Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:49 pm
JackSensealot wrote:pembroke allan wrote:JackSensealot wrote:eddiep wrote:We cant pass the ball
We cant keep the ball
We have no pace
We have no goal poachers
Shit academy with no cardiff way
Weve gone from a poor premier team
To a poor champ team.
How id love to see us slam a decent team
3 v 0 with 77%
Possession.
But thats unlikely.
Been unlikely since Dave Jones tbh.
Love Warnock, but love football too
Allan is not going to be happy with you saying that, reach for the hard hat
Hes right but at end day it got us promoted did your passing game get you anywhere near it last season? 77% possession didnt get Fulham a win yesterday at home ! Football is about different styles love or hate it at end day results matter not possession.![]()
Ps you obviously dont know this poster or you know he loves being negative especially
about us!
Last season it gave us a much needed consolidation season.
Prior to that it gave us 3 promotions and 7 seasons in the top flight as well as a major trophy and a European run![]()
Thanks for asking.
Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:16 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Trefelin06 wrote:Having been reading pembroke allan over the years its clear any swansea success kills him. Who can blame him. Over the last decade we have become the team that he dreams of cardiff. Imagine if cardiff played possession football with a team full of academy products,having recently been in the premier league for 7 seasons, went on a european cup run beating valencia away, having players being sold for 40million +, having ex players and managers making contributions in the premier league, brendon rodgers, sinclair, dan james, gylfi, oli mc burnie, tammy the list goes on. In reality he has to contend with his team buying giants,long throws, transfer record of 9million, one season wonders in the prem and praying each day for bamba to come and save the team.
What a plonker you are no wish to be like Swansea I like my club no matter how we play? 50yrs supporting club teaches you a lot.... your problem is history started only when you were in premier league! So what you sold 40 odd million ££££s of players remind us what and where it got you? Yank owners stripping
the finances away from club! And what league you are in now?how long will this manager last as long as past 7 or 8? As for Valencia a team bottom of their league havent won in god knows how many games fantastic result..... all teams that play in any league make a contribution of kinds good bad or otherwise you were small team in a big pond nothing more.
Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:17 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Trefelin06 wrote:Having been reading pembroke allan over the years its clear any swansea success kills him. Who can blame him. Over the last decade we have become the team that he dreams of cardiff. Imagine if cardiff played possession football with a team full of academy products,having recently been in the premier league for 7 seasons, went on a european cup run beating valencia away, having players being sold for 40million +, having ex players and managers making contributions in the premier league, brendon rodgers, sinclair, dan james, gylfi, oli mc burnie, tammy the list goes on. In reality he has to contend with his team buying giants,long throws, transfer record of 9million, one season wonders in the prem and praying each day for bamba to come and save the team.
What a plonker you are no wish to be like Swansea I like my club no matter how we play? 50yrs supporting club teaches you a lot.... your problem is history started only when you were in premier league! So what you sold 40 odd million ££££s of players remind us what and where it got you? Yank owners stripping
the finances away from club! And what league you are in now?how long will this manager last as long as past 7 or 8? As for Valencia a team bottom of their league havent won in god knows how many games fantastic result..... all teams that play in any league make a contribution of kinds good bad or otherwise you were small team in a big pond nothing more.
Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:32 pm
stuey1965 wrote:Watching the Jack's on tv
Just noticed how the Jack's manager looks just like a local.
His father must have been his mother, his sister must have been his brother.
One ugly mother!!!
Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:57 pm
fred keenor wrote:The transfer window is still open for the continent, expect more departures from the jacks.
They also have a very small squad.
Good start though and they do seem fortunate in picking untested managers at this level.
His dad is keith cooper who resigned from cardiff city corporate matchday hosts in the last week.
Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:15 pm
stuey1965 wrote:Watching the Jack's on tv
Just noticed how the Jack's manager looks just like a local.
His father must have been his mother, his sister must have been his brother.
One ugly mother!!!
Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:32 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Trefelin06 wrote:Having been reading pembroke allan over the years its clear any swansea success kills him. Who can blame him. Over the last decade we have become the team that he dreams of cardiff. Imagine if cardiff played possession football with a team full of academy products,having recently been in the premier league for 7 seasons, went on a european cup run beating valencia away, having players being sold for 40million +, having ex players and managers making contributions in the premier league, brendon rodgers, sinclair, dan james, gylfi, oli mc burnie, tammy the list goes on. In reality he has to contend with his team buying giants,long throws, transfer record of 9million, one season wonders in the prem and praying each day for bamba to come and save the team.
