Just the one body in the plane?

Well, what they've said is that they can SEE one body , but they're only looking at video in dark conditions taken by an ROV, so that's not to say that there's not another one in there. If those cushions which they found are actually from the aeroplane then that suggests that the fusillage is fractured somewhere and that body(s) could also have come out.
They're not diving for the body apparently but trying to extracate it with an ROV with hooks and chains, which seems ambitious to be frank for reasons which I won't go into here but which should be obvious. Thus, the removal of the first body won't necessarily reveal the second even if it's there.
Presumably there are practical reasons why they're not using divers, which would be the best chance of finding out what else might be in the wreckage. I'd have thought that the best chance of preserving any remains intact would be to attach oxygen balloons to the aeroplane, inflate them and try to bring it up slowly enough in tidal gaps to keep it in one bit, but again I'm sure there are practical reasons as to why they're doing something else . I do happen to know that the tidal gaps in those waters are very short at certain times of the year, so maybe it's that.

Actually it's surprising that they've found the wreckage and even more surprising that they've been able to see a body, but I doubt whether they'll ever get a complete answer from it. I hope they'll get enough of the body out to do a Dna identification, but that'd still leave the fate of whichever the other one was hanging. In some ways the discovery of the plane makes the suffering of at least one family worse, but at least it should enable the air accident inquiry to reach some conclusions.

I’d have to agree with regards to recovering the body with an ROV. I have worked with ROV’s for 6 years and can not see how you would be able to do so. Where did you see that they would be recovering the body with an ROV?
The only feasible way would be ‘IF’ the said body was harnessed into a seat, and then fitting strops into certain areas of seat. But without seeing accessibility the area it’s all guess work. The people working on it are professionals in work of this nature, so I’m pretty sure they will now what needs to be done.

As for you mentioning oxygen bags to lift it. That would definitely be the easiest/safest way to do so, which would need divers. As it’s at 65m it would need to be sat divers therefore needing a specialist dive support vessel, and depending on who’s paying would not be cheap. But I’d imagine the government/AAIB would foot that bill.

All that said for everyone involved let’s hope both bodies are recovered and the plane so there is closure for both families, and also a chance of finding out what happened.

If by ‘sat’ divers, you mean saturation divers then no you are wrong.
Divers would need to be technically trained of, course, but would use mixed gases or more likely rebreathers.
Lift bags (not oxygen) would be the easiest route by far, however, not without problems due to winter and conditions of course.

The cut off commercially for air divers even with mixed air (Heliox) is 50m, the plane is at a depth of 65m therefore I said sat divers would be needed. Unless the salvage sector is different to the oil and gas sector, which I highly doubt as it’s still commercial.
Agreed with the weather conditions, but can’t see any alternative to lift it otherwise.

Again, you’re wrong mate.
A MOD3 Tech CCR diver is trained to 100m depth on Trimix.
I, myself, have dived to a depth of 60m and am a professional diver (not commercial).
I’m not suggesting this method was used as I don’t know but I’m just making a point.

I like that you keep saying I’m wrong when I stating IMCA rules, but as I am saying commercially the cut off is 50m. I’m not making this up, I fully aware people can dive deeper with mixed gases. People have dived deeper than 65m without any aide. I work in the offshore industry and the cut off for air divers is 50m. Sat divers will be used for anything below that depth.

But by all accounts the ROV has recovered the body, so there was no divers required.

I’m aware of the cut off for air but my point again is that at this depth there would have been a case for tech divers using a Trimix as opposed to sat divers.
Anyway, I’ll say no more and let’s be ‘glad’ that the body or bodies have been recovered safely so far.

You're right, in theory mixed gas divers could get down there and do a recovery. However, Bluebird_in_Jackland is correct, as this is an operation being run by the AAIB any diving would have to be commercial using HSE ACOPS. This would mean that avocational trimix divers are not able to be used, therefore it would require sat divers.

You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!

yes but thats one body not two which the thread is about.

Where is this video

For f**k sake there hardly going to post it online are they

He said you can see the body in the video, so I've asked where the video is you dull c**t

They could see a body in the video when they dove down to look at the wreckage.

They are hardly going to share that with the world are they.

Bit of common sense would tell you there’s no where you can view it.

You miss the point (yet again)

Quote (BlueMoon1974): "You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane"

Lockey1927 asked where this video was to be viewed and it turns out there isn't one (that shows any body)

What's hard to understand about that and why have a 'pop' at him?

The so-called "bit of common sense" you refer to would indicate the person you need to be having a 'pop' at is BlueMoon1974, who once again made something up for his own weird ends!

Pipe down there’s nothing wrong with my comment I haven’t missed the point common sense tells you there’s not going to be a video going around the internet of the body’s in the back of a plane and I was hardly having a pop at anybody.

Caught a few of those embarrassing face emojis in that Sand Martin thread they other day didn’t you fella. Promoting there great offer.

You clearly have (yet again) missed the point; BlueMoon1974 stated that there was a video showing a body when there clearly wasn't!

If only you had an inkling at what was really going on with the Sand Martin offer; but it's tough to educate the ignorant and the presumptuous, as the responses in that thread (and now from you) proved!

How have I missed the point that’s clearly what I was saying?

Enlighten us then Sven how was me going to the sand Martin and buying a meal and getting a free pint doing anything for the memory of Emiliano Sala and not making a few notes in extra passing trade for the pub?

the point you missed is a poster says....you can clearly see a body.

the next poster says .{ i presume in disbelief as there was no body in anything anyone else had seen }.where is this video.

seems to me you had a go at someone with the same thoughts as yourself and not the idiot that claims he saw a body where no one else did..?

