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Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:31 am

So that's Chelsea and Liverpool we've slated in public now. Any more bridges we wana burn?

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:45 am

nubbsy wrote:So that's Chelsea and Liverpool we've slated in public now. Any more bridges we wana burn?



Will other clubs be reluctant to do buisness with us because we could be perceived as difficult to deal with? NW is certainly not helping the situation by publically slating clubs..

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:57 am

Warnock, stop blaming everybody under the sun for our clubs inability to negotiate a transfer deal. You keep saying Mehmet Dolman is doing a great job negotiating for players yet every possible deal we hear of falls through. Sounds like very poor management at ccfc.

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:07 am

Warnock was told by Liverpool and Clyne that he was going to Cardiff. As a result Warnock didn't go for two other right backs and a striker who were available on loan. Liverpool didn't handle it right by not telling Warnock, they have every right to change their mind but it lacks class. Yes perhaps he should stay quiet but who wouldn't be pissed off and we all know how passionate Warnock is which is why we are lucky to have him and be were we are.

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:56 am

Makes me laugh that people are blaming warnock. Like he says its difficult in january. If you went for a job interview on friday and told you can start monday so you quit your old job , would you not be pissed if you turned up monday and they said oh sorry the position is now filled?

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:23 am

stuey1981 wrote:Makes me laugh that people are blaming warnock. Like he says its difficult in january. If you went for a job interview on friday and told you can start monday so you quit your old job , would you not be pissed if you turned up monday and they said oh sorry the position is now filled?


Agreed its poor from Liverpool.

But if that job was in a profession I really wanted to work in and they are one of the biggest I'd probably ask them to keep my cv on record and hope to work with them or for them in the future rather than go to the media and have a moan

What's the the saying, cut your nose off to spite your face.

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:52 pm

If anyone is to blame it's Howe at Bournemouth he new that clyne was promised to city yet he made an offer when he could just said ok won't interfere., once he approached clyne there was only one outcome pool could said no but then what clyne could still refuse to come here! What's confusing is NW saying missed our on 2 defenders and a striker waiting for clyne? Sorry 2 defenders and a striker was the priority not one man? Now suspect we will get championship standard players to make up the squad. :roll:

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:35 pm

pembroke allan wrote:If anyone is to blame it's Howe at Bournemouth he new that clyne was promised to city yet he made an offer when he could just said ok won't interfere., once he approached clyne there was only one outcome pool could said no but then what clyne could still refuse to come here! What's confusing is NW saying missed our on 2 defenders and a striker waiting for clyne? Sorry 2 defenders and a striker was the priority not one man? Now suspect we will get championship standard players to make up the squad. :roll:

Please stop saying 'Pool' its cringeworthy.....do you mean Blackpool?. JUST STOP IT.

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:43 pm

pembroke allan wrote:If anyone is to blame it's Howe at Bournemouth he new that clyne was promised to city yet he made an offer when he could just said ok won't interfere., once he approached clyne there was only one outcome pool could said no but then what clyne could still refuse to come here! What's confusing is NW saying missed our on 2 defenders and a striker waiting for clyne? Sorry 2 defenders and a striker was the priority not one man? Now suspect we will get championship standard players to make up the squad. :roll:


Can't really blame Howe, I'm sure Warnock would do the same in a second.

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:45 pm

Neil Warnock launches scathing attack on Liverpool – but all is not as it seems
Posted by Matt Addison January 6, 2019

Neil Warnock launches scathing attack on Liverpool – but all is not as it seems


Neil Warnock accused Liverpool of showing a ‘lack of class’ after Nathaniel Clyne moved to Bournemouth on loan ahead of Cardiff City earlier this week.

Despite the clear attraction of playing for a team that plays good football, has been flying high in the Premier League this season, and has no senior right-back in the squad to play ahead of Clyne, Warnock made the claim after seeing his side go out of the FA Cup to League One Gillingham.

It’s almost like Warnock was coming up with a distraction to his team’s poor result, rather than genuinely believing Clyne would have gone to South Wales ahead of Eddie Howe’s side.


If Clyne had gone to Cardiff, he might have ended up playing up front, like Scottish right-back Callum Paterson does for Warnock’s side at the moment.


Via The Guardian, Warnock said: “It’s a disgrace. I was disappointed with Clyne, having known the player and given him his debut (in 2008, at Crystal Palace).

“I’m not just disappointed with the boy himself, but with Liverpool as well for not ringing me, not telling me.

“To see it on television when I’ve done everything right and they have promised that he is my player this week, it’s a disgrace and a lack of class.”



The 70-year-old has never been one to calmly discuss contentions, so for him to accuse another club of lacking class and being disrespectful is more than a little ironic.

