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Re: Who does John Toshack think he is

Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:55 am

My View:

Personally Gareth Bale should of learnt Spanish and integrated.

The least Bale should of done was that.

In the UK we expect foreigners to do that.

Re: Who does John Toshack think he is

Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:17 pm

Who does John Toshack think he is ?
Cardiff City[13]
Welsh Cup (2) 1967–68, 1968–69
Liverpool[17]
Football League First Division (3): 1972–73, 1975–76, 1976–77
FA Cup (1): 1973–74
FA Charity Shield (1): 1976
UEFA Cup (2): 1972–73, 1975–76
UEFA Super Cup (1): 1977
Player-manager[edit]
Swansea City[94]
Football League Fourth Division Third-place promotion: 1977–78
Football League Third Division Third-place promotion: 1978–79
Football League Second Division Third-place promotion: 1980–81
Welsh Cup (3): 1980–81, 1981–82, 1982–83
Manager[edit]
Real Sociedad[42]
Copa del Rey (1): 1986–87
Real Madrid[42]
La Liga (1): 1989–90
Deportivo[95]
Supercopa de España (1): 1995
Beşiktaş[2]
Turkish Cup (1): 1997–98
Khazar Lankaran[2]
Azerbaijan Supercup (1): 2013
Wydad Athletic Club[2]
Botola (1): 2014–15
Individual honours[edit]
La Liga Coach of the Year – Don Balón Award (2): 1989, 1990[96]

Re: Who does John Toshack think he is

Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:34 pm

Forever Blue wrote:My View:

Personally Gareth Bale should of learnt Spanish and integrated.

The least Bale should of done was that.

In the UK we expect foreigners to do that.

How do you all still believe that rumour? Seriously? Even his Spanish teacher has commented about his Spanish

Re: Who does John Toshack think he is

Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:49 pm

Bluebird1990 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:My View:

Personally Gareth Bale should of learnt Spanish and integrated.

The least Bale should of done was that.

In the UK we expect foreigners to do that.

How do you all still believe that rumour? Seriously? Even his Spanish teacher has commented about his Spanish



Because its in the Spanish papers / Spanish football fans continually talk about how Bale never integrated.
Only this lunch time they were talking about how he never.

It might not be all true, but its been talked about for years.

Re: Who does John Toshack think he is

Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:56 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebird1990 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:My View:

Personally Gareth Bale should of learnt Spanish and integrated.

The least Bale should of done was that.

In the UK we expect foreigners to do that.

How do you all still believe that rumour? Seriously? Even his Spanish teacher has commented about his Spanish



Because its in the Spanish papers / Spanish football fans continually talk about how Bale never integrated.
Only this lunch time they were talking about how he never.

He has a spanish teacher and even Alvaro said he can speak spanish.
Ok he might not have integrated but he can speak Spanish

Re: Who does John Toshack think he is

Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:01 pm

Bluebird1990 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebird1990 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:My View:

Personally Gareth Bale should of learnt Spanish and integrated.

The least Bale should of done was that.

In the UK we expect foreigners to do that.

How do you all still believe that rumour? Seriously? Even his Spanish teacher has commented about his Spanish



Because its in the Spanish papers / Spanish football fans continually talk about how Bale never integrated.
Only this lunch time they were talking about how he never.

He has a spanish teacher and even Alvaro said he can speak spanish.
Ok he might not have integrated but he can speak Spanish


We can all speak some Spanish when you live here as every day you pick up different words.

But if you don't intergrate then you won't really belong and you won't speak no where near like them.

Re: Who does John Toshack think he is

Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:10 pm

[quote="rumpo kid"]Who does Cardiff 74 think he is.. he goes around criticising John Toshack... bla di bla etc etc[/i know exactly who I am mate can toshack speak Welsh probably not I can’t either and most welsh people can’t so are we a disgrace to wales like he makes out bale is to spain

Re: Who does John Toshack think he is

Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:18 pm

[quote="Moonstomper"]Who does John Toshack think he is ?
Cardiff City[13]
Welsh Cup (2) 1967–68, 1968–69
Liverpool[17]
Football League First Division (3): 1972–73, 1975–76, 1976–77
FA Cup (1): 1973–74
FA Charity Shield (1): 1976
UEFA Cup (2): 1972–73, 1975–76
UEFA Super Cup (1): 1977
Player-manager[edit]
Swansea City[94]
Football League Fourth Division Third-place promotion: 1977–78
Football League Third Division Third-place promotion: 1978–79
Football League Second Division Third-place promotion: 1980–81
Welsh Cup (3): 1980–81, 1981–82, 1982–83
Manager[edit]
Real Sociedad[42]
Copa del Rey (1): 1986–87
Real Madrid[42]
La Liga (1): 1989–90
Deportivo[95]
Supercopa de España (1): 1995
Beşiktaş[2]
Turkish Cup (1): 1997–98
Khazar Lankaran[2]
Azerbaijan Supercup (1): 2013
Wydad Athletic Club[2]
Botola (1): 2014–15
Individual honours[edit]
La Liga Coach of the Year – Don Balón Award (2): 1989, 1990[96][/looks impressive but take away his playing days archeivmeants he didn’t win that much as a manger abroad and didn’t stay very long at most of those clubs didn’t anything with saint etienne or wales you forgot to mention that do you really think he’s one of the best in Europe

Re: Who does John Toshack think he is

Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:22 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
cardiff 74 wrote:What right does John Toshack have to criticise Gareth bale just because he hasn’t learned the language come out and made statements against the club and manger he also says he has insulted the Spanish people get a life Toshack this isn’t Gareth bale fault he given everything to Real Madrid and loves the place .as regards Toshack you are a washed up coach who trekked around Europe from one club to another set up teams to play boring football like certain coaches in England .he doesn’t know the full facts just looking for publicity for himself he should be defending him not slagging him off hes our player comes from Cardiff and plays his heart out for Wales toshack also forgets he once came from Cardiff .real Madrid and Zindane have treated Gareth bale terribly And showed him no respect


What a joke.
Toshacks forgotten more than you’ll ever know about football. He’s been there, done it here and in Spain. He learnt the language and knows how it all works so I’d say he’s more than entitled to give his opinion.