What a plonker you are no wish to be like Swansea I like my club no matter how we play? 50yrs supporting club teaches you a lot.... your problem is history started only when you were in premier league! So what you sold 40 odd million ££££s of players remind us what and where it got you? Yank owners stripping
the finances away from club! And what league you are in now?how long will this manager last as long as past 7 or 8? As for Valencia a team bottom of their league havent won in god knows how many games fantastic result..... all teams that play in any league make a contribution of kinds good bad or otherwise you were small team in a big pond nothing more.
Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:36 pm
pembroke allan wrote:
That's ok but like said possession football never won a game and doesn't garauntee promotion? so if dont go up again you'll be consolidating again? And with your track record it will be with a new manager and new players..
Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:55 am
Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:47 am
Trefelin06 wrote:Having been reading pembroke allan over the years its clear any swansea success kills him. Who can blame him. Over the last decade we have become the team that he dreams of cardiff. Imagine if cardiff played possession football with a team full of academy products,having recently been in the premier league for 7 seasons, went on a european cup run beating valencia away, having players being sold for 40million +, having ex players and managers making contributions in the premier league, brendon rodgers, sinclair, dan james, gylfi, oli mc burnie, tammy the list goes on. In reality he has to contend with his team buying giants,long throws, transfer record of 9million, one season wonders in the prem and praying each day for bamba to come and save the team.
Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:41 am
JackSensealot wrote:A stat for you too...
We have only lost once at home in 2019.
And that was to Manchester City in a match where it is widely accepted we should have won after outplaying then and losing it on the ridiculous non-VAR debacle with the offside goal and incorrect penalty gifting them 2 late goals to beat us 3-2, even Pep apologised for it.
Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:46 am
JackSensealot wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Trefelin06 wrote:Having been reading pembroke allan over the years its clear any swansea success kills him. Who can blame him. Over the last decade we have become the team that he dreams of cardiff. Imagine if cardiff played possession football with a team full of academy products,having recently been in the premier league for 7 seasons, went on a european cup run beating valencia away, having players being sold for 40million +, having ex players and managers making contributions in the premier league, brendon rodgers, sinclair, dan james, gylfi, oli mc burnie, tammy the list goes on. In reality he has to contend with his team buying giants,long throws, transfer record of 9million, one season wonders in the prem and praying each day for bamba to come and save the team.
What a plonker you are no wish to be like Swansea I like my club no matter how we play? 50yrs supporting club teaches you a lot.... your problem is history started only when you were in premier league! So what you sold 40 odd million ££££s of players remind us what and where it got you? Yank owners stripping
the finances away from club! And what league you are in now?how long will this manager last as long as past 7 or 8? As for Valencia a team bottom of their league havent won in god knows how many games fantastic result..... all teams that play in any league make a contribution of kinds good bad or otherwise you were small team in a big pond nothing more.
This is primarily why there are Swansea fans on this forum, it’s to correct the “creative truths” that fly around this forum as the rivalry intensified in people’s minds. Anyway....
Selling Gylfi for £45m - (I assume that’s who you are referring to?) got us to return to the style of play we love with a youthful and exciting side, Gylfi although excellent as a player stifled us as an attacking free flowing unit and all too often we were relying on set pieces, selling him gave us a chance of survival, keeping him would have almost guaranteed it.
Beating Valencia away - they were not bottom of their league, only 4 weeks had gone in La Liga and they had just narrowly lost 3-2 to Barcelona after beating Malaga in their opening game. They finished 8th that season. Our victory over them was total football and heralded as one of the great British away performances in Europe and even received a standing ovation in the Mestalla when De Guzman scored, Guilleme Balague said it was extremely rare and the last team to have that reaction was Real Madrid galacticos.
Yank owners taking funds away from the club - that’s not true, they haven’t taken anything away from the club. The accounts are there for you to see. You have spent less than you received this season; so do you think Tan has stripped the club? (He hasn’t by the way).
Don’t mind rivalry and football discussion Allan, but please don’t lie. Next you will be peddling the myth that companies went bust due to the CVA 20 years ago....
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:00 am
Bonner wrote:JackSensealot wrote:A stat for you too...
We have only lost once at home in 2019.
And that was to Manchester City in a match where it is widely accepted we should have won after outplaying then and losing it on the ridiculous non-VAR debacle with the offside goal and incorrect penalty gifting them 2 late goals to beat us 3-2, even Pep apologised for it.
A second home defeat coming up soon then ..
