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Re: Brexit no deal good news?

Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:15 pm

BlueGog wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:The good news of a no deal Brexit? duty free will be returning in EU airports so cheap booze ect ect :occasion5:

No deal means a lot more good news than just that
Taking back our borders
Taking back our judicial services
Taking back our fishing borders
Controling our trade deals
£250 million saving a week on eu membership
I can go on but im sure youve beard it all before



Yes but remainers dont believe it? :laughing6:


Just as a matter of interest this chart shows you exactly the uk budget and the % spent on education, defence etc. In the grand scheme of things, I'm sure you'll agree the contribution sent to the EU doesn't look enormous does it???



That's as misleading as anything that came out of the leave campaign. 32.5 million taxpayers at 11.8p per day equates to
£ 26.8 million per week or 1.3 billion per year. Nobody pays an EU contribution individually out of their tax ( yet ) so its an absolutely arbitrary figure. We pay as a nation around 8x that figure ( net ) and whatever tax pot we pay it from diminishes what we have available to spend as we may otherwise please.

Re: Brexit no deal good news?

Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:44 pm

moonboots wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Tbailey wrote:
Saving 250 million a week?! are you sure you are talking about Wales here? England may benefit from this but considering Wales is a net beneficiary from the EU you couldn't be further away from the truth. :shock:


Wales receives a whopping £350m per year in funding from the EU (although that is not a net figure). Sounds like a lot of money until you realise that Wales receives £16 BILLION form Westminster in the form of direct grants and partial tax raised in Wales.

The EU contribution amounts to 0.3% of the money the Welsh Government has available has to spend. The UK would save at least £12 billion per year on leaving the EU and if that money was reinvested into the NHS the Welsh Government would receive nearly an extra £1 Billion in funding, nearly 3 times what the generous EU give us now.

TBH EU funding in Wales is a bigger exaggeration than anything Boris could put on the side of a bus!

Are you saying that £350m is 0.3% of £16billion?
Also, are you suggesting that if the British state will be £12 billion better off outside of Europe they would give Wales £1 billion. I stand to be corrected on the first point(too many zeros for me to work out). However I'm pretty sure Wales wouldn't get £1 billion....more like £600m based on population I believe.

And even so, I doubt that we'd get our fair share. For example, Wales has about 11% of the UK rail network, about 5% of the UK population yet for many years we've only received around 1% of UK rail infrastructure investment. That's a raw deal if ever there was one.
Also Bo Jo in the past has said he'd rather invest a pound in London than Strathclyde. That seems to be Tory policy at the expense of places like Wales when you consider how much spent on crossrail 1&2 as well as all the other major infrastructure projects in London and the SE. Wales needs major investment in our infrastructure to help us rise out of poverty. I have no confidence in the UK government to provide the money needed.