Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:46 pm
BlueGog wrote:This...
Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism,characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries.Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.
Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:25 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:BlueGog wrote:This...
Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism,characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries.Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.
I'm a member of the Labour Party but I am deeply concerned about the level of anti-Semitism at the top of the party including Jeremy Corbyn.
From your definition above it would seem he qualifies as a Fascist because he is taking action against Margaret Hodge for speaking out against him.
However, my main point is Fascism exists in many different forms and is not always found in the obvious places.
Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:44 pm
Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:51 pm
Jock wrote:Israel defends its borders and there’s wailing and gnashing of teeth from the fascist left.
Saudi slaughters thousands in Yemen.....silence.
Trump visits and tens of thousands of middle class clowns take to the streets
Erdogan visits......nothing.
Seems those who say they’re on the Left are very selective about who they protest.
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:01 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:Jock wrote:Israel defends its borders and there’s wailing and gnashing of teeth from the fascist left.
Saudi slaughters thousands in Yemen.....silence.
Trump visits and tens of thousands of middle class clowns take to the streets
Erdogan visits......nothing.
Seems those who say they’re on the Left are very selective about who they protest.
thickies following the media and what's online Jock.
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:06 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:Jock wrote:Israel defends its borders and there’s wailing and gnashing of teeth from the fascist left.
Saudi slaughters thousands in Yemen.....silence.
Trump visits and tens of thousands of middle class clowns take to the streets
Erdogan visits......nothing.
Seems those who say they’re on the Left are very selective about who they protest.
thickies following the media and what's online Jock.
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:07 pm
AHERNE wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:Jock wrote:Israel defends its borders and there’s wailing and gnashing of teeth from the fascist left.
Saudi slaughters thousands in Yemen.....silence.
Trump visits and tens of thousands of middle class clowns take to the streets
Erdogan visits......nothing.
Seems those who say they’re on the Left are very selective about who they protest.
thickies following the media and what's online Jock.
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Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:08 pm
AHERNE wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:Jock wrote:Israel defends its borders and there’s wailing and gnashing of teeth from the fascist left.
Saudi slaughters thousands in Yemen.....silence.
Trump visits and tens of thousands of middle class clowns take to the streets
Erdogan visits......nothing.
Seems those who say they’re on the Left are very selective about who they protest.
thickies following the media and what's online Jock.
Yeh right e o![]()
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Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:12 pm
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:13 pm
Jock wrote:Israel defends its borders and there’s wailing and gnashing of teeth from the fascist left.
Saudi slaughters thousands in Yemen.....silence.
Trump visits and tens of thousands of middle class clowns take to the streets
Erdogan visits......nothing.
Seems those who say they’re on the Left are very selective about who they protest.
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:16 pm
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:16 pm
AHERNE wrote:AHERNE wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:Jock wrote:Israel defends its borders and there’s wailing and gnashing of teeth from the fascist left.
Saudi slaughters thousands in Yemen.....silence.
Trump visits and tens of thousands of middle class clowns take to the streets
Erdogan visits......nothing.
Seems those who say they’re on the Left are very selective about who they protest.
thickies following the media and what's online Jock.
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Plenty of thickie Jews must be following the media and what`s online too Jock. Take your pick.![]()
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=jews+ ... 40&bih=766
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:19 pm
CityBlue93 wrote:Jock wrote:Israel defends its borders and there’s wailing and gnashing of teeth from the fascist left.
Saudi slaughters thousands in Yemen.....silence.
Trump visits and tens of thousands of middle class clowns take to the streets
Erdogan visits......nothing.
Seems those who say they’re on the Left are very selective about who they protest.
Erdogan visits -
https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/why-turkish ... n-protest/
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 39821.html
also left wing politicians spoke up, 1 example - https://twitter.com/davidlammy/status/9 ... 13?lang=en
Saudis bomb yemen -
https://www.newsflare.com/video/188270/ ... -london-uk
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 44861.html
also left wing politicans spoke up, 1 example - https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status ... 05?lang=en
Plenty more protests and condemnation from left wing for both saudi and erdogan, those examples posted above are just ones i found after about 30 seconds on google
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:29 pm
Jock wrote:CityBlue93 wrote:Jock wrote:Israel defends its borders and there’s wailing and gnashing of teeth from the fascist left.
Saudi slaughters thousands in Yemen.....silence.
Trump visits and tens of thousands of middle class clowns take to the streets
Erdogan visits......nothing.
Seems those who say they’re on the Left are very selective about who they protest.
Erdogan visits -
https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/why-turkish ... n-protest/
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 39821.html
also left wing politicians spoke up, 1 example - https://twitter.com/davidlammy/status/9 ... 13?lang=en
Saudis bomb yemen -
https://www.newsflare.com/video/188270/ ... -london-uk
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 44861.html
also left wing politicans spoke up, 1 example - https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status ... 05?lang=en
Plenty more protests and condemnation from left wing for both saudi and erdogan, those examples posted above are just ones i found after about 30 seconds on google
Sorry I must have missed the blanket coverage these got on our MSM. Did Sadiq Khant speak out against them?
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:30 pm
Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:57 pm
Jock wrote:Israel defends its borders and there’s wailing and gnashing of teeth from the fascist left.
Saudi slaughters thousands in Yemen.....silence.
Trump visits and tens of thousands of middle class clowns take to the streets
Erdogan visits......nothing.
Seems those who say they’re on the Left are very selective about who they protest.
Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:10 pm
paulh_85 wrote:Catchy name
Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:19 pm
Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:33 pm
WelshPatriot wrote:Here's my thoughts on this for what it's worth:
Politics etc has no place at the football.