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:04 am
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
It’s all opinions mate and I’m sure all football forums (including PS) have a few myths and untruths as well as a few truths.
Again, it’s what rivalry is all about - if a fan isn’t 100% sure he may well post the pest case scenario for their rivals. Not saying you’re doing it or anyone else in here is, but it’s what happens.
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:14 am
JackSensealot wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
It’s all opinions mate and I’m sure all football forums (including PS) have a few myths and untruths as well as a few truths.
Again, it’s what rivalry is all about - if a fan isn’t 100% sure he may well post the pest case scenario for their rivals. Not saying you’re doing it or anyone else in here is, but it’s what happens.
But it’s not an opinion that Valencia were bottom of La Liga, it’s just incorrect information. It’s not an opinion that companies went bust due to the CVA nearly 20 years ago, it’s a fact that none did. It’s not an opinion that the Americans are taking money from the club, they aren’t.
Opinions are one thing, mis truths are another and that’s what I am addressing. I’m sure everyone can see through such nonsense disguised as ‘opinion’ like “we will smash you 10-0” without me having to point it out. I’m just clarifying the facts.
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:17 am
JackSensealot wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
It’s all opinions mate and I’m sure all football forums (including PS) have a few myths and untruths as well as a few truths.
Again, it’s what rivalry is all about - if a fan isn’t 100% sure he may well post the pest case scenario for their rivals. Not saying you’re doing it or anyone else in here is, but it’s what happens.
But it’s not an opinion that Valencia were bottom of La Liga, it’s just incorrect information. It’s not an opinion that companies went bust due to the CVA nearly 20 years ago, it’s a fact that none did. It’s not an opinion that the Americans are taking money from the club, they aren’t.
Opinions are one thing, mis truths are another and that’s what I am addressing. I’m sure everyone can see through such nonsense disguised as ‘opinion’ like “we will smash you 10-0” without me having to point it out. I’m just clarifying the facts.
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:19 am
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:JackSensealot wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
It’s all opinions mate and I’m sure all football forums (including PS) have a few myths and untruths as well as a few truths.
Again, it’s what rivalry is all about - if a fan isn’t 100% sure he may well post the pest case scenario for their rivals. Not saying you’re doing it or anyone else in here is, but it’s what happens.
But it’s not an opinion that Valencia were bottom of La Liga, it’s just incorrect information. It’s not an opinion that companies went bust due to the CVA nearly 20 years ago, it’s a fact that none did. It’s not an opinion that the Americans are taking money from the club, they aren’t.
Opinions are one thing, mis truths are another and that’s what I am addressing. I’m sure everyone can see through such nonsense disguised as ‘opinion’ like “we will smash you 10-0” without me having to point it out. I’m just clarifying the facts.
I actually disagree with one of the above and I have it on good authority that I’m right. You should be able to guess which one that is.
Don’t feel the need to ‘address’ all you see on here as sometimes you’ll be tight and other times you’ll be wrong. It’ll eat you up.
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:21 am
eddiep wrote:
Im all for telking the truth about my club but you have missed out the melt down your fans had and that massive 12 man march. To get rid of the yanks.
Some times your "truth' snacks of desperate one upmanship.
In always tryiig to get over the big city team
Class for fans, is calling a spade a spade.
In general,, our fans have more class than yours.
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:35 am
JackSensealot wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:JackSensealot wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
It’s all opinions mate and I’m sure all football forums (including PS) have a few myths and untruths as well as a few truths.
Again, it’s what rivalry is all about - if a fan isn’t 100% sure he may well post the pest case scenario for their rivals. Not saying you’re doing it or anyone else in here is, but it’s what happens.
But it’s not an opinion that Valencia were bottom of La Liga, it’s just incorrect information. It’s not an opinion that companies went bust due to the CVA nearly 20 years ago, it’s a fact that none did. It’s not an opinion that the Americans are taking money from the club, they aren’t.
Opinions are one thing, mis truths are another and that’s what I am addressing. I’m sure everyone can see through such nonsense disguised as ‘opinion’ like “we will smash you 10-0” without me having to point it out. I’m just clarifying the facts.
I actually disagree with one of the above and I have it on good authority that I’m right. You should be able to guess which one that is.
Don’t feel the need to ‘address’ all you see on here as sometimes you’ll be tight and other times you’ll be wrong. It’ll eat you up.
None of them can be disagreed with, they are all factual statements. “Good authority” is irrelevant, the accounts are there for all to read, the La Liga table is there for all to read and the CVA document is there for all to read.