Let me tell you toshack thought he reinvented football but he didn’t managers like shankly and revie clough paisley where well ahead of there time and jock stein long before toshack

Re: Who does John Toshack think he is

Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:26 pm

cardiff 74 wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
cardiff 74 wrote:What right does John Toshack have to criticise Gareth bale just because he hasn’t learned the language come out and made statements against the club and manger he also says he has insulted the Spanish people get a life Toshack this isn’t Gareth bale fault he given everything to Real Madrid and loves the place .as regards Toshack you are a washed up coach who trekked around Europe from one club to another set up teams to play boring football like certain coaches in England .he doesn’t know the full facts just looking for publicity for himself he should be defending him not slagging him off hes our player comes from Cardiff and plays his heart out for Wales toshack also forgets he once came from Cardiff .real Madrid and Zindane have treated Gareth bale terribly And showed him no respect


What a joke.
Toshacks forgotten more than you’ll ever know about football. He’s been there, done it here and in Spain. He learnt the language and knows how it all works so I’d say he’s more than entitled to give his opinion.

Let me tell you toshack thought he reinvented football but he didn’t managers like shankly and revie clough paisley where well ahead of there time and jock stein long before toshack



f**k sake :banghead:

Re: Who does John Toshack think he is

Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:57 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
cardiff 74 wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
cardiff 74 wrote:What right does John Toshack have to criticise Gareth bale just because he hasn’t learned the language come out and made statements against the club and manger he also says he has insulted the Spanish people get a life Toshack this isn’t Gareth bale fault he given everything to Real Madrid and loves the place .as regards Toshack you are a washed up coach who trekked around Europe from one club to another set up teams to play boring football like certain coaches in England .he doesn’t know the full facts just looking for publicity for himself he should be defending him not slagging him off hes our player comes from Cardiff and plays his heart out for Wales toshack also forgets he once came from Cardiff .real Madrid and Zindane have treated Gareth bale terribly And showed him no respect


What a joke.
Toshacks forgotten more than you’ll ever know about football. He’s been there, done it here and in Spain. He learnt the language and knows how it all works so I’d say he’s more than entitled to give his opinion.

Let me tell you toshack thought he reinvented football but he didn’t managers like shankly and revie clough paisley where well ahead of there time and jock stein long before toshack



f**k sake :banghead:


Thick as as shit.

Re: Who does John Toshack think he is

Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:56 pm

Forever Blue wrote:My View:

Personally Gareth Bale should of learnt Spanish and integrated.

The least Bale should of done was that.

In the UK we expect foreigners to do that.


Newsflash! Not all british born footballers are intelligent enough to speak English, let alone a foreign language :laughing5: just putting it out there, that intelligence is not usually the first thing you think of from all players,some really are as thick as sh@t,and would struggle at attempting to learn a strange language, that's not in any way meant as detrimental, just facts,a lot of people struggle to learn new things (outside school years) don't get me wrong,no doubt there are many footballers that are really intelligent, but not all :thumbup: to use it as a stick to beat a player that has achieved massive success at madrid, is a little harsh. :roll: :old: :bluebird:

Re: Who does John Toshack think he is

Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:06 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebird1990 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebird1990 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:My View:

Personally Gareth Bale should of learnt Spanish and integrated.

The least Bale should of done was that.

In the UK we expect foreigners to do that.

How do you all still believe that rumour? Seriously? Even his Spanish teacher has commented about his Spanish



Because its in the Spanish papers / Spanish football fans continually talk about how Bale never integrated.
Only this lunch time they were talking about how he never.

He has a spanish teacher and even Alvaro said he can speak spanish.
Ok he might not have integrated but he can speak Spanish


We can all speak some Spanish when you live here as every day you pick up different words.

But if you don't intergrate then you won't really belong and you won't speak no where near like them.


But surely it's different Annis, he's not likely to live there after he finishes with them, so therefore would have little use for Spanish, with yourself I agree 100% :thumbup: you have decided to forge a new life there,so for yourself and others that choose a new country to live in,its almost imperative to learn as much as you can,to as you say, integrate into yoor new community ,and country.my Aunt who turns 70 has been living in Belize for four years,but has struggled (prob due to age,but she's really bright :oops: ) with learning Spanish (creole) other than enough to scrape by,but she says the above"I'm not going to live here forever :thumbup: :old: :bluebird:

Re: Who does John Toshack think he is

Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:45 am

Only one thing I have to say here, why should Bale have to stop eating at say 6pm and not go to bed early it has worked for him as a professional footballer. why should he eat his main meal at 10pm just because his teammates do. It is not healthy to eat so late in the night and I would certainly not eat at that time, it puts a strain on the heart and body by doing so. And as for not speaking Spanish it is a complete myth, just used by the Spanish media to have a go at Bale.

Re: Who does John Toshack think he is

Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:52 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQNElrcoMqs