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I think the only fact here is that both sets of fanbases have their own sets of arseholes. So don't try and gloss it up otherwise.

Oh I’m sure that is the case, as of course we have some idiots too. However there does seem to be a larger hatred towards us than there is towards you. Which is why you will never hear any chants about Mikey Dye but I wouldn’t at all be surprised to hear some horse noises or hissing come the weekend.

You can tell also just by glancing at the forums. The amount of myths and fantasy made up on here about Swansea is staggering at times, this week it has seemed to be a daily occurrence.

Oh don't. I agree, You'll probably hear some chants from very few idiots our end. However, I also guarantee there will be airplane gestures and the like at us. Don't kid yourself it won't happen.

You're not morally superior. All football clubs have their idiots. Even after all the racism in the news the last week some idiot got ejected at Old Trafford for it.

Let's just agree the majority of our fans are just that fans of their own club. I mean you'd never find me posting on another clubs messageboard...

whether or not they sing stuff about IW (who i've never known to be a city fan btw) or not, i hate the idea oh singing about pedophilia or anything similar...using the exploitation of kids for a chant

also roathie, love how you insinuate that jacks somehow have more class overall. its approx 20k people each separated by a bit of motorway, to suggest one crowd has more class than the other is silly imo, but im sure we will all be treated to some paragraphs as to why you think that's true...

I would say we do have more class as a fanbase, not being argumentative here, I genuinely believe that.

I don’t for one second think we would ever celebrate the death of a Cardiff City fan or player for that matter. In fact our silences are respected impeccably and we arrange charity football matches to raise money for their families.

“Gas a Jack” chant is something that has been sung not just by a silly few but the majority of the singing section of your stadium on more than one occasion, which is mocking the death of one of our players and Welsh players. One of our fans was killed by a horse in Rotherham and the amount of Cardiff fans I have seen mock that is horrendous, even texting messages to the screen at the millennium stadium at our Cup final mocking the death of Terry.

You guys fall over yourselves to claim some sort of superiority when it comes to “firms” and all that nonsense, so if a strip of motorway is enough to make the difference in your opinion in that department then surely it isn’t beyond the realms of possibility that the behaviour of both fans is also demonstrably different.

If its demonstrably different then you would have to demonstrate it i suppose.

for what its worth, those chants are disgusting and talking about firms is nonsense.

however, if you think your fans are different you should check out planet swans, specifically the thread on how to respond to the "we are your capital" chants. doesnt take long before IW and Sala are mentioned...about as classy as the OP imo

I think the only fact here is that both sets of fanbases have their own sets of arseholes. So don't try and gloss it up otherwise.

Oh I’m sure that is the case, as of course we have some idiots too. However there does seem to be a larger hatred towards us than there is towards you. Which is why you will never hear any chants about Mikey Dye but I wouldn’t at all be surprised to hear some horse noises or hissing come the weekend.

You can tell also just by glancing at the forums. The amount of myths and fantasy made up on here about Swansea is staggering at times, this week it has seemed to be a daily occurrence.

Oh don't. I agree, You'll probably hear some chants from very few idiots our end. However, I also guarantee there will be airplane gestures and the like at us. Don't kid yourself it won't happen.

You're not morally superior. All football clubs have their idiots. Even after all the racism in the news the last week some idiot got ejected at Old Trafford for it.

Let's just agree the majority of our fans are just that fans of their own club. I mean you'd never find me posting on another clubs messageboard...

There won’t be, and on the off chance that there is then it will literally be a p*ssed up one or two idiots that will soon be put in their place.

I have literally seen and heard thousands of Cardiff fans mock either Alan Davies or Terry Coles, in fact probably over 10,000. That isn’t including those chuckling and not joining in. Comparing that sort of scale to an individual idiot is chalk and cheese really.

There is a different feeling towards you than there is towards us, that is the cause of it. Whether you think that is morally superior or just a difference in level of hatred is up to you to determine I guess. But if any set of fan is going to mock the dead en masse then the odds are heavily stacked towards your lot, history dictates that.

There is not a chance on earth we have ever done that or ever will in my opinion.

I think the only fact here is that both sets of fanbases have their own sets of arseholes. So don't try and gloss it up otherwise.

Oh I’m sure that is the case, as of course we have some idiots too. However there does seem to be a larger hatred towards us than there is towards you. Which is why you will never hear any chants about Mikey Dye but I wouldn’t at all be surprised to hear some horse noises or hissing come the weekend.

You can tell also just by glancing at the forums. The amount of myths and fantasy made up on here about Swansea is staggering at times, this week it has seemed to be a daily occurrence.