His comments are more than likely simply a distraction from another poor performance.
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Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:58 pm

C'mon you have to be kidding? How can you blame anyone to do with Bourmouth? That's why they're a small club and established in the prem!! They know how to work the transfer market!

It's our lack of ambition which mean we can't compete against the likes of Bourmouth etc.

Let's be honest with ourselfs we haven't even matched Stoke, WBA, Villa etc. With our spending (transfer & Wages) never mind teams in our league.

It's in black and white we're punching well above our weight and the management,squad & fans have done us proud to be in this position. Crucial signings our now vital as you can guarantee all the teams around us will strengthen.
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Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:00 pm

Warnock says that Clyne and Liverpool had agreed on the deal. So why hadn't the club signed him?

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:03 pm

At the end of the day we went out of the fa cup. Would have been nice to go a bit longer but wasn't to be. I think in the long run it will b a good omen. I would certainly rather stay in prem than get 2 or 3 more rounds of cup and get knocked out and b relegated. Fa cup is known for shock's and we shouldn't dwell on it too much. It will all b rosy when we beat Huddersfield Saturday.

Also this club is setting up for the future by signing best championship players and keeping our other players on long term contracts. I think the view of the club and Tan and Warnock is that we can expect to go down...make a bit of money on the way and have a great squad and manager and wage budget that isn't astronomical to come back up again more prepared in next couple of years. If we manage to stay up it will be a massive bonus. This is y we need to enjoy it...support our great team and manager...and you never know...we might be here next season

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:08 pm

Nickoblue23 wrote:C'mon you have to be kidding? How can you blame anyone to do with Bourmouth? That's why they're a small club and established in the prem!! They know how to work the transfer market!

It's our lack of ambition which mean we can't compete against the likes of Bourmouth etc.

Let's be honest with ourselfs we haven't even matched Stoke, WBA, Villa etc. With our spending (transfer & Wages) never mind teams in our league.

It's in black and white we're punching well above our weight and the management,squad & fans have done us proud to be in this position. Crucial signings our now vital as you can guarantee all the teams around us will strengthen.


I think you miss the point; promises were made and both Liverpool and Clyne reneged on those! :(

That, to me, is a 'gentlemen's agreement' and whist they have limited standing in Law, it is still hugely disappointing and says a lot about a persons (or in this case club's) character; and I'm. sure other on this forum will understand that from their own experiences ;)

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:15 pm

No such thing in football, how many transfers have fallen through on the last second!! Warnock is experienced enough to know that until the ink is dry on the contract nothing is done!

Like people have said before, however disappointing, this was a deflection tactic away from his 1st team getting turned over by Gillingham!

My frustration is it again is highlighting the lack of ambition from the board to stay in the league.

Bourmouth have played a blinder and have beat both us and Palace in one combined transfer!

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:20 pm

Bananas wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:If anyone is to blame it's Howe at Bournemouth he new that clyne was promised to city yet he made an offer when he could just said ok won't interfere., once he approached clyne there was only one outcome pool could said no but then what clyne could still refuse to come here! What's confusing is NW saying missed our on 2 defenders and a striker waiting for clyne? Sorry 2 defenders and a striker was the priority not one man? Now suspect we will get championship standard players to make up the squad. :roll:

Please stop saying 'Pool' its cringeworthy.....do you mean Blackpool?. JUST STOP IT.



No I won't and if you don't know I mean Liverpool you need to read thread! Anyway since when did you appointed yourself the forums literature police? :dontknow: :headbang: :munky2: :laughing3:

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:20 pm

Lets be brutally honest about this Warnock made two really good signings early on in Bamba and Hoilett but has been pretty dire on transfers since then. We got promoted and are not in a relegation place despite his poor signings not because of them. I don't trust either the board or Warnock to either be able to make any good signings or even to actually get them over the line anyway. Bournrmouth wanted Clyne and Solanke (ok they have probably well overpaid for Solanke) and got them both we have wanted to get a few in and have got nothing. No two ways about it we are hopeless when it comes to the transfer market and will be probably relegated as a result.

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:27 pm

Nickoblue23 wrote:No such thing in football, how many transfers have fallen through on the last second!! Warnock is experienced enough to know that until the ink is dry on the contract nothing is done!

Like people have said before, however disappointing this was a deflection tactic away from his 1st team getting turned over by Gillingham!

My frustration is it again is highlighting the lack of ambition from the board to stay in the league.


Sorry, but clearly you have missed the point again :roll:

I alluded to the fact that in football nothing is cut and dried (sometimes even after the ink is dry) but Neil Warnock clearly feels that promises were made and let his feelings be known

A deflection tactic? :? Possibly the timing was right and is only what other managers do (Mourinho is the master at it) but that doesn't take away the disappointment of expecting a player and apparently missing out on other potential targets

As for your 'frustration', how do you know that the club have a (quote) "lack of ambition to stay in the league"? :?

