a number of rules that limit the unions power to help you as an employee....

[dogfound]

I've found out you can tell your union that you don't want to make a political contribution out of your union fees , that way you don't have to give to Corbyn but are still covered for work purposes

funny thing is, corbyn is fighting to give you more protections at work and increase union rights. the current gov voted in a number of rules that limit the unions power to help you as an employee....

he is also all for cheap labour arriving from eastern Europe...

[splottthedog]

I've found out you can tell your union that you don't want to make a political contribution out of your union fees , that way you don't have to give to Corbyn but are still covered for work purposes

funny thing is, corbyn is fighting to give you more protections at work and increase union rights. the current gov voted in a number of rules that limit the unions power to help you as an employee....

he is also all for cheap labour arriving from eastern Europe...

whilst also trying to raise the minumum wage...

[Fusilier52]

I've found out you can tell your union that you don't want to make a political contribution out of your union fees , that way you don't have to give to Corbyn but are still covered for work purposes

funny thing is, corbyn is fighting to give you more protections at work and increase union rights. the current gov voted in a number of rules that limit the unions power to help you as an employee....

he is also all for cheap labour arriving from eastern Europe...

whilst also trying to raise the minumum wage...

and whos piggy bank money will the minimum wage come from ? Corbyn like Blair encourages immigration because thats why the vote lies , 3 something million extra flooding the UK during the Blair /Brown tenure, ever wondered why class room numbers and hospital waiting times have increased and the chance of seeing a doctor has diminished , the race to the bottom started in 1997

[splottthedog]

I've found out you can tell your union that you don't want to make a political contribution out of your union fees , that way you don't have to give to Corbyn but are still covered for work purposes

funny thing is, corbyn is fighting to give you more protections at work and increase union rights. the current gov voted in a number of rules that limit the unions power to help you as an employee....

he is also all for cheap labour arriving from eastern Europe...

whilst also trying to raise the minumum wage...

and whos piggy bank money will the minimum wage come from ? Corbyn like Blair encourages immigration because thats why the vote lies , 3 something million extra flooding the UK during the Blair /Brown tenure, ever wondered why class room numbers and hospital waiting times have increased and the chance of seeing a doctor has diminished , the race to the bottom started in 1997

great question!

answer: the employers! if an employer cant afford to pay a wage that is suitable to live off then they shouldnt play at being employers should they?

ironically enough, when the minimum wage is lower than the living wage then those employees have to claim benefits to make up for the income, and who's piggy bank does THAT come out of?

also, living wage earners pay more tax alongside claiming fewer benefits. i dont know about you, but im tired of my taxes going towards helping other working people just because employees can get away with paying wages that the government themselves admit is not enough to live on

[Bluebird1990]

I've found out you can tell your union that you don't want to make a political contribution out of your union fees , that way you don't have to give to Corbyn but are still covered for work purposes

funny thing is, corbyn is fighting to give you more protections at work and increase union rights. the current gov voted in a number of rules that limit the unions power to help you as an employee....

he is also all for cheap labour arriving from eastern Europe...

whilst also trying to raise the minumum wage...

and whos piggy bank money will the minimum wage come from ? Corbyn like Blair encourages immigration because thats why the vote lies , 3 something million extra flooding the UK during the Blair /Brown tenure, ever wondered why class room numbers and hospital waiting times have increased and the chance of seeing a doctor has diminished , the race to the bottom started in 1997

great question!

answer: the employers! if an employer cant afford to pay a wage that is suitable to live off then they shouldnt play at being employers should they?

ironically enough, when the minimum wage is lower than the living wage then those employees have to claim benefits to make up for the income, and who's piggy bank does THAT come out of?

also, living wage earners pay more tax alongside claiming fewer benefits. i dont know about you, but im tired of my taxes going towards helping other working people just because employees can get away with paying wages that the government themselves admit is not enough to live on

It always makes me laugh when i see some say "where's the money to raise minimum wage going to come from" as if they think the government pays everyones wages

[ion]

He will promise you the world to get your votes, remember how the lib undemocratics sold you out

[Steve Zodiak]

