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What Would You Consider To Be a Reasonable Transfer Spend for City in This Transfer Window?

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Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Wed May 30, 2018 1:16 pm

Reasonable figure as the question asks I think is 40-50 million.

We need quality as simple as that. A good solid premier league quality player in contract with another club will cost around 10 million easily. More for a striker.

We need 3/4 quality players supplemented with some free transfers.

Not sure Neil will get that sort of money, I would say 30 mill is the absolute minimum we should be spending if we have any ambitions to stay in the league.

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Wed May 30, 2018 4:36 pm

CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:I'd spend 8 - 10mill on Jordon Hugill ( main striker, runs all day )
Spend 5 - 6 mill on Snodgrass ( RM to put pressure on NML )

Free agents
Massadio Haidara
Left-Back (competition for Bennett )

Gareth Barry
Defensive Midfield

James Morrison
Central Midfield

Wayne Hennessey
Keeper

Robert Huth
Centre-Back

Get Hoiletts contract sorted and I'd be happy with these additions to the squad.
Thoughts... ? :ayatollah:
,...............

Glad you are not managing the City :lol: :thumbup:

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Wed May 30, 2018 5:03 pm

I think it’s more to do with wages than the actual cost of players that will be a stumbling block.
If you buy a top striker for 12-15mil he’s not coming here for 20 grand a week.

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Wed May 30, 2018 6:28 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:I think it’s more to do with wages than the actual cost of players that will be a stumbling block.
If you buy a top striker for 12-15mil he’s not coming here for 20 grand a week.




all part of the budget along with signing on fees agents fees etc etc..
i think people get carried away with transfer fees , which lets be honest we hardly ever get to find out anyway.

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Wed May 30, 2018 6:44 pm

Interesting but very surprised that a third of fans who have voted believe that we can survive in the Premier League with a transfer budget of 16-25million.

I think based on our current squad and what we need that would not secure our Premier League status.

Neil Warnock has stated that he is looking for about 6 players. A decent striker like Rondon alone would cost 12-15million which wouldn’t leave a lot for the rest! With that figure you would have to pick up at least 3 loans/freebies and gamble on at least two of the other players. Minimum spend last season by the promoted clubs in the summer transfer window was 33/34m whilst Huddersfield spent just over 43million.

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Wed May 30, 2018 6:46 pm

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Interesting but very surprised that a third of fans who have voted believe that we can survive in the Premier League with a transfer budget of 16-25million.

I think based on our current squad and what we need that would not secure our Premier League status.

Neil Warnock has stated that he is looking for about 6 players. A decent striker like Rondon alone would cost 12-15million which wouldn’t leave a lot for the rest! With that figure you would have to pick up at least 3 loans/freebies and gamble on at least two of the other players. Minimum spend last season by the promoted clubs in the summer transfer window was 33/34m whilst Huddersfield spent just over 43million.


My opinion spending that kind of budget would relegate us as we need a prolific striker or even to just to start.

Warnocks himself says he needs 6 players and they will be real quality in my opinion and including wages/fees/agents that would be at least £30 plus mill.

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Wed May 30, 2018 7:54 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Interesting but very surprised that a third of fans who have voted believe that we can survive in the Premier League with a transfer budget of 16-25million.

I think based on our current squad and what we need that would not secure our Premier League status.

Neil Warnock has stated that he is looking for about 6 players. A decent striker like Rondon alone would cost 12-15million which wouldn’t leave a lot for the rest! With that figure you would have to pick up at least 3 loans/freebies and gamble on at least two of the other players. Minimum spend last season by the promoted clubs in the summer transfer window was 33/34m whilst Huddersfield spent just over 43million.


My opinion spending that kind of budget would relegate us as we need a prolific striker or even to just to start.

Warnocks himself says he needs 6 players and they will be real quality in my opinion and including wages/fees/agents that would be at least £30 plus mill.