It's hardly one sided. There is a thread on planet swamp dedicated to return chants for us. They are all getting on board lol

whether or not they sing stuff about IW (who i've never known to be a city fan btw) or not, i hate the idea oh singing about pedophilia or anything similar...using the exploitation of kids for a chant

also roathie, love how you insinuate that jacks somehow have more class overall. its approx 20k people each separated by a bit of motorway, to suggest one crowd has more class than the other is silly imo, but im sure we will all be treated to some paragraphs as to why you think that's true...

I would say we do have more class as a fanbase, not being argumentative here, I genuinely believe that.

I don’t for one second think we would ever celebrate the death of a Cardiff City fan or player for that matter. In fact our silences are respected impeccably and we arrange charity football matches to raise money for their families.

“Gas a Jack” chant is something that has been sung not just by a silly few but the majority of the singing section of your stadium on more than one occasion, which is mocking the death of one of our players and Welsh players. One of our fans was killed by a horse in Rotherham and the amount of Cardiff fans I have seen mock that is horrendous, even texting messages to the screen at the millennium stadium at our Cup final mocking the death of Terry.

You guys fall over yourselves to claim some sort of superiority when it comes to “firms” and all that nonsense, so if a strip of motorway is enough to make the difference in your opinion in that department then surely it isn’t beyond the realms of possibility that the behaviour of both fans is also demonstrably different.

If its demonstrably different then you would have to demonstrate it i suppose.

for what its worth, those chants are disgusting and talking about firms is nonsense.

however, if you think your fans are different you should check out planet swans, specifically the thread on how to respond to the "we are your capital" chants. doesnt take long before IW and Sala are mentioned...about as classy as the OP imo

Well we have demonstrated it, that’s the point. We have never mocked your dead, you have done it to us en masse and regularly.

I have read that thread you refer to and you are being intentionally dishonest there. When you say “Sala” is mentioned... you mean you not paying you mean? That’s very different to mocking his death, most clubs fans probably shadow the sentiments that you should pay for him. Not sure what your point on that is.

It's hardly one sided. There is a thread on planet swamp dedicated to return chants for us. They are all getting on board lol

Chanting is fine, I have not stated otherwise.

What I said was, the level of hate towards our club from your lot leads you to lower depths than ours. That isn’t opinion, that is historical fact. Both clubs have had tragedies yet these tragedies are respected one side and mocked on the other.

Show me any suggested chant on there that is anyway beyond the pale. You won’t find one, it’s all good humour and banter. You won’t find anything made up either like Warnock is a Swansea fan.

whether or not they sing stuff about IW (who i've never known to be a city fan btw) or not, i hate the idea oh singing about pedophilia or anything similar...using the exploitation of kids for a chant

also roathie, love how you insinuate that jacks somehow have more class overall. its approx 20k people each separated by a bit of motorway, to suggest one crowd has more class than the other is silly imo, but im sure we will all be treated to some paragraphs as to why you think that's true...

I would say we do have more class as a fanbase, not being argumentative here, I genuinely believe that.

I don’t for one second think we would ever celebrate the death of a Cardiff City fan or player for that matter. In fact our silences are respected impeccably and we arrange charity football matches to raise money for their families.

“Gas a Jack” chant is something that has been sung not just by a silly few but the majority of the singing section of your stadium on more than one occasion, which is mocking the death of one of our players and Welsh players. One of our fans was killed by a horse in Rotherham and the amount of Cardiff fans I have seen mock that is horrendous, even texting messages to the screen at the millennium stadium at our Cup final mocking the death of Terry.

You guys fall over yourselves to claim some sort of superiority when it comes to “firms” and all that nonsense, so if a strip of motorway is enough to make the difference in your opinion in that department then surely it isn’t beyond the realms of possibility that the behaviour of both fans is also demonstrably different.

If its demonstrably different then you would have to demonstrate it i suppose.

for what its worth, those chants are disgusting and talking about firms is nonsense.

however, if you think your fans are different you should check out planet swans, specifically the thread on how to respond to the "we are your capital" chants. doesnt take long before IW and Sala are mentioned...about as classy as the OP imo

Well we have demonstrated it, that’s the point. We have never mocked your dead, you have done it to us en masse and regularly.

I have read that thread you refer to and you are being intentionally dishonest there. When you say “Sala” is mentioned... you mean you not paying you mean? That’s very different to mocking his death, most clubs fans probably shadow the sentiments that you should pay for him. Not sure what your point on that is.

tbh i personally think that anything involving the death of a player (including subsequent legal issues) arent exactly something you can defend. I'm sure many cardiff fans think we should pay the money, but it would be incredibly distasteful to sing it from the stands. using a man who died so young as a song because they dont like being reminded that cardiff is the capital...i'd be embarrassed, i'd imagine you would be too.

tbh i personally think that anything involving the death of a player (including subsequent legal issues) arent exactly something you can defend. I'm sure many cardiff fans think we should pay the money, but it would be incredibly distasteful to sing it from the stands. using a man who died so young as a song because they dont like being reminded that cardiff is the capital...i'd be embarrassed, i'd imagine you would be too.