Cardiff City fans come from all different political persuasions and beliefs.
By making a badge with the bluebird on I can only suggest the poster wants to form a movement of anti fascist Cardiff City supporters.
At a time when we are promoted, playing in blue and finally seeing the fan base reunited after the disastrous re-brand this poster Aherne decides in his wisdom to set up a group of "them" and "us" at the football. Just how idiotic can you be?
What next? Designated seating based on your political view? Right wingers in the Canton left in the Ninian?
How about Roman Catholics in the family stand and Muslim's in the Canton with atheists in between??
Get that bluebird off your badge, my football club has nothing to do with your movement.
Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:14 pm
BlueGog wrote:wez1927 wrote:CityBlue93 wrote:it's funny you can mention "against facism" on here and those of a right wing persuasion will get offended as if its a direct insult to them
nothing was said about certain political parties or ideologies, just simply 'against facism' but you'd swear it was a personal attack by how defensive some become, makes you wonder..
What about the new lefty fascists? Against those too ?
This...
Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism,characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries.Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is usually placed on the [b]far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[/b]
Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:50 pm
AHERNE wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:Here's my thoughts on this for what it's worth:
Politics etc has no place at the football.
Cardiff City fans come from all different political persuasions and beliefs.
By making a badge with the bluebird on I can only suggest the poster wants to form a movement of anti fascist Cardiff City supporters.
At a time when we are promoted, playing in blue and finally seeing the fan base reunited after the disastrous re-brand this poster Aherne decides in his wisdom to set up a group of "them" and "us" at the football. Just how idiotic can you be?
What next? Designated seating based on your political view? Right wingers in the Canton left in the Ninian?
How about Roman Catholics in the family stand and Muslim's in the Canton with atheists in between??
Get that bluebird off your badge, my football club has nothing to do with your movement.
Aherne just posted a picture of the badge to wind people up. Aherne had nothing to do with forming any group or making of the badge. Fact.
Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:35 pm
Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:59 pm
WelshPatriot wrote:AHERNE wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:Here's my thoughts on this for what it's worth:
Politics etc has no place at the football.
Cardiff City fans come from all different political persuasions and beliefs.
By making a badge with the bluebird on I can only suggest the poster wants to form a movement of anti fascist Cardiff City supporters.
At a time when we are promoted, playing in blue and finally seeing the fan base reunited after the disastrous re-brand this poster Aherne decides in his wisdom to set up a group of "them" and "us" at the football. Just how idiotic can you be?
What next? Designated seating based on your political view? Right wingers in the Canton left in the Ninian?
How about Roman Catholics in the family stand and Muslim's in the Canton with atheists in between??
Get that bluebird off your badge, my football club has nothing to do with your movement.
Aherne just posted a picture of the badge to wind people up. Aherne had nothing to do with forming any group or making of the badge. Fact.
Crap wind up by aherne. Fact.
Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:00 am
Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:29 am
a handful of predominantly ex pats protesting is in no way similar to the tens of thousands of fannies who rammed the streets to protest Trump.CityBlue93 wrote:Jock wrote:Israel defends its borders and there’s wailing and gnashing of teeth from the fascist left.
Saudi slaughters thousands in Yemen.....silence.
Trump visits and tens of thousands of middle class clowns take to the streets
Erdogan visits......nothing.
Seems those who say they’re on the Left are very selective about who they protest.
Erdogan visits -
https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/why-turkish ... n-protest/
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 39821.html
also left wing politicians spoke up, 1 example - https://twitter.com/davidlammy/status/9 ... 13?lang=en
Saudis bomb yemen -
https://www.newsflare.com/video/188270/ ... -london-uk
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 44861.html
also left wing politicans spoke up, 1 example - https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status ... 05?lang=en
Plenty more protests and condemnation from left wing for both saudi and erdogan, those examples posted above are just ones i found after about 30 seconds on google
Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:03 pm
Jock wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:thickies following the media and what's online Jock.
Social media has much to answer for.
Jock wrote:Sorry I must have missed the blanket coverage these got on our MSM
Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:23 pm
Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:40 pm
CityBlue93 wrote:oh we're still bickering are we? ok.Jock wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:thickies following the media and what's online Jock.
Social media has much to answer for.Jock wrote:Sorry I must have missed the blanket coverage these got on our MSM
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you literally used the excuse "it wasn't in the media" for a reason as to why you formed an incorrect opinion, straight after complaining about other people following the media. thickie.
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:23 pm
CityBlue93 wrote:Jock wrote:Israel defends its borders and there’s wailing and gnashing of teeth from the fascist left.
Saudi slaughters thousands in Yemen.....silence.
Trump visits and tens of thousands of middle class clowns take to the streets
Erdogan visits......nothing.
Seems those who say they’re on the Left are very selective about who they protest.
Erdogan visits -
https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/why-turkish ... n-protest/
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 39821.html
also left wing politicians spoke up, 1 example - https://twitter.com/davidlammy/status/9 ... 13?lang=en
Saudis bomb yemen -
https://www.newsflare.com/video/188270/ ... -london-uk
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 44861.html
also left wing politicans spoke up, 1 example - https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status ... 05?lang=en
Plenty more protests and condemnation from left wing for both saudi and erdogan, those examples posted above are just ones i found after about 30 seconds on google
Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:07 pm
Fergy1927 wrote:I'd hazard a guess that everyone on here is against fascists. Left wing and right Wing fascists. They're all c@nts from Hitler to Stalin.