“ VAR in the Premier League? “

To be honest the clubs shouldn’t have a say, they should be told by the FA that this is happening to try and help the refs and stop the moaning of dodgy decisions, pretty sure they told clubs they had no choice with goal line tech in the end

the FA made the decision that its not happening..thank god..it resolves nothing it just moves the debate from was the ref right to were the var officials right..

The decision was made because they felt the referees weren’t ready and needed more training which is ongoing.
It’s almost certainly being used next season.

more training??????????....nooooooooooo.
if these VAR refs can be trained to be better get them on the pitch..

Not sure why all the question marks histrionics. That's the official view not mine.

lol ..not histrionics at all..more training seems to be the answer to everything whether its kens heading or VAR..
these are highly trained to start with, know the rules inside out have done the job for years ,risen through many levels, have all the badges,and make decisions based on the rules and their opinions..now are they telling these people having the extra training to go by a different set of rules or to go against their opinions.?
proper dont get this eyewash tbh....on one hand FIFA saying it was a huge success yet the people applying the rules need more training.?
there are decisions in every game that are impossible to judge..one ref will say foul and another ref no foul no matter how much its slowed down and no matter how many tv angles, its not technology its just blame shifting at the expense of the best game in the world.

Yes but the referees who are being trained weren't at the world cup so hence need training on VAR and how it works. Better they are prepared next year than throw them into this season with little preparation.
I can't see the problem myself. I personally accept it as it's inevitably going to happen.
Will be interesting to say the least!

To be honest the clubs shouldn’t have a say, they should be told by the FA that this is happening to try and help the refs and stop the moaning of dodgy decisions, pretty sure they told clubs they had no choice with goal line tech in the end

the FA made the decision that its not happening..thank god..it resolves nothing it just moves the debate from was the ref right to were the var officials right..

The decision was made because they felt the referees weren’t ready and needed more training which is ongoing.
It’s almost certainly being used next season.

more training??????????....nooooooooooo.
if these VAR refs can be trained to be better get them on the pitch..

Not sure why all the question marks histrionics. That's the official view not mine.

lol ..not histrionics at all..more training seems to be the answer to everything whether its kens heading or VAR..
these are highly trained to start with, know the rules inside out have done the job for years ,risen through many levels, have all the badges,and make decisions based on the rules and their opinions..now are they telling these people having the extra training to go by a different set of rules or to go against their opinions.?
proper dont get this eyewash tbh....on one hand FIFA saying it was a huge success yet the people applying the rules need more training.?
there are decisions in every game that are impossible to judge..one ref will say foul and another ref no foul no matter how much its slowed down and no matter how many tv angles, its not technology its just blame shifting at the expense of the best game in the world.

Correct in world cup handball had two decisions for same situation one ref gave pen other didn't who was right ref or var? And how many times did we see grappling in box and var did sfa when clearly there was a foul committed , (kane) var is not 100% accurate so say fifa so why use it? Var will go against your own team at some point and fans will moan about it just like do now with refs

What was obvious about that tackle? Used shoulder then legs connect only way to see that part was slow motion! Var definition clear and obvious errors if that's an error well may as well do away with officials and ref game from studio. Ref had clear view so is his decision worthless? .

I would say a definite penalty & regardless of that challenge in the first 3 weeks of this season there have been horrendous mistakes which VAR would have cleared up. For example, the Wolves hand ball on scoring the goal that gave them a point against Man City. If Wolves stayed up after finishing 1 point above City would you be happy? In our game with Newcastle clearly Kennedy would have been sent off, less so Arter because he received a yellow card. The ref just missed the Kennedy kick. That is an obvious error. There are many other examples week in week out. There are huge sums of money involved in football and to lose out on some ridiculous decisions is ruining the game. VAR was a huge success at the World Cup and it now seems that the Premier League is going backwards. I do not buy into this rubbish ‘ decisions even themselves out over the season’ - they don’t. 1 wrong decision is 1 too many as it could cost a club 100-150m e.g. the Wolves handball.

Decisions arnt ruining the game. It's been this way since day one.

I certainly wouldn't look at the handball if wolves finished 1pt above us, I'd be looking at games that we failed to get points in. Seems like you're already lining up excuses haha... Imo anyway Wolves will finish well above us.

I’m certainly not making excuses already. I just used the Wolves game as an example of farcical outcomes of many games throughout the season where the wrong result is achieved. “It’s been this way since day one” - Firstly from day1 there wasn’t the huge sums of money that there is now and secondly the technology is now there so why not use it? Football at the moment is a lottery whereby in many games anything up to half a dozen wrong decisions are made which do affect the outcome and the wrong result is achieved. Sports like cricket, tennis, NFL, rugby have made huge strides and the sport as improved as a result. They actually come to the correct outcome. As a previous poster put on here football is still living in the dinasour age. Coming back to the Wolves game those 2 points dropped by Man City could cost them the title at the end of the season! VAR in the World Cup was a huge success & when it’s introduced into the Premier League it will be a far better place for it.