The blunt answer is that you don't and (to be frank) it simply doesn't make sense for them not to do so!

Be patient and try being positive because I'll tell you one thing from experience...this Forum would not be in its current 'Negative Mode' had City sneaked a 1-0 win (or maybe even a draw) at Priestfield yesterday!

You (and others) need to get up to speed with regard to the incredible amount of work Ken Choo and Mehmet Dalman in particular are carrying out on the transfer front right now; not to mention the miles travelled

Easy to 'mock' in ignorance from your armchair, isn't it? ;) :thumbright:

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:46 pm

Just an opinion and reading what has been said by Warnock etc.

We've missed out on 2 defender's and a striker etc. For the Clyne deal!! That doesn't make for good reading.

When did I question effort?

If I'm honest couldn't really care about the FA Cup we've got bigger fish to fry.

It's a forum so it's about opinions positive and negative. I'm just giving an opion on our current transfer dealings based on last Jan, summer gone and now (which isn't over yet).

To date I feel it's been desperate at best. Camarasa
Was a last second panic when we missed out on other targets. So was Madine and look how that's turned out.

For me the board knew we had two massive games in Jan. These deals should have been tied up in Dec ready for the 1st of Jan! Other clubs around us are just far better in this area than us.

Just an opinion don't have to agree with it.

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:59 pm

Direct quote from Warnock following yesterdays game:

"It's getting strikers in January. You look at some of the players we're looking at and the figures are astronomical," he said.

"It's a difficult one, we haven't got the answer yet.

"Time will tell over the next three or four weeks."

Does that sound like a club that is ambitious, has targeted the players it wants and will do what it takes to get them over the line!!

Not for me!! Would love nothing more than to be proved wrong however!!

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:13 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Bananas wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:If anyone is to blame it's Howe at Bournemouth he new that clyne was promised to city yet he made an offer when he could just said ok won't interfere., once he approached clyne there was only one outcome pool could said no but then what clyne could still refuse to come here! What's confusing is NW saying missed our on 2 defenders and a striker waiting for clyne? Sorry 2 defenders and a striker was the priority not one man? Now suspect we will get championship standard players to make up the squad. :roll:

Please stop saying 'Pool' its cringeworthy.....do you mean Blackpool?. JUST STOP IT.



No I won't and if you don't know I mean Liverpool you need to read thread! Anyway since when did you appointed yourself the forums literature police? :dontknow: :headbang: :munky2: :laughing3:

Bloody part time plastics. :banghead:

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:41 pm

Sven wrote:
Nickoblue23 wrote:No such thing in football, how many transfers have fallen through on the last second!! Warnock is experienced enough to know that until the ink is dry on the contract nothing is done!

Like people have said before, however disappointing this was a deflection tactic away from his 1st team getting turned over by Gillingham!

My frustration is it again is highlighting the lack of ambition from the board to stay in the league.


Sorry, but clearly you have missed the point again :roll:

I alluded to the fact that in football nothing is cut and dried (sometimes even after the ink is dry) but Neil Warnock clearly feels that promises were made and let his feelings be known

A deflection tactic? :? Possibly the timing was right and is only what other managers do (Mourinho is the master at it) but that doesn't take away the disappointment of expecting a player and apparently missing out on other potential targets

As for your 'frustration', how do you know that the club have a (quote) "lack of ambition to stay in the league"? :?

The blunt answer is that you don't and (to be frank) it simply doesn't make sense for them not to do so!

Be patient and try being positive because I'll tell you one thing from experience...this Forum would not be in its current 'Negative Mode' had City sneaked a 1-0 win (or maybe even a draw) at Priestfield yesterday!

You (and others) need to get up to speed with regard to the incredible amount of work Ken Choo and Mehmet Dalman in particular are carrying out on the transfer front right now; not to mention the miles travelled

Easy to 'mock' in ignorance from your armchair, isn't it? ;) :thumbright:


I think it was a defecation tactic Chris

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:44 pm

People debating this are the ones who Warnock got wrapped around their finger, he doesn't actually mean anything he said about this Clyne situation it's all to deflect the game and result yesterday.

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:03 pm

City Slicker wrote:
Sven wrote:
Nickoblue23 wrote:No such thing in football, how many transfers have fallen through on the last second!! Warnock is experienced enough to know that until the ink is dry on the contract nothing is done!

Like people have said before, however disappointing this was a deflection tactic away from his 1st team getting turned over by Gillingham!