I've found out you can tell your union that you don't want to make a political contribution out of your union fees , that way you don't have to give to Corbyn but are still covered for work purposes

funny thing is, corbyn is fighting to give you more protections at work and increase union rights. the current gov voted in a number of rules that limit the unions power to help you as an employee....

he is also all for cheap labour arriving from eastern Europe...

whilst also trying to raise the minumum wage...

and whos piggy bank money will the minimum wage come from ? Corbyn like Blair encourages immigration because thats why the vote lies , 3 something million extra flooding the UK during the Blair /Brown tenure, ever wondered why class room numbers and hospital waiting times have increased and the chance of seeing a doctor has diminished , the race to the bottom started in 1997

great question!

answer: the employers! if an employer cant afford to pay a wage that is suitable to live off then they shouldnt play at being employers should they?

ironically enough, when the minimum wage is lower than the living wage then those employees have to claim benefits to make up for the income, and who's piggy bank does THAT come out of?

also, living wage earners pay more tax alongside claiming fewer benefits. i dont know about you, but im tired of my taxes going towards helping other working people just because employees can get away with paying wages that the government themselves admit is not enough to live on

The problem then is that if smaller businesses can't afford to pay the wage and stop playing at being employers, what happens to the employees. They become unemployed and have to claim benefits. It's a never ending circle.

[ion]

Vote Corbyn out ,he will tell you anything to get your votes

[Steve Zodiak]

He will promise you the world to get your votes, remember how the lib undemocratics sold you out

As much as I dislike Corbyn, he is not alone. They will all make false promises to get votes. It's just a matter of trying to pick the best of a bad bunch.

[bluebirdoct1962]

He will promise you the world to get your votes, remember how the lib undemocratics sold you out

As much as I dislike Corbyn, he is not alone. They will all make false promises to get votes. It's just a matter of trying to pick the best of a bad bunch.

That’s exactly my view of politics in a nutshell mate.

[Crayfish]

I've found out you can tell your union that you don't want to make a political contribution out of your union fees , that way you don't have to give to Corbyn but are still covered for work purposes

funny thing is, corbyn is fighting to give you more protections at work and increase union rights. the current gov voted in a number of rules that limit the unions power to help you as an employee....

Problem is after a few years of Marxist economics you want actually have a job in which to have your rights protected.

[ion]

Yes to some extent you are right,but come on Corbyn and Diane Abbott running the country that's a frightening thought,plus he sides with terrorist organisations he is a c**t,I have voted labour in the past don't let sentiment/loyalty make you vote for him

[Fusilier52]

I've found out you can tell your union that you don't want to make a political contribution out of your union fees , that way you don't have to give to Corbyn but are still covered for work purposes

funny thing is, corbyn is fighting to give you more protections at work and increase union rights. the current gov voted in a number of rules that limit the unions power to help you as an employee....

he is also all for cheap labour arriving from eastern Europe...

whilst also trying to raise the minumum wage...

and whos piggy bank money will the minimum wage come from ? Corbyn like Blair encourages immigration because thats why the vote lies , 3 something million extra flooding the UK during the Blair /Brown tenure, ever wondered why class room numbers and hospital waiting times have increased and the chance of seeing a doctor has diminished , the race to the bottom started in 1997

great question!

answer: the employers! if an employer cant afford to pay a wage that is suitable to live off then they shouldnt play at being employers should they?

ironically enough, when the minimum wage is lower than the living wage then those employees have to claim benefits to make up for the income, and who's piggy bank does THAT come out of?

also, living wage earners pay more tax alongside claiming fewer benefits. i dont know about you, but im tired of my taxes going towards helping other working people just because employees can get away with paying wages that the government themselves admit is not enough to live on

It always makes me laugh when i see some say "where's the money to raise minimum wage going to come from" as if they think the government pays everyones wages

and it makes me laugh when someone assumes that I didn't know who pays the minimum wage , ( you obviously haven't grasped the concept of a rhetorical question )
I'm tired of my taxes paying paying to those who can't be arsed to work , I've just spent a few days in Cambridge and guess what all the hotel staff were Polish and before anyone spouts out the race card,I have alot of time for that particular nation but if they're willing to work then why can't our "homegrown" talent have the same mindset of working hard and develop their skills to better them selves .I wouldn't like to start or run my own business for many reasons but the financial burden on employers to comply with legislation , training, national insurance, business rates etc and not forgetting the profit margins for small business no wonder its not universally welcome .