Absolutely correct! Common sense tells you we need a minimum of £50m, which, by the way, is PEANUTS in the Premier. Out of the reported £200m + we are supposed to receive for gaining promotion surely just spending a modest 25% of it would represent a sound investment. I think we can be certain Tan has got enough brains to see that so I'm pretty certain that's the type of money that will be spent. I don't think it's the amount of money that represents the problem, it's making sure it's spent intelligently that is the key.

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Wed May 30, 2018 9:03 pm

Agree with the above...must be around £50mill. Tan is astute enough to realise that, and NW would not accepting much less! :thumbup:

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Thu May 31, 2018 8:34 am

Spend as little as poss, follow Burnley’s model. Club has been very sensible in putting out the ‘lowest budget’ rhetoric. Let Warnock work his magic in the transfer market. If Tan does pocket the money who can blame him, the club has been losing money and he's been propping us up. I think we’re up for sale anyway (see Tan’s comments), so a debt free (ish) club with our stadium is now looking like a nice proposition for investment. There’s lots of value about (again look at burnley). Crazy long contracts, big fees, and massive wages = certain doom. Warnock will prepare the squad for the prem, but also to survive relegation. They wont be stupid enough to spend the big bucks, and NW won't let them! Warnock cares about this club (very rare that), he’s turned it all around. Lets trust him.

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Thu May 31, 2018 8:35 am

Spend as little as poss, follow Burnley’s model. Club has been very sensible in putting out the ‘lowest budget’ rhetoric. Let Warnock work his magic in the transfer market. If Tan does pocket the money who can blame him, the club has been losing money and he's been propping us up. I think we’re up for sale anyway (see Tan’s comments), so a debt free (ish) club with our stadium is now looking like a nice proposition for investment. There’s lots of value about (again look at burnley). Crazy long contracts, big fees, and massive wages = certain doom. Warnock will prepare the squad for the prem, but also to survive relegation. They wont be stupid enough to spend the big bucks, and NW won't let them! Warnock cares about this club (very rare that), he’s turned it all around. Lets trust him.

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Thu May 31, 2018 8:42 am

You have to speculate to accumalate (points) 2 strikers will cost and 2 are needed

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Thu May 31, 2018 8:45 am

Forever Blue wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Interesting but very surprised that a third of fans who have voted believe that we can survive in the Premier League with a transfer budget of 16-25million.

I think based on our current squad and what we need that would not secure our Premier League status.

Neil Warnock has stated that he is looking for about 6 players. A decent striker like Rondon alone would cost 12-15million which wouldn’t leave a lot for the rest! With that figure you would have to pick up at least 3 loans/freebies and gamble on at least two of the other players. Minimum spend last season by the promoted clubs in the summer transfer window was 33/34m whilst Huddersfield spent just over 43million.


My opinion spending that kind of budget would relegate us as we need a prolific striker or even to just to start.

Warnocks himself says he needs 6 players and they will be real quality in my opinion and including wages/fees/agents that would be at least £30 plus mill.


I voted for the top end budget £50mill. 2 strikers could be up to 30mil alone

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Thu May 31, 2018 8:50 am

Warnock needs to add quality to stand a chance of survival, so that said 30-50 mill should do it, quality doesn’t come cheap.

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Thu May 31, 2018 8:52 am

Good use of the loan market wpuld mean we wouldn't have to spend that much on transfers and if we went down we are not messing with our financial future too much

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Thu May 31, 2018 8:57 am

#1ScouseBluebird wrote:Spend as little as poss, follow Burnley’s model. Club has been very sensible in putting out the ‘lowest budget’ rhetoric. Let Warnock work his magic in the transfer market. If Tan does pocket the money who can blame him, the club has been losing money and he's been propping us up. I think we’re up for sale anyway (see Tan’s comments), so a debt free (ish) club with our stadium is now looking like a nice proposition for investment. There’s lots of value about (again look at burnley). Crazy long contracts, big fees, and massive wages = certain doom. Warnock will prepare the squad for the prem, but also to survive relegation. They wont be stupid enough to spend the big bucks, and NW won't let them! Warnock cares about this club (very rare that), he’s turned it all around. Lets trust him.