What was obvious about that tackle? Used shoulder then legs connect only way to see that part was slow motion! Var definition clear and obvious errors if that's an error well may as well do away with officials and ref game from studio. Ref had clear view so is his decision worthless? .

I would say a definite penalty & regardless of that challenge in the first 3 weeks of this season there have been horrendous mistakes which VAR would have cleared up. For example, the Wolves hand ball on scoring the goal that gave them a point against Man City. If Wolves stayed up after finishing 1 point above City would you be happy? In our game with Newcastle clearly Kennedy would have been sent off, less so Arter because he received a yellow card. The ref just missed the Kennedy kick. That is an obvious error. There are many other examples week in week out. There are huge sums of money involved in football and to lose out on some ridiculous decisions is ruining the game. VAR was a huge success at the World Cup and it now seems that the Premier League is going backwards. I do not buy into this rubbish ‘ decisions even themselves out over the season’ - they don’t. 1 wrong decision is 1 too many as it could cost a club 100-150m e.g. the Wolves handball.

Decisions arnt ruining the game. It's been this way since day one.

I certainly wouldn't look at the handball if wolves finished 1pt above us, I'd be looking at games that we failed to get points in. Seems like you're already lining up excuses haha... Imo anyway Wolves will finish well above us.

I’m certainly not making excuses already. I just used the Wolves game as an example of farcical outcomes of many games throughout the season where the wrong result is achieved. “It’s been this way since day one” - Firstly from day1 there wasn’t the huge sums of money that there is now and secondly the technology is now there so why not use it? Football at the moment is a lottery whereby in many games anything up to half a dozen wrong decisions are made which do affect the outcome and the wrong result is achieved. Sports like cricket, tennis, NFL, rugby have made huge strides and the sport as improved as a result. They actually come to the correct outcome. As a previous poster put on here football is still living in the dinasour age. Coming back to the Wolves game those 2 points dropped by Man City could cost them the title at the end of the season! VAR in the World Cup was a huge success & when it’s introduced into the Premier League it will be a far better place for it.

wolves was not farcical as no one saw what happened until replay in slow motion and at better angle than ref or lino! A mistake is subjective was mon night a mistake ref who had clear sight close to incident said no pen while pundits said pen, are we relying on slow motion and 26 angles to tell ref he needs to to go to specsavers? As for sports mentioned all have one thing in common game is stopped while decision is made and can take 2mins to resolve, football game doesn't stop so in theory a team could score before var decides ref needs to look at incident seen goals scored 30sec from one end to other! And our club could be relegated by var don't forget that. World cup showed refs are not capable of making their own decisions either that or they were appallingly bad! Only 3 definate errors were corrected by var at world cup all other decisions open
To interpretation

What was obvious about that tackle? Used shoulder then legs connect only way to see that part was slow motion! Var definition clear and obvious errors if that's an error well may as well do away with officials and ref game from studio. Ref had clear view so is his decision worthless? .

I would say a definite penalty & regardless of that challenge in the first 3 weeks of this season there have been horrendous mistakes which VAR would have cleared up. For example, the Wolves hand ball on scoring the goal that gave them a point against Man City. If Wolves stayed up after finishing 1 point above City would you be happy? In our game with Newcastle clearly Kennedy would have been sent off, less so Arter because he received a yellow card. The ref just missed the Kennedy kick. That is an obvious error. There are many other examples week in week out. There are huge sums of money involved in football and to lose out on some ridiculous decisions is ruining the game. VAR was a huge success at the World Cup and it now seems that the Premier League is going backwards. I do not buy into this rubbish ‘ decisions even themselves out over the season’ - they don’t. 1 wrong decision is 1 too many as it could cost a club 100-150m e.g. the Wolves handball.

Decisions arnt ruining the game. It's been this way since day one.

I certainly wouldn't look at the handball if wolves finished 1pt above us, I'd be looking at games that we failed to get points in. Seems like you're already lining up excuses haha... Imo anyway Wolves will finish well above us.

I’m certainly not making excuses already. I just used the Wolves game as an example of farcical outcomes of many games throughout the season where the wrong result is achieved. “It’s been this way since day one” - Firstly from day1 there wasn’t the huge sums of money that there is now and secondly the technology is now there so why not use it? Football at the moment is a lottery whereby in many games anything up to half a dozen wrong decisions are made which do affect the outcome and the wrong result is achieved. Sports like cricket, tennis, NFL, rugby have made huge strides and the sport as improved as a result. They actually come to the correct outcome. As a previous poster put on here football is still living in the dinasour age. Coming back to the Wolves game those 2 points dropped by Man City could cost them the title at the end of the season! VAR in the World Cup was a huge success & when it’s introduced into the Premier League it will be a far better place for it.