Ricky Gervais once famously said, “You can have your own opinions... but you can’t have your own facts”.
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:52 am
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Sorry, you’re wrong. Good authority is a source within your club who spends a bit of time at your training ground in Upper Killay. Why would he lie?
He’s constantly getting (or trying to get) one up on me re ccfc & scfc. He’s mentioned two things in particular to me that completely contradict one of your ‘facts’ and one in particular is particularly alarming (for swans fans).
I’m not 100% that he’s right but i am 100% correct that he’s told me the info that he has.
We will find out by Christmas.
Dont ask for proof as there isn’t any.
Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:00 am
JackSensealot wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Sorry, you’re wrong. Good authority is a source within your club who spends a bit of time at your training ground in Upper Killay. Why would he lie?
He’s constantly getting (or trying to get) one up on me re ccfc & scfc. He’s mentioned two things in particular to me that completely contradict one of your ‘facts’ and one in particular is particularly alarming (for swans fans).
I’m not 100% that he’s right but i am 100% correct that he’s told me the info that he has.
We will find out by Christmas.
Dont ask for proof as there isn’t any.
For a start our training ground isn’t in Upper Killay, or even in Killay for that matter.![]()
Why he lied isn’t a question I am particularly bothered about. The why is irrelevant. There is also nothing to find out, you haven’t said anything.
Again, we are talking about documented fact. The fact you now say you aren’t 100% sure he is right says it all.
Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:03 am
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:JackSensealot wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Sorry, you’re wrong. Good authority is a source within your club who spends a bit of time at your training ground in Upper Killay. Why would he lie?
He’s constantly getting (or trying to get) one up on me re ccfc & scfc. He’s mentioned two things in particular to me that completely contradict one of your ‘facts’ and one in particular is particularly alarming (for swans fans).
I’m not 100% that he’s right but i am 100% correct that he’s told me the info that he has.
We will find out by Christmas.
Dont ask for proof as there isn’t any.
For a start our training ground isn’t in Upper Killay, or even in Killay for that matter.![]()
Why he lied isn’t a question I am particularly bothered about. The why is irrelevant. There is also nothing to find out, you haven’t said anything.
Again, we are talking about documented fact. The fact you now say you aren’t 100% sure he is right says it all.
There is a SCFC development area / training area, whatever you want to call it in Upper Killay and that is a fact.
The guy I’ve spoken to has been there in many occasions as I’ve dropped him off there in the past.
Say what you like, he says differently to you but below what you like.
Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:10 am
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:JackSensealot wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Sorry, you’re wrong. Good authority is a source within your club who spends a bit of time at your training ground in Upper Killay. Why would he lie?
He’s constantly getting (or trying to get) one up on me re ccfc & scfc. He’s mentioned two things in particular to me that completely contradict one of your ‘facts’ and one in particular is particularly alarming (for swans fans).
I’m not 100% that he’s right but i am 100% correct that he’s told me the info that he has.
We will find out by Christmas.
Dont ask for proof as there isn’t any.
For a start our training ground isn’t in Upper Killay, or even in Killay for that matter.![]()
Why he lied isn’t a question I am particularly bothered about. The why is irrelevant. There is also nothing to find out, you haven’t said anything.
Again, we are talking about documented fact. The fact you now say you aren’t 100% sure he is right says it all.
There is a SCFC development area / training area, whatever you want to call it in Upper Killay and that is a fact.
The guy I’ve spoken to has been there in many occasions as I’ve dropped him off there in the past.
Say what you like, he says differently to you but below what you like.
Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:19 am
JackSensealot wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:JackSensealot wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Sorry, you’re wrong. Good authority is a source within your club who spends a bit of time at your training ground in Upper Killay. Why would he lie?
He’s constantly getting (or trying to get) one up on me re ccfc & scfc. He’s mentioned two things in particular to me that completely contradict one of your ‘facts’ and one in particular is particularly alarming (for swans fans).
I’m not 100% that he’s right but i am 100% correct that he’s told me the info that he has.
We will find out by Christmas.
Dont ask for proof as there isn’t any.
For a start our training ground isn’t in Upper Killay, or even in Killay for that matter.![]()
Why he lied isn’t a question I am particularly bothered about. The why is irrelevant. There is also nothing to find out, you haven’t said anything.
Again, we are talking about documented fact. The fact you now say you aren’t 100% sure he is right says it all.
There is a SCFC development area / training area, whatever you want to call it in Upper Killay and that is a fact.