Don’t buy into this ‘Burnley model’. They were promoted to the Premier League in 2013/14 spent 8m in the summer and were duly relegated after the first season. Yes they came back up but not many clubs manage to do that. If there isn’t a reasonable amount of investment then it is likely that we will be relegated at the first hurdle again & then back in the Championship and anything could happen. If the club are picking up 180-200 million why not invest 20%- 25% of that? If you do all the hard work and get to the promised land then surely you don’t want to give that up at the first attempt?

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Thu May 31, 2018 9:04 am

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
#1ScouseBluebird wrote:Spend as little as poss, follow Burnley’s model. Club has been very sensible in putting out the ‘lowest budget’ rhetoric. Let Warnock work his magic in the transfer market. If Tan does pocket the money who can blame him, the club has been losing money and he's been propping us up. I think we’re up for sale anyway (see Tan’s comments), so a debt free (ish) club with our stadium is now looking like a nice proposition for investment. There’s lots of value about (again look at burnley). Crazy long contracts, big fees, and massive wages = certain doom. Warnock will prepare the squad for the prem, but also to survive relegation. They wont be stupid enough to spend the big bucks, and NW won't let them! Warnock cares about this club (very rare that), he’s turned it all around. Lets trust him.


Don’t buy into this ‘Burnley model’. They were promoted to the Premier League in 2013/14 spent 8m in the summer and were duly relegated after the first season. Yes they came back up but not many clubs manage to do that. If there isn’t a reasonable amount of investment then it is likely that we will be relegated at the first hurdle again & then back in the Championship and anything could happen. If the club are picking up 180-200 million why not invest 20%- 25% of that? If you do all the hard work and get to the promised land then surely you don’t want to give that up at the first attempt?
I think its more about not breaking up the team and just added a few quality players and not going mad at spending money they havnt got

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Thu May 31, 2018 9:56 am

Lengee wrote:
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:I'd spend 8 - 10mill on Jordon Hugill ( main striker, runs all day )
Spend 5 - 6 mill on Snodgrass ( RM to put pressure on NML )

Free agents
Massadio Haidara
Left-Back (competition for Bennett )

Gareth Barry
Defensive Midfield

James Morrison
Central Midfield

Wayne Hennessey
Keeper

Robert Huth
Centre-Back

Get Hoiletts contract sorted and I'd be happy with these additions to the squad.
Thoughts... ? :ayatollah:
,...............

Glad you are not managing the City :lol: :thumbup:


:laughing5: Not sure what people expect.
What type of players do you think we should go for?

Bare in mind we have to think of transfer value and wages. :thumbright:

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Thu May 31, 2018 10:11 am

ThomasC wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Interesting but very surprised that a third of fans who have voted believe that we can survive in the Premier League with a transfer budget of 16-25million.

I think based on our current squad and what we need that would not secure our Premier League status.

Neil Warnock has stated that he is looking for about 6 players. A decent striker like Rondon alone would cost 12-15million which wouldn’t leave a lot for the rest! With that figure you would have to pick up at least 3 loans/freebies and gamble on at least two of the other players. Minimum spend last season by the promoted clubs in the summer transfer window was 33/34m whilst Huddersfield spent just over 43million.


My opinion spending that kind of budget would relegate us as we need a prolific striker or even to just to start.

Warnocks himself says he needs 6 players and they will be real quality in my opinion and including wages/fees/agents that would be at least £30 plus mill.


I voted for the top end budget £50mill. 2 strikers could be up to 30mil alone







Thomas, We need top quality strikers and will have to spend big to get them and without them we will struggle.

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Thu May 31, 2018 10:15 am

Forever Blue wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Interesting but very surprised that a third of fans who have voted believe that we can survive in the Premier League with a transfer budget of 16-25million.

I think based on our current squad and what we need that would not secure our Premier League status.