wolves was not farcical as no one saw what happened until replay in slow motion and at better angle than ref or lino! A mistake is subjective was mon night a mistake ref who had clear sight close to incident said no pen while pundits said pen, are we relying on slow motion and 26 angles to tell ref he needs to to go to specsavers? As for sports mentioned all have one thing in common game is stopped while decision is made and can take 2mins to resolve, football game doesn't stop so in theory a team could score before var decides ref needs to look at incident seen goals scored 30sec from one end to other! And our club could be relegated by var don't forget that. World cup showed refs are not capable of making their own decisions either that or they were appallingly bad! Only 3 definate errors were corrected by var at world cup all other decisions open
To interpretation

To me, the correct decision is more important than waiting 20 seconds, 40:seconds or even 2 minutes because the outcome is so important. It’s pointless watching football if everyone knows the wrong result has been obtained & that’s why refs are actually asking for more technology to make their job easier. Yes, the Wolves goal wouldn’t have been picked up at the time because it was missed by the ref & linesman although if they knew it was being used the linesman may have brought it to the refs attention if he thought it was handball. With regards to the World Cup I believe that there were far more errors than 3 picked up. People need to move with time because of the money involved and not be stuck in the past.

VAR was made out by footballs supporters across the country worse than what it actually was, people was trying to challenge it and just point out all the negatives when the World Cup showed it as it's best and what a difference it makes.

My only issue is with it it still comes down to the ref to make the call at the end of it so if something looks like a penalty and the ref doesn't think it is and reviews it he can still stick to that call even if people watching think it's a penalty.

What was obvious about that tackle? Used shoulder then legs connect only way to see that part was slow motion! Var definition clear and obvious errors if that's an error well may as well do away with officials and ref game from studio. Ref had clear view so is his decision worthless? .

I would say a definite penalty & regardless of that challenge in the first 3 weeks of this season there have been horrendous mistakes which VAR would have cleared up. For example, the Wolves hand ball on scoring the goal that gave them a point against Man City. If Wolves stayed up after finishing 1 point above City would you be happy? In our game with Newcastle clearly Kennedy would have been sent off, less so Arter because he received a yellow card. The ref just missed the Kennedy kick. That is an obvious error. There are many other examples week in week out. There are huge sums of money involved in football and to lose out on some ridiculous decisions is ruining the game. VAR was a huge success at the World Cup and it now seems that the Premier League is going backwards. I do not buy into this rubbish ‘ decisions even themselves out over the season’ - they don’t. 1 wrong decision is 1 too many as it could cost a club 100-150m e.g. the Wolves handball.

Decisions arnt ruining the game. It's been this way since day one.

I certainly wouldn't look at the handball if wolves finished 1pt above us, I'd be looking at games that we failed to get points in. Seems like you're already lining up excuses haha... Imo anyway Wolves will finish well above us.

I’m certainly not making excuses already. I just used the Wolves game as an example of farcical outcomes of many games throughout the season where the wrong result is achieved. “It’s been this way since day one” - Firstly from day1 there wasn’t the huge sums of money that there is now and secondly the technology is now there so why not use it? Football at the moment is a lottery whereby in many games anything up to half a dozen wrong decisions are made which do affect the outcome and the wrong result is achieved. Sports like cricket, tennis, NFL, rugby have made huge strides and the sport as improved as a result. They actually come to the correct outcome. As a previous poster put on here football is still living in the dinasour age. Coming back to the Wolves game those 2 points dropped by Man City could cost them the title at the end of the season! VAR in the World Cup was a huge success & when it’s introduced into the Premier League it will be a far better place for it.

wolves was not farcical as no one saw what happened until replay in slow motion and at better angle than ref or lino! A mistake is subjective was mon night a mistake ref who had clear sight close to incident said no pen while pundits said pen, are we relying on slow motion and 26 angles to tell ref he needs to to go to specsavers? As for sports mentioned all have one thing in common game is stopped while decision is made and can take 2mins to resolve, football game doesn't stop so in theory a team could score before var decides ref needs to look at incident seen goals scored 30sec from one end to other! And our club could be relegated by var don't forget that. World cup showed refs are not capable of making their own decisions either that or they were appallingly bad! Only 3 definate errors were corrected by var at world cup all other decisions open
To interpretation

To me, the correct decision is more important than waiting 20 seconds, 40:seconds or even 2 minutes because the outcome is so important. It’s pointless watching football if everyone knows the wrong result has been obtained & that’s why refs are actually asking for more technology to make their job easier. Yes, the Wolves goal wouldn’t have been picked up at the time because it was missed by the ref & linesman although if they knew it was being used the linesman may have brought it to the refs attention if he thought it was handball. With regards to the World Cup I believe that there were far more errors than 3 picked up. People need to move with time because of the money involved and not be stuck in the past.

Can argue rights and wrongs about var but answer this mon night ref standing 10yds away clear view doesn't give pen but then review it on var and gives it! What does that say about the ref? And what happens if goalie catches ball from corner kicks upfield team scored yes can happen man c did so other game but then ref is asked to review incident during corner then decides its a pen ? Cue 5 mins of protest and no doubt yellow cards ect. People are not stuck in dark ages we just don't want the game as we know destroyed by var. Other leagues don't want it after having it what does that tell you?