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Re: “ Referee tonight “

Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:29 am

nojac wrote:So theoretically being offside could result in a penalty. If a player who is offside runs back and touches the ball in his own penalty area, what an absurd rule.


No, would still be a free kick just in the box.

Re: “ Referee tonight “

Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:47 am

A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:

If an offside offence occurs, the referee awards an indirect free kick where the offence occurred, including if it is in the player’s own half of the field of play.

That is the law of Offside regarding the moment a player becomes in "Active Play". Michael Oliver was 100% correct in awarding the indirect freekick where the offence "In Active Play" occurred.

The question here is why on earth does Josh Murphy decide to stand in the Man Utd half when we are defending a corner and why does he run 30 yards into his own half to become "Active" thereby gifting Man Utd a freekick. Maybe he doesn't understand the offside law or maybe with ALL our players under pressure throughout the game he just made a poor decision because of that pressure.

Whatever the reason Michael Oliver was right and the fact we were completely outclassed by Man Utd had absolutely nothing to do with him or the way he handled that game.


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Re: “ Referee tonight “

Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:17 am

The mancs were very savvy and knew where to give fouls away, every time Cardiff had an opportunity to build from their own half they’d simply foul the player on the ball, foul given deep in Cardiff’s half. We sat off them allowing them to stroll deep into Cardiff’s half then brought them down around the box.

Re: “ Referee tonight “

Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:18 am

Exactly Castleblue and that’s why I pointed it out right at the beginning of the thread.
Silly posters and fans at the match blaming the referee when they themselves are wrong. Embarrassing.
People on here blaming the ref every single game need to get a grip and look at the whole match.
Like you say - we were completely outclassed by Manchester Utd which had nothing to do with Michael Oliver.
Move on and roll on Crystal Palace.

Re: “ Referee tonight “

Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:42 am

nojac wrote:So theoretically being offside could result in a penalty. If a player who is offside runs back and touches the ball in his own penalty area, what an absurd rule.

Erm, no.

Re: “ Referee tonight “

Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:15 am

nojac wrote:So theoretically being offside could result in a penalty. If a player who is offside runs back and touches the ball in his own penalty area, what an absurd rule.


No as he'd have to have the world's sprinting record plus opposing team would make a defending wall

Re: “ Referee tonight “

Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:59 pm

castleblue wrote:A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:

If an offside offence occurs, the referee awards an indirect free kick where the offence occurred, including if it is in the player’s own half of the field of play.

That is the law of Offside regarding the moment a player becomes in "Active Play". Michael Oliver was 100% correct in awarding the indirect freekick where the offence "In Active Play" occurred.

The question here is why on earth does Josh Murphy decide to stand in the Man Utd half when we are defending a corner and why does he run 30 yards into his own half to become "Active" thereby gifting Man Utd a freekick. Maybe he doesn't understand the offside law or maybe with ALL our players under pressure throughout the game he just made a poor decision because of that pressure.

Whatever the reason Michael Oliver was right and the fact we were completely outclassed by Man Utd had absolutely nothing to do with him or the way he handled that game.


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Whilst this was extreme case it happens every game on numorous occasions it's a rule that needs to be changed ..

Re: “ Referee tonight “

Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:28 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
castleblue wrote:A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:

If an offside offence occurs, the referee awards an indirect free kick where the offence occurred, including if it is in the player’s own half of the field of play.

That is the law of Offside regarding the moment a player becomes in "Active Play". Michael Oliver was 100% correct in awarding the indirect freekick where the offence "In Active Play" occurred.

The question here is why on earth does Josh Murphy decide to stand in the Man Utd half when we are defending a corner and why does he run 30 yards into his own half to become "Active" thereby gifting Man Utd a freekick. Maybe he doesn't understand the offside law or maybe with ALL our players under pressure throughout the game he just made a poor decision because of that pressure.

Whatever the reason Michael Oliver was right and the fact we were completely outclassed by Man Utd had absolutely nothing to do with him or the way he handled that game.


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Whilst this was extreme case it happens every game on numorous occasions it's a rule that needs to be changed ..

There’s nothing wrong with the rule. The award is taken from where the offence happened. It just doesn’t happen all that often.

Re: “ Referee tonight “

Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:06 pm

PtB wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
castleblue wrote:A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:

If an offside offence occurs, the referee awards an indirect free kick where the offence occurred, including if it is in the player’s own half of the field of play.

That is the law of Offside regarding the moment a player becomes in "Active Play". Michael Oliver was 100% correct in awarding the indirect freekick where the offence "In Active Play" occurred.

The question here is why on earth does Josh Murphy decide to stand in the Man Utd half when we are defending a corner and why does he run 30 yards into his own half to become "Active" thereby gifting Man Utd a freekick. Maybe he doesn't understand the offside law or maybe with ALL our players under pressure throughout the game he just made a poor decision because of that pressure.

Whatever the reason Michael Oliver was right and the fact we were completely outclassed by Man Utd had absolutely nothing to do with him or the way he handled that game.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:



Whilst this was extreme case it happens every game on numorous occasions it's a rule that needs to be changed ..

There’s nothing wrong with the rule. The award is taken from where the offence happened. It just doesn’t happen all that often.



Yesterday doesn't happen a lot (kick in own half) but the actual times lino flags for coming back from offside position is very frequent especially against us! 99% of fans dont have clue why free kick is given unless ypu see lino waving hand back and forth signalling coming back from offside :roll:

Re: “ Referee tonight “

Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:16 pm

I see your point and agree that it's a stupid rule, but it couldn't be a penalty, as an offside infringement gets an indirect free kick. It would result in an indirect free kick in the area, the same as a backpass to goalie situation. And I thought the egg game has stupid and mind boggling laws. :lol:

Re: “ Referee tonight “

Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:48 am

pembroke allan wrote:
PtB wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
castleblue wrote:A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:

If an offside offence occurs, the referee awards an indirect free kick where the offence occurred, including if it is in the player’s own half of the field of play.

That is the law of Offside regarding the moment a player becomes in "Active Play". Michael Oliver was 100% correct in awarding the indirect freekick where the offence "In Active Play" occurred.

The question here is why on earth does Josh Murphy decide to stand in the Man Utd half when we are defending a corner and why does he run 30 yards into his own half to become "Active" thereby gifting Man Utd a freekick. Maybe he doesn't understand the offside law or maybe with ALL our players under pressure throughout the game he just made a poor decision because of that pressure.

Whatever the reason Michael Oliver was right and the fact we were completely outclassed by Man Utd had absolutely nothing to do with him or the way he handled that game.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:



Whilst this was extreme case it happens every game on numorous occasions it's a rule that needs to be changed ..

There’s nothing wrong with the rule. The award is taken from where the offence happened. It just doesn’t happen all that often.



Yesterday doesn't happen a lot (kick in own half) but the actual times lino flags for coming back from offside position is very frequent especially against us! 99% of fans dont have clue why free kick is given unless ypu see lino waving hand back and forth signalling coming back from offside :roll:


Says more about some of the fans than anything else Allan!