I disagree, I think it is perfectly reasonable that the football fraternity demand you pay the money you owe to Nantes, there is nothing wrong with that in the slightest and hope opposing fans make that clear on a weekly basis personally. They aren’t using his death at all, that’s just the way you are spinning it because it makes you feel uncomfortable, they are using the fact you aren’t paying and that many Cardiff fans are supporting that decision.

tbh i personally think that anything involving the death of a player (including subsequent legal issues) arent exactly something you can defend. I'm sure many cardiff fans think we should pay the money, but it would be incredibly distasteful to sing it from the stands. using a man who died so young as a song because they dont like being reminded that cardiff is the capital...i'd be embarrassed, i'd imagine you would be too.

I disagree, I think it is perfectly reasonable that the football fraternity demand you pay the money you owe to Nantes, there is nothing wrong with that in the slightest and hope opposing fans make that clear on a weekly basis personally. They aren’t using his death at all, that’s just the way you are spinning it because it makes you feel uncomfortable, they are using the fact you aren’t paying and that many Cardiff fans are supporting that decision.

fine if you believe it, but its no more the football fraternity's place to comment on our financial affairs than it is for them to comment on the crimes of your employees (or your sub-contractors employees) i.e. the OP

but its not the way i'm spinning it. there is only one reason that the fee is being disputed and you know what that reason is. We have historically had other unpaid debts which other fans havent jumped on, but they will this one because of the personal nature of it.

fine if you believe it, but its no more the football fraternity's place to comment on our financial affairs than it is for them to comment on the crimes of your employees (or your sub-contractors employees) i.e. the OP

but its not the way i'm spinning it. there is only one reason that the fee is being disputed and you know what that reason is. We have historically had other unpaid debts which other fans havent jumped on, but they will this one because of the personal nature of it.

Of course it is. Your club has direct control on its conduct with regards to transfers and can rightly be critiqued, our club has no influence on the stadium managements choice of security or stewarding staff. We play there, we do not employ or sub contract anyone, that is the owners of the stadium. They provide staff for the rugby and concerts also, nothing to do with the club what so ever.

You are definitely spinning it. You are insinuating that people are using Sala’s death to have a go at you, which is absurd. We all stood as one in absolute respect when the news broke and would have continued so without question. The footballing fraternity only turned on you because as a result of the death you tried to get out of the payment. To be reminded that you should pay is absolutely fine and actively encouraged. By pretending we are using the death of him to have a go at you is perversely actually using his death as a shield to block criticism of your decision not to pay, the only people mentioning his death in context is you.

I think the only fact here is that both sets of fanbases have their own sets of arseholes. So don't try and gloss it up otherwise.

Oh I’m sure that is the case, as of course we have some idiots too. However there does seem to be a larger hatred towards us than there is towards you. Which is why you will never hear any chants about Mikey Dye but I wouldn’t at all be surprised to hear some horse noises or hissing come the weekend.

You can tell also just by glancing at the forums. The amount of myths and fantasy made up on here about Swansea is staggering at times, this week it has seemed to be a daily occurrence.

Oh don't. I agree, You'll probably hear some chants from very few idiots our end. However, I also guarantee there will be airplane gestures and the like at us. Don't kid yourself it won't happen.

You're not morally superior. All football clubs have their idiots. Even after all the racism in the news the last week some idiot got ejected at Old Trafford for it.

Let's just agree the majority of our fans are just that fans of their own club. I mean you'd never find me posting on another clubs messageboard...

There won’t be, and on the off chance that there is then it will literally be a p*ssed up one or two idiots that will soon be put in their place.

I have literally seen and heard thousands of Cardiff fans mock either Alan Davies or Terry Coles, in fact probably over 10,000. That isn’t including those chuckling and not joining in. Comparing that sort of scale to an individual idiot is chalk and cheese really.

There is a different feeling towards you than there is towards us, that is the cause of it. Whether you think that is morally superior or just a difference in level of hatred is up to you to determine I guess. But if any set of fan is going to mock the dead en masse then the odds are heavily stacked towards your lot, history dictates that.

There is not a chance on earth we have ever done that or ever will in my opinion.

Yep it’s a poor part of our history that the deaths of Terry Coles and Alan Davies were sung about and even mentioned at one of our greatest days.

But, had any of our players or fans died in such circumstances I’m sure your idiots would have.

Let’s see if there’s no plane songs or gestures shall we?

So roathy true identity has finally been revealed.

About time.

I think the only fact here is that both sets of fanbases have their own sets of arseholes. So don't try and gloss it up otherwise.

Oh I’m sure that is the case, as of course we have some idiots too. However there does seem to be a larger hatred towards us than there is towards you. Which is why you will never hear any chants about Mikey Dye but I wouldn’t at all be surprised to hear some horse noises or hissing come the weekend.