Neil Warnock has stated that he is looking for about 6 players. A decent striker like Rondon alone would cost 12-15million which wouldn’t leave a lot for the rest! With that figure you would have to pick up at least 3 loans/freebies and gamble on at least two of the other players. Minimum spend last season by the promoted clubs in the summer transfer window was 33/34m whilst Huddersfield spent just over 43million.


My opinion spending that kind of budget would relegate us as we need a prolific striker or even to just to start.

Warnocks himself says he needs 6 players and they will be real quality in my opinion and including wages/fees/agents that would be at least £30 plus mill.


I voted for the top end budget £50mill. 2 strikers could be up to 30mil alone







Thomas, We need top quality strikers and will have to spend big to get them and without them we will struggle.


Any blokes you can send over from Spain Annis!? Go sit on the beach and find the next iniesta :laughing5:

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Thu May 31, 2018 11:07 am

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
#1ScouseBluebird wrote:Spend as little as poss, follow Burnley’s model. Club has been very sensible in putting out the ‘lowest budget’ rhetoric. Let Warnock work his magic in the transfer market. If Tan does pocket the money who can blame him, the club has been losing money and he's been propping us up. I think we’re up for sale anyway (see Tan’s comments), so a debt free (ish) club with our stadium is now looking like a nice proposition for investment. There’s lots of value about (again look at burnley). Crazy long contracts, big fees, and massive wages = certain doom. Warnock will prepare the squad for the prem, but also to survive relegation. They wont be stupid enough to spend the big bucks, and NW won't let them! Warnock cares about this club (very rare that), he’s turned it all around. Lets trust him.


Don’t buy into this ‘Burnley model’. They were promoted to the Premier League in 2013/14 spent 8m in the summer and were duly relegated after the first season. Yes they came back up but not many clubs manage to do that. If there isn’t a reasonable amount of investment then it is likely that we will be relegated at the first hurdle again & then back in the Championship and anything could happen. If the club are picking up 180-200 million why not invest 20%- 25% of that? If you do all the hard work and get to the promised land then surely you don’t want to give that up at the first attempt?


I do. Stability, debt free and now in Europe. Burnley find value in the teansfer market and sell on well. Plus, like us an amazing manager/team spirit.

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Thu May 31, 2018 11:12 am

CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:
Lengee wrote:
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:I'd spend 8 - 10mill on Jordon Hugill ( main striker, runs all day )
Spend 5 - 6 mill on Snodgrass ( RM to put pressure on NML )

Free agents
Massadio Haidara
Left-Back (competition for Bennett )

Gareth Barry
Defensive Midfield

James Morrison
Central Midfield

Wayne Hennessey
Keeper

Robert Huth
Centre-Back

Get Hoiletts contract sorted and I'd be happy with these additions to the squad.
Thoughts... ? :ayatollah:
,...............

Glad you are not managing the City :lol: :thumbup:


:laughing5: Not sure what people expect.
What type of players do you think we should go for?

Bare in mind we have to think of transfer value and wages. :thumbright:


Loads of sensible transfer targets there, without breaking up our team spirit (or the bank). Wages and planning for possible relegation essential.

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Thu May 31, 2018 1:04 pm

Too much links to players close to home, need to look abroad.

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:37 pm

Looks like Wolves have already smashed us out of the park if the lower end of fans wishes materialise (Poll sample - less than 25m). They have made two loan signings permanent for 30m & are looking at a striker for 27m.

We don’t know how much City will spend but we are not going to get a lot for anything less than 35m.

Re: " Cardiff City Transfer Funds "

Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:18 pm

I personally think it will be about £50 million (which includes agent and loan fees)
Plus about £10 million in extra wages = total outlay about £60 million more than last year

I think our total income next seasonwill increase by about £95 million more than this season just finished (in the season just finished I understand that we are going to make a loss of about £12 million)

Hopefully if the figures are correct it means after taking into account transfer fees and extra wages we will still make a small profit on the year even if we are relegated

However, is £50 million enough?? Seems a lot but that can be blown on 3/4 average players

Over to you Mr Warnock