My frustration is it again is highlighting the lack of ambition from the board to stay in the league.


Sorry, but clearly you have missed the point again :roll:

I alluded to the fact that in football nothing is cut and dried (sometimes even after the ink is dry) but Neil Warnock clearly feels that promises were made and let his feelings be known

A deflection tactic? :? Possibly the timing was right and is only what other managers do (Mourinho is the master at it) but that doesn't take away the disappointment of expecting a player and apparently missing out on other potential targets

As for your 'frustration', how do you know that the club have a (quote) "lack of ambition to stay in the league"? :?

The blunt answer is that you don't and (to be frank) it simply doesn't make sense for them not to do so!

Be patient and try being positive because I'll tell you one thing from experience...this Forum would not be in its current 'Negative Mode' had City sneaked a 1-0 win (or maybe even a draw) at Priestfield yesterday!

You (and others) need to get up to speed with regard to the incredible amount of work Ken Choo and Mehmet Dalman in particular are carrying out on the transfer front right now; not to mention the miles travelled

Easy to 'mock' in ignorance from your armchair, isn't it? ;) :thumbright:


I think it was a defecation tactic Chris


Phil, it's certainly hit the proverbial fan in this case! :thumbright: :laughing6: :laughing6:

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:21 pm

Choo and Dalman have certainly done a terrific amount of work to bring new signings in but I think people are complaining that we have not actually bought any new signings in not even the bloke from Tadcaster United.

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:37 pm

Sven wrote:
City Slicker wrote:
Sven wrote:
Nickoblue23 wrote:No such thing in football, how many transfers have fallen through on the last second!! Warnock is experienced enough to know that until the ink is dry on the contract nothing is done!

Like people have said before, however disappointing this was a deflection tactic away from his 1st team getting turned over by Gillingham!

My frustration is it again is highlighting the lack of ambition from the board to stay in the league.


Sorry, but clearly you have missed the point again :roll:

I alluded to the fact that in football nothing is cut and dried (sometimes even after the ink is dry) but Neil Warnock clearly feels that promises were made and let his feelings be known

A deflection tactic? :? Possibly the timing was right and is only what other managers do (Mourinho is the master at it) but that doesn't take away the disappointment of expecting a player and apparently missing out on other potential targets

As for your 'frustration', how do you know that the club have a (quote) "lack of ambition to stay in the league"? :?

The blunt answer is that you don't and (to be frank) it simply doesn't make sense for them not to do so!

Be patient and try being positive because I'll tell you one thing from experience...this Forum would not be in its current 'Negative Mode' had City sneaked a 1-0 win (or maybe even a draw) at Priestfield yesterday!

You (and others) need to get up to speed with regard to the incredible amount of work Ken Choo and Mehmet Dalman in particular are carrying out on the transfer front right now; not to mention the miles travelled

Easy to 'mock' in ignorance from your armchair, isn't it? ;) :thumbright:


I think it was a defecation tactic Chris


Phil, it's certainly hit the proverbial fan in this case! :thumbright: :laughing6: :laughing6:


Very good! :lol:

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:38 pm

Crayfish wrote:Choo and Dalman have certainly done a terrific amount of work to bring new signings in but I think people are complaining that we have not actually bought any new signings in not even the bloke from Tadcaster United.


No, a lot are simply having an uniformed 'pop' because they think things are done instantly! :(

Wait until we do sign someone; the usual suspects will be on here with their usual platitudes...

"Not good enough", "We paid too much", "Third choice", "Never seen him but he's crap", etc., etc.

It's just what some on here are... :oops:

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:57 pm

All Warnock was p!ssed off about was the fact he found out about it on the TV and nobody, player or club rang him to say he was heading to Bournemouth and not Cardiff. This is fair enough, I think. Unfortunately this is just a sign of the times and reflects the general lack of courtesy and respect exhibited by many people.

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:42 pm

Crayfish wrote:Lets be brutally honest about this Warnock made two really good signings early on in Bamba and Hoilett but has been pretty dire on transfers since then. We got promoted and are not in a relegation place despite his poor signings not because of them. I don't trust either the board or Warnock to either be able to make any good signings or even to actually get them over the line anyway. Bournrmouth wanted Clyne and Solanke (ok they have probably well overpaid for Solanke) and got them both we have wanted to get a few in and have got nothing. No two ways about it we are hopeless when it comes to the transfer market and will be probably relegated as a result.



Yea camarasa and arter are shit arent they :clap: :clap:

Re: “ Neil Warnock accuses Liverpool “

Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:52 pm

I think what everyone is not realising is that warnock didn't bring this up to deflect from the result but was actually asked about the whole Clyne situation to which he responded. It just made better news for the reporters hence it being talked about so much