You can tell also just by glancing at the forums. The amount of myths and fantasy made up on here about Swansea is staggering at times, this week it has seemed to be a daily occurrence.

Oh don't. I agree, You'll probably hear some chants from very few idiots our end. However, I also guarantee there will be airplane gestures and the like at us. Don't kid yourself it won't happen.

You're not morally superior. All football clubs have their idiots. Even after all the racism in the news the last week some idiot got ejected at Old Trafford for it.

Let's just agree the majority of our fans are just that fans of their own club. I mean you'd never find me posting on another clubs messageboard...

There won’t be, and on the off chance that there is then it will literally be a p*ssed up one or two idiots that will soon be put in their place.

I have literally seen and heard thousands of Cardiff fans mock either Alan Davies or Terry Coles, in fact probably over 10,000. That isn’t including those chuckling and not joining in. Comparing that sort of scale to an individual idiot is chalk and cheese really.

There is a different feeling towards you than there is towards us, that is the cause of it. Whether you think that is morally superior or just a difference in level of hatred is up to you to determine I guess. But if any set of fan is going to mock the dead en masse then the odds are heavily stacked towards your lot, history dictates that.

There is not a chance on earth we have ever done that or ever will in my opinion.

You're talking completely out of your arse.
Stop acting like you're innocent little angels, you lot are equally as bad so stop playing the victim you gimp

So roathy true identity has finally been revealed.

About time.

The guy has genuine mental problems

So roathy true identity has finally been revealed.

About time.

The guy has genuine mental problems

you mean....its been roathie the whole time???? i just thought all swansea fans were like that?

i suppose if that were true then their main songs would all start "well, actually.."

So roathy true identity has finally been revealed.

About time.

The guy has genuine mental problems

I ignore him now as best I can but it's quite funny watching him talking to himself accross the two accounts on this thread.

The boards gone now though, to many good posters have left, and getting rid of him really will be a case of closing the stable door after the horse has bolted sadly.

True mate.. he has no respect for mb protocol. There's some decent Swansea posters on here, and theyr'e welcome.

Pity.. he's one of those twats who gobs off in the ether. In the good old days, he'd just be smacked out for it.

So roathy true identity has finally been revealed.

About time.

The guy has genuine mental problems

I ignore him now as best I can but it's quite funny watching him talking to himself accross the two accounts on this thread.

The boards gone now though, to many good posters have left, and getting rid of him really will be a case of closing the stable door after the horse has bolted sadly.

I never answer and if he appears on a thread I’m debating I’m out.

I post less and less now.

I notice Luke - 2blue2handle has left among others. Another good poster gone but Annis doesn’t mind because the usual suspects on here keep feeding the troll and the hits keep coming for him.

Yep it’s a poor part of our history that the deaths of Terry Coles and Alan Davies were sung about and even mentioned at one of our greatest days.

But, had any of our players or fans died in such circumstances I’m sure your idiots would have.

Let’s see if there’s no plane songs or gestures shall we?

They did, Mikey Dye. We have always been nothing but respectful.

As I said if there are any stupid gestures on the weekend it will be a pissed up idiot and not en masse as yours has been.

You're talking completely out of your arse.
Stop acting like you're innocent little angels, you lot are equally as bad so stop playing the victim you gimp

If we are equally as bad then there will be songs chanted en masse regarding the death of your fan then yes? Where was that then?

Exactly.

I ignore him now as best I can but it's quite funny watching him talking to himself accross the two accounts on this thread.

The boards gone now though, to many good posters have left, and getting rid of him really will be a case of closing the stable door after the horse has bolted sadly.

Two accounts? What have I missed here then? Apart from some more stunning paranoia of course

And I see we are back to crying that I am allowed to post and make good points because you don’t want to hear them. Groundhog Day

I never answer and if he appears on a thread I’m debating I’m out.

I post less and less now.

I notice Luke - 2blue2handle has left among others. Another good poster gone but Annis doesn’t mind because the usual suspects on here keep feeding the troll and the hits keep coming for him.

Good news on both counts.

I personally think as soon as all of the ones that are mentally weak and get upset that someone is allowed to have their say are off the forum. The better for everyone, it means you get less debates that end up with one of them coming in with the sole intention to destroy it because they cannot take the fact someone makes a point and does not rise to the bait.

Good riddance.

True mate.. he has no respect for mb protocol. There's some decent Swansea posters on here, and theyr'e welcome.

Pity.. he's one of those twats who gobs off in the ether. In the good old days, he'd just be smacked out for it.

Message board protocol? What like debating your point and not abusing people you mean?

Or do you actually mean “annoyingly not backing down and even having the gall to firm up his points with facts, when people abuse him?”

I assume it’s the latter.

Now my fan mail is up to date, see you after the match.