Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:06 pm
paulh_85 wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:3m is nothing and this lad has probably got 3/4 seasons in him yet.Good enough to sell this time next year should we make the prem and the manager does not deem him good enough.Also,in your opinion whats available out there for the money anyway?Nelson was good business.Whats his transfer value now that we've got him under contract?A couple of mil at least I would have thought and that for a guy thats yet to prove himself at championship level.
I couldn't possibly comment on Nelson. If I've ever seen him play I can't remember it.
For me, our squad is weaker than it was a week ago, yes the window is stil open so we can't judge till it closes. But I think our net spend this summer is now around -2m?
The problem isn't flint himself, though as someone els pointed out, it leaves us lacking pace a bit more and less mobile at the back. The problem for me is the business. There's no reason to believe manga wouldn't give his all for a final season before moving back to France in the summer and personally, like gunnersson, I'd have preferred that over what's currently happened.
Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:58 am
Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:29 am
2blue2handle wrote:As much as I would like Zohore and Manga to stay I think the risk would be not selling them now and them both leaving on a free next season.
Manga value wise isn't to much of a risk, his value isn't going to go up much more, 31 now, he would be 32 when out of contract. For a little more we will have Flint on a longer contract.
Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:05 pm
Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:24 pm
Bluebina wrote:2blue2handle wrote:As much as I would like Zohore and Manga to stay I think the risk would be not selling them now and them both leaving on a free next season.
Manga value wise isn't to much of a risk, his value isn't going to go up much more, 31 now, he would be 32 when out of contract. For a little more we will have Flint on a longer contract.
This is the main point of the sale regardless of how important Manga was for us and Zohore had the odd good day too, we will get £11Million t refresh the squad while these two were in the last ear of their contracts!!!
They leave for free and take less risks due to injury worries in their final seasons while running the clock down, it just has to be done!
Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:07 am
2blue2handle wrote:Bluebina wrote:2blue2handle wrote:As much as I would like Zohore and Manga to stay I think the risk would be not selling them now and them both leaving on a free next season.
Manga value wise isn't to much of a risk, his value isn't going to go up much more, 31 now, he would be 32 when out of contract. For a little more we will have Flint on a longer contract.
This is the main point of the sale regardless of how important Manga was for us and Zohore had the odd good day too, we will get £11Million t refresh the squad while these two were in the last ear of their contracts!!!
They leave for free and take less risks due to injury worries in their final seasons while running the clock down, it just has to be done!
Shame to see Manga go but we can cope and trust Warnock to sort the defence.
Strikers we really need Warnock to up his game. Got this feeling we will buy a load of small strikers or think he can play Reid uptop on his own then end up with Patterson.
Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:46 am
phildavies wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Bluebina wrote:2blue2handle wrote:As much as I would like Zohore and Manga to stay I think the risk would be not selling them now and them both leaving on a free next season.
Manga value wise isn't to much of a risk, his value isn't going to go up much more, 31 now, he would be 32 when out of contract. For a little more we will have Flint on a longer contract.
This is the main point of the sale regardless of how important Manga was for us and Zohore had the odd good day too, we will get £11Million t refresh the squad while these two were in the last ear of their contracts!!!
They leave for free and take less risks due to injury worries in their final seasons while running the clock down, it just has to be done!
Shame to see Manga go but we can cope and trust Warnock to sort the defence.
Strikers we really need Warnock to up his game. Got this feeling we will buy a load of small strikers or think he can play Reid uptop on his own then end up with Patterson.
Reid and Patterson will work well together up top in the championship. We need another CM and a RB before we should even be thinking of getting another striker in.
Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:54 am
2blue2handle wrote:phildavies wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Bluebina wrote:2blue2handle wrote:As much as I would like Zohore and Manga to stay I think the risk would be not selling them now and them both leaving on a free next season.
Manga value wise isn't to much of a risk, his value isn't going to go up much more, 31 now, he would be 32 when out of contract. For a little more we will have Flint on a longer contract.
This is the main point of the sale regardless of how important Manga was for us and Zohore had the odd good day too, we will get £11Million t refresh the squad while these two were in the last ear of their contracts!!!
They leave for free and take less risks due to injury worries in their final seasons while running the clock down, it just has to be done!
Shame to see Manga go but we can cope and trust Warnock to sort the defence.
Strikers we really need Warnock to up his game. Got this feeling we will buy a load of small strikers or think he can play Reid uptop on his own then end up with Patterson.
Reid and Patterson will work well together up top in the championship. We need another CM and a RB before we should even be thinking of getting another striker in.
Totally disagree. Reid wants someone he can play off, play balls into and feet and use it well. Patterson is nothing more than a battering ram upfront. I think he will struggle even more upfront in the championship with teams looking yo sit back against us. If Patterson plays more than the odd game upfront I have no doubt we will struggle but I'm sure it won't come to that.
Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:18 am
Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:41 am
2blue2handle wrote:phildavies wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Bluebina wrote:2blue2handle wrote:As much as I would like Zohore and Manga to stay I think the risk would be not selling them now and them both leaving on a free next season.
Manga value wise isn't to much of a risk, his value isn't going to go up much more, 31 now, he would be 32 when out of contract. For a little more we will have Flint on a longer contract.
This is the main point of the sale regardless of how important Manga was for us and Zohore had the odd good day too, we will get £11Million t refresh the squad while these two were in the last ear of their contracts!!!
They leave for free and take less risks due to injury worries in their final seasons while running the clock down, it just has to be done!
Shame to see Manga go but we can cope and trust Warnock to sort the defence.
Strikers we really need Warnock to up his game. Got this feeling we will buy a load of small strikers or think he can play Reid uptop on his own then end up with Patterson.
Reid and Patterson will work well together up top in the championship. We need another CM and a RB before we should even be thinking of getting another striker in.
Totally disagree. Reid wants someone he can play off, play balls into and feet and use it well. Patterson is nothing more than a battering ram upfront. I think he will struggle even more upfront in the championship with teams looking yo sit back against us. If Patterson plays more than the odd game upfront I have no doubt we will struggle but I'm sure it won't come to that.