I wasn’t having ago at anybody. I was just commenting on the whole thing.

You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!

what video can you see the body in i havent been able to see any body in anyvideo, have you a link please ?

ladies and gents just chill out. pointless arguing over this

You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!

what video can you see the body in i havent been able to see any body in anyvideo, have you a link please ?

Reza, don't know if you're on a wind-up here but..........

There is no video showing a human body in the plane that is in the public domain at this time.

You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!

yes but thats one body not two which the thread is about.

Where is this video

For f**k sake there hardly going to post it online are they

He said you can see the body in the video, so I've asked where the video is you dull c**t

They could see a body in the video when they dove down to look at the wreckage.

They are hardly going to share that with the world are they.

Bit of common sense would tell you there’s no where you can view it.

You miss the point (yet again)

Quote (BlueMoon1974): "You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane"

Lockey1927 asked where this video was to be viewed and it turns out there isn't one (that shows any body)

What's hard to understand about that and why have a 'pop' at him?

The so-called "bit of common sense" you refer to would indicate the person you need to be having a 'pop' at is BlueMoon1974, who once again made something up for his own weird ends!

Pipe down there’s nothing wrong with my comment I haven’t missed the point common sense tells you there’s not going to be a video going around the internet of the body’s in the back of a plane and I was hardly having a pop at anybody.

Caught a few of those embarrassing face emojis in that Sand Martin thread they other day didn’t you fella. Promoting there great offer.

You clearly have (yet again) missed the point; BlueMoon1974 stated that there was a video showing a body when there clearly wasn't!

If only you had an inkling at what was really going on with the Sand Martin offer; but it's tough to educate the ignorant and the presumptuous, as the responses in that thread (and now from you) proved!

How have I missed the point that’s clearly what I was saying?

Enlighten us then Sven how was me going to the sand Martin and buying a meal and getting a free pint doing anything for the memory of Emiliano Sala and not making a few notes in extra passing trade for the pub?

You certainly have missed the point. Although i thought the sandmartin offer was very strange. But your calling this guy out for asking where the video is. He already knew there wasnt and was callung the other guy on it but in a subtle way. So whilst i agree with you about the sandmartin it would seem youve cocked this one up im afraid fella

Fucks sake guys leave it out

You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!

what video can you see the body in i havent been able to see any body in anyvideo, have you a link please ?

Reza, don't know if you're on a wind-up here but..........

There is no video showing a human body in the plane that is in the public domain at this time.

Im not in the trolling or twisted evil business. (I'm shaking my head as I type)

There is a video and bbc and sky broadcasted it. Even the David Mearns said it shows a person in reckage. Its not blatantly obviously but you can see a person. Im not going to post links and I wouldn't do something like this to stir it up. Very sad affair and I for just want to get over this dark time.

I took comfort out of the bbc footage that it could only mean one thing and that it would have to be sala in back of the plane and not the pilot and it would be closure for me. I just hope now the pilot is found.

Not my words. Can't believe how people can be so twisted to think people could make this shit up. Very nasty!!

RIP SALA AND DAVE

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You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!

yes but thats one body not two which the thread is about.

Where is this video

For f**k sake there hardly going to post it online are they

He said you can see the body in the video, so I've asked where the video is you dull c**t

They could see a body in the video when they dove down to look at the wreckage.

They are hardly going to share that with the world are they.

Bit of common sense would tell you there’s no where you can view it.

You miss the point (yet again)

Quote (BlueMoon1974): "You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane"

Lockey1927 asked where this video was to be viewed and it turns out there isn't one (that shows any body)

What's hard to understand about that and why have a 'pop' at him?

The so-called "bit of common sense" you refer to would indicate the person you need to be having a 'pop' at is BlueMoon1974, who once again made something up for his own weird ends!

Pipe down there’s nothing wrong with my comment I haven’t missed the point common sense tells you there’s not going to be a video going around the internet of the body’s in the back of a plane and I was hardly having a pop at anybody.

Caught a few of those embarrassing face emojis in that Sand Martin thread they other day didn’t you fella. Promoting there great offer.

You clearly have (yet again) missed the point; BlueMoon1974 stated that there was a video showing a body when there clearly wasn't!

If only you had an inkling at what was really going on with the Sand Martin offer; but it's tough to educate the ignorant and the presumptuous, as the responses in that thread (and now from you) proved!

How have I missed the point that’s clearly what I was saying?

Enlighten us then Sven how was me going to the sand Martin and buying a meal and getting a free pint doing anything for the memory of Emiliano Sala and not making a few notes in extra passing trade for the pub?

Let's get something straight, right here and now...and that is that you (and several others) had little or no idea what was intended with the offer from the Sand Martin. If you did, you might have taken a different view on it

But no, one guy dived in to say it was pure profiteering and the rest jumped on the bus; some having a 'pop' at me for no other reason than they could (I can live with that, as it's all about opinions and I don't share the negativity of many on here) and one or two realising that I might just have my reasons

It wasn't an attempt to profit; it was a genuine offer put out in good faith for any City fans who went down to the stadium and then chose (not forced) to go into the Sand Martin afterwards

The thread itself was 'locked' (not by me) as a direct result of the negativity that ensued because some people had quickly misinterpreted the genuine intentions of the Sand Martin; the manager of which is a long-standing City fan known to many on here as both a landlord and a friend

I doubt many would have gone to the Sand Martin purely off the back of the offer; but if they were in the vicinity and looking for food then it was a genuine offer made with good intent

Of course, if you know different, you can enlighten us with your greater knowledge on what occurred

And all of this is now irrelevant and pointless.............

The end for many but the start of long journey for all families affected by this tragedy.

RIP SALA AND DAVE

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