[bluesince62]

He will promise you the world to get your votes, remember how the lib undemocratics sold you out

As much as I dislike Corbyn, he is not alone. They will all make false promises to get votes. It's just a matter of trying to pick the best of a bad bunch.

Was thinking the same thing myself,title should read "politicians, don't listen to em"

[rumpo kid]

Amazed me for years how this is tolerated..as if the statements they make never happened. Until they’re sacked for misleading the public, it’ll never change.

Everything is in ‘Yes Minister’ and the sequel.

[mucker]

Leader of the opposition salary £143000.That’s a bit better than minimum wage.If a true socialist everyone should be paid the same .So we all get £143000 or Mr.C gets minimum wage too.One rule for us etc..

[BluebirdWhitchurch]

Leader of the opposition salary £143000.That’s a bit better than minimum wage.If a true socialist everyone should be paid the same .So we all get £143000 or Mr.C gets minimum wage too.One rule for us etc..

Absolutely clueless people on here no wonder the country’s in its current state

[Bluebina]

Yes to some extent you are right,but come on Corbyn and Diane Abbott running the country that's a frightening thought,plus he sides with terrorist organisations he is a c**t,I have voted labour in the past don't let sentiment/loyalty make you vote for him

And he’ll team up with that a jimmy Krankie SNP leader and allow them independence!

[splottthedog]

Leader of the opposition salary £143000.That’s a bit better than minimum wage.If a true socialist everyone should be paid the same .So we all get £143000 or Mr.C gets minimum wage too.One rule for us etc..

You're confusing socialism with communism there.

Socialism isnt everyone getting the same. Its greater parity between jobs and a greater wealth distribution.

[Pennydarrenblue]

He will promise you the world to get your votes, remember how the lib undemocratics sold you out

And please you don’t fall again for Johnson’s lies. And he’s the PM.

[piledriver64]

He will promise you the world to get your votes, remember how the lib undemocratics sold you out

You May have a point but where your point falls down is what are the options?

Are you seriously claiming that Boris is trustworthy!!??

He wouldn’t even decide whether he was for or against Brexit until he thought leave might win.

Personally I think nowadays I trust virtually no politicians but have to judge on their policies.

If people just compared policies I think this election would be a lot closer between the Tories and Labour than it will be if Corbin becomes the centre of the argument because he’s just not popular.

[Jock]

Leader of the opposition salary £143000.That’s a bit better than minimum wage.If a true socialist everyone should be paid the same .So we all get £143000 or Mr.C gets minimum wage too.One rule for us etc..

You're confusing socialism with communism there.

Socialism isnt everyone getting the same. Its greater parity between jobs and a greater wealth distribution.

Corbyn and McDonnell are Marxists,
It’s been proven capitalism is the best system to lift people out of poverty, problem now is way too much wealth is owned by a tiny amount of people with not enough trickling down and that should be addressed but not with Corbyns all property is theft philosophy.

[Popeye Bluebird]

Stop paying your union fees, cut off his funding and don't vote for him ,if you voted labour all your life does not mean you got to carry on voting for a party lead by an IRA sympathiser .

U ok Hun?

[maccydee]

He will promise you the world to get your votes, remember how the lib undemocratics sold you out

What has Corbyn got to do with the Lib Dem’s?

[Orgz]

They all lie... whatever name they take
Same face
Different mask
Politics the great Illusion to make us all think we have some freedom.

[marky1927]

that is why today's students are in so much debt, the lib dems voted to increase their fees,now they are trying to gain their vote, they are all liars.

[GENERAL CHAT]

Corbin.jpg

Looks about right...

[ffs]

Corbyn is very different which is why the elite hate him. The lower class, and what's left of the middle class, should ALL be voting for Corbyn