The guy I’ve spoken to has been there in many occasions as I’ve dropped him off there in the past.
Say what you like, he says differently to you but below what you like.
So not our training ground then? That’s quite a difference![]()
So you are telling me that a bloke that has been to an affiliate local development centre for kids knows the inner workings of the club and that documented fact that is widely known, is fraudulent?
This sounds silly and I’m sure you are well aware of that now. There is no “believe what you want”, a fact is not something you can believe or disbelieve, a fact is a fact.
Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:24 am
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:JackSensealot wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:JackSensealot wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Sorry, you’re wrong. Good authority is a source within your club who spends a bit of time at your training ground in Upper Killay. Why would he lie?
He’s constantly getting (or trying to get) one up on me re ccfc & scfc. He’s mentioned two things in particular to me that completely contradict one of your ‘facts’ and one in particular is particularly alarming (for swans fans).
I’m not 100% that he’s right but i am 100% correct that he’s told me the info that he has.
We will find out by Christmas.
Dont ask for proof as there isn’t any.
For a start our training ground isn’t in Upper Killay, or even in Killay for that matter.![]()
Why he lied isn’t a question I am particularly bothered about. The why is irrelevant. There is also nothing to find out, you haven’t said anything.
Again, we are talking about documented fact. The fact you now say you aren’t 100% sure he is right says it all.
There is a SCFC development area / training area, whatever you want to call it in Upper Killay and that is a fact.
The guy I’ve spoken to has been there in many occasions as I’ve dropped him off there in the past.
Say what you like, he says differently to you but below what you like.
So not our training ground then? That’s quite a difference![]()
So you are telling me that a bloke that has been to an affiliate local development centre for kids knows the inner workings of the club and that documented fact that is widely known, is fraudulent?
This sounds silly and I’m sure you are well aware of that now. There is no “believe what you want”, a fact is not something you can believe or disbelieve, a fact is a fact.
You’re putting words down that I haven’t stated.
I’ve said that he’s spent time there and I’ve dropped him off there. It’s not impossible that someone who’s been there (in any capacity) knows a few things about the club.
If anyone is sounding ‘silly’ it’s you pal.
Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:25 am
Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:38 am
JackSensealot wrote:What do you mean by “it’s not impossible that he knows a bit about the club because he has been to a facility for kids”? Are you reading what you are saying?
This can’t be about Valencia not being bottom, or no companies going bust 20 years ago. So what you are suggesting is that a bloke who has been to a facility for kids a few times knows the inner workings of the clubs finances, and in particular the finances that are directed by a company in Delaware, United States that releases them once a year to the point a 21% shareholder can’t get any information until that time.
So considering that is what you are suggesting, and also knowing now the capacity of this ‘source’ of yours, I would say yes it is absolutely impossible.
Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:40 am
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:JackSensealot wrote:What do you mean by “it’s not impossible that he knows a bit about the club because he has been to a facility for kids”? Are you reading what you are saying?
This can’t be about Valencia not being bottom, or no companies going bust 20 years ago. So what you are suggesting is that a bloke who has been to a facility for kids a few times knows the inner workings of the clubs finances, and in particular the finances that are directed by a company in Delaware, United States that releases them once a year to the point a 21% shareholder can’t get any information until that time.
So considering that is what you are suggesting, and also knowing now the capacity of this ‘source’ of yours, I would say yes it is absolutely impossible.
He works directly for scfc.
He has been to that place in Killay for whatever reason.
He’s not just a ‘nobody’ but admittedly not what they say is ‘itk’
He would love to tell me that all is rosey as that’s what he does but on this occasion he told me that he was hacked off by two things he’s heard.
One in particular would be a particularly worrying thing for scfc if true.
I honestly don’t know if true - but he’s told me.
...for what it’s worth in the past he has also driven to the handbag pincher’s house to speak to him about something. I was in the car on this occasion also. This kind of suggests that he doesn’t just deal with ‘unaffiliated’ kids stuff.
I’d love to tell you Dyers address and car type / reg but that would not be sensible. Suffice to say that it’s not a million miles from the ‘training ground ‘ discussed, albeit driving away from Upper Killay.
Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:42 am
Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:44 am
JackSensealot wrote:So this phantom friend who can’t seem to drive, who also “isn’t ITK”.... seems to know more than pretty much every single person within the club and essentially more than anyone connected with Swansea City on the planet... although he’s just relaying “what he’s heard”....
This is sounding more far